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Dabomb87 which are currently disputed at ]. Specifically, he us unlinking full dates and despite a good faith discussion and RFC forming, he is refusing to stop his automated edits pushing his POV. I believe this is "edit warring". —] • ] • ] 02:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC) Dabomb87 (and if you go back further, hundreds) which are currently disputed at ]. Specifically, he us unlinking full dates and despite a good faith discussion and RFC forming, he is refusing to stop his automated edits pushing his POV. I believe this is "edit warring". —] • ] • ] 02:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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    User:24.180.21.121 reported by User:Movingboxes (Result: blocked at 09:12 by User:Shell Kinney)

    24.180.21.121 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Time reported: 2:48 AM

    • Previous version reverted to:


    • Diff of 3RR warning:
    Note: Apparently an old report. Adding post-dated timestamp for benefit of MiszaBot II. 09:12, August 22, 2008 (UTC) — Satori Son


    User:Redking7 reported by User:Kransky (Result: 24 hours)


    • Previous version reverted to:


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    http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Diplomatic_missions_of_Ireland&oldid=249726400

    (listed in reverse chronological order; earlier reverts exist)



    • Diff of 3RR warning:


    Please see Talk:Diplomatic missions of Ireland

    Redking7 argues that because Ireland does not have diplomatic missions with Taiwan, Diplomatic missions of Ireland should either (a) not list a quasi-Irish government office in Taipei which performs de facto governmental services, or (b) list the office with a disclaimer about Irish non-recognition of Taiwanese sovereignty and exclude the Taiwanese flag. I have also said that we name countries according to how they identify themselves (although I said I would not pursue the matter since it was a rule that was not consistently upheld).

    I have repeatedly told Redking7 that we include such unofficial missions in these articles as they essentially perform the same duties as diplomatic missions and take direction from Governmental authorities. Whereas I had first considered that the office perhaps was not directly supported by the Irish Government, another editor then provided a link to the office, and it appeared to have some de facto legitimacy (eg: visa form downloads, the same phone/fax numbers as those listed by the Taiwanese ministry of foreign affairs).

    I repeatedly asked Redking7 to discuss the changes on the category page, including the principle that quasi-diplomatic missions are excluded from these articles. I said I had an open mind on the matter, but any rule applied here should apply to all other articles in the Diplomatic Missions by country category, and not just for Taiwan but for other states with recognition or nomenclature issues. I warned him that if we were to keep these articles consistent to I would need to make several chagnes that could lead to other people expressing countering views. He said to the effect it was none of his business what went into the other articles. In turn I said it would be unreasonable for a new editor to drive a signficant policy change, but not put in the hard yards of making all the substantial edits that would be required - and to defend them when others will inevitably complain.

    This attitude makes it hard for me to believe he is editing in good faith. No doubt he has similarly negative views about me. But I think we both would like some guidance on the matter. Kransky (talk) 00:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

    No action. This is not a 3RR case, but an edit-warring case. Though Redking7 appears stubborn, so does Kransky. (They are the main participants in the edit war). Any block for edit-warring would have to be given to both. I suggest following the steps of WP:Dispute resolution. For instance WP:3O or WP:RFC. Since the question of how to deal with diplomatic missions in quasi-countries is of wider interest than just Taiwan, perhaps you can find a WikiProject to get advice from. EdJohnston (talk) 04:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
    Follow-up: Since Redking7 continued to revert even after the close of the original 3RR case, and in spite of an explicit warning to stop, he's been blocked for 24 hours. EdJohnston (talk) 22:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
    Actually I agree with RedKing that this is not a subtle change; even though on inspection it might seem trivial, there are a whole host of sensitivities attached to whatever decision is made. I have been careful to avoid these articles becoming battlegrounds for people with different agendas concerning the names or sovereignty of certain places (as I have seen on matters relating to Northern Cyprus, Palestine, Taiwan, Kosovo, Macedonia and Abkhazia). Misplaced Pages's self-identification principle provides some procedural cover to the convention of treating states according to how they identify themselves, thus stopping tendentious editors making errant changes or claiming bias when encountering views from opposing editors.
    I must emphasise that the decision does not end with the Diplomatic missions of Ireland article, it will affect all articles featuring countries of which sensitivities exist. Consequently I have moved the debate to Category talk:Lists of diplomatic missions by sending country, and have alerted Misplaced Pages:WikiProject International relations.
    I will keep an open mind on whether non-sovereign states should be included or excluded. My prime goal is to ensure consistency - a non-negotiable Misplaced Pages requirement.

    Kransky (talk) 03:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    201.31.242.162 reported by Smalljim (Result: 24 hours )


    • Previous version reverted to:


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    • 4th revert: (He made minor changes, but it's still a revert)


    • Diff of 3RR warning: .

    He also had a 3RR warning on his older IP address: User_talk:201.52.40.246, under which he reverted several editors during October, for instance: , , , .

    He has a predilection for the version that begins "Although uncommon to be eaten today in the United States…" I'm obviously too involved in this lame edit war to consider blocking him myself. (How did I get sucked into it?)  —SMALLJIM  10:06, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

    Debona.michel reported by User:AlasdairGreen27 (Result: 12h)


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    AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 11:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

    12h. You managed to confuse me by posting a warning that post-dated the reverts. However there was an earlier one too William M. Connolley (talk) 13:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

    Resess reported by Zigger (Result: Protected )



    • Diff of 3RR warning: 2008-11-16T23:52:25 UTC

    Related: AFD, AN, checkuser

    --Zigger «º» 15:18, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

    Diff of 1st revert should be . --Zigger «º» 15:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
    FWIW. the page was protected shortly before I listed this, so it was not the "result". My concern was that the user was then editing related articles with similar history. The account has since been indefinitely blocked due to other abuse. Thanks to all who assisted. --Zigger «º» 01:52, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    User:Pinkman111 reported by User:Ronz (Result: 24 hours )

    Pinkman111 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Time reported: 20:46, 17 November 2008 (UTC)



    User:88.110.202.50‎ reported by SandyGeorgia (Result: 24 hours )

    • Previous version:
    • 1st revert: 15:42, November 17, 2008
    • 2nd revert: 18:28, November 17, 2008
    • 3rd revert: 21:38, November 17, 2008
    • 4th revert: 21:42, November 17, 2008
    • Diff of 3RR warning:

    IP has previous recent warnings about edit warring on other articles, and has made no attempt to discuss on talk in any case. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

    I support the block. The anon's current attitude isn't welcomed on Misplaced Pages. GoodDay (talk) 22:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

    Van Briggle Pottery

    Please could someone have a look at this article. I have made efforts to improve an article, especially removing overblown claims that were unsupported by references. The response has not been welcoming and the discussion pages are now slipping towards abuse (I'm not innocent in this, but I'm only human and I was reacting to what I received). The big issue about the article is the subject is known to be a significant influence on Art Nouveau in the United States - this is accepted and supported by the given citations. But editor/s have tried to extend this to being a significant influence globally. This is incorrect, unsupported by the citatiosn and impossible given the dates when active. I will try again (!) and flagged up the 3RR. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.224.42.88 (talk) 09:29, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    Declined – malformed report. Please use the "Click here to create a new report" link at the top of this page, which gives a template report, and provide complete diffs. Stifle (talk) 16:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    Dear Stifle. I am sorry you are not prepared to asssit simply because as I am unfamilar with a non-user friendly procedure. I was trying to help ensure Misplaced Pages is not damaged; I didn't realise this required a detailed prior knowledge things called "template reports"

    And there you have a small sample of the belligerent behavior that 119.224.42.88 is displaying. He seems to feel discussion and proper Wiki procedure and etiquette are not warranted, as his decision on any topic is final and indisputable. If he senses you are crossing him, he gets mad and insulting. He seems to have reserved it to himself to be the arbiter of what is allowable or not, and his discussion skills seem to end with his one-word reasoning: "no." 72.11.124.226 (talk) 23:22, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    80.4.33.59 reported by JD554 (Result: Already blocked)




    I also attempted to engage the anonymous IP into a discussion on the issue with this notice on his/her talk page: 15:38, 17 November 2008 and this notice on the article's talk page: 15:35, 17 November 2008. --JD554 (talk) 12:32, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    Added a fifth revert. --JD554 (talk) 13:07, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
    Already blocked By MBisanz. Stifle (talk) 16:26, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    User:Elohimgenius reported by User:collounsbury (Result: Malformed/Incomplete)


    • Previous version reverted to:

    In Reverse Chron, 16 Nov. all

    Etc.

    Although not involved in this, I have been an editor of the Moors article. The edit war seems to have been set off by this editors strong POV edits. Discussion seems to have occured, but rather one sidedly on the user pages of the two editors. (collounsbury (talk) 14:32, 18 November 2008 (UTC))

    Declined – malformed report. Please use the "Click here to create a new report" link at the top of this page, which gives a template report, and provide complete diffs. Stifle (talk) 16:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
    From a check of the history, I believe this case might have deserved a block if it were timely filed. (Though the URLs are to versions rather than reverts, you can see the reverts if you append '&diff=prev' to the end of each one). The reverts listed are two days old (Nov. 16). Since that time, other editors have removed the inappropriate POV and original research from the article, so the issue is less pressing. EdJohnston (talk) 20:45, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
    Wonderful. Well I only came up on this today, as for the fucking report form, one reason I detest this bloody process is it geared to internet nerds. Thanks for your bloody help, goddamned Wikiwhankers. (collounsbury (talk) 23:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC))
    There's a few people watching this article now. That should help. It is traditional that admins don't take action on stale reverts, since that means the edit war could be over. You might also get assistance at WP:Fringe theories/Noticeboard if the champions of this unusual point of view continue to try adding it to the article. EdJohnston (talk) 20:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

    User1389 reported by Chaoticfluffy (Result: 8 hours & 24h)


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    Serbia/Kosovo edit warrior took a month off and has now reengaged. Is blind-reverting general article fixes as well as country names. keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 15:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    Blocked – for a period of 8 hours Stifle (talk) 16:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
    Now off his block, the user has re-reverted the article again . keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 16:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
    Sigh. 24h William M. Connolley (talk) 20:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

    84.69.64.206 reported by RolandR (Result: no vio)


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    Not obvious that #1 is a revert. No reverts since your warning. No vio, unless anything further happens William M. Connolley (talk) 20:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    Sachingolhar reported by Touchdown Turnaround (Result: no vio)


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    Only 3R, and none since the warning. No vio. Be a bit more understanding to newbies William M. Connolley (talk) 22:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    Rave92 reported by Nikola Smolenski (Result:Editors warned)


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    Nikola (talk) 22:33, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

    No, thats not a warning, thats you reporting him here William M. Connolley (talk) 23:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
    If you guys continue on like this I'll have to lock the page and eventually block your accounts. C'mon. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 06:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

    71.200.54.6, User:BaldPete, User:II MusLiM HyBRiD II reported by CIreland (Result:IP blocked, editors warned)

    • Previous version reverted to: Irrelevant
    • Diff of 3RR warning: All users show talk page evidence that they are aware of the three-revert-rule.

    CIreland (talk) 00:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

    Blocked IP. I'll warn the other two. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 00:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

    Zbrink89 reported by Caspian blue (Result: 24h and 8h)



    24h for Z. 8h for K William M. Connolley (talk) 19:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

    86.11.175.170 reported by Kevin Forsyth (Result: 24h)


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    This editor appears to be the same person who has performed the same edit in the past, from this and one other ISP: see , , and . Repeated requests for a reliable source have resulted in edit warring accusations and profanity. Their response is always the same, reverting with shouted warnings about "edit waring" while themselves violating 3RR. The edit in question is their attempt to add a term for Grimbarians that is intentionally derogatory. (The term has also been denied by an editor who claims to be from Grimsby.) Each time their edit is removed, it sets them off with these results. Truth be told, I have violated 3RR myself to revert this edit which I consider disruptive, but as far as I can tell only I and editor Keith D seem to be aware of the disruption. Kevin Forsyth (talk) 16:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

    2008-11-20T17:56:27 Keith D (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 86.11.175.170 (Talk) (anon. only, account creation blocked) with an expiry time of 24 hours ‎ (Edit warring: first violation of 3 revert rule) (Unblock). Consider yourself lucky not to get a gentle tap yourself; the claimed vandalism exemption is dubious William M. Connolley (talk) 22:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

    Simon2239 reported by User:User:71.178.193.134 (Result: Protected)


    • Previous version reverted to:


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    This user has become belligerent and refuses to discuss any edits. He appears to be taking ownership of the article and is reverting other good faith edits as well. This article is also up for deletion with overwhelming support for deletion. He has since deleted the 3RR warning.71.178.193.134 (talk) 19:53, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

    • I have already protected the article and we usually allow new users a little slack. Deleting the warning is fine. He knows the score now and will get blocked if there is further edit warring. Spartaz 20:13, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

    Dabomb87 reported by Locke Cole

    Dabomb87 is performing dozens of edits (and if you go back further, hundreds) which are currently disputed at WT:MOSNUM. Specifically, he us unlinking full dates and despite a good faith discussion and RFC forming, he is refusing to stop his automated edits pushing his POV. I believe this is "edit warring". —Locke Cole • t • c 02:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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