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This is an archive of past discussions with User:TenPoundHammer. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

I Said

I Said is an article about a single but doesn't say it charted, just was released and was on a mix cd. Not sure how to check to see if it charted, but sounds like it doesn't pass. DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 18:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

• Time 2 Move is another one. The author seems to have a habit of creating articles without sourcing them. Probably more hiding. DENNIS BROWN (T) (C) 01:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Handedness and mathematical ability

Hi there, thanks for your answers. I think I got the title wrong. Case sensitive? Here is the page I was referring to: Handedness and mathematical ability--lightspeedchick (talk) 00:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Rickrolling

Hey, sorry that I took a bit to reply - I've been rather busy this weekend. Anyway, I'm still slightly concerned about the vandalism on the page - there have been many reverted edits, but notably, many were IP addresses trying to be constructive, but making unreferenced or non-notable contributions. I've discussed it with other editors who are active in GAN, and decided to wait a few more days to see if negative vandalism continues or increases or not - if so, maybe we can semi-protect the page to fix the problem, but I'm not sure if the article passes criterion #5 at this point. Otherwise, the article looks really good, though. On a side note, I think that the article may be misinterpreting xkcd comic #485, or at least, the statement does not seem to have much to do with rickrolling itself, only Astley. Maybe it's that the computer is being rickrolled? Firebat08 (talk) 01:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying

Thanks for clarifying the category-name situation for "The" Oak Ridge Boys. --Orlady (talk) 17:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Speed

Congratulations on the speed with which you cleared the 'helpme' tags on my talk page.

The first reply suggests that only the first sentence of my query was read.

The follow-up was enigmatic. What did "weird" mean? Weird that it was moved? Weird that I objected to the move?

The suggestion to "take it to WP:MFD" seemed odd. Isn't WP:MFD for pages that one doesn't want to exists _anywhere_? Clearly, that isn't what I was after.

The page is moved back now. In what was a bad precedent, the hijacker was appeased.

Nice speed. -Ac44ck (talk) 23:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

How can it be original research?

The first half of the sentence states that she and Chowder are of the same species, and Panini looks more like a rabbit than Chowder does. HalfShadow 01:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Sonny Throckmorton

On 25 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sonny Throckmorton, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 13:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Look

Look, I'm not trying to be uncivil, I am trying to remain civil, I just didn't appreciate the template, and I saw you rethought it. So I should be less curt. And you're right, my edit summary probably wasn't appropriate. Some days aren't the greatest, so I apologize if I offended you, I meant no foul. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Well I am sorry, and I guess the article benefits from this pointless spat, all ends well in Wikiland today. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Now I shall listen to the song on YouTube, lament our e-fisticuffs, and breathe a sigh of joy and relief, for once. --IvoShandor (talk) 19:50, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

RE:My talk page

Please do not elliminate content without asking me first. Thanks, MHLU 01:02, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

DJ, Take Me Away

I'm a bit busy on my march to the sea, but it would be nice if you could take a look at DJ, Take Me Away and the pile of not-traditionally-notable songs in its navbox. Perhaps a list, instead?—Kww(talk) 02:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Could I persuade you to do it? I've got 500 more articles on my list of "Articles with bad charts" to visit, and then I have to build a new list of them. I'm trying for 100 a day, and that gets pretty damn tedious. I'll get to it next month if you haven't got the energy or inclination.—Kww(talk) 02:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

User talk:DebbieFeldmanJones

Just FYI, User talk:DebbieFeldmanJones has left a reply for you on her talk page. Cheers, Amalthea 17:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Found a Nice Source

I headed to the library here today and found "The Encyclopedia of Popular Music" on the third floor with other reference materials. I promptly got out Book 7 and located the article on Kenny Rogers, photocopied the three needed pages (30 cents well spent IMO), and noted everything I need to reference the article in case I add to Kenny's article page itself. While leaving, I recalled you were looking for some Alabama info. I am considering heading back and finding Book 1 (which I figure it'd be in) and photocopying those pages should you want help with that article as well. I won't be able to return to the library until next week after today passes, but are there other groups or country artists for which I can provide information? Just ask and I can make a weekly/bi-weekly trip to get info, maybe spending time editing the article from the library itself instead of bringing more paper home (at the cost of a dollar to park for 48 minutes LMAO - might be better to just photocopy).

They might have the books at your library, too. They list artist discographies, too, though sometimes novelty albums may be missing - see Kenny Rogers' Short Stories album, for instance, which was not in the encyclopedia but I know came in 1985 - I have pictures of the record itself thanks to the eBay seller I got them from!

CycloneGU (talk) 20:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

hi why won't you tell me how to edit i don't get it

=( David-on-wheels (talk) 17:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

what's encyclopedia dramatica and what's a meme?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by David-on-wheels (talk • contribs) 18:00, 28 November 2008 (UTC) kthx David-on-wheels (talk) 18:08, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Request for assistance

If an otter wants to help out a fellow editor, I could really use someone to archive my usertalk pages as it would take me two or three hours to figure it out. Thanks. Atlantabravz (talk) 22:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Q on formatting discographies

I am admiring your discography tables and wondering how you do that? I'm about ready to post a stub for Oh Boy Records, and have assembled the company's discography in Excel form, but really don't want to type in a zillion || and -- to make the tables nice. I think I can insert new rows in Excel with the characters needed, then post it, but thought you might have a better way? Regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 04:19, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh well, I'll start typing. Thanks for the insight. Chuckiesdad (talk) 04:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Just found a utility for converting spreadsheets in Help:Table#Spreadsheet to wiki table format, it's not perfect but it seems to work for the basics. Regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 07:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Devoted to You (song)

How did you ever come up with the comment that "Nobody ever released it as a single"? The song was released by the Everly Brothers as Cadence #1350, in 1958. The song hit the TOP 10 charts, of all things. Your proposal for deletion seems to be based on a total lack of knowledge of the details of the song's history. -- BRG (talk) 14:22, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I think when I created the article originally (this was over 2 years ago, so I'm not certain) I didn't have the chart data on it; I only had chart data prior to 1954. And in fact, I just copied the data from Mookie's comment on the deletion page, rather than check it out, assuming it was correct; I knew the song was a major hit, so I believe what he gave. -- BRG (talk) 20:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Moving

Time for me to learn something new. How do we go about moving pages? I went to create "Greatest Country Hits", which is a Kenny Rogers album. I loaded it up, expecting it to be a disambiguation page. Instead, a Glen Campbell album has the page owned. Can we rename it to "Greatest Country Hits (Glen Campbell album)", which will be the same title style that I use for Kenny's, and let the title page be a disambiguation? I personally find this preferable compared with just slapping a disambiguation note on Campbell's page as a user searching just the title doesn't get confused then.

The coincidence? Both albums were released in 1990. Who knew?

CycloneGU (talk) 03:57, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Reply copied from CycloneGU's talk page and retitled topic here to match.

To move a page, you click the "move" tab at the top. I moved the Glen Campbell album, you can fix the links left behind so they point to the Glen album. Then when you've done that and made the page for the Kenny album I'll make a dab for you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 03:59, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing, I'll get right to work on that.

In the meantime, Greatest Country Hits (Kenny Rogers album) is now up and I'll get to a disambiguation page for the pair as well. I think that completes Rogers' 1990 history; I'll put in the chronology later after a couple more years are up.

CycloneGU (talk) 04:21, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

That was quick. I only found one link to fix, on the discography. That's done, and the disambiguation page is there. While, according to disamb principles, there are only two uses and the page may not be needed, I will differ in that both are titles of albums, and I'm sure other albums have shared the same name over the years, making the page necessary. =)

BTW, what is a "dab"?

CycloneGU (talk) 04:34, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Reply copied as above.

• Dab = disambiguation page. It's since been done. By the way, please use the full names of the writers in all pages you make; see WP:ALBUM for formatting information. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 04:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

You mean on each album page (such as this one)? I don't have full names, the information I have comes from AllMusic directly. Even in the linked case, I have pictures of the disc and thus don't have the full names there either. If you don't mean the album pages like the linked one, please clarify what you mean. Maybe I can get something else from AllMusic, I'll check into it. CycloneGU (talk) 18:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

To the reply on my page, you mean create a page for each song title and include full name info there? I haven't created any song pages yet, I've merely been linking to what's already there. Or do you mean on AllMusic? CycloneGU (talk) 19:00, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I get it now. =) I noticed while going through the 1999 A&E disc that, on some songs, you find only an initial, not a full name. I did find what you refer to on AllMusic. I'll see what I can do, but for now, I'm going to at least get the albums in place then I can perhaps include links for each song on each page, too.

Would linking to a page about an artist from their last name be amenable? Or is having it on the album page preferable?

CycloneGU (talk) 19:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Cheers for all the advice! One more question. Do we follow the same principle for compilation albums, or just studio albums? CycloneGU (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		Awarded for your tireless contributions to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion including starting over 1000 deletion discussions. Guest9999 (talk) 03:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Does this mean your deletionist ways are finally paying off, Chowder? treelo _radda 12:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. :-P Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 18:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Adding an award for deleting articles. Kinda seems like an irony or something, doesn't it? =) CycloneGU (talk) 06:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Carmelita Fox

Please note that the character does get a number of references on Google News, which I have begun adding to the article. Sincerely, --A Nobody 17:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Resilient Barnstar
		Your contribution and commitment to Misplaced Pages has been undetering.You are a true Wikipedian and honesty Misplaced Pages works because of people like you Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Really sad that your RFAs have not gone through and you along with User:Wisdom89 have been really very unlucky not to be an Admin.But you like him have been undetered and your commitment has not gone down a bit even after each RFA fails and actually I see you only getting better .I have seen one wikipedian who took 15 hours for one edit and sadly left after on the wire closure. Sadly this Wikipedian who used to work for 15 hours for one edit sadly is not around and his drawing where truly outstanding.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk About Fast Turnaround

No need to reply on my page for this one, it's a quick one.

The Kenny Rogers Singles Album is complete, names and all, and baring adding info in the future, I foresee no future edits. I have decided to go to a few compilation albums for now to get those main ones out of the way, and I'll go to the studio albums later on a single run-through, noting ones that still need info. Shockingly, there was a single track on this compilation whose composer was not on AllMusic; fortunately, an eBay seller was able to identify the composer of the song "Sail Away" as Rafe Van Hoy.

Clearly, I cannot source the info to another site, but it comes from someone who was looking right at the record as she typed it to me (I got track times too). I think album articles are one of few that can break sourcing rules (acquire the record and there is the info), but WOULD having this completed this way break Misplaced Pages boundaries for sourcing? I presume not since it's right on the record; I have pictures of the "Short Stories" album as I noted, and it gave me a few missing artists too. Do I just have to submit the reference as independent research and not published online, or how can I handle that?

Again, I'm keeping this page up, just reply here and I'll see it. I'll be visiting your page quite a bit in the future, I feel. =)

Did you find the music encyclopedia at the library, BTW? If not, just let me know if you ever need anything from it, I can look and update articles.

CycloneGU (talk) 06:36, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

... very much for your help. EagleScout18 (talk) 03:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Template:LDSInfobox

Templates go to templates for deletion, not miscellany for deletion. Mind if I move the discussion for you? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 05:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

No, please do...sorry, it's getting late over here and my eyes are giving out on me :) --Eustress (talk) 05:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Flagicons (...again)

Hey, thanks for trying to help me out, but I'm not sure I completely understand your answer. Maybe I'm completely off the mark on this, but are you saying you understand WP:FLAGBIO as saying not to put flags anywhere in the infobox because, as it says, " putting a German flag in his infobox, for any reason, might lead the casual reader to assume he is or was a German citizen."? The policy only says that goes for "the birth and death information in an infobox". But if one assumes it goes for the entire infobox, what about flags before a person's uncontroversial and verifiable nationality? They wouldn't give anyone false assumptions, which is the rationale behind FLAGBIO. Again, I might have completely misunderstood your answer, but I can't figure out what else you could've meant...

Also, the reason I'm asking about this is because I've seen an admin removing the flags, but can't find a policy/guideline on it, and don't want to start removing them myself without being able to point back at something. I hope I'm not bothering you too much with this, especially after finding out you're (surprisingly I might add) not an admin - and hence haven't signed up for this :P Thanks again! --aktsu  00:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

TPH is wrong - MOS specifically makes the difference between using a flag icon for nationality and place of birth/death. --Vintagekits (talk) 09:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

My bad. I must have misread something. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • 15:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem mate.--Vintagekits (talk) 16:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: The First Step

That would be just fine, but we should wait for the AfD result first, which, if the result is anything other than keep, will allow you to freely rewrite the article to be about a different subject. -- Ynhockey 22:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Australia country peaks

I certainly will help. But it is hard to find all peaks since there is little resource (if you found one please tell me). Also some Australian artists didn't even have a page yet...... Langdon (talk) 23:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)i7114080

Rickrolling

Hey, I'm really sorry that that took so long - I got sick last week, and between recovering and the work I had to catch up on, I didn't get any time to go on Misplaced Pages. Anyway, I think that the page has developed very well, and all of my concerns have been dealt with, and I have thus passed the article. Great job! Firebat08 (talk) 23:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

100k city mayor templates

After your action at Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 December 3, I think you might want to comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cities#100k_city_templates.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread this edit summary.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Cakerolling

If you want to speedy-delete an article with an AfD template on it, just indicate this on the AfD page. Obvious speedy-delete candidates can be speedy-deleted through the AfD process, using WP:SNOWBALL as a justification, if there is no significant dissent on the AfD page. -- The Anome (talk) 18:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello again. Please don't add speedy delete tags to articles undergoing AfD. You really don't need to do it: once an AfD is under way, speedy deletion is still possible, under the WP:SNOWBALL provision. Re-adding the speedy delete template actually makes things harder for admins who are trying to speedy-close AfDs, because it makes the client-side Javascript on the deletion form give the wrong prompts. If, on the other hand, there are significant reasonable arguments in the AfD for keeping the article, it would need to go through the entire AfD process anyway, and the speedy delete template would pjust confuse the process. -- The Anome (talk) 18:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Skyroof

Just getting back to you about skyroof: wanted to let you know I have listed it on AFD at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Skyroof. —Lowellian (reply) 21:01, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

TrekWars

Thanks for sending it up to CSD. See my talk page for an interesting discussion I had about it with an admin. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 19:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: removing personal blogs from articles

Thank you for your quick response about removing personal blogs from articles. Could you please see http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Theserialcomma_-_Wikihounding, as the editor who threatened me originally has filed an ANI against me anyway, even though your response was clear, and even though he said if i removed the blog again, he'd file a report. I didn't do remove the blog again, and he still filed the report, so I think he's just trying to goad/harass me. it's like saying, if you step over this line, i will shoot. and then shooting regardless of whether the person stepped over the line. Theserialcomma (talk) 01:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Years in country music

Sure thing. Just one question: how should it be handled if a song peaked in America and Canada in different years? Eric444 (talk) 06:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

The Girl That I Used To Be

I'd hate to see WP:Articles for deletion/The Girl That I Used To Be get closed as "no consensus" because not enough editors said anything. It's at four days already.—Kww(talk) 00:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I guess with a name like yours, you get used to swinging a bigger hammer than I do. If there's even the slightest grain of plausibility, I generally take these things to AFD just in case someone else can find a source.—Kww(talk) 01:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Sol Melia

I left a message for you on my talk page. OneCyclone (talk) 02:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Speedy A9

Hi, You used WP:CSD A9 for December's Keep, but it wasn't appropriate: that's for recordings only and specifically says it doesn't apply to other material. A song (widely available as sheet music etc) is not the same as a recording. See my discussion with Gogo Dodo at User_talk:PamD#Re:_December.27s_Keep. PamD (talk) 08:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Dancing To A Different Beat

An article that you have been involved in editing, Dancing To A Different Beat, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Dancing To A Different Beat. Thank you. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 14:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The result was speedy-delete:Vandalism/bad-faith contribution, see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Different Beat and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Dancing To A Different Beat. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 19:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Kathy Mattea albums

I do put effort into my album entries. I always try to get both names in but was short on time and intended to go back. I'll pass on Mattea's then and go to other artists. I'm not being defensive here and appreciate your efforts to make the entries complete, as do I. Keep up the good work. Regards, Bruce. Airproofing (talk) 17:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. I've done virtually the whole Chet Atkins discography albums over the past year and do have questions here and there. If you notice anything that could be improved or clarified in the entries, let me know.Airproofing (talk) 18:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:Help

Thanks for responding, I'll try asking elsewhere. Mayank12 (talk) 21:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Lookit who got Gr*wp'd!

Wear it as a badge of honour, as anyone who has been the victim of move vandalism knows it simply means you're doing the right thing and the vandals are aware of that. Anyway, you deletionist pig, hope the move-prot does you well and time is still against you on the other thing yknow. Pick up the pace as me and Gorgy will keep making it add up! treelo _radda 22:24, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Re Help

Thanks for response.

I found who I was looking for via his contributions on related pages. Seems he hasn't been active in two years

and won't be interested (my guess). Still, if I google "John Reppy" I get my user page on Misplaced Pages........Don't fully understand.... Calamitybrook (talk) 23:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Category stuff

Hi, Thanks for taking the time to alert me to Category:Vocal trios. I also wanted to let you know that I just repositioned the top part of the closing template at Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_December_8#Chaotic_articles_categories, which wound up in the preceding section because you had inserted it above the section heading, instead of right below. Btw, I would have closed it out myself, but since deletions were involved I thought it should be closed an admin. Am I wrong about that? How did they get deleted so quickly? Cgingold (talk) 00:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Man, it is HARD to list stuff on AfD nowadays! More fun from MascotGuy even when he isn't creating sockpuppets...and more work for me. Anyway, thanks much for putting that speedy notice on the page. Owe ya one. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Please read my response to your !vote. It wasn't me who made G5 not apply. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Uh, you neglected to do what I say...

...so I did it for you. I removed the link to my wiki for The Powerpuff Girls on the article due to ELNO.

However, I'm not angry at you or anything.
~~LDEJRuff~~ 23:04, 8 December 2008 (EDT)

Wait, you knew the link wasn't any good but you added it anyway so someone else (TPH) would have to remove it and have the audacity to turn around and say "you forgot to clean up my mess but I'm not angry" when you finally remove it? Bit wp:pointy if you ask me. treelo _radda 04:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Chris Marion

You might be interested in my response to your comment. - Mgm| 09:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Wookiepedia

I'M FINE THANKS. HOW ARE YOU? LOL Mandsford (talk) 14:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)