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		The Photographer's Barnstar
		For Concrete, Washington. - Omarcheeseboro (talk) 18:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow - a Photographer's Barnstar! (what's a "Photographer's Barnstar"? ;-) Just kidding - thanks, Omar! SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 18:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks.. I checked out the page after seeing the film of the Tobias Wolff book This Boy's Life. I guess I drove right by there too, since I went from Seattle through the N Cascades last year (via Marblemount). I'm glad to see you like the style of my userpage too :) Anyway, great photos! --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 12:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

From Karel

Greetings Kelly:

It's Karel here. I understand you've been having Wikki wars with Joy Diamond over my page. I keep correcting your biased comments and you keep changing them back. Whereas I'm a public figure, I have contacted Misplaced Pages and they'll be taking care of this for me from here on in.

But know this: Andrew did not die of AIDS and I never told anyone he did. If I was misquoted, so be it, but as the AUTOPSY will attest, he DID not DIE of AIDS. He did have complications worsened by AIDS medications that did cause his death, however. A blod clot, too much cholesterol caused by AIDS drugs.

I was not fired the times you say I was. We were not fired and replaced by Phil Hendrie. You have it all wrong, actually. Some parts right, mostly wrong. I was never in the paparrazzi, ever, I was a studio and location photographer hired by specific magazines to gain specific shots. Never stalked an artist in my life. As for struggling stand up, I was paying the bills, so how struggling is that?

In any event, you seem to want to have everything seem negative about me, and that's fine, but it's not your right on this site. Start your own.

So there will be corrections made to the page and then the page will be locked. So much of what you say is biased, from the Tony Snow piece (it was not removed or taken down, I rewrote it and reposted on my own volition without being asked, because I knew everyone would be missing the point). I did not "blame" the engineer unduly, he has responsibility for what is broadcast on the station when he's working the board and he let out obscenties. All these things, that you don't know because you weren't there. I was.

So again, we will be making corrections and then locking the page. You are more than welcome to start a site ihatekarel.com and print whatever distortions you like.

Have a great weekend.

Karel

Snore. Apparently, some people feel they are more important to the global scheme of things than they really are. Trying to tell me in a veiled-sort-of-way that I should stop editing his article because *he* says so...? Puhleeeeze.

First of all - I didn't create the Karel article, I've just edited it and kept it from being vandalized on several occasions. Secondly, there have been several editors working on this article over the last few years - I am just one of those several. Lastly, Karel *was* quoted in an online article in an interview *he gave* as saying twice in that interview that his deceased partner, Andrew Howard, died of AIDS. I find it hard to believe that Karel was "misquoted" - as he claims - TWICE. But for those who need to see proof, here is the link to the interview That Karel believes I am the sole creator and writer of his Misplaced Pages article only shows that he is ignorant of how Misplaced Pages works and unfortunately highlights his paranoia over his misguided belief that I am out to get him. Nothing could be further from the truth. The truth is that the only thing I have ever really done with this article is to improve upon grammar, syntax, and to remove POV statements. This was a real problem when his personal friend, JoyDiamond was revealed to be someone editing the article heavily to make it appear more like a fan page than an encylopedia article. Prior to that, Karel himself was caught editing the article. In both instances, Misplaced Pages's policy on conflict of interest was violated. Strangely, this fact being brought to the attention of both JoyDiamond and Karel has not stopped them trying to make the article more complimentary to Karel and frequently attempting to insert POV statements. But beyond all of this - the biggest problem with both of their edits has been the lack of referenced material to back up what they've either changed or included. Those who know and understand Misplaced Pages policy recognize that this has to be first and foremost in the mind of a serious Misplaced Pages editor. IOW, the "say-so" about the validity of information on the part of the editor is not appropriate nor acceptible in the editing of an article in Misplaced Pages. Both Karel and JoyDiamond seem to want us to ignore this policy. I refuse to do so - and I imagine I'm not the only Karel article editor who feels this way.

As far as Karel's threat that his article will be "locked"...time will tell. It always does. SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 03:41, 19 September 2009 (UTC)