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Listed buildings in Widnes

Could you please take a look at the above list, it's currently a Featured List Candidate and I'm concerned about a possible copyright infringement. Many of the descriptions in the table are based on a single English Heritage source, and some may be too close to their respective descriptions on that site. St Michael's Church and the sewer vent probably have the closest similarities. Thanks in advance. --Jpeeling (talk) 10:58, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Ugh. I hate these. :) Kvetching aside, I very much appreciate your diligence, and I will come take a look at it today, probably pretty soon. A few chores to run! --Moonriddengirl 12:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look at this. Most of the descriptions have now been rewritten by Peter I. Vardy, they look OK to me but your view would be appreciated. --Jpeeling (talk) 17:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I will try to come take a look a bit later today, when I have some free time. I'm ducking out of work to check my messages. :) --Moonriddengirl 17:46, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Vouvray (wine)

Hi

Soory for the slow response. I can confirm that the Vouvray article was all my own work - I don't do copy and paste as you can see from my other stuff. So you're definitely looking at a Wikimirror on that other site. Cheers. FlagSteward (talk) 12:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Answered at your talk page. :) --Moonriddengirl 12:49, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

logo

Do you know how to get rid of the white background on logos? Sedna10387 11:10, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Nope, unless you mean through Photoshop. I presume you're asking if it's possible to make them transparent. You might ask that one at the help desk. They're really good with questions like that. --Moonriddengirl 11:27, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Bowcliffe Hall

Ack, I screwed this up. I was trying to merge the revised temp page history with the old history and somehow I seem to have lost the old history. Sorry. Could you show me how to fix this? — CactusWriter | 12:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Here I come to see what I can figure out. --Moonriddengirl 12:07, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

The history is there. Perhaps you didn't refresh your browser? --Moonriddengirl 12:07, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Egad. That's exactly what it was. What a goofball! I got it now. — CactusWriter | 12:09, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Happens to everybody now and again. :D --Moonriddengirl 12:09, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

New Moon (1930)

Thank you for that information. I will certainly take that into account when editing future articles. Yes, i coopyed that information from another Misplaced Pages article - New Moon (1930 and 1940 films) - which has since been renamed New Moon (1940 film), while unbeknownst to be, that information had itself been ciopyed from that site. Thankyou for fixing up the copyright issue :)--Coin945 (talk) 12:10, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Replied at your talk page. :) --Moonriddengirl 12:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Wait, hold on a second, what exactly do you mean in the talk page, saying that "New Moon (1940 film) now serves to provide attribution for content in New Moon (1930 film) and must not be deleted so long as New Moon (1930 film) exists." (just wondering :D)--Coin945 (talk) 12:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Ohhh, so does that mean tat i can add that so-called copywrited information back, because after the article was nominated for deletion, i removed a large chunk out of it which was practically all copyed from the New Moon (1940) article.--Coin945 (talk) 12:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

P.S. sorry if i'm bugging you by talkingto you every 2 seconds...!! :)--Coin945 (talk) 12:22, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

File:TankAbbottGreenCover99.jpg

Hi, could you take a look at this (see my talkpage and the uploader RubyBeIvrit's)? I'm very surprised by the tone of his reply and as I'm somewhat unfamiliar with what is required in terms of verification of permission it's probably best someone else handles it... --aktsu  14:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I've directed the uploader to the proper procedures for verifying. One thing I notice is that while you tagged the article db-nopermission, you gave him the F11 advisory rather than the {{di-no permission-notice}}. Was this an automated notice? If so, we should get that updated, since the no permission-notice gives much better information in how to address situations where ownership is asserted. Of course, you may have just inadvertently given him the wrong one, which I'm sure we've all done at some time or another. Just today, I warned the Copyright Problems board not to violate copyright. :D His tone is uncivil, but I haven't addressed it, since I felt like it was best to get the copyright matter straightened out first. Thanks for noting & tagging the problem. --Moonriddengirl 14:56, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah, the notice was added by Twinkle. Looking at it's code it subst's {{db-csd-notice-custom}} which given the nopermission-paramter includes {{Db-nopermission-notice}}. Assuming I'm reading things right, the easies way to update it is probably to edit db-csd-notice-custom to include the di-one if given the 2=nopermission-parameter. --aktsu  15:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Um, that one is a bit beyond me. :) Can you fix that, or should we ask User:AzaToth? --Moonriddengirl 15:18, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

The above seems to work testing it in my sandbox, but I asked Amalthea to take a look at it to make sure it didn't break anything (and if there's a reason not to change it). Is there a reason not to use all the di-templates BTW? If so it would probably be better to integrate it properly instead of simply making an exception in the code only for nopermission as my fix does. --aktsu  17:24, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Great! And Amalthea will certainly be able to offer good info. :D I don't know if it would be better to use the di-templates; we might want to wait and see what Amalthea knows. --Moonriddengirl 17:29, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Amalthea is humbled by the vote of confidence. Anyway, as I've said on my talk page, since the db-* notifications of F4, F5, F6, and F11 are more or less remnants, using only the di-templates from now on is certainly not wrong. The db-* versions of both tag and notification were designed for immediate deletion, not for the delayed "delete if" tag.
Cheers, Amalthea 15:39, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

1. There is a German winged word that would be fitting here, but is lacking an English equivalent: I received Vorschusslorbeeren, literally translated as "Advance laurels".

Shale oil extraction

Hi. There is a plan to nominate the Shale oil extraction article for FAC, but before doing this I would like to be sure that there is no any kind of copyright infringement. I believe there is no problem; however, as the article has a long history of extensive editing, splittings and mergers, I would feel better if you or some other expert will take a look at this article. Maybe you could take a look or would recommend some other editor who could do this? Thank you in advance. Beagel (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

That's a bit of a tall order if there's a long complex edit history, but I will certainly try. :) Something may come up in FAC that I don't detect, but I'll run it through the routine I use when investigating potential copyright problems and let you know if anything comes up. --Moonriddengirl 17:29, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you in advance. Better find it now than during FAC ;) Beagel (talk) 17:35, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

←Okay. First thing I found is some duplication of . The article says:

In Independent Energy Partners' Geothermic Fuels Cells Process (IEP GFC), a high-temperature stack of fuel cells is placed in the oil shale formation. During an initial warm-up period, the cells are fueled by an external source of natural gas. Afterward the process fuels itself using oil shale gas generated by its own waste heat.... Alternatively, the formation can be pre-fractured to enhance the flow of shale oil between heating and producing wells.

The source says:

...a high-temperature fuel cell stack is placed within the formation to heat the ground.... Thus, after an initial warm up period (during which the cells are fueled with an external source of natural gas), the GFC process becomes self-fueling from gases liberated by its own waste heat.... Alternatively, the formation can be pre-fractured to enhance the flow of hydrocarbons and accelerate communication between the heating wells and the production wells.

There's a little bit of literal duplication here such as only can be used in quotation marks (that last sentence in particular). Other sections could stand further revision to avoid close paraphrasing.

I'm going to check http: //www.associatedcontent.com/article/1256818/ oil_shale_development.html?singlepage=true&cat=15 more thoroughly (have to break up the link because it's blocked). The program I use hit on some striking phrases in it. I'll check it manually now and let you know what I find. I haven't date compared yet, so I don't know if the text in our article predates their use or how extensive it might be.

Only other thing I found is duplication between Shale oil extraction and a couple of Misplaced Pages articles: Unconventional oil, Independent Energy Partners and Environmental impact of the oil shale industry. You've edited all of those heavily, so it's possible that the text in all three articles was written by you. I haven't checked. If not, you should attribute the source articles. You probably know how already, but if not there's an under-development page at User:Flatscan/Copying within Misplaced Pages which explains.

Off to do the manual check! Update when I'm finished. --Moonriddengirl 19:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Manual check shows that at least some of the text was already in our article prior to the dated creation of that source, which is good news, since it means a reverse infringement is probable. Seems like that article's author is a Misplaced Pages fan. :)

Are there specific sections that concern you? I can do an additional check, but it's kind of time-consuming and I ordinarily would not unless I know that I am dealing with a copyright infringer. --Moonriddengirl 19:31, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for this. It is really helpful. I think that the Independent Energy Partners' paragraph would be rewritten to avoid potential problems. The most doubtful seemed for me the in-situ section–exactly where you found the Independent Energy Partners' section. I have also question concerning the table in the Classification section. This classification is worked out by Alan Burnham and the table (with minor modifications) is published in this document at the page 17. The table in the Misplaced Pages article has all necessary attributes referreng to authors; however, it is very hard if not impossible to present it in very different way. Do you think there could be any problem with this, and if yes, what could be the solution? The author himself has helped to comment and edit this[REDACTED] article including this table (user:Akburnham) and so far did not have any objection for using this table. Beagel (talk) 20:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

User talk:RTCanada

Hello Moonriddengirl. Would you be so kind as to review my actions regarding this user? You had previously warned them about posting copyrighted material. Thanks in advance for any feedback. Paul Erik 17:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I think that was a completely appropriate block. If the contributor can't comply with WP:C, he can't be permitted to contribute. --Moonriddengirl 17:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey, girl ;P

It's been a while. A looooong while. But i'm finally active again, though I think i'm going to stay in my little cave of a sandbox and work on articles from there, not bothering people. XD I don't want to have to get into all the issues that I used to. They gave me headaches and college gives me enough of those. @_@

You've come a long way, haven't you? I was surprised when I checked out your page and saw what you've done. It's kinda embarrassing that, technically, i've been around the Wiki for longer than you and yet you're light years ahead of me in...everything. An inspiration, you are. ^_^

Anyways, I came over to ask a question. I have a really tiny, insignificant issue with my userpage that i'm trying to rectify and I was wondering if you could help me out?

I just added the WikiDragon template, but it didn't center itself as the coding says it should, as far as I can tell. I'm bad with codes, I am not one of the other WikiFey that know how to do this. How do I fix it?Silverseren 17:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi! My wikiactivities are a result of having a very boring life, so I'm not sure that you should be the one embarrassed. :D I'm not really up on the pretty stuff, but I think it will work to center the box if you add the code that I'm adding to User:Silver_seren/Userpage. It looks like it does in Firefox anyway. :) If you don't like it, feel free to revert it on out of there. (Otherwise the text is coded for centering, and it is, but the box is not.) --Moonriddengirl 17:27, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Perfect. Yay! I fixed up some other stuff myself as well. And I don't think there's anything wrong with being a Wikipediholic. I mean, at least you're learning random stuff, right? It's probably better than college...>_> Silverseren 17:46, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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I have reworded National Association of British Schools in Spain, National Association of Local Councils and North and Middle Littleton. Another editor has done a reworked version of New Hall (HM Prison) which I am not responsible for. Hope you are well! Bleaney (talk) 21:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I am, thanks. Just insanely busy! I'll catch those up tonight and try to knock off another letter. :) --Moonriddengirl 22:05, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Just a short note to wish you all the best and hope you're recovering well. Bye for now. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 22:13, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Been a while. Thank you. I am generally recovering very well, though today is not looking like a good one. C'est la vie. So long as I have more good days, I am satisfied. :) --Moonriddengirl 14:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The Red Wolf Conspiracy

I typed in the title above on 'Misplaced Pages; search', and I saw the page had been deleted. Is it possible to bring back that particular article? 196.3.183.92 (talk) 03:22, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, and interpreting this as a request, I have done so. But unless reliable sources are provided to verify that the book meets the notability guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Notability (books), it may be nominated for deletion again through deletion debate. If it is deleted following a deletion debate, creating a new article on the book will be far more difficult. --Moonriddengirl 14:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Soundtrack sections on movies articles

Hi.

So, a couple of hours ago about 50 movies articles appeared on the list of unassessed album articles, and that got me thinking, i usually just remove the project template because is not an album article, but am i right on that?, should i just consider the section as an article, keep the template and assess, move the section creating a new article or keep on doing the same? What do you think?.

Thanks as always. Zidane tribal (talk) 05:37, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi. :) Generally, if there's a clear section on the soundtrack, I have retained the template and assessed. If there's not, I'd remove it. I don't know what the project at large thinks about it, though, because I never asked. I wouldn't create a new article unless the section is particularly well-developed (and be sure to attribute, per Misplaced Pages:Splitting). --Moonriddengirl 14:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

....

yo no entiendo lo que está diciendo perra

Translates as a rather hostile "I do not understand what you're saying". The poster is User:Denbaby, who vandalised Hittites on the 18th September. I've left a level 3 warning on his page. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

He was duly blocked indefinitely, and three posts to your page were removed. You ain't missing anything, though ;) --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Always bemusing to see evidence of skirmish that one has missed entirely. :) --Moonriddengirl 10:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

York Prep Alumni

Hello Moonriddengirl,

This is concerning the addition--and subsequent deletion by you--of Phil Abraham, an actual alumnus of York Prep, Class of 1977. The school is rightfully proud of the successes of its alumni community. You are to be commended for your work in keeping Misplaced Pages accurate, but have alumni listed by other schools (e.g. Dwight School) also been scrutinized in this way?

Thank you. 208.105.76.90 (talk) 14:33, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Replied at your talk page. --Moonriddengirl 14:45, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I was lurking & happened to find a reliable source, so he's back in. Glad you liked the picture ... I've completely forgotten ever loading it, but I did go through very many thousands of Gutenburg books stealing images for us, once upon a time. --Tagishsimon (talk) 14:53, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Well done. :D Thanks. (Wonder why google didn't pick that up? :/) I do like the picture! For some time now I'd been thinking I ought to add something visual to spice up my userpage, and Ch'ang O had seemed the natural. When I picked out my favorite, I was surprised and pleased to see it came from you. So, again, well done. Thanks. :D (I had also been considering the jade rabbit, but Ch'ang O being a girl and all....) --Moonriddengirl 14:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Linking to scans of magazines on WT pages

What are your thoughts on linking (on a Wikiproject talk page) to a site carrying scans of magazines? This is contributory infringement right? –xeno 14:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is. I've recently left a note about that very thing at Talk:William Beckett (singer), though I haven't yanked the link yet (it's being used as a reference). This is a link to one image of a small section of a single page; any website carrying multiple scans of magazines would be right out. --Moonriddengirl 15:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Would you mind taking a look at the present case here and comment? There seems to be confusion as to whether it is acceptable to link such a site as long as it is not on the article itself (and it's not just one or two scans). Thanks, –xeno 15:10, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Minor silliness: I want an edit banner.

I like your edit banner "Welcome, Sinneed. If you are here with ..." that pops up after the usual "This is a talk page. Please respect..." when someone edits the page. My poor search skills have not turned up how to create one (or even if mere mortals can have one). Is there an wikilink you might easily add (I am watching the page) that might guide me to information? If not, no problem, I just want a new toy, it isn't important at all. :) - Sinneed 15:54, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure. :) The basic instructions are at Misplaced Pages:Editnotice. User:Amalthea the Brilliant helped out with personalizing it. A peak at the code of User talk:Moonriddengirl/Editnotice tells me this is done by placing {{REVISIONUSER}} where you want the greeting to go. Mind you, this kind of backward technology is risky, so I would test. :D If you decide to do it and want a second set of eyes, let me know, and I'll come tell you if it's showing me my name. --Moonriddengirl 16:04, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Ahhhh. A new toy. Thank you!- Sinneed

Personal attack

Dispute resolution - moderation request

I have placed a request for neutral moderation on this unedifying and purile spat here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Content_noticeboard#Symi.2C_the_Greek_Island_of Symicat (talk) 09:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I have been doing what I can to resolve what appears to be a personal fight going on on the `Symi` page. My suggestion that an independent moderator try to settle the differences has elicited the response copied below from Symiakos. I object VERY strongly to being called dishonest, and a `filthy libeler.` Could you ask Symiakos to withdraw those remarks, please?

The following lines were by Symiakos:

Unedifying? Peurile? Spat? What silly words you use in yet another of your myriad attempts to make things appear differently from how they are. Any reasonable and honest person would read what has been written above and see two people engaged in an honest debate which doesn't resort to name calling. You always have to do this with every discussion you disagree with. You can't even place an honest description of what has been discussed here on your dispute resolution post. How you behave (including your filthy libels that were deleted on other pages here) makes a total mockery of your professed love of Symi.--Symiakos (talk) 21:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Lmoench Symicat (talk) 16:17, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Your comments on this page (now deleted) and also on the archived Symi-Talk site (still visible in the 'history') where you said that SymiGreece's photos were "mostly of boys in swimming trunks" was an extremely filthy libel with the very clear aim of implying that those who took the photos and/or put them up have paedophilic tastes. That was a lie as there is not a single photo out of about 20,000 of a boy in swimming trunks on that website. All in all, I think my comment was rather restrained.--Symiakos (talk) 19:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi. This is a rather difficult situation to respond to. :)

I understand that both of you have strong feelings on this topic and that there is history that predates (and will likely continue after) this matter is resolved on Misplaced Pages. It does indeed look to be a very personal fight, and language used on both sides has not been in keeping with the policy of Misplaced Pages:Civil. Never mind earlier comments on this talk page (which have already been addressed and were a problem under the biographies of living persons policy) describing a conversation as puerile is not in the spirit of the civility policy. But neither is it within that spirit to imply that somebody else is unreasonable and dishonest.

I am not only a Misplaced Pages administrator, I am also a Misplaced Pages editor, and I speak from experience in saying that disputes on Misplaced Pages are best conducted with a cool and level head. Sometimes, this requires ignoring hostile comments from other contributors and speaking to them as though they had spoken civilly to you. Responding in kind will not help the situation and will also make it difficult for other contributors—who otherwise might be called upon to help if the incivility continues or escalates—to determine who is at fault. When incivility seems reciprocal, sanctions may be imposed on both sides or neither, even if it crosses the line into personal attack. No matter how much reason you may have to dislike a contributor (given on Misplaced Pages or off), you are expected to remain civil here and will find it in your best interests to do so.

In keeping with Misplaced Pages:CIVIL#Removal of uncivil comments, I would personally suggest that you both revise your own comments to conform, focusing on the issue and avoiding unnecessary adjectives or personal comments. Regardless, I would request that you both take care to follow the civility policy in future communications. The point here is to iron out the issues with the article. Here, you should focus on article content only, and you may find it easiest to do if you ignore the fact that you know each other in any other context. --Moonriddengirl 20:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Moonriddengirl. I understand that this is a difficult position for you and for Misplaced Pages in general. I hope you can appreciate that it is not an easy matter to keep a level head when someone makes the "young boys in swimming trunks" accusation, so full of implications of paeodphilia, that "Symicat" did. I believe that Misplaced Pages's line against that user for making those comments should have been stricter than it was, as his accusations were about the most disgusting that anyone could make. I shall withdraw, but I shall not edit my previous comment; it is a fundamental human right to defend oneself against untruth.--Symiakos (talk) 22:23, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I posted no such comments. They may well have been made using the `symicat` tag - I have not seen them - but if so it was without my knowledge or permission.If these comments are still visible, then I agree that they should be removed if that can be done. I will try to find out who did post them, I will assure them that "there is not a single photo out of about 20,000 of a boy in swimming trunks", and on their behalf I apologise unreservedly. I am sure, symiachos, that all the picture on your website (http://www.symigreece.com/symipeople08.htm) comply with the convention of not being posted without the permission of the subject, a responsible adult, or with a model release. Otherwise it would be like pointing an illegal web cam at people - police state stuff. Thank you for withdrawing your remarks. Let's see if we casn keep this civil from now on. I hope the matter of the Symi article can soon be settled.Symicat (talk) 22:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Italian copyright question

Hi! Thank you for your request! Now it's late for me, but rest sure, tomorrow of course I will do whatever I can do for this problem. ;-) Bye! --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 19:21, 23 September 2009 (UTC)