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I agree completely. I think the first paragraph of the Story section could use a few more sentences at the end, and the second paragraph should be removed entirely. The plot of the movie has already ended by this final scene; the scene only exists to give the movie a more surprising close. ~ Jace 18:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> I agree completely. I think the first paragraph of the Story section could use a few more sentences at the end, and the second paragraph should be removed entirely. The plot of the movie has already ended by this final scene; the scene only exists to give the movie a more surprising close. ~ Jace 18:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Factual inaccuracies ==

This movie shows nothing of what the real ] do. The real MIB are heavily involved in a secret government conspiracy to aid an evil race of aliens in their sinister plan to colonize the earth. They will stop at nothing to keep the truth from being heard until its too late. They intimidate witnesses, wage misinformation campaigns, slander those who attempt to inform the public in order to discredit them, and even do assassinations.

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The Tycho Treaty

Why is the Tycho Treaty always being deleted from this site? That section is true, I don't know why there's such a problem with it. You're all wrong about one thing.

It's being deleted because this article is about the film Men in Black, not some non-notable (a Google search on "The Tycho Treaty" +band only brings back 31 returns) band who happened to make an album with a MIB theme. This band had nothing to do with the film, and the continual re-insertion of irrelevant information comes off as a transparent attempt at self-promotion. TheRealFennShysa 03:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
technically it's not self-promotion. i am a friend of the band. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 160.39.188.109 (talk) 05:38, 14 January 2007 (UTC).

Is this it?

This is pathetic, there need to be more info on this! What about the MIB themepark ride?

And what about the gadgets? I got directed here from a "neuralizer" link... (You know, I would write something, but then again...)

As you said... 8)
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Really? Every talk page I've seen indicates the opposite, that if anyone new tries to edit a page they are immediately pounced upon by a host of self-important "editors" who berate and tear apart their efforts, citing a long list of "rules" that no one can understand. The community encourages nothing of the kind, unless you want to add a Simpsons reference. Then you will be welcomed with open arms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.35.27 (talk) 21:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

The Elvis 8-track tape that K plays in the Lincoln Tunnel Scene

What album is that? It sounds pretty good. 147.145.40.44 00:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

That 8 track says on: ELVIS Promised Land RandomCake (talk) 13:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomCake (talkcontribs) 12:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Reference to X-Files series

I just added a paragraph called Trivia that contains reference to an episode of the X-Files TV series which also used the same theme as the movie. However, this has been removed. Is there any reason why such a reference should not be included? I thought it would be interesting to see how the same theme, based upon the comic series, is used in multiple creative expressions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.150.80.101 (talk) 21:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

It was removed because you have no references citing that The X-Files actually used The Men in Black as their inspiration for that episode, only your own impression of that idea - one which you originally posted as The X-Files influencing The Men in Black, which is impossible, due to the timeline. What you posted was not based on published facts, but personal opinion - which should be avoided. TheRealFennShysa 22:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed another page (http://en.wikipedia.org/Men_in_Black_%28The_X-Files%29) stating the link with X-Files already, so problem solved :-)

Chief "Zed"

In the article Rip Torn is credited as playing the role of chief "Zed". Now, in the film, virtually every member of the Men in Black organization is represented by a letter. Now, "Zed" can be a man's name, however it is also a pronunciation of the letter "Z" (pronounced "zee" in America). Now, is his name actually "Zed", or is it simply the pronunciation used for the letter "Z"

The credits list him as "Zed" -- I can't recall if his name was ever seen written in the actual film, but the credits seem a reliable source to spell it out. 129.170.31.68 (talk) 15:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Final Scene

I have made a small edit to the section on the final scene which stated that the marbles which contained earth, the solar system and beyond were Galaxies because this wouldn't make sense, if our Galaxy were contained within a marble and it were moved around by an alien hand and we couldn't see that hand then this would mean we wouldn't be able to see outside our Galaxy, which we can. Also if it were only a Galaxy and for some reason we didn't see the alien and only the other marbles then the huge movements seen would mean we would see other Galaxies suddenly close to us, and then far away. Because of these reasons I feel that the only reasonable explanation is that these marbles contain whole universes (yes, I know a 'universe' is technically all that is, but I don't know any better word for what appears to be contained within the marbles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomCake (talkcontribs) 09:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, a marble contains a whole universe. We see galaxies within the final shot. Alientraveller (talk) 11:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
You do not understand that it is supposed to be a joke. I does not have to and, indeed, does not actually make sense. The whole movie was about a galaxy on Orion's belt, not a universe. Andy120290 (talk) 19:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
We're talking about the marbles the aliens play with, not Orion's belt. Alientraveller (talk) 19:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I think to much is being read into the ending of Men in Black. As stated above I was under the impression that it was just a joke. Sometimes things in films just dont make sence. MattyC3350 (talk) 07:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Awards

Just wondering... if this movie won a Saturn award, why is it only mentioned in the little box at the bottom, and not in the reception section?--RainbowWerewolf (talk) 18:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Spelling of the acronym

At the beginning of the movie, when K brings J to drink after he erased his memory, he gives him a card where "MiB" is spelled with a lowercase "i". Should we replace all the istances of "MIB" with "MiB" in this and all the related articles? Nineko (talk) 03:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps any instances where the acronym is used for the agency should be corrected, but when used in reference to the film, the acronym MIB should be used, as that is how the film was promoted.STAR TREK enthusiast Open channel 02:16, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

The spaceship in the final scene

I haven't find the location of the 'spaceships' the cockroach was climbing to. What is that place? Yuval Y § Chat § 12:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

They're the observation towers at the site of the 1964 New York World's Fair, in Queens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.217.26 (talk) 18:26, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks ㋡ Yuval Y § Chat § 12:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Plot section

The plot section of this article seems to focus largely on the nature of MiB. In my opinion, a very brief intro to MiB should be given, and the rest of the section should focus on the plot. Additionally, the scene with our entire galaxy being in a marble is very, very insignificant. For it to make sense for this to be included in this plot section, the section would have to go into much more detail about the rest of the film, as well.STAR TREK enthusiast Open channel 02:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree completely. I think the first paragraph of the Story section could use a few more sentences at the end, and the second paragraph should be removed entirely. The plot of the movie has already ended by this final scene; the scene only exists to give the movie a more surprising close. ~ Jace 18:19, 9 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justus87 (talkcontribs)

Factual inaccuracies

This movie shows nothing of what the real Men in Black do. The real MIB are heavily involved in a secret government conspiracy to aid an evil race of aliens in their sinister plan to colonize the earth. They will stop at nothing to keep the truth from being heard until its too late. They intimidate witnesses, wage misinformation campaigns, slander those who attempt to inform the public in order to discredit them, and even do assassinations.

Byers 27 (talk) 08:00, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

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