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| "I believe Jasca Ducato described it best in the summary when re-adding the soundtrack to the page: "this article is here to describe the game and its different aspects, including the soundtrack". The soundtrack is information regarding the game; it's not some random list of songs about a random topic that has and will continue to have an indefinite length. The soundtrack is set in stone and has been officially stated, and will most likely remain that way. The only other songs in the game are custom soundtracks that come as part of the Xbox 360 version, which obviously are not important" ] (]) 21:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC) | "I believe Jasca Ducato described it best in the summary when re-adding the soundtrack to the page: "this article is here to describe the game and its different aspects, including the soundtrack". The soundtrack is information regarding the game; it's not some random list of songs about a random topic that has and will continue to have an indefinite length. The soundtrack is set in stone and has been officially stated, and will most likely remain that way. The only other songs in the game are custom soundtracks that come as part of the Xbox 360 version, which obviously are not important" ] (]) 21:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
| :You're still not listening to what we're saying. Please stop re-adding the list - The soundtrack is not ] enough for inclusion. The same goes for first-person shooters for example - Lists of weapons will be deleted per the ] policy, unless they are somehow intrinsically linked to the gameplay itself, one example being Quake, where the rocket launcher helps players to navigate the map. How does the soundtrack to this game stand out? Has it received any notable third-party coverage? In order for something to be included in Misplaced Pages, it must be supported by reliable sources. That's from the ] policy, one of the most important guidelines of Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 00:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC) | :You're still not listening to what we're saying. Please stop re-adding the list - The soundtrack is not ] enough for inclusion. The same goes for first-person shooters for example - Lists of weapons will be deleted per the ] policy, unless they are somehow intrinsically linked to the gameplay itself, one example being Quake, where the rocket launcher helps players to navigate the map. How does the soundtrack to this game stand out? Has it received any notable third-party coverage? In order for something to be included in Misplaced Pages, it must be supported by reliable sources. That's from the ] policy, one of the most important guidelines of Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 00:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
| :As I've said above, and as Eik alludes to, your best bet is to include a list of songs ''from an officially released soundtrack''. ''A list of the songs contained in the game simply isn't notable''. I've given you several options, please at least discuss these before simply reverting. Thanks! ]]] 20:53, 25 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Unpopular?
How come they dont remake levels from this game like they do thps3 is it because it wasnt as popular or didnt sell goood? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.93.26.22 (talk) 17:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC).
Reception
I'll add a section if I ever get time... http://au.ps2.ign.com/articles/375/375225p1.html Iciac (talk) 07:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Stop removing the soundtrack
Some people keep removing the sound track (not just from this but the whole series). For no aparent reason at least explain why you are before you do it please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.162.217.46 (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, i am restoring it right know.---djsiniestros (talk) 00:42, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
ACDC - TNT
Aesop rock - Labor
Agent Orange - Speed kills (darkness version)
Avail - Simple song
Bouncing Souls - Manthem
City Stars - Bad dreams
De la soul - oodles of o's
Delinquent Habits - House of the rising drum
Eyedea & Abilities - Big shots
Flogging molly - Drunken lullabies
Mass appeal - Mass appeal
Goldfinger - Spokesman
Haiku de'etat - Non compos mentis
Hot water music - Freightliner
Iron maiden - Number of the beast
JFA - Beach Blanket Bongout
Less Than Jake - All my friends are metalheads
Lootpack - Whenimondamic
Chad muska ft. Biz markie - Body rock
Chad muska ft. Jeru the damaja - Verses of doom
Chad muska ft. Melle mel - I'm a star.
Nebula - Giant
N.W.A - Express yourself
Public Enemy - By the time i get to arizona
Rocket from the Crypt - Savoir faire
Run DMC - My Adidas
System of a Down - Shimmy
The cult - Bad fun
Distillers - Seneca falls
The Faction - Skate and destroy
The Offspring - Blackball
Sex Pistols - Anarchy in the UK
Toy dolls - Dig that groove baby
Us bombs - Yer country
Zeke - Death alley Magicianbink (talk) 07:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Soundtrack Lists (deleting/editing)
Skateboarding and music go hand in hand. Anyone who has seen any skate video or any extreme sports video can tell you that they set
all the action to excellent music (debatable), and the Tony Hawk Pro Skater games and a few other games (Matt Hoffman's pro BMX,
etc.) capture the visual and aural aesthetic. I agree that just adding the list is a little dull and can make the article seem oddly
edited, so i propose that I should add some notes/blurbs (starting with the first game), to not only convey the points I've made here, but to also give the articles some form of cohesiveness. looking forward to any feedback Magicianbink (talk) 07:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hello. Unfortunately, that music and extreme sports "go hand in hand" in not a good enough reason to include a list of songs in the article (the same rationale could be made with FPS' and guns, but no FPS article will have a list of guns - see WP:GAMECRUFT). If you want to include a list of songs, the best idea is to get the list of songs from an officially released soundtrack, formatted appropriately - Mario Galaxy is a good example to follow. Thanks! Fin©™ 10:13, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I agree for the most part. but you didn't respond to my compromise. I understand that a stand alone list isn't Ideal but i intend to incorporate it in a way that is relevant to the genre. So because we cant make a list in one article, we cant do it on another regardless of how relevant it is?. I understand there are rules, but there are also exceptions to the rules and if you cant see my point then we aren't going to get anywhere, I can see where you're coming from it's silly to just have a list of music. I and many others feel that these games should have there respective play lists within the articles is our request that unthinkable? Magicianbink (talk) 00:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- The rules say what they say. Remember, Misplaced Pages isn't a democracy - It's based on censensus, and the consensus here is that this list is inappropriate, and we've pointed to the relevant guidelines, mainly WP:GAMECRUFT. Eik Corell (talk) 03:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Reading rules as gospel is a problem in and of itself, also i have read the rules and it's obviously debatable in this case, and again i understand that a list on it's own isn't proper but i intend to work on it, given the chance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magicianbink (talk • contribs) 05:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Look, an arbitrary list of "songs that are in the game" will never be appropriate. It's ok in a music game (like Guitar Hero), it's ok if the songs are from a soundtrack (per my Mario Galaxy example) and it's ok if just a few are mentioned ("The game includes music by A and B"). If you want to work on it (and it'll take more than a few minutes), then the best idea is probably create a temp page in your own user space and go from there. Thanks! Fin©™ 09:25, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
- Also, to say "i'll have it ready soon" is not a valid reason to keep it - like I say, if you want to work on it, create a page in your user space, or even just make one huge edit with your changes. Thanks! Fin©™ 09:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I have begun editing the soundtrack list, give me time and ill have it done within two weeks starting today Sunday march 21st if by the time im done you don't like what I've done with it ill concede, also i have seen other articles having a separate page with a link to the soundtrack. that may be something to consider. any help would be appreciated Magicianbink (talk) 00:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
you all like to point out WP:GAMECRUFT to prove why the soundtrack listings aren't appropriate but i can just as easily point out why they're just fine given the content, so instead i ask that you all read ---> and give me time http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:CIVIL#Assume_good_faith Magicianbink (talk) 00:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- You don't seem to be listening to what I'm saying. If you wish to develop the list over a long period (two weeks), the article itself isn't the place for that - use your user namespace or, in the worst case, a saved .txt file and notepad. Not sure why you're linking to WP:GOODFAITH - I don't deny your intentions are good, but an arbitrary list of songs contained in a game simply shouldn't be in an article, unless covered by the exceptions I've noted above. Thanks! Fin©™ 11:22, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Pointless...Magicianbink (talk) 15:34, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
This-> "I believe Jasca Ducato described it best in the summary when re-adding the soundtrack to the page: "this article is here to describe the game and its different aspects, including the soundtrack". The soundtrack is information regarding the game; it's not some random list of songs about a random topic that has and will continue to have an indefinite length. The soundtrack is set in stone and has been officially stated, and will most likely remain that way. The only other songs in the game are custom soundtracks that come as part of the Xbox 360 version, which obviously are not important" Magicianbink (talk) 21:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
- You're still not listening to what we're saying. Please stop re-adding the list - The soundtrack is not notable enough for inclusion. The same goes for first-person shooters for example - Lists of weapons will be deleted per the WP:GAMECRUFT policy, unless they are somehow intrinsically linked to the gameplay itself, one example being Quake, where the rocket launcher helps players to navigate the map. How does the soundtrack to this game stand out? Has it received any notable third-party coverage? In order for something to be included in Misplaced Pages, it must be supported by reliable sources. That's from the WP:V policy, one of the most important guidelines of Misplaced Pages. Eik Corell (talk) 00:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
- As I've said above, and as Eik alludes to, your best bet is to include a list of songs from an officially released soundtrack. A list of the songs contained in the game simply isn't notable. I've given you several options, please at least discuss these before simply reverting. Thanks! Fin©™ 20:53, 25 March 2010 (UTC)