| Revision as of 18:58, 10 December 2010 editJohn J. Bulten (talk | contribs)12,763 edits Thx David; 1 obit isn't notable IMHO bc 2 RS reqd; clarify minibios, tighten re BLP; I'm OK being silent about OHB but it often reflects GWR properly and may be used if so; not even primarily QS-based← Previous edit | Revision as of 20:18, 10 December 2010 edit undoItsmejudith (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers21,743 edits →Notability and sourcing: highlight GWR as RSNext edit → | ||
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| When a person is still living, the strict, exacting ] apply and should be editors' ] in making editorial judgments. | When a person is still living, the strict, exacting ] apply and should be editors' ] in making editorial judgments. | ||
| ] is a reliable source for ages of birth and death, and for whether an individual held a record for longevity. | |||
| ⚫ | When sufficient reliable secondary sources demonstrate article-level notability |
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| ⚫ | When sufficient reliable secondary sources demonstrate article-level notability, the following ] primary or tertiary sources may be used for limited purposes only. They may supplement reliable sources to the degree permitted by local article consensus, but an article should not be based primarily on questionable sources, and should not rely on such sources to make assertions without attribution (e.g., assertions about parties' history of records broken, rank-order placement, or current status as alive or dead in the absence of reliable updates). These sources are generally acceptable for line-item notability in lists, but must be used with care and usually attribution, especially when they disagree: | ||
| *The journal '']'' should be attributed and contextualized, especially when quoting another source listed below. | *The journal '']'' should be attributed and contextualized, especially when quoting another source listed below. | ||
| *] data from grg.org should be attributed and used only as backup to reliable sources. | *] data from grg.org should be attributed and used only as backup to reliable sources. | ||
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About us
The goal of WikiProject World's Oldest People is for editors to collaborately improve, expand, update and discuss articles in regards to the World's Oldest People.
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Importance guide
| Need | The article's priority or importance, regardless of its quality. |
| Top | Subject is a must-have for a print encyclopedia. For biographies, all-time record-holders for oldest woman and man, e.g., Supercentenarian, Jeanne Calment, Christian Mortensen. |
| High | Subject contributes a depth of knowledge. For biographies, aged 115+ for women, 113+ for men. Also, national recordholders, e.g., Maria de Jesus, and Oldest Person in the World, e.g. Emma Tillman. |
| Mid | Subject fills in more minor details. For biographies, aged 112–114 for women, 110–112 for men, e.g., Harry Patch. |
| Low | Subject is mainly of specialist interest. For biographies, aged 110–111, e.g., Alexina Calvert. |
Assessment
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Newsletter
The project has in the past run a newsletter, currently dormant, but which could be revived if there is sufficient interest.
Articles we cover
Notability and sourcing
Articles on centenarians and supercentenarians are biographies and the notability guidelines for biographies apply. Significant independent coverage in reliable sources is required. While some long-lived people are notable principally for their advanced age, e.g., Jeanne Calment, longevity itself, without more is subject to guidance on one-event biographies. A subject with only one or two reliable source might belong on a list, rather than in a stand-alone biography, unless two solid reliable sources provide significant other details that make the subject notable.
Some centenarians and supercentenarians are notable for reasons in addition to their longevity, e.g., Leila Denmark. In such cases, notable aspects of their lives that are reported in reliable sources should be included in their biographies. Although not the primary focus of this project, cases (usually historical) where the advanced age is in doubt should be considered for notability using the same criteria as the cases where the advanced age has been verified by an independent body, e.g., Old Tom Parr is notable. Supercentenarians over 110 should also be included in list articles (line-item notability), whether or not they have a separate biography because of notability beyond their longevity.
When a person is still living, the strict, exacting guidelines on biographies of living people apply and should be editors' guidestar in making editorial judgments.
Guinness World Records is a reliable source for ages of birth and death, and for whether an individual held a record for longevity.
When sufficient reliable secondary sources demonstrate article-level notability, the following questionable primary or tertiary sources may be used for limited purposes only. They may supplement reliable sources to the degree permitted by local article consensus, but an article should not be based primarily on questionable sources, and should not rely on such sources to make assertions without attribution (e.g., assertions about parties' history of records broken, rank-order placement, or current status as alive or dead in the absence of reliable updates). These sources are generally acceptable for line-item notability in lists, but must be used with care and usually attribution, especially when they disagree:
- The journal Rejuvenation Research should be attributed and contextualized, especially when quoting another source listed below.
- Gerontology Research Group data from grg.org should be attributed and used only as backup to reliable sources.
- The Yahoo! group health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Worlds_Oldest_People, like other discussion groups, is deprecated in favor of using any reliable sources it quotes. Uncontradicted Yahoo! WOP data can be quoted on an article talk to satisfy verifiability of a reliable source.