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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
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   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

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{{subst:NewDYKnom
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 | hook         = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author       = User1
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• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
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If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
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	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 22

Fee-for-service, Overutilization

• ... that in health care, a fee-for-service model encourages overutilization, which are treatments of inappropriately high volume or cost?

5x expanded by Jesanj (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed French India Socialist Party (I have one DYK) Jesanj (talk) 02:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• That second comma does not belong there. Should it be replaced by "and" or "of"? -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 00:19, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

• I put "which are" because the end of the sentence defines overutilization. I have a draft (User:Jesanj/Overutilization) that I plan on getting online so it can be a double DYK. (article created) Jesanj (talk) 01:43, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that a fee-for-service model encourages the most important factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care—overutilization? Jesanj (talk) 23:53, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
• ALT2: ... that fee-for-service, which predominates in the U.S., encourages the most important factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care—overutilization? Jesanj (talk) 03:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• ALT3: ... that the fee-for-service model encourages overuse, which is the biggest factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care? rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: While I perfectly agree with this "fact", and it is referenced in that ugly-named article (can't we pipe to the plain English "overuse"?), it's highly politicised, and I'm unsure the data are conclusive. I'd be more comfortable if there were more than one study cited, aside from the JAMA one (even though it's a high-impact journal). Tony (talk) 05:28, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the article at all (I just went through a spurt of hook copyediting yesterday after reading some poorly written hooks in the queues), but I agree it sounds like a very strong claim for an issue on which I imagine there is not universal agreement. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:11, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it would be good to pipe with overuse because that's not verified in the source; overuse is just one part of overutilization. Overuse + overcost = overutilization. Jesanj (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

It would be ideal (though not necessary, right?) to have another high-impact journal stating this, but I did look in the three comments (listed here) that the article elicited and I don't remember seeing anyone question that statement. The three comments were more nit-picky. One mentioned the cost of regulation, one made an issue out of physician compensation, and I can't remember the other. Jesanj (talk) 16:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Responding to your message at my talk page. I would be more comfortable with calling overuse "a significant factor" or "a major factor" rather than "the biggest factor". rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT4: ... that the fee-for-service model encourages overutilization, which is a major factor behind the high cost of U.S. health care? Jesanj (talk) 17:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT5: ... that the predominant fee-for-service model encourages a major factor behind high U.S. health care costs—overutilization? Jesanj (talk) 20:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT4 is less awkward. rʨanaɢ (talk) 08:52, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 23

Anino ng Kahapon

• ... that Anino ng Kahapon is one of the few pro-American novels written while the Philippines was still a territory of the United States?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

• See my reviews all over this page.- AnakngAraw (talk) 00:19, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

• No, it doesn't work to ask others to view 'all over this page'. You have made plenty of nominations, and it is impossible for other editors to keep track if your number of nominations and your number of reviews match. --Soman (talk) 01:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

• So, here's one. I now reviewed another article named Dicksonia Plantation. - AnakngAraw (talk) 14:31, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

• I trimmed the hook ("during the time when" --> "while"). rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
• The article doesn't appear to demonstrate notability. It lists a couple interesting facts about the novel, but as far as I can tell there is no coverage in reliable sources, just a library catalogue entry and a commercial (Amazon-like) website. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Based on experience, as emphasized by one DYK editor in the past, a book is notable if it has an ISBN. And this novel has the following ISBNs ISBN-10: 9715504213 and ISBN-13: 978-9715504218. - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

See this example. - AnakngAraw (talk) 18:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I think you're misreading WP:NBOOK. WP:NBOOK#Threshold standards says "Books should have at a minimum an ISBN (for books published after 1975), be available at a dozen or more libraries and be catalogued by its country of origin's official or de facto national library" (emphasis added). Many non-notable books have ISBNs, including self-published / vanity press books and conference proceedings that are only available in one or two libraries. Just having an ISBN doesn't make a book notable.

Furthermore, that same section says "However, these are exclusionary criteria rather than inclusionary; meeting these threshold standards does not imply that a book is notable, whereas a book which does not meet them, most likely is not." Again, that means that just having an ISBN doesn't mean the book is notable; just that lacking an ISBN means the book is probably not. rʨanaɢ (talk) 18:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Provided more sources, including the book written by Filipino literary critic Epifanio San Juan, Jr. Apart from this, the novel was republished in 2002 by the Ateneo de Manila University Press, a distinguished university and publisher of Philippine literature. - AnakngAraw (talk) 19:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Among the entries now are source from the National Library of the Philippines. Conclusion: the novel/book is notable. - AnakngAraw (talk) 20:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree... the book is sufficiently notable. Rcej (Robert) – talk 07:15, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

The latest San Juan source, at least, is enough to demonstrate notability. For the future, though, I hope you can carefully review the notability guidelines so we can avoid this issue and so you won't end up flooding articles with unhelpful links like library search results. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:50, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

You suggested those above. Let's end the argument here. Please. - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:11, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• The hook fact is not cited in the article, as required by DYK criteria. The article is new and long enough, but the hook fact must be cited. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:47, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Cited now. The wordings of course are different from ref. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:06, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Hook fact in article, cited at end of sentence, supported by source cited. Gtg. Sharktopus 03:09, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 24

Kathleen Cody (actor)

• ... that actress Kathleen Cody starred in 49 episodes of the gothic soap opera Dark Shadows?

Created by Cindamuse (talk). Nominated by Gamaliel (talk) at 23:13, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Created as a one sentence stub by User:Ukexpat, expanded drastically later that day by User:Cindamuse. Gamaliel (talk) 23:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
• Article ok, but please unlink "actress" and "American", per MOSLINK. "Film appearances": could you merge a few paragraphs (might require a touch of re-knitting, might not) so it's not so "bitty"? Tony (talk) 05:40, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Hook is boring. There has to be something better to say than "... that this actress acted". rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Some other suggestions:

• ... that years after long-time actress Kathleen Cody retired to Florida, she was cast in the Peter Bogdanovich film Illegally Yours when it was filming in her town.
• ... that actress Kathleen Cody has appeared in adaptations of works by Arthur Miller, James M. Cain, and Colette.
• ... that actress Kathleen Cody made her Broadway debut at age nine in the Meredith Willson musical Here's Love. Gamaliel (talk) 20:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

The new suggestions are okay (I've changed the format a bit) but there are quite a few problems with the article. Generally, you should have at least one citation per paragraph for DYK. Some sections are entirely uncited, and that is not good (especially for a biography of a living person). Also, the personal life should go before the filmography. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll let the author of the article know about these concerns. Gamaliel (talk) 14:59, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't recommend going the DYK route with this article just yet. The uncited content is sourced to IMDb, simply expounding on the filmography. I would prefer to find sourcing outside of IMDb. I became ill while working on it and haven't been able to get back to it yet. I wouldn't go with the hook, "... that years after long-time actress Kathleen Cody retired to Florida, she was cast in the Peter Bogdanovich film Illegally Yours when it was filming in her town." She was only cast as an extra in that film, as "Cable-TV Housewife". Also, please make sure to contact User:Ukexpat, since he created it. I simply expanded it during NPP. Another idea for a hook could be:

• ... that actress Kathleen Cody was the last actress signed to a contract by Disney Studios, since Annette Funicello.

I restructured it a bit. Please feel free to revise at will. I'm traveling now and will take another look at sourcing this evening. I'll also contact the subject for an image for the article. Thanks, Cind.amuse 00:37, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 25

Sir William Young, 1st Baronet, Sir William Young, 2nd Baronet

• ... that although Sir William Young, 1st Baronet left his son his four Caribbean estates after his death in 1788, he passed on debts amounting to £110,000, equivalent to over £11 million today?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Ok, except for 251 char hook, which can be trimmed easily enough. Johnbod (talk) 13:57, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Sir William Young, 1st Baronet, the first Governor of Dominica, in his will gave four Caribbean estates to his son Sir William Young, 2nd Baronet, but the father's 1788 death left behind £110,000 in debt, a figure equivalent to over £11 million today?
  

It's not under the 200 character (including spaces) limit but it's closer, maybe someone else can craft a better hook? Shearonink (talk) 02:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I like your re-crafted hook, Doctor, maybe even?...

• ALT2 ... that Sir William Young, 1st Baronet, in his will gave four Caribbean estates to his son, but the father's 1788 death left behind £110,000 in debt, a figure equal to at least £11 million today? --Shearonink (talk) 14:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Mini Hatch (2001–2006)

• ... that as the full-sized clay mock-up of the original new Mini Hatch (pictured) was missing an exhaust pipe, chief designer Frank Stephenson, had to make one out of an empty beer can?

• ALT1:... that the exhaust pipe of the original new Mini Hatch (pictured) was a result of a positive result from a presentation when before at the last minute, it had to be made from a beer can?

Created by Rangoon11 (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• • The actual hook needs a citation. as its currently without a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Blofeld (talk • contribs) 10:56, 26 June 2011 UTC (UTC)
    • Since I nominated this article not created it, wouldn't the reference at the end of that paragraph be where the reference is, it is hard to know since I did not write this article, I think its worth informing the creator about this issue. Donnie Park (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
      • I have now fixed it, alternatively would these source be acceptable . Donnie Park (talk) 16:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Grant Speed

• ... that before he began shaping sculptures of the American West, Grant Speed of Utah had been a ranch-hand, horse breaker, and rodeo performer?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

ARTICLE overlinked. Or it was. See MoS about "USA" and "ly-". Consider W for Western at the start; but it's unclear you mean "a sculptor in the genre of Westerns", or something like that (I'm unsure). Certainly it's no good in the hook (a western-themed sculptor? The theme was his, applied to his sculptures. Buzz me if you need assistance in these re-phrasings. Independent copy-edit would be good ... a quick one (e.g., "to devote full time to his art"). Hook interest ok. Tony (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Hook has been revised. Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Stave Falls Dam

Tzeltal people

• ... that the Tzeltal people (Tzeltal child pictured) are the largest indigenous group in the Mexican state of Chiapas?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:38, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• REVIEWED Robert Hull Fleming Museum Thelmadatter (talk) 02:45, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and hook okay. AGF for offline sources. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Not yet. But I think we could construct a tasty hook based on their connection with Maya people. Lightmouse (talk) 15:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Jan Claudius de Cock

• ... that the Flemish artist Jan Claudius de Cock decorated the Breda Palace "William and Mary" ceiling (pictured) for King William III, stadtholder of the Netherlands?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Bourke B. Hickenlooper

• Interesting article. The hook seems a little ordinary for a DYK. Is there an extraordinary claim that can be made? If not, perhaps it'd be better to go for GA. Lightmouse (talk) 16:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that a rare panel in Vaduz of Sts. Anthony Abbot and Paul of Thebes is considered "the masterpiece of Jan de Cock", who stands out among the Mannerists? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Length, date (considering the nomination date) and reference check out. If you want to go ahead with ALT1, that is fine. However, seeing as the family name is "de Cock" I don't see why we can't try something a little different.

ALT2 ... that a de Cock decorated the ceiling at Breda Palace?

A lot hookier, although it might be best saved for April Fools. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:00, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 26

Majority Judgment

• ... that politically-aware French voters could identify the top four candidates in the 2007 French presidential election based on ratings from a poll which used the Majority Judgment voting system?

Created by Homunq (talk). Self nom at 10:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• It would be more interesting if I could state that the poll results did not agree with the official results... but it's hard to get that into 200 characters without leaving out crucial details ("presidential", "politically-aware", etc.) Homunq (talk) 11:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

How about:

• ALT1 ... that ratings from a Majority Judgment (voting system) poll of the 2007 French presidential election were clear enough to identify the four major candidates, even though the rating order disagreed with official results?

Or:

• ALT2 ... that observers of the 2007 French presidential election could tell which major candidate had earned each rating in a majority judgment poll, even though the winner under this voting system was not the official one?

Date (based on date of nom), length, and hook fact all check out. I prefer ALT2 (I've done some slight formatting to the hooks, hope nobody minds) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Wardang Island

• ... that Wardang Island was used for trials of myxomatosis and rabbit haemorrhagic disease?

• Reviewed: Eduardo Avaroa Andean Fauna National Reserve ()

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook refs verified. —Bruce1ee 09:24, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Seems inherently interesting to me. For those that don't know about the disease, it may be possible to create a hook about deliberate infection and/or disease escape. Lightmouse (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I think the fact that these two diseases were engineered and released to control a serious pest (introduced by the European invasion) should be in the hook. Article: ref notes don't specify page numbers or page ranges for specific claims. "successful" × 2. Very promising article. Tony (talk) 05:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Wardang Island was used for trials of viruses for exterminating rabbits in Australia? Maias (talk) 14:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I think that's better and have no further need for input but don't pass it without a response from Tony. He's more familiar with this topic than I am. Lightmouse (talk) 12:05, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• Hook is flat, I think. Article is very very good. I hope you're working on more ... please. You might consider (now CSIRO).

  :ALT2: ... that in the 1950s, Wardang Island was the site of a pioneering experiment to develop a biological solution for controlling the plague of instroduced rabbits in Australia? Tony (talk) 12:16, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

King Creole

• ... that the 1958 King Creole, based on the novel A Stone for Danny Fisher,

was set to be starred by James Dean as a New York boxer, but ultimately after his death the role went to Elvis Presley as a New Orleans club singer? Created/expanded by GDuwen (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Three to four day old article. That means it is still new. Ref cited to offline source. Accepting in good faith. Length way beyond the minimum. Good to go. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:50, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Could you apply the style guides? Date format comma, spaced dash for full dates; "The New York Times gave a favorable review to the movie"—did they mail it? Please consider avoiding a left-side pic adjacent to the infobox. Narrow screens will squash the text badly. Why not a 240px pic, anyway? Promising article, and good work thus far. Tony (talk) 07:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

This hook is 220 characters long. Hooks cannot exceed 200 characters, unless the hook contains multiple DYK articles. OCNative (talk) 07:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1:... that the 1958 movie King Creole was set to be starred by James Dean as a New York boxer, but ultimately after his death the role went to Elvis Presley as a New Orleans club singer?--GDuwenTell me! 16:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Hook is now appropriate length. Date, length of article, and refs checked out by AnakngAraw. Tony's concerns appear to be addressed. This looks good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 23:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, but this has only been expanded 3.6x (11164 / 3081 (on May 29, 2011)). —Bruce1ee 07:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

How can this issue be assessed?--GDuwenTell me! 15:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

You need to add about 4,200 characters of prose to the article to achieve the 5x expansion. I don't know if that is possible. Please see the DYK rules. —Bruce1ee 04:52, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2:... that the 1958 King Creole film, based on the A Stone for Danny Fisher novel, starred Elvis Presley as a club singer instead of James Dean as a boxer? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT2a:... that the 1958 film King Creole, based on the novel A Stone for Danny Fisher, starred Elvis Presley as a club singer instead of James Dean as a boxer?--GDuwenTell me! 15:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT3:... that the 1958 King Creole film (poster pictured) starred Elvis Presley as a club singer instead of James Dean as a boxer? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 28

Battle of La Flor, Battle of Las Cruces (1928)

• ... that the U.S. commanders at the Battle of La Flor and Battle of Las Cruces were each awarded the Navy Cross for their actions against the Sandinistas in the Banana Wars?

Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Everything checks out, AGF on the offline sources. However, Battle of La Flor needs a citation right after the hook fact (the Navy Cross sentence). Once that's fixed, you may change my review to {{subst:DYKtickAGF}} without contacting me. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thomas Ford Chipp, Imatong Mountains

• ... that Thomas Ford Chipp found Coreopsis Chippii in the Imatong Mountains?

• Reviewed: Jeremy Howard-Williams ()

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• date, length, refs fine. Minor requests: Chipp's article says "collected", the source suggests "discovered", - "found" seems almost too weak. It looks like the plants are named after him? I didn't see that in the hook, perhaps others are as blind? And perhaps add 1929? The related mountain has a bare url, btw. - Interesting fact! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
  • How about ALT1 below? The plant is named after Chipp, but I don't think that needs to be spelled out. I am reluctant to use "discovered" as in "Columbus discovered America" when the local people presumably already knew it was there. I will try to add to the mountain article, and to ecology/people on this one. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that in 1929 Thomas Ford Chipp found Coreopsis Chippii in the Imatong Mountains?
  • ALT2:... that in 1929 Thomas Ford Chipp found Bidens chippii in the Imatong Mountains?

    Names of species should be italicized; plant names do not usually capitalize the epithet, and the current scientific name is Bidens chippii. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• But Chipp ("Chippy" to his friends) called it Coreopsis, a name immortalized in The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. ALT2, I suppose, for the sake of accuracy, but reluctantly. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:34, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Clemenstone

• ... that Clemenstone, a hamlet in south Wales near Wick, was the seat of several high sheriffs of Glamorganshire?

• Reviewed: Mikhail Lakhitov

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 10:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

The Ride to Conquer Cancer

• ... that The Ride to Conquer Cancer is the largest cycling fundraiser in Canadian history?

• Reviewed: SR Battle of Britain class 21C151 Winston Churchill ()

Created by Resolute (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 16:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• Should that clarify that this is in terms of dollars raised rather than people involved? That's what the source says. All Hail The Muffin Nor does it taste nice... 21:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
• That seems like a good idea. How about ALT 1-- that The Ride to Conquer Cancer raised more money than any other cycling fundraiser in Canadian history? --E♴(talk) 00:26, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

The Cenotaph, Whitehall

• ... that The Cenotaph, Whitehall (pictured) replaced a wood-and-plaster cenotaph erected in 1919 for the Allied Victory Parade?

Created by Thom2002 (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length okay, but hook is not properly cited (only a title provided and nothing else). Also, much of the article is not cited. – VisionHolder « talk » 01:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Have now gone through the article and updated, adding citations. Also realized it was an expansion from existing text at Cenotaph and have now ensured that it is 5x expanded from that text as well. Should all be cited now, and it's a tempting one to keep expanding for GA. Might have to hit the library. :) As I've added myself as co-creator, I've also reviewed Herlinatiens above. Miyagawa (talk) 14:16, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article looks good now, although the sentence that talks about the wood-and-plaster cenotaph needs to be reviewed. I found an error in the sentence structure, and hopefully I fixed it without changing the intended meaning. Otherwise, I checked the source and it seems to all look good. – VisionHolder « talk » 18:24, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me, thanks Visionholder Thom2002 (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Wedlock (band)

• ... that Paul Allgood and Chris Scendo of the band Wedlock have released new material online, and have signed a two record deal with their new label Exquisite Noise?

Created by Kthapelo (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Walang Sugat. ceradon 23:40, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

While dates and length check out, I have notability concerns: the creator has written what appears to be a walled garden of articles for this unremarkable two-piece band (including albums, and singles) with more personnel changes than singles. Much hinges on whether the sources cited are reliable. Some seem to be directory entries; there's also recycling of press releases. Uninspiring hook: what band these days does not release material online? Kounterfeit Records and Exquisite Noise don't seem to be notable. --Ohconfucius 06:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

William L. Brandon

• ... that William L. Brandon, a Confederate officer, had to have his leg amputated after a ball went through it?

Created by Ceradon (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ceradon, I just looked at your article, which has a ton of great info and sources on Gen. Brandon. However, there are several things that need to be fixed before it's ready for DYK, or for Misplaced Pages.

• Per DYK reviewing guidelines, your hook fact (his amputation) "must be immediately followed by an inline citation to a reliable source," which you don't have there at the moment, it's down at the end of the paragraph.
• I didn't make an exact count, but reading through, I noticed maybe a dozen careless typos, and some spelling and grammar errors. You should proofread again and correct, starting with your lead sentence: ". . . best known for serving with the Confederate General in the American Civil War."
• Also in that first sentence, the name of the state should appear after the county names. Not everybody who reads Misplaced Pages has a clue where Adams County is, you know.
• When you make an inline citation for a printed source that is not viewable online, it should NOT be wikilinked; that just makes a circular link back to your own article, which serves no purpose.
• What you call the "Notes" section should be relabled "References"; and what you call "References" should be relabled "Bibliography."
• Then the contents of the bibliography section should be put in alphabetical order, going by the first word in each entry. In all but one case, that is someone's last name. However, although you correctly use Last Name, First Name on those, you should NOT do that for an organization name. Meaning - change Company, Reprint to simply Reprint Company.
• For an encyclopedia article, I wonder if it's truly important to devote so much space in this article to the minute medical details of his amputation. Those details are about one-half of your word count - but do they really outweigh all the other things that occurred in his life?
• All but one of your citations are to printed books, so I can't verify the accuracy of your claims and have to accept them in good faith. However, when I read sentences such as "he labored to bring out every man needed for the service of the Confederacy," I have to wonder if that is your own language, or if you copied it out of a book? It's fine to use quotations, as long as you put them in quotation marks and identify the source - but simply lifting whole phrases and sentences from a source is plagiarism. I'm not saying you did that, but please consider your writing methods here.

Having said all that, I think it will be a fine article when you get it cleaned up. If you need help, hit me at my talk page. Textorus (talk) 03:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I've gone through and fixed a number of things in the article, though I left a couple editor's notes here and here that should be addressed. A couple of the points Textorus raised aren't valid; linking the citations can be useful and I've seen it done in a number of high-quality articles. As for the naming of the reference sections, it's perfectly fine as is (I've use the same format - Footnotes and References sections - in 20+ FAs). One last thing: you've got a reference to "Welsh 2006" - should this be "Welsh 1999" or "Warner 2006"? Parsecboy (talk) 13:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean a Minnie ball? The link you used makes it look like it's a cannonball...I think it should be Minié ball or "minie ball" (pronounced 'minnie'). Shearonink (talk) 23:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

NOTE: I have withdrawn my nominated article, so someone else can take over the review of this article. The author of it has not yet responded. Textorus (talk) 03:05, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Jacksonville Braves

• ... that in 1953, the Jacksonville Braves became one of the first two racially integrated baseball teams in the South Atlantic League?

5x expanded by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed İncili Çavuş--Cúchullain /c 17:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

It would be more interesting if we add the names of two of those players who later became major stars. How about this alternative--Cúchullain /c 14:07, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT: ... that in 1953, the Jacksonville Braves became one of the first two racially integrated baseball teams in the South Atlantic League by fielding players including Hank Aaron and Félix Mantilla?

Articles created/expanded on June 29

Goman

• ... that Goman was an ex-slave leader who led a peasant revolt in Southern Grand'Anse, Haiti between 1807 and 1820?

Created by Calliopejen1 (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 09:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date checks out. Inline citation supports hook. At 1620 B, this article is a little short on length. With 8 refs available, I believe we should expect more content, more links and hopefully an image in this article. There should also be a lead section and at least one other section. DiverDave (talk) 01:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• There are now 2 sections, and I expanded the lead. Note that much of the material in the 8 English lang refs is duplicated, while the content in the French lang books is difficult for me to sort through. There isn't a photo of him in Commons.. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:05, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Badi Uzzaman

• ... that Badi Uzzaman was granted political asylum in the United Kingdom after acting in a film hostile to the government of Pakistani General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq?

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

One source is not good enough. Please find more sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Rami Levi Hashikma Marketing

• ... that you can buy chicken for 1 shekel a kilo (13 cents a pound) at Rami Levi supermarkets?

• Reviewed: Jerbourg Point ()

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Length, creation date and references to hook verified. Good to go!Some one should emulate this model in India where food and consumer articles prices are raising alarmingly.--Nvvchar. 01:56, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
• Something I could not parse: what is a 'holiday discount' - a discount for purchasing holidays or discount offered on public holidays? --Ohconfucius 06:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Fails rule F10:- The article reads like the company's promotional material, as does the hook. I've tried copyediting it, but there's just too much. --Ohconfucius 06:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• I fixed the part about holidays.
• Ohconfucious, I do not understand the reasoning for your advertising tag. None of the information in the article (except for the list of store locations and the names of the fast food outlets in the supermarket) is from the company's website – all the information comes from reliable news sources. I tried to present the information as neutrally as possible. It would be helpful if you would identify just what sounds too promotional to you. I also don't understand why you would delete a sourced fact like the company's market share increasing 464% between 2008 and 2011 on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. I didn't even include the recent news item where he promised to deliver free groceries every week to the orphans of the Itamar attack until the youngest turns 18.
• If the hook seems promotional rather than catchy, here is an alt:
• ALT1: ... that Rami Levi introduced supermarket price wars to Israel? Yoninah (talk) 09:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Unsure whether I like the original hook or ALT1 less. Certainly, the advertising issue is more obvious in the original. Could you avoid left-sided pics unless clearly ok? The text will be squashed at many window widths. 240px would be good, too, for both. What does this mean: "Now he did turn a profit,"? "a 40 square metres (430 sq ft) stall"—awkward (no "s", to start with). MoS suggests reversing, where you do need the s: "a stall 40 square metres (430 sq ft) in area", which also removes the hyphen issue. It's hard, but can the readers get a better grip on what new shekels are worth, in US$? Possibly a footnote to the as of 2011 exchange rate? If it didn't have those newpaper refs, it would be deleted as non-notable. I'm not entirely comfortable with this, but I can't put a clear case against a DYK once the prose is fixed up throughout. Tony (talk) 10:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, ALT1 is already much better. It's certainly a distinguishing claim, although hard discounting is nothing new, except to Israel in 2007. As to the spam, I'd say that just because its third-party sourced does not necessarily make it non-promotional. There are all sorts of publications out there covering the wide spectrum from objective factual reporting through PR right through to blatant unabashed advertising. Let's not forget that the Israeli press is hardly neutral in the current political context in the Middle East. As an obvious success story, it's being written about in admirative glowing terms. The apparent threatening of its existence in the occupied territories by Palestinian Authority mandated boycott is of equally obvious propaganda value. I have copyedited part of the article, at the same time as removing spam. For instance, I merged the examples of price-cutting into a picture of their continuous strategy. I havent yet touched the on the worst of it, in the sections which follow, but I hope that my work can show you what can be done; I shan't be doing any more.

  I removed the reference to the 4-fold increase in market share or the improvement in share price? Well it's not terribly encyclopaedic. Publicity stunts are generally unencyclopaedic except when its part of another coherent picture, so I'd definitely leave out the bit about free deliveries. And a fourfold increase doesn't mean anything, for it could be 0.1% to 0.464% share, or 10% to 46.4%; plainly writing its position as the third behind Shufersal and Blue Square with x% market share suffices, I think. --Ohconfucius 16:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you, OhConfucious, for your constructive edits. I will try to fix up the rest of the article per your examples. Yoninah (talk) 17:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

William M. Hutchins

• ... that William M. Hutchins, a professor at Appalachian State University for the past 33 years, is the translator of the Cairo Trilogy by Egyptian Nobel Prize-winner Naguib Mahfouz?

Created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC) I liked the contrast offered by the obscurity of Appalachian State versus the worldwide fame of the Cairo Trilogy, commonly regarded as the finest work in modern Arabic literature.
Wordpress blogs are user-created and very unreliable (WP:BLOG). Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. I've changed the wording slightly, and the sourcing to the Nobel Prize page itself. Hope this is good for approval now... - Peripatetic

I did correct the wrong hyphen in another hook just a few days ago. Please remove it. Hook is of marginal focus of interest, I've got to say. To make the notability more comfortable, why not include a list of at least a few of Hutchins's publications. A quick look at google scholar should do it. The university webpages are barely enough. There's a slight sense that Rule D7: An article should not look like "work in progress", and must "deal adequately with a topic" is not satisfied. Rather short, even if over the 1500 minimum. Tony (talk) 10:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I edited this. Place of birth not available??? Need links added, can use the universities for links. What about a box? Billy Hathorn (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Cheslakee (steamship)

• ... that the only loss of life recorded in the 70 year history of the Union Steamship Company of British Columbia was as a result of the sinking of the steamship Cheslakee (pictured)?

Created by Mtsmallwood (talk). Nominated by NJR ZA (talk) at 14:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• But I think it's more interesting that despite causing all those deaths, the ship was refloated and set out again, despite already sinking once! ResMar 20:37, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Suming

• ... that merging indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music, Taiwanese singer Suming evoked qualities of attractive "kapah" (young men) in his matrilineal Amis tribe (pictured)?

• ALT1:... that a song by Taiwanese singer Suming evokes qualities considered attractive in "kapah" (young men) within his matrilineal Amis tribe (pictured)?

Created by Puchku (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• He's hot! </frivolous> ARTICLE: Way WP:overlinked. Please see my edits, and I think Ohconfucius took an interest in this one linguistically. For my part, it was worth working on for anthropological reasons; hope you do more, but you could brush up on WP:MOS, WP:MOSNUM, and WP:MOSLINK. Date format corrected. Typos. I really don't like the Chinese script in running text, but OhC clearly thinks it's ok. HOOK: Well, I like the original better, but why not remove "kapah"?

  ALT2 ... that Taiwanese singer Suming (pictured) merged indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music to evoke specific qualities of attractive men in his Amis tribe, including fishing and cooking skills.

  It's a little over the limit, but possibly might get through the admins. What do you think? Tony (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the edits, and the pointers to MOS. I'm also interested in the singer for mostly anthropological reasons, and the "alternative cultural activism".

  HOOK:I included "Kapah" because this is the name of the song, but I don't insist on including it.

  ALT2 is great! I'd love to use ALT2 if admins would make an exception for its exceeding the character limit.--Puchku (talk) 19:04, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I've reworked it slightly. The article's emphasis is indeed unusual, which makes it interesting. Wordcount, dates and sourcing are all satisfactory. I also prefer ALT2. --Ohconfucius 02:17, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Agree with tick. Puchku, I boldly edited my ALT2, since it has to have "skills" or "abilities" at the end. Took out "young" and "matilineal", since neither is essential, I'm hoping. Tony (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Tony, I think I prefer your original version - leaving "young" and "matrilineal" in.

Why "young" - the name of the song is "Kapah", which literally means something beautiful and shiny, and also young men, whose traditional dress is the more decorative among all age groups. In A'tolan, men over 40 are no longer "Kapah". While Amis men in general are expected to have these skills, the song is not about "attractive men", but about the young men in the age organizations, who are shiny and beautiful, and the abilities they are proud to have. If the hook has to be a fact, I would say we should leave "young" in.

Why matrilineal - my understanding is that the hook tends to mention something more exotic. The paragraph in the article which the hook refers to mentions other qualities kapah should have. The ability to "cook" sounds less exotic without the context of Amis being a matrilineal society - hinting at a kind of gender roles reversal compared to western societies. However, since this hook is also exceeding character limits, I don't insist on keeping "matrilineal".

ALT3 ... that Taiwanese singer Suming (pictured) merged indigenous lyrics and electronic dance music to evoke specific qualities of attractive young men in his matrilineal Amis tribe, including fishing and cooking skills.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puchku (talk • contribs) 17:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

This article is also nominated at June 28 Section. - AnakngAraw (talk) 15:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

My mistake! I removed the nom. Rcej (Robert) – talk 04:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

2011 royal tour of Canada

• ... that the Duke of Cambridge's Personal Canadian Flag (pictured) was unveiled during the 2011 royal tour of Canada?

Created/expanded by Zanimum (talk). Self nom at 00:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Article does not say it will be unveiled during the tour.Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:10, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Whoops. Fixed, plus a note about its first appearance, in a cockpit window, as opposed to just a graphic as it was on the 29th. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

May I suggest that this nomination be included in Friday's Canada Day special holding area? -- Zanimum (talk) 00:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Good to go date length etc ok Jim Sweeney (talk) 20:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Could anyone reading this message please consider including this in the Canada Day (July 1) DYK queues? Because this flag was only announced yesterday, there wasn't time to get this approved and into the holding area before then. If someone would be so kind to take mercy, and add it to one of the relevant queues, that would be amazing! -- Zanimum (talk) 20:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• Hold on! The 2011 royal tour of Canada article (note updated capitalization of article name) is currently at AfD. - Dravecky (talk) 11:27, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• This is already in Queue 4. Obviously whoever promoted it didn't remove it from here. When the hook was still in Prep 4, 2011 royal tour of Canada was put up for deletion, and I removed the link to the article, making the hook a single-nom so it could still make it for Canada day. If it remains in the queue, the nom must be removed from here. —Bruce1ee 11:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Since Duke of Cambridge's Personal Canadian Flag already made it to Queue 4, I am stripping the flag from this nomination to make it a nom solely for 2011 royal tour of Canada, pending AfD. If it survives AfD, then someone will need to review it (and probably propose an ALT hook). If it fails AfD, then this nom should be removed. OCNative (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 30

Frederik Wilhelm Stabell; Battle of Trangen

• ... that Frederik Wilhelm Stabell's merits at the Battle of Trangen and other battles of the Dano-Swedish War of 1808-1809 earned him the Order of Dannebrog?

Reviewed Theil–Sen estimator. See . Oceanh (talk) 08:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Collins H. Johnston

• ... that Collins H. Johnston, halfback on the first Michigan football team in 1879, later published papers on eclampsia, tuberculosis, cardiac murmurs, and pulmonary abscess?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 00:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Robert Emmet Odlum. See diff. Cbl62 (talk) 03:48, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

The Captive (painting)

• ... that the man who bought Sterne's Captive (pictured) had John Raphael Smith's engraving plate broken after only 20 prints had been made?

• Reviewed: BMW F650CS

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Fabian Wrede class training ship

• ... that the Finnish Navy's Fabian Wrede class training ships are all named after Swedish people?

Created by MKFI (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:14, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• (article creator here) oppose on this hook; Finland is bilingual, and many Finns have Swedish names. The namesake of the lead ship Fabian Wrede sv:Fabian Casimir Wrede is from the Wrede af Elimä branch of the family, at that time noble families in Finland had practically exclusively Swedish names as it was the language used by the administration and upper class. The names are in use because these officers were involved in the construction of Sveaborg fortress, modern Suomenlinna. MKFI (talk) 12:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Paling in 't groen

• ... that paling in 't groen (pictured) is a Flemish dish of eel in a green herb sauce?

Created by SomeHuman (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 04:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Creation date confirmed. Hook verified through online English-language source. Can someone verify the other ref because it "appears Flemish to me..." Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Botaniska trädgården (Uppsala)

• ... that the Botanical Garden in Uppsala, Sweden (orangery pictured) was built on land donated in 1787 by King Gustav III?

Created by Sharktopus (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 17:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed William Van Wagoner, below. Drmies (talk) 20:58, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

:* Length, date and refs look good. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​ 19:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Yikes, what hath God wrought? Thanks so much, but I would like to propose a different hook... Sharktopus 01:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that 128 cannons were fired when Sweden's King Gustav III laid the cornerstone of the 'orangery" (pictured) in Uppsala's Botanical Garden?
• ALT2 ... that one sickly lion, two Swedish kings, and 128 cannons figure in the history of the orangery (pictured) of Uppsala's Botanical Garden?
• ALT3 ... that one sickly lion, two Swedish kings, and 128 cannons were involved in the history of the orangery (pictured) of Uppsala's Botanical Garden?
• The hook facts come from a Swedish-language RS available online as a pdf, and Google-translatable to unravel these mysteries and more besides. Sharktopus 18:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• It's a bit vague, a bit odd, and I like it. As nominator I can't OK it, of course, but I'll leave a note for Niagara. Drmies (talk) 03:29, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Still good. Very cryptic. I'm not sure "figure in" would work in this context, maybe "were involved in" makes more sense. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​ 03:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Taking Niagara's suggestion, use ALT3 above. Sharktopus 16:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

List of accolades received by The Young Victoria

• ... that costume designer Sandy Powell earned her third Academy Award for the 2009 film The Young Victoria?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 23:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Forest Shely Ruby2010 comment! 23:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Redstone Test Stand

• ... that the Redstone Test Stand (pictured) was built in Alabama by Wernher von Braun's rocketry team for just $25,000 out of concrete and salvaged materials?

5x expanded by Mattise135 (talk). Nominated by Dravecky (talk) at 10:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• All criteria met, interesting article. Medvedenko (talk) 15:15, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Pabasa (ritual)

• ... that the Pabasa is a chanting marathon practiced during Holy Week in the Philippines?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 04:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Nehru Setu.- AnakngAraw (talk) 04:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• All DYK criteria met. Interesting article. I've taken the liberty of tightening the (already short) hook. Hope that's OK. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:35, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. I am just providing ALT 1 below, wherein I added "(pictured)" in case it may pass with an image (above right). Without the image is fine with me, if that is the case also. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that the Pabasa (pictured) is a chanting marathon practiced during Holy Week in the Philippines? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• I made a smaller version of your image, cropped square and with contrast enhanced, to show more detail at 100x100.

Filipinos at long table performing ritual.

Sharktopus 20:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Gee, thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I hope this makes lead hook. - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:09, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Capnomancy

• ... that capnomancy was still practiced in New England as late as 2003?

• Reviewed: The Ride to Conquer Cancer ()

5x expanded by All Hail The Muffin (talk). Self nom at 21:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

There seems to be more references here than actual written material. Can this be expanded? Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

It's been 5x expanded and it has over 1500 characters. Not sure why it needs further expanding. All Hail The Muffin Nor does it taste nice... 10:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Pennywhistle modem

• ... that Lee Felsenstein designed the Pennywhistle modem to replace a commercial design used on Community Memory, the first bulletin board system?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed 195th (Airlanding) Field Ambulance, below.

SR Battle of Britain class 21C151 Winston Churchill

• ... that Winston Churchill's funeral train carried the headcode of a breakdown train?

Created by Iain Bell (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• Date, Length are good, AGF for offline source. --E♴(talk) 16:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

As a young train spotter in the 1960s, I remember seeing this loco in the Salisbury depot - I think I took some photos of it, but they are long since lost. I certainly remember the funeral train, and concur with what the hook says. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Just chipping in to say I loved this hook and had to go read the article. I predict this will get a lot of hits! Sharktopus 21:44, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Me too (three?). Great work. Ed  22:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• ARTICLE: Space em dashes should be unspaced (MoS). Are DYK article-links allowed to be section-links? It's a very odd reading experience to land in the middle of an article. HOOK: I didn't know what a headcode was; so the hook expresses an ironic situation? Maybe I'm being thick. Could be good. Sorry to be inconclusive. Tony (talk) 15:52, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

COMMENTS: 1. I have found a couple of online sources, including a contemporary account, and have added them as citations. 2. Spaced em-dashes have now been corrected. – Iain Bell (talk) 11:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Well done, no need for AGF tick any more, as hook facts ('V' on funeral train, 'V' as breakdown code) are now checkable via online references. Sharktopus 20:51, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

COMMENTS: Headcode? Breakdown train? These terms are idioms used in the UK and nowhere else. To this Canuck, the hook is confusing even after reading the articles (the actual answers to these questions are buried). The hook also avoids mentioning the V for Victory salute, which seems to be the whole point! Perhaps it's not as clever, but...

ALT: ... that Winston Churchill's funeral train used the reporting symbol "V", normally used only by railway cranes? ((unsigned suggestion, not sure whose))

• COMMENT: To this US native, the terms "headcode" and "breakdown train" were fine in the context of the hook when I first read it, although I had never seen either term before. That is, I figured "headcode" was some kind of coded display at the front of the train, and a "breakdown train" would probably be a broken-down train. And it made me look, as hooks are supposed to do. I confirmed this DYK with the original hook and consider it hookier than the ALT proposed. But as always, people making up Prep and Queue get to make their own determination. Sharktopus 13:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 1

Fokker FG-2

• ... that the Fokker FG-2 made the world's first passenger flight with a glider in 1922?

Created by Petebutt (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Lee Corner

• ... that Lee Corner in Alexandria, Virginia includes the homes of U.S. Revolutionary War Officer Light Horse Harry Lee, U.S. Attorney General Charles Lee, and Confederate General Robert E. Lee?

Created by Lbblac (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:54, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• The length and date are fine, but the hook statements need to be cited explicitly. (The citations in the article need cleanup in general, in a matter of fact.) — AJDS 19:32, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

BMW F650CS

• ... that the 2001 BMW F650CS (pictured) motorcycle's offbeat, "iMac-inspired" styling was meant to attract non-motorcyclists of the extreme sports generation?

• Reviewed: Denmark–Eritrea relations ()

5x expanded by Dennis Bratland (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Not this hook. Article is fine, but the ref says that the screen (only) is maybe imac inspired. Suggest you rephrase and represent Victuallers (talk) 07:07, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Did you notice that no fewer than three specific elements were cited which were directly compared with Apple iMacs of 2001: the translucent polycarbonate handles, the windscreen, and the body panel color choices?
  • Duke, Kevin (12 November 2002), "2002 BMW F650CS", MotorcycleUSA.com, retrieved 2011-07-01, The design is fresh and visually interesting, with links to contemporary industrial design. The most obvious example is the translucent polycarbonate rear luggage rails and the hand rails/luggage bridge at the rear of the "fuel tank," a material similar to that used on contemporary Apple computers.
  • Ash, Kevin (29 November 2001), "BMW's sweet bike of youth; BMW F650CS", The Telegraph, retrieved 2011-07-01, Cramped leg joints aside, comfort overall is very good, the small Apple iMac-inspired transparent screen deflecting wind up to shoulder level, allowing constant cruising well beyond British road speeds.
  • Allossery, Patrick (15 April 2002), "The element of risk: BMW is steering its sleek F650CS into the path of a new kind of first-time bike buyer: the unbranded, snowboarding, windsurfing, adrenalin-loving roughrider", National Post, Don Mills, Ontario, p. FP.12, For starters, the company has ripped a page from the strategy book of Apple Computer Inc. and is offering the F650CS in a choice of three youth-oriented colour schemes: azure blue metallic, golden orange metallic and beluga blue.

The articles that don't bring up Apple by name all generally agree that the marketing demographic the bike was aimed at was modeled after the stereotyipcal Apple buyer: young, urban, and attracted to consumer products with a strong sense of design (or overdesign if you like). They all mention this, and the two articles from the National Post go into great detail on the subject: Allosery above, and Booth, David (1 March 2002), "BMW builds a better 'thumper': Road test: 2002 BMW F650CS a serious bike, right down to the stereo", National Post, Don Mills, Ontario, p. DO.7. The DYK rules only require a single good source for the hook, but I believe I've about carpet bombed this hook. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Waggonfabrik Talbot

• ... that the Talent (pictured), a multiple unit passenger train in the rail system of Germany, Austria and Norway, was developed by Waggonfabrik Talbot in Aachen?

Created by Imgaril (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 20:35, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook all verified, although a more interesting hook would be ideal.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 11:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, Quincy Adams Shaw

• ... that Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, grandson of Quincy Adams Shaw and a member of an influential Boston Brahmin family, was co-inventor of the iron lung (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Jean Thurel ()

5x expanded by DiverDave (talk). Nominated by DiverDave (talk) at 20:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Jean Thurel

• ... that Jean Thurel (pictured) was a soldier in the Régiment de Touraine for over ninety years?

• Comment: The article syas that he joined at age 16, was a member for 92 years, and died at 107; presumably this means that he was in for the year he was 16, the year he was 17, etc., which makes 92 years overall.

Created by UltimaRatio (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 02:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date OK, hook supported by inline citation, references check out. Interesting article! I have taken the liberty of adding an image. This will generate much more interest in the article. DiverDave (talk) 20:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

William Van Wagoner

• ... that bicycle racing champion William Van Wagoner (pictured) founded a namesake automobile manufacturing company?

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 01:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• I started making some copyedits and will actually review after lunch. Drmies (talk) 17:29, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• I have made a ton of copyedits and more need to be done. Also, the reference for the hook (ref. #3 in the current version) is incomplete--there may be something wrong in the template. The actual source has no online link so I can't check that right now; perhaps there is an online link that is lost in the template. But honestly, I don't want to copyedit anymore. Author should look at correct comma usage ("place, state" is always followed by a comma, and so are dates in the US format; I corrected a couple of incorrect "however" punctuations; many things are italicized that shouldn't be). A proper scrubbing, and a check for that reference, is required. Drmies (talk) 20:57, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Do you mean the citation to The New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Automobiles? Besides the necessary indication of the article being cited (which, indeed, is quite important), there's no need for anything else in that citation, as far as I can see. But then, I am falling asleep (walked all over Terre Haute, Indiana today, getting photos of 50 different historic sites!), so I could perhaps be missing something that should be obvious. Nyttend (talk) 05:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• I don't have a page number but that is all, otherwise, think it is looking good. Nconwaymicelli (talk) 23:10, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• When I looked at it, note 3 looked like this: "David Burgess Wise publisher=. The New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Automobiles." It looks better now, but it really needs a page number. Drmies (talk) 19:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
• I have had to make more copyedits. I don't think that it is done. Drmies (talk) 02:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Chris Moorman

• ... that of Chris Moorman's twelve World Series of Poker in the money finishes, three have been in US$10,000 Championship events and five have been in six-handed events?

• Reviewed: James O. Rodgers, George D. Stillman, Joseph R. Swan, George B. Chadwick, Charles D. Rafferty, Jack Owsley, William F. Knox, John Field, and Art Howe

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 20:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

John Rowan (Kentucky)

• ... that, according to tradition, Stephen Collins Foster was inspired to write the ballad My Old Kentucky Home after a visit to Federal Hill, the mansion of Kentucky Senator John Rowan (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Jonathan Audy-Marchessault ()

5x expanded by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

National Churches Trust

• ... that since 2005 the National Churches Trust has distributed more than £9 million to over 1,000 churches in the UK?

• Reviewed: Pabasa (ritual)

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• I suggest you add a note that this trust is located in England; as I read this from America, something seems not quite right. Maybe Misplaced Pages has no problem with this -- this is the first time I've been involved with DYK -- but it also sounds a bit free-PR to me. You might be able to say the same about my nomination today, but when it comes to donations and do-gooding... it's a little more sensitive. Nice work on the article, though.--Jp07 (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Added "in the UK" to the hook. I don't understand the comments about "free-PR" and "do-gooding". The article is about a registered charity, and I have tried to write a factual account of its history, functions and finance-raising activities. It is in no way an advertisement any more than comparable articles on other charities (for example, see Historic Chapels Trust). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Well, understand that I come from a journalism background. Newspapers tend to avoid going out of their way to cover things that make notable people, i.e. politicians, or corporations/charities look good because the philosophy is that they ought to be paying for that recognition (i.e. in an advertisement) -- especially when this recognition comes on the front page of the newspaper (or in this case, Misplaced Pages). Recognizing the do-gooding of one person kind of requires you to recognize the good things that everyone else does, too, if you want to be fair, and that just kind of gets messy/impossible; failing to be fair leads to reader perceptions of bias. But like I said, that may not be something people worry about in this medium; I recognize that newspapers and Misplaced Pages are two different beasts. Not an accusation, just thoughts.--Jp07 (talk) 12:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Another thought: I'm not saying anything about this organization or its motives because I know nothing about it, but you find yourself feeling very guilty when it turns out that the motives of a charity are less than noble. This has happened to me before after writing a newspaper article about a charity. I later found out this charity had some questionable practices, and I felt like I assisted them in misleading people. So at least for newspapers, I feel like its best practice to avoid "free PR."--Jp07 (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I object strongly to the comments above. This nothing to do with an organisation with "less than noble" motives; it's about maintaining the physical structure of historic British buildings. Perhaps I should have said more about the people involved; please see this page. Yes there is a difference between writing for an encyclopedia and journalism (and I've done both). May I please have a proper review from a different editor for this suggestion.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I do not see what the problem is here. It is a simple statement of fact and helping preserve medieval churches is hardly at the sexy end of charity work. We cannot avoid giving any publicity at all to charities or commercial companies.--Charles (talk) 16:51, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

That's not a problem for me either. But there is something else: the article lacks secondary sources, completely. I really don't want to put an unreferenced tag on the article since I trust that Peter Vardy can remedy this, but until that has happened we should not send this on to the front page. Drmies (talk) 02:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I've added some material from a secondary source. Does that help? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes it does. Have you considered adding something from this collection? There's some interesting stuff in there on surveys they did (that those are cited helps towards objectivity also) and on individual things they did. I'd add it myself, but I'm a little scatter-brained today. Drmies (talk) 15:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I really do appreciate the trouble you've taken over this. I did do a Google search previously. The most useful material not already in the article is about THE SURVEY, which I decided not to include at present, as I had other articles to work on. If I had used it, though, I would have used the Trust's own site (which would not have helped the "problem"). OK newspaper reports might appear to make it more objective (?) but they are only repeating what is in a press release. In my experience a website like that of the Trust is more likely to be accurate than a newspaper article (or even Sky News!). The other Goggle hits seem mainly to be papers reporting local grants (which are a bit hit and miss) or that the royalty are going to go to a party. Getting this article to DYK is not a priority for me at present. If you would like to make it acceptable for DYK, please feel free, and make it a double-nom. Otherwise I suggest that the suggestion be withdrawn. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Long Gone (film)

• ... that the 1987 baseball film Long Gone starring William Petersen, has been described as, "three parts Bull Durham, two parts Slap Shot, add a dose of Bingo Long and a pinch of The Longest Yard"?

Created by Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 06:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable, but hook is too long and too distracting with all those rival movie links.

propose:

• ALT1: ... that the 1987 baseball film Long Gone, starring William Petersen, has been described as "the best baseball movie most of you never saw"? --Ohconfucius 14:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Just my opinion, but I still prefer my original hook. But I'm happy to go with the flow and majority of view. Also, the picture has dropped off, but is still refered to in both hooks. Spy007au (talk) 23:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

The hook has "(pictured)" but where is the picture? And is the picture freely usable? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

The article's only image is fair use, so it's unacceptable here. I've removed (pictured) from both hooks. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

The original hook is now less than 200 characters, including spaces, so it should be good to go. Again, just my opinion, the original hook is also catchier than ALT1. Spy007au (talk) 00:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Robert Beauchamp

• ... that American painter Robert Beauchamp originally attended Cranbrook Academy of Art for the love of a girl and to make money by learning pottery?

• Reviewed: Mitch Schock

Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable. However, sections named 'Notable exhibitions' and 'Notable collections' seem out of place: whilst true that those galleries and collections in themselves are notable, there's something wrong with listing them in this way – there's no mention of the theme and dates of exhibitions, nor the works which are in these respective collections; no sources. Just remove these sections and we're good to go. --Ohconfucius 14:01, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

You'll have to remove those from the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006! Never had anyone mention a problem until now. SarahStierch (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

"the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006" are not being evaluated for DYK, this one is. --Ohconfucius 16:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Yep, have to agree with Ohconfucius on this. It's been an issue at FAC, I believe, some time ago. Perhaps now is the time to update in this respect, and you might revisit the others when you do routine audits from time to time (necessary after a few years, anyway). HOOK: Suggestion, why not finish on "girl"? Punchier, more catchy? Tony (talk) 16:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 2

Robert Gould Shaw II

• ... that before she married Waldorf Astor, Lady Astor (pictured) was married to Robert Gould Shaw II, a cousin of Robert Gould Shaw?

• Reviewed: Goman ()

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the campus of Mount Ida College is situated on land that once was the estate of Robert Gould Shaw II, a cousin of Robert Gould Shaw?

Virgin and Child with Four Angels

• ... that the 16th century painting Virgin and Child with Four Angels by Gerard David was a modified copy of Jan van Eyck's 15th century painting Virgin with Child at a Fountain?

Created by Ceoil (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 13:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Beautiful! Length fine, hook AGF + shown pictured (date 3 July), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Aduston Hall

• ... that Aduston Hall is built like a mid-20th century California ranch house despite being a mid-19th century plantation house in Gainesville, Alabama?

Created by Altairisfar (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:50, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Peter Raw

• ... that Air Commodore Peter Raw had joined the Royal Australian Air Force after being rejected by the Royal Australian Navy?

Created by Nick-D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:41, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Tuttuki Bako

• ... that Tuttuki Bako players insert their fingers 60 mm (2.4 in) into an electronic device to render images of their fingers on an LCD screen?

Created by Thibbs (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:34, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Trigg Hound

• ... that after its founder died, the Trigg Hound became popular again because of a statement by famous big-game hunter Paul J. Rainey?

• ALT1:... that the ancestors of the Trigg Hound were considered unattractive by local fox hunters, but performed surprisingly well when hunting?

5x expanded by Anna (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Note: This is a bit of a tricky one, since the previous text was quite close to the source, just twiddled a bit (pun intended): diff and source (scroll to "Trigg Hound"). The author already had another article speedied for the same thing. It may not be close enough to count for the purposes of DYK, but I figured I'd give it a shot since it's not subtle at all. Anna 19:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Addendum: it wouldn't count as a 5x expansion if the previous text isn't considered copyright infringement, naturally. Neglected to mention that above -- oops. Anna 14:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Plaza of the Seven Temples

• ... that the main temple at the Plaza of the Seven Temples (pictured) in the Maya city of Tikal, in modern Guatemala, was decorated with a skull and crossbones?

• Reviewed: SS Lanthorn

Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 12:34, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date verified, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. —Bruce1ee 14:05, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Ian Oliver

• ... that former policeman Ian Oliver is the father of Craig Oliver, a special adviser in David Cameron's government?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 12:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Llanwrthw

• ... that the Living Willow Theatre, an open air theatre constructed of living willow trees, is located near the village of Llanwrthwl and occasionally holds outdoor performances of Shakespeare?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Martinevans123 (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Eagle Hotel (Waterford, Pennsylvania)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

No Walls

• ... that No Walls "hit a rather huge wall"?

Created by Shaneymike (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 05:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• This is a nice, catchy hook. And the date of creation checks out. However, I'm somewhat concerned that, as it presently stands, about half of the article consists of a very long block quote from a copyrighted blog site called "Introverted Loudmouth." I'm not sure whether the blog site is a reliable source and would appreciate input from someone more familiar with Wiki policy on blogs. Also, I think the block quote should be cut back and the article expanded with material that does not consist of copyrighted quotations, before it is featured on the main page. If I'm misunderstanding the policy on such extensive use of block quotes, someone should feel free to correct me. Cbl62 (talk) 07:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thx for reviewing :) The blockquote is not considered as article prose; accordingly, it is omitted by DYKcheck which then indicates a prose size of 1580. Size is good... I'm not sure about the blog site question, though. heh Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

My concern is not that the article doesn't meet the bare minimum requirement of 1500 characters. Rather, my concern is with copyright (using such a lengthy quote from a copyrighted article) and with the reliability of the particular blog as a source. Anyone familiar with the "Introverted Loudmouth" site? Is it reliable? Shouldn't the blockquote be trimmed? Is there a guideline on how long a quote from copyrighted material may be without stepping over the boundaries of "fair use"? Misplaced Pages:Non-free content doesn't specify a particular limit on block quotes from non-free sources, but this one (at 1650 characters) seems to push the limit. Cbl62 (talk) 21:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

The "Introverted Loudmouth" blog is the creation of Brian Walsby. According to Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources, self-published sources such as blogs "are largely not acceptable." On the other hand, "Self-published material may be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." Here, I searched Google news, Google news archive, Google books, and Google scholar, and found 0 hits in which a mainstream third-party publication has cited or discussed the "Introverted Loudmouth" blog. A handful of articles about Walsby seem to be principally about his work as a cartoonist/drummer rather than a music critic. I'm inclined to think the source in this case does not meet reliability standards. Cbl62 (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that a No Walls show was described as “a brilliant collision of sinewy punk attack, angular-jazz maneuvers and catchy art-pop songwriting”? -- Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:27, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Voyeurs & Savages

• ... that the novel Voyeurs & Savages features Peeping Toms from the Philippines and the United States?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Svið.- AnakngAraw (talk) 01:54, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Bahamas Institute of Chartered Accountants, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Guyana, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Jamaica, Institute of Chartered Accountants of the Caribbean, Cayman Islands Society of Professional Accountants

• ... that BICA, ICAG and ICAJ are ICAC members, but CISPA is not?

• Reviewed: Ujjani Dam ()
• Comment: I think this one only gets used if there is a real shortage of other possibilities :~)

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: You may want to replace those acronyms with the full name. Being over 200 chars is allowed for multiple hooks. The acronyms just make it even more confusing. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

If the names are spelled out nobody is going to click on any of them. But if they are not spelled out and readers do click on them, they may be unhappy about what they find. Although technically it qualifies, I think this nomination should be quietly ignored unless there is a desperate need to fill a queue. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:16, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Red or Black?

• ... that Simon Cowell (pictured) conceived the idea for Red or Black?, the most expensive game show ever made?

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 22:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Monarchism in Bavaria after 1918. Miyagawa (talk) 23:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Article length and date ok, hook length and hook fact verified. Sasata (talk) 05:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Bushy-tailed olingo

• ... that the bushy-tailed olingo (pictured) can produce a foul-smelling liquid from its anal scent glands when alarmed, despite being more closely related to a raccoon than a skunk?

• Reviewed: Micronecta scholtzi ()

5x expanded by Anaxial (talk). Self nom at 21:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go - well-written, nice illustrations and good refs. Prioryman (talk) 22:47, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Eagle Hotel (Waterford, Pennsylvania)

• ... that unlike most hotels from the same period, the Eagle Hotel (pictured) in Waterford, Pennsylvania has quoining?

• Reviewed: Botaniska trädgården (Uppsala) ()

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Good job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Structures built by animals

• ... that the Long-tailed Tit (pictured) uses moss and the silk of spider egg cocoons as a natural form of velcro for holding together its nest?

• Reviewed: Katrina Dunn

Created by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date, hook, refs seem ok. Good to go once the stub template is removed and talk page rating updated. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Removed stub template & upgraded WikiProject banner assessment to C class as desired. Thank you. Anything else, please. AshLin (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

"(pictured)" now in italics per DYK rules. Not sure about the image, though, not too illustrative at this resolution. GregorB (talk) 19:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Went to great trouble to locate this image, find someone who graciously changed his license so that it could be loaded to Commons. Other images of Long-tailed Tit on Commons, except for this and a similar one, are available but not of a bird on the nest. May kindly consider the hook but without the image as I am unable in India to get another image of this European bird on nest. AshLin (talk) 02:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Good to go as far as I am concerned, the pic is probably not going to make it to the main page, I agree it is not very clear as a thumb :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Katrina Dunn

• ... that producer Katrina Dunn of Vancouver was awarded the Golden Bra in 2010?

Created by Agent 86 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• New and of adequate size.
• Fact verified and correctly cited. Adequate citation, no red links. Meets criteria of BLP.
• Not a self-nomination hence no review required of author/nominator.
• AshLin (talk) 10:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Sam Stein

• ... that Sam Stein won his first World Series of Poker bracelet at the 2011 World Series of Poker but his largest single-event prize was a $1 million result at the 2011 PokerStars Caribbean Adventure?

• Reviewed: James O. Rodgers, George D. Stillman, Joseph R. Swan, George B. Chadwick, Charles D. Rafferty, Jack Owsley, William F. Knox, John Field, and Art Howe

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Demolition of Dhul Khalasa

• ... that even after Muhammad ordered the Demolition of the Pagan idol, Dhul Khalasa, the idol was resurrected and worshipped in the region until 1815, when members of the Wahabbi movement demolished it with gunfire?

Created by User:Misconceptions2 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Linked Wahhabi for you. I doubt many will know what that is. Linked Muhammad too. Manxruler (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, greatly appreciated. if anyone else wants to make changes feel free, or kindly give your thoughts on alternate hooks--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Please feel free to propose any changes--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Portia labiata

• ... that the jumping spider Portia labiata has populations in different regions, but only one knows how catch a spitting spider safely and how to work out the best way to cross a small lagoon?
• ALT1 = ... that females of the jumping spider Portia labiata use silk draglines as territory marks, and use these to avoid females of higher fighting ability and spend more time around less powerful fighters?

• Reviewed: Demolition of Masjid al-Dirar ()

5x expanded by Philcha (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Nominated article linked and bolded in hooks. - Dravecky (talk) 11:34, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 3

H. S. Wong

• ... that the Japanese government once put a bounty on the head of photojournalist H. S. Wong?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 03:58, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Haigh Hall

• ... that Haigh Hall, which replaced the ancient manor house of Haigh, was built between 1827 and 1840 by James Lindsay, 7th Earl of Balcarres?

5x expanded by User:J3Mrs (User talk:J3Mrs. Nominated by User:Martinevans123 (User talk:Martinevans123) at 20:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Livingstone Museum

• ... that the Livingstone Museum (pictured) is the oldest and largest museum in Zambia, opened in 1934?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 14:43, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Added an img.--Nvvchar. 23:31, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Friends with Kids.--Nvvchar. 00:53, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Meets DYK specs, hook fine, thanks for expanding and submitting this article in a very under-described area. Sharktopus 12:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Quiet Birdmen

• ... that the Quiet Birdmen got their name from being noisy?

• Reviewed: Pon de Floor ()

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

The article seems fine, but I don't think the hook is effective. At least refer to the Birdmen as a secret aviation society. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

How about this? ALT1: ... that the secret airmen's club known as the Quiet Birdmen got their name from being noisy? Binksternet (talk) 02:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I quite honestly think you should go in the other direction. Make the hook shorter, like perhaps ALT2 "... that the Quiet Birdmen were noisy?". Quiet people being noisy is a non-sequitur and would draw people, especially if placed as the last hook. Adding too much information would just spoil it. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:46, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Heh heh... I like it. I was already in favor of a short hook, and yours is even more so. Binksternet (talk) 18:45, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Length checks out, referencing is quite beautiful, and the hook fact checks out. I prefer either the original or ALT2, but the choice of hook is up to whomever builds the preps. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

God Makes the Rivers to Flow

• ... that Easwaran's God Makes the Rivers to Flow claims that we are like a sculptor releasing a trapped elephant when we seek God- or Self-realization by meditating on a sacred text?

• Reviewed: West Ham United F.C. supporters ()

• Note: hook is verifiable online through reference #30 (link duplicated here) -- Presearch (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC) Created by Presearch (talk). Self nom at 16:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good, ready to go. History2007 (talk) 18:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Burg Lockenhaus

• ... that Elizabeth Báthory, known as the "Blood Countess" because of her reign of terror, torturing, and murdering hundreds of women, once resided at the Burg Lockenhaus (pictured)?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Yak butter.--Nvvchar. 22:30, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

appr, nice pic BarkingMoon (talk) 22:32, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Church of St. Nikolaus, Lockenhaus

• ... that the Austrian Church of St. Nikolaus, Lockenhaus includes an organ with 2400 pipes, as well as an unusual black Madonna on the altar?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Horsham Unitarian Church

My Sad Republic

• ... that My Sad Republic is a novel about a Filipino war hero and mystic who proclaimed himself as the Pope of a Philippine island?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Tuber oregonensis (Oregon white truffle).- AnakngAraw (talk) 21:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Suggested alt hooks:

ALT1: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a general and landowner who wants a Philippine island to become a territory of the United States?

ALT2: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a Filipino war hero and mystic who wants to return the Philippines to its pre-colonial status?

ALT3: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a Spanish priest was inserting a sacred host into the lips of a female's sex organ?

Hope any of the above will work. - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT4: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a friar was inserting a sacramental bread into a female's sex organ? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:50, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT5: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a dash of "friar erotica" in it? - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• I think ALT5 will get you a lot of clicks. Funny, we have an article about nunsploitation, why nothing for friar erotica? Sharktopus 18:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Lockenhaus Chamber Music Festival

• ... that according to Gidon Kremer, hailed as "the world`s greatest violinist", the Lockenhaus Chamber Music Festival in Austria philosophically resembles the Marlboro Music Festival in Vermont, US?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Alex McDonald (prospector)

• Comment: I would prefer the hook without the addition about Kremer, which is an offline source of 1986 and sounds POV. The link can tell better who he is (for those who really don't know him), perhaps just add "violinist" before the name, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that according to violinist Gidon Kremer, the Lockenhaus Chamber Music Festival in Austria philosophically resembles the Marlboro Music Festival in Vermont, US? --Rosiestep (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• appr alt1 BarkingMoon (talk) 22:30, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Victoria Fyodorova, Jackson Tate, Zoya Fyodorova, The Admiral's Daughter

• ... that the 1979 book The Admiral's Daughter relates the story of the "love child" of an American Navy captain who was expelled from Russia and a Soviet film actress who spent 8 years in Siberia, both on orders of Joseph Stalin?

Created by Frank (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Carl Legien diff  Frank  |  talk  19:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Flagmen of Lowestoft

• ... that Sir Peter Lely's series of portraits, the Flagmen of Lowestoft (example pictured), commemorates English naval commanders who fought at the Battle of Lowestoft in 1665?

• Reviewed: Battle of Leitzersdorf ()

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Ref for hook checks out. Length seems fine despite quotes and the table of paintings. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Carl Legien

• ... that Carl Legien organized a massive general strike in Germany to counter the right-wing Kapp-Putsch of March 1920?

• Reviewed: Mietek Pemper ()

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Length and hook look good. Nice article!  Frank  |  talk  19:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Mona Vale, Christchurch

• ... that Mona Vale (pictured) in Christchurch, New Zealand, has been a public park since the 1960s, following the threat of subdivision of the property and demolition of the homestead?

• Reviewed: The Cámpora (diff)
• Comment: The review is from a wee while back; I haven't nominated anything for some time.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length check out. Photo appears to qualify with Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license. The hook fact appears to be generally supported by the sources. The only quibble is that the source says the property was acquired in 1969 with the intent to operate it is a public park, and doesn't say that it actually opened the site as a public park that same year (as opposed to 1970 or thereafter). To ensure accuracy, maybe consider changing "has been a public since the 1960s ..." to "was turned into a public park ..."? Cbl62 (talk) 07:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review. See ALT1 below, which takes the suggestion into account, but also keeps the '1960s' bit, as the date of the threat is well supported by the sources. Just a comment on the photo licence - it's uploaded using the flickr bot and the bot is set up to only upload when the photo has the correct licence settings. Schwede66 04:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Mona Vale (pictured) in Christchurch, New Zealand, was turned into a public park, following the threat of subdivision of the property and demolition of the homestead in the 1960s?

Evertyhing looks fine now, including the license issue on the photo. Cbl62 (talk) 00:14, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Tuber oregonensis

• ... that the annual Oregon Truffle Festival is held in late January to coincide with the maturing of the Oregon white truffle (pictured)?

• ALT1:… the Oregon white truffle (pictured) has been successfully cultivated in Christmas tree farms?
• Reviewed: Red or Black? ()

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I am unable to find a sentence in article mentioning the original hook. But I am accepting offline source for alt hook 1 in good faith. Length of article is fine, as well as creation date. The image is from commons. Perhaps a hook about how the fungus is beneficial to squirrels will be more interesting? - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I have included that bit for the original hook in the article text now. Here's the alt you suggested: Sasata (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT2: … the Oregon white truffle (pictured) is a major component of the diet of Northern flying squirrels?

I still couldn't find the ref/citation for the original hook. But I'd go with ALT2 , which is a cited hook. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Matthew Jarvis (poker player)

• ... that Matthew Jarvis became the third November Niner to earn a World Series of Poker bracelet in the following year?

• Reviewed: James O. Rodgers, George D. Stillman, Joseph R. Swan, George B. Chadwick, Charles D. Rafferty, Jack Owsley, William F. Knox, John Field, and Art Howe

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Wicklow Way

• ... that the Wicklow Way was originally proposed by J. B. Malone in a series of articles in the Evening Herald newspaper?

5x expanded by Joe King (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• 5x expansion verified. Clearly written with extensive citations. Hybernator (talk) 01:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 4

Harley-Davidson XR-750

• ... that Evel Knievel's preferred stunt bike, the Harley-Davidson XR-750 (pictured), is the winningest motorcycle in the history of AMA Racing?

• Comment:  Doing... review

Created by Dennis Bratland (talk), Docob5 (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Messiah structure

• ... that Handel's oratorio Messiah is structured in three parts, aspects of the Christian Messiah entirely in Bible verses drawn mostly from the Old Testament?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed #Virgin and Child with Four Angels - comment: the article (supporting the Main article Messiah) consists mainly of tables, based on the scores and Wikisource, the text is mainly a summary of the tables, therefore at present only one inline citation, but that is a commented collection of sources. Could be detailed, if needed. - The pic is the title of the autograph, I guess it's not necessary to say pictured?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Otterburn Tower, Otterburn Hall

• ... that a door at Otterburn Tower still contains the initials of Jacobite rebel Mad Jack Hall, while nearby Otterburn Hall's land was recompense to the ancestor of Lord Douglas who died at the Battle of Otterburn?

• Comment: The hall article was created July 4, while the tower article was created July 5. While the hook is 210 characters, it contains 2 noms.

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Thomas Thynne (died 1639) and Sotir Kolea

Arreton Manor

• ... that Arreton Manor (pictured) on the Isle of Wight can be traced to 872 AD to the time of King Alfred the Great and was owned by William the Conqueror, as mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Added an img

Classical compass winds

• ... that today you only really need to remember four names (North, East, South, West) to get around, but ancient Greeks and Romans had to memorize 12 different wind names to orient themselves....?

Created by Walrasiad (talk). Self nom at 12:20, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date good, image is public domain, referencing is thorough, hook is ready to go. According to the rules at WP:WIADYK, you must review another DYK nomination before yours can be approved. Binksternet (talk) 15:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

OK. I reviewed Bwana Mkubwa. Also, is it possible to propose a different DYK pic for this? I think the first choice may be a little too abstract. Perhaps something a little more Graeco-Roman, like Vatican amenoscope? (Txt: Ancient Roman marble amenoscope, with 12 winds inscribed in both Greek and Latin) Walrasiad (talk) 13:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Entry is ready to go. The image can be either File:Greek 12-wind rose.jpg or File:Vatican anemoscope.jpg. Binksternet (talk) 14:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Bwana Mkubwa

• ... that thousands of Polish refugees who were fleeing Nazi and Russian forces during WWII found asylum in Bwana Mkubwa, a mining settlement in Zambia?

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Anraku-ji (Ueda)

Date, length, references (but one) ok. My quibble is with the 18,000 refugees number, which is cited from a website rather that a WP: Reliable Source. The number seems a bit excessive and I can't seem to find other sources that back it up. (I have made some more comments on it in that article's talk page). Since it relates to the hook, that number should be verified or corrected before its good to go. Walrasiad (talk) 13:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the mining settlement of Bwana Mkubwa received thousands of Polish refugees that arrived in Northern Rhodesia during World War II? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Anraku-ji (Ueda)

• ... that the only extant octagonal pagoda in Japan (pictured) is located at Anraku-ji?

• Reviewed: List of colonial buildings and structures in Jakarta

Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Sotir Kolea

• ... that during Sotir Kolea's term as director of the National Library of Albania the amount of its volumes was tripled?

• Reviewed: National Poverty Eradication Programme ()

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 17:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date verified. Hook's foreign language ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:58, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

First Lady of the World

• ... that the novel First Lady of the World is about the first female Secretary-General of the United Nations?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Flagmen of Lowestoft.- AnakngAraw (talk) 22:45, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the novel First Lady of the World is about the first woman to become Secretary-General of the United Nations? - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:57, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
• ALT2: ... that the First Lady of the World climaxes when the Millenium Moment is celebrated worldwide in 2000, as humanity enters a New Age? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Józef Tusk

• ... that the figure of Józef Tusk, grandfather of the future President of Poland, Donald Tusk, was in the center of the "Wehrmacht affair" of the Polish presidential election, 2005?

• Reviewed: The Good-Morrow

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Nice job. AGF on references in Polish. --Jsayre64 (talk) 21:50, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Philip Showalter Hench, Edward Calvin Kendall

• ... that Philip Hench and Edward Kendall are the only two Nobel Prize winners affiliated with Mayo Clinic?

• Reviewed: Like a Prayer (song)

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Gray-crowned Rosy Finch

• ... that the Gray-crowned Rosy Finch may breed at a higher altitude than any other breeding bird in North America?

Created/expanded by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded (984-5383) BarkingMoon (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

reviewed: Jeff Mellinger BarkingMoon (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

All checks out, and no problem with using image. Moonraker (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135

• ... that in the opening chorus of Bach's cantata Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135, the bass sings the cantus firmus of a famous chorale melody?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: #Thomas Ford Chipp, Imatong Mountains, cantata for next Sunday, to appear between Saturday and the Friday after, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
• added a source, trying to simplify:

ALT1:... that bass voice and trombone carry the cantus firmus of a famous chorale melody in the opening chorus of Bach's cantata Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Characteristic, but way too long: "This is a good example; scrupulously shaped and crafted, ranging over nearly three octaves and carried forward through jagged shapes whilst radiating an unprecedented vigour and all the time reflecting the imagery of the text." - the music is in the source, recommended. We might also express somehow that the cantata is #4 of a sequence of four cantatas in about two weeks, with the cantus firmus first in the soprano (for 11 June 1724), then in the alto (for 18 June), then in the tenor (for 24 June), now in the bass (for 25 June), - but I wouldn't know how. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

An Embarrassment of Riches

• ... that the author of An Embarrassment of Riches reimagined the Philippines as an island instead of an archipelago?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Marimba Ani.- AnakngAraw (talk) 15:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Introduction of the Fußball-Bundesliga

• ... that, while the first official suggestion of a nationwide association football league in Germany was made in 1932, it was not introduced until 1963?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Three Emperors Dinner (right below). Calistemon (talk) 15:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Suggest changing also to something like while and intruduced to introduced Kindly Calmer Waters 19:27, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Done, thanks for the hint. Calistemon (talk) 01:06, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Jeff Mellinger

• ... that when Jeff Mellinger, the last active-duty draftee in the U.S. Army from the Vietnam War era, received his draft papers, he thought that they were written to him by then-President Richard Nixon?

• Reviewed: diff

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:12, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• BarkingMoon (talk) 11:54, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

added comma after era, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Burmese–Siamese War (1765–1767)

• ... that the Burmese–Siamese War (1765–1767) ended the four-century-old Ayutthaya Kingdom in 1767 but the Burmese were forced to withdraw within the year of their victory by the Chinese invasions of Burma?

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 01:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Wicklow Way. Hybernator (talk) 01:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• It's good, but the end of the kingdom should be cited as well. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:12, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Just updated with additional citations in the lead. Please review again. Hybernator (talk) 04:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

The Good-Morrow

• ... that John Donne's poem "The Good-Morrow" references seven sleeping children, cordiform maps and Paul the Apostle? Ironholds (talk) 01:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

  Reviewed Loaded Questions (game).

• Almost good to go, one minor issue: the hook pipes ] but the article does not, never using "Saint Paul of Tarsus". This could be confusing, please remove the pipe from the hook or add it to the article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed. Thanks for reviewing, Piotrus. Ironholds (talk) 20:40, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Siege of Wiener Neustadt

• ... that the Siege of Wiener Neustadt resulted in the occupation of the city by the Black Army of Hungary and marked the end of the Austro-Hungarian War, which meant the annexation of the western lands of Lower Austria, Styria and Carinthia to the Kingdom of Hungary?

Created by Lajbi (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 5

Punchiná Dam

• ... that the Punchiná Dam is part of the largest power station in Colombia?

• Reviewed: Ramsdell Hall

Created/self-nom--NortyNort (Holla) 00:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go, although I de-linked "Columbia" in the hook. Apterygial 08:09, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Andreas Samuel Krebs

• ... that during the Swedish campaign against Norway in 1814 commander Andreas Samuel Krebs successfully led his troops to victory both in the Battle of Lier and in the Battle of Matrand?

Created by Napoleon91 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 18:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Verified foreign language source through Google translate. EricSerge (talk) 10:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Tremella encephala, Stereum sanguinolentum

• ... that although the fungus Tremella encephala (pictured) was officially described in 1801, it was not known until 160 years later that its hard central core is actually the remains of another fungus?

• Reviewed: Asterotrygon ()

Created by RunningClam (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 16:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Everything checks out. The hook a little clunky... how about:

• ALT1: ... that although the fungus Tremella encephala (pictured) was officially described in 1801, it was not known until 1961 that its central core is actually the remains of its host Stereum sanguinolentum? Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Yeah, that's better. But if the second fungus is gonna be named, it would be a shame not to work up that stub... please check back in a couple days! Sasata (talk) 03:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Ok, second article now expanded sufficiently for DYK (I'll continue working on it though). Sasata (talk) 04:42, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Going with ALT1. Double article hook verified; first article is new with prose at 2003, second article 5x expanded—both confirmed per DYKcheck. Articles ready, date confirmed, img is good! Rcej (Robert) – talk 05:47, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

On Becoming Baby Wise

• ... that the parenting book On Becoming Baby Wise tells parents to put their infant down to sleep while he is awake?

• Reviewed: Classical compass winds ()
• Comment: DYK check returns a negative for 5x expansion, but this article is currently at 9952 characters of readable prose, expanded from 1743 characters as it stood on June 16. Five times 1743 is 8715, so clearly 9952 is beyond 5x. There were times in the past, for instance in February 2008, that the article was as large 36,183 characters, but those versions were copyright violations, text dumps of online articles, full of POV attacks, POV promotion, BLP concerns and unsupported statements. Since May 2008, the article has never been above 1830 characters. The current version is over 5x expansion and what I consider a fair representation of the topic.

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 22:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

World War Z (film)

• ... that Brad Pitt's Plan B Entertainment beat Leonardo DiCaprio's production company in a bidding war for the rights to produce World War Z, an upcoming post-apocalyptic horror film?

• Reviewed: Waggonfabrik Talbot

Created by TriiipleThreat (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad

• ... that the main line of the Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad was damaged by three major storms in northwestern Oregon and was at last abandoned after the third storm because repairs cost nearly $60 million?

• Reviewed: Pete Gray (activist) ()

Created by Jsayre64 (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Note: By the way, this tool counted 2,321 characters in the article's prose, so the length should be good. Jsayre64 (talk) 00:07, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that the main line of the Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad was damaged by three storms in northwestern Oregon and was at last abandoned after the third storm because repairs cost nearly $60 million?

The removal of major is to ensure that the hook doesn't exceed 200 characters. --Jsayre64 (talk) 17:06, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Britannia Coco-nut Dancers ‎

• ... that the Britannia Coco-nut Dancers bang their nuts together each Easter in Bacup?

Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• New. Length just reaching the required limit as checked by DYKCheck javascript. Adequately referenced. Assuming good faith on offline references. Available online refs indicate notability and genuineness.

• Please provide an inline citation to the hook fact, i.e.the exact line containing the fact about nuts being banged together, i.e. "These are tapped together like castanets as a percussive accompaniment to the dance." AshLin (talk) 04:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for reviewing. I have expanded on the banging of the nuts, adding a citation with quote. Warden (talk) 06:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• AshLin (talk) 07:20, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: The Fall of the City

Wayne Christian

• ... that Texas State Rep. Wayne Christian has worked on issues relating to the water level of Toledo Bend Reservoir on the Texas/Louisiana boundary?

ALT ... that Texas State Rep. Wayne Christian obtained passage of an amendment in 2009 which allowed him to rebuild his own beachfront property damaged by Hurricane Ike?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Platanthera holochila

Fay Ajzenberg-Selove

• ... that Fay Ajzenberg-Selove (pictured) had to fight a discrimination case against the University of Pennsylvania to be hired as a tenured professor of physics?

Created/expanded by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date ok, but the sentences containing the info in the hook aren't referenced. Number 57 21:09, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

With the exception of the first sentence about Haverford College, that entire paragraph is about the discrimination case and all of it is drawn from the two citations at the end of the paragraph. The hook is a summary of that paragraph and I'm not sure how to address this issue other than by citing each sentence in that paragraph with the same two citations, as I have done. Gamaliel (talk) 21:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Now good to go. Number 57 21:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Gamaliel (talk) 21:43, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Schooner Hotel

Robert W. Glover

• ... that the Arkansas State Rep. Robert W. Glover of Sheridan introduced the resolution in 1909 which led to the establishment of the future Arkansas State University in Jonesboro?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Quiet Birdmen

Verified. -IceCreamAntisocial (talk) 00:23, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

The Teddy Bear Master

• ... that the independently-produced 2006 U.S. film The Teddy Bear Master was the subject of two separate lawsuits?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• All looks nice and ready to go! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

List of colonial buildings and structures in Jakarta

• ... that the colonial city of Batavia (today Jakarta) was founded after the previous city, governed by the Sultanate of Banten, was completely eradicated by the Dutch colonists?

Created by Rochelimit (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Not sufficiently new or expanded. This revision from June 29 is not much shorter than the present one. bamse (talk) 21:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC) Sorry, I missed that it was moved from user space. Will do a proper review in a moment. bamse (talk) 23:03, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Please format the bare link references properly and add an inline citation to the hook fact. The intro in "Colonialism - Late 18th century to 1870" could do with a few more references. In the hook you have "Batavia" while in the text as far as I can see it says "Jayakarta". This needs to be made clearer/fixed. Not essential for DYK, but I hope that you will fill those empty cells in the tables. bamse (talk) 23:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing the "moving" part. Batavia, Jayakarta, and Sunda Kelapa were Jakarta's name in the past. when Jayakarta was destroyed, the Dutch built a new walled city and named it Batavia. Not so many enthusiast of Jakarta's history know the fact that there are earlier landmark structures before the creation of Batavia, so that's why I put the list in the DYK. It's true though that the DYK is not really essential, maybe there's a better hook for the article?

Placed inline citations in the hook's main sentence, done. Extra citations in the "Colonialism - Late 18th century to 1870" done. Link formatting will be fixed gradually, will try to fix this by this friday. The empty cells are still unknown for now. With its exposure in the DYK, I hope people will fill this gradually. This is actually the main reason why I put this in DYK.--Rochelimit (talk) 05:36, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Could you add a page number (or range) to the hook citation? Distinction between Jayakarta/Batavia is now clear in the text and references in section 2 are fine. PS: By, "not essential" I only meant that a DYK does not need to be complete, but since it is an interesting article, I wanted to express my hope to see it complete later. bamse (talk) 13:02, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I just added one new link besides one of the dead link (I see ther's 20 dead links in total). Indonesian government website aren't very reliable, very often links are dead, reappeared, or even moved to a new address. I'm not really keen to replace these dead links though, I keep thinking maybe in the future the link would reappear. The best solution is to replace these dead links with references from books.google, but that takes time. For now I'm planning to do the obvious: replacing these link with links from . As I were saying before, I hope I can finish everything you told me to by Friday.--Rochelimit (talk) 05:55, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Will check the page range, the book is in my house, will be home after about 6 hours.--Rochelimit (talk) 05:55, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

All fine now and ready to go. bamse (talk) 11:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

UAAP Season 74 basketball tournaments

• ... that Bobby Parks' son chose Manila's National University over Georgia Tech but was almost not cleared to play in the 74th UAAP basketball season due to eligibility issues?

• Comment: Suggested day: July 10

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Platanthera holochila.

Pierrepont School, Frensham

• ... that Pierrepont School, Frensham, occupied a listed English country house designed by Richard Norman Shaw?

• Reviewed: Gray-crowned Rosy Finch (diff)

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date of creation and sourcing checked out OK. The length (about 1,800 characters without block quote) is also adequate. Cbl62 (talk) 03:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Pete Gray (activist)

• ... that environmental activist Pete Gray initiated Australia's first legal action to restrict a coal-fired power station's greenhouse gas emissions, shortly before making headlines by publicly throwing his shoes at former Prime Minister John Howard?

• Reviewed: Heydar Aliyev Foundation ()

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Alternative hook: ... that environmental activist Pete Gray, who died of cancer six months after publicly throwing his shoes at former Prime Minister John Howard, obtained that his shoes be auctioned for the Red Cross? Aridd (talk) 17:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good. Nice job. --Jsayre64 (talk) 23:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• I think this hook can be made much more attractive by focusing only on the shoe-throwing. The proposed ALT above is grammatically incorrect, with "obtained" in that context.

Proposed ALT: ... that environmental activist Pete Gray once threw his shoes at former Australian Prime Minister John Howard? Canada Hky (talk) 11:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I think it's a bit of a shame to focus solely on the shoe-throwing... My idea was to have a hook connecting that incident with something else. Many Australians, for instance, probably remember the shoe incident. What they may not know is that Gray had, prior to that, initiated a notable court case, or that he got his "famous" shoes to be put up for auction upon his death. Aridd (talk) 15:06, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I think a "hook" should be designed to catch people's attention and get them to click through to the article, rather than summarizing the topic. It allows people to get the information from reading the article, rather than trying to cram disparate facts into a single sentence. As someone who has never heard of this person - I'll click a link to see who the person is who threw the shoes - I don't care about a lawsuit filed by an environmentalist. Not all hooks can be made "interesting", but I don't think we should take the interesting ones and make them less so. Also - the hooks you proposed don't connect the incident to something else, they just cram info in, and dilute the focus. Canada Hky (talk) 23:16, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. There have been several shoe-throwers in recent years. I think what makes Gray interesting is that it's not the sole event that defines him. To me, your shortened hook makes him sound less interesting, and would give me somewhat less motivation to click on the link. But I'll go without whatever a majority of editors think is a better hook. (Incidentally, you forgot the word "former" in your abridged hook. That has to go in, or the sentence would be incorrect.) Aridd (talk) 16:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Inserted "former". I would wager that there have been more lawsuits filed by environmentalists, attempts at charity auctions or cancer deaths than there have been shoe throwers. I can think of the guy who threw a shoe at Bush, and this guy - who I hadn't heard of until I read the DYK. Canada Hky (talk) 23:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 6

Selman Riza

• ... that Selman Riza's 1952 work on Serbo-Croatian grammar is regarded as a work of contrastive analysis, although the theory was formulated five years later by Robert Lado?

• Reviewed: Constituencies for French residents overseas ()

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I added the word "grammar" which appeared to be missing from the hook. This mirrors what the article says. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Ikotos County

• ... that automatic AK-47 rifles were used in 42% of killings in Ikotos County in 2009?

• Reviewed: Great Budbridge Manor ()

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Shammi Narang

• ... that the man behind the voice with a baritone of the courteous 'Mind the gap' announcements is Shammi Narang?

Created by MorelMWilliam (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Metro (diff) _morelMW 14:47, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I've made a few small edits to the article for clarification. The article also raises the following questions:

• Section "Early life": What is Escorts? It may be obvious to an Indian reader, but I've never heard of it. It needs to be made clear within the article.
• Same section: Where did he do his postgrad? (Not absolutely essential, but it would be good to know.)

Most important of all, the hook needs to make it clear that you're referring to the Delhi metro. I suggest:

... that the man behind the courteous baritone 'Mind the gap' announcements in the Delhi Metro is Shammi Narang?

Other than that, good work! The date and length are fine, the subject is clearly notable, and the information from the hook is backed up by the source. Aridd (talk) 16:57, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I tried to look up Escorts, but there was no info on it, and hence one can only infer that it hired stunt riders. Also, there is no mention of the place he did his post graduation in any of the sources.

I chose not to include Delhi Metro in the hook as it would be more catchy without it. _morelMW 18:05, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

All right; never mind about his postgrad. I'm not convinced by this diff, though. Escorts may be something a lot more general, for all we know. I would recommend removing it from the article completely; it's not informative if it merely leaves the reader confused. Likewise, the mention of the Delhi Metro really does need to be in the hook - otherwise the hook is confusing, or even misleading. Aridd (talk) 18:27, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

The articles about him describe him as someone who switched from engineering to stunt riding and then to voice acting. So I think Escorts should be there. I have changed the page to its earlier version. I have contacted the person himself for his picture, so lets see if he provides any info on his post graduation and escorts. Talking about the hook, without Delhi Metro it would be more catchy, banking on, yes, its being misleading, leaving the readers to assume what is more popular with Mind the gap. _morelMW 01:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

What about this hook - ... that the male voice with a baritone of the courteous 'Mind the gap' announcements in the Metro is Shammi Narang's?_morelMW 05:42, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but a hook shouldn't be confusing, and if you don't specify where the announcements are made, it is confusing. I would suggest "the man behind the courteous baritone" rather than "the male voice with a baritone of the courteous" because it flows more easily, but that's not too important; fundamentally the major issue is that the location needs to be visible in the hook. Aridd (talk) 08:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It is not necessary that a hook should summarise the whole thing. A hook serves only to catch the readers' attention enough to make them click on it. It is not confusing, but rather plays on the expectations that the readers might form reading Mind the gap. And the new version that I suggested does have Metro announcements in it._morelMW 09:58, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but it doesn't say which metro. And "Mind the gap" is not specific to Delhi; rather, it might lead people to assume London by default. It's not just confusing; it's actually misleading, because it may suggest that Narang is behind these announcements in most if not all metros in the world. (Let me put it another way: It's as if you wrote a hook saying that some fairly unknown person "became Prime Minister" in a particular year, but without specifying the country in which he or she became PM. That would obviously not be a valid hook.) A DYK hook is supposed to be informative in itself (including for readers who choose not to click for more), not misleading. Adding the word "Delhi" is a simple way of removing the confusion. I see it as necessary, for the hook to be acceptable, and I don't see any good reason not to include it. It's just one word; it's not as though it would make the hook excessively heavy. Aridd (talk) 11:15, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

The purpose of a hook is to make the reader click the link for more info, rather than being sufficient pieces of info by themselves. The analogy you are trying to draw here wouldn't hold as Prime Minister by itself would be confusing owing to its broader scope, while 'mind the gap' in this hook would only make readers expect London Metro. As I said before, this hook only plays on the readers' expectations. It is not the hook becoming excessively heavy, but the word Delhi in it would be too much information for a hook. _morelMW 11:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It would definitely and categorically not be "too much information". And the purpose of a DYK is to be informative in itself, as well as to encourage readers to click for more information. If you are "making readers expect London Metro", then you are misleading them with your hook, as well as confusing them with a hook that is not sufficient in itself in terms of providing a basic piece of information. I'm sorry; I find the article interesting and well constructed, but I can't approve of this hook. I'll gladly give it the green light if it mentions Delhi. At present, it's not a valid hook, in my view. It goes against the very spirit of the encyclopedia, by providing confusion rather than information. Other editors may of course give their views if they wish. Aridd (talk) 12:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• There seems to be a strong disagreement here, so I asked for more advice at WT:DYK. I am not convinced that a hook becomes deceptive by omitting relevant information, because all hooks must omit relevant information. Sharktopus 15:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I am one of the people who read Sharktopus' request. I believe that having Delhi would be important to understanding the hook, seeing as most major cities have one and people who live in minor cities would be like "WTF?" As mentioned in the rules, don't assume everyone knows what you are talking about. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I also camee here from Sharktopus' request. It appears to me that we're considering between:
    • ... that the man behind the courteous baritone 'Mind the gap' announcements is Shammi Narang?
    • ... that the man behind the courteous baritone 'Mind the gap' announcements in the Delhi Metro is Shammi Narang?

The first statement's use of the definite article implies that there is only one man behind any "courteous baritone 'Mind the gap' announcement", i.e. there are no such announcements recorded by anyone except Narang. This is not supported by the article or by sources, and is probably not true. So I think we must use the second option, specifying the Delhi Metro. I think MorelMWilliam's suggestion of just referring to it as "the Metro" is also not good; it would be akin to referring to "the university" without specifying what university. (Take a look at List of metro systems to get an idea of how widely used the term is.) cmadler (talk) 16:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

"In the Delhi Metro" needs to be there. A hook's not going to be interesting if readers don't know what it's talking about. On top of that, Cmadler has a point about the other version being misleading. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It was Crisco's hooks, ...that Metro means friendship and ...that Metro has a population of less than 15k, that drove me to leave Delhi from this hook. If it is the definite article that is the problem, then we can modify the first hook to '... that one of the men behind the courteous baritone Metro 'Mind the gap' announcements is Shammi Narang? _morelMW 17:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Mentioning Delhi will interest some people who would not otherwise have noticed the hook, in my opinion. Sharktopus 17:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay am fine with this version suggested earlier

• ... that the man behind the courteous baritone 'Mind the gap' announcements in the Delhi Metro is Shammi Narang?

_morelMW 17:43, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Good to go with the hook below. Aridd (talk) 18:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ... that the man behind the courteous baritone 'Mind the gap' announcements in the Delhi Metro is Shammi Narang?

Asterotrygon

• ... that a small fetus is preserved in the holotype fossil of the extinct stingray Asterotrygon (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Sempervivum tectorum ()

Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Article length & date, hook length and fact verified. Image is cc-by-sa 3.0. Sasata (talk) 16:40, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Sempervivum tectorum

• ... that many people still plant Sempervivum tectorum (Jove's beard) on the roofs of houses, as Charlemagne recommended?

• Reviewed: Reinhold and Ruth Benesch ()

5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Nominated by Sharktopus (talk) at 01:41, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date of expansion, source, and hook are all good. The second ellipsis in the hook doesn't seem necessary though. Smokeybjb (talk) 04:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I changed second ellipsis to a comma, which it probably should have been in the first place. Sharktopus 13:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Great Budbridge Manor

• ... that fish ponds at the Great Budbridge Manor on the Isle of Wight appear medieval?

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 22:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Sebuku (Sumatra).--Nvvchar. 01:04, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reinhold and Ruth Benesch

• ... that Reinhold and Ruth Benesch discovered the key role played by 2,3-bisphosphoglyceric acid (pictured) in the transport of oxygen by hemoglobin?

Created/expanded by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Morris Dam

• Interesting article, nice sharp image, good hook to go with it. Sharktopus 01:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Morris Dam

• ... that the reservoir of Morris Dam in Los Angeles County, California was used as a testing site for torpedoes and underwater missiles beginning in World War II?

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good, though I would suggest using this picture instead with a clearer view of the dam, especially at the smaller size. Gamaliel (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

George T. Walker

• ... that enrollment at the University of Louisiana at Monroe grew nearly five-fold between 1958 and 1976 during the tenure of its president, George T. Walker?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Tornadoes in New England

John Michael Kudrick

• ... that John Michael Kudrick, the current bishop of the Byzantine Catholic Eparchy of Parma, holds master's degrees in mathematics and computer and information science?

• Reviewed: Lee Corner ()

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Jacques Seligmann & Company

• ... that art dealer Jacques Seligmann & Company sold Portrait of a Young Woman (pictured) by Johannes Vermeer for over a quarter million dollars in 1951?

• Reviewed: Puddington Old Hall

Created/expanded by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir

• ... that Martin Luther's chorale Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir (From deep affliction I cry out to you) was sung at his own funeral?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: Albert Jewell who disappeared, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:46, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Operation Anti-Security

• ... that on 20 June 2011 the hacking groups Anonymous and LulzSec announced that they were joining forces for Operation Anti-Security?

• Reviewed: John Chase (doctor and soldier) ()

Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good stuff! Length, date and hook all fine. Why not use the image? Would make a good lead article. 100x100px Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 00:55, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Because we can't use fair-use images on the main page, or indeed here, so I've changed the image to a link. --Bencherlite 12:36, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Sebuku (Sumatra)

• ... that some ant species on Sebuku island may be descended from survivors of the 1883 eruption of Krakatoa?

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:39, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Review to follow.

Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:39, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Elizabeth Maitland, Duchess of Lauderdale (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:59, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Checked for DYK criteria. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 01:00, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

ASK Voitsberg

• ... that football club ASK Voitsberg was forced to change both its name and team colours during the annexation of Austria into Nazi Germany?

Created by Deserter1 (talk). Self nom at 13:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• While I accept that the club may well have been "forced" to change its name and colours, the article does not precisely say that, and I cannot confirm it from the foreign language links. Would you be prepared to go with:

• ALT1 ... that football club ASK Voitsberg changed both its name and team colours during the annexation of Austria into Nazi Germany? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:58, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that would be absolutely fine. For information, reference number 3 is to a short piece on the team's history from the official club website (in German). This includes the sentence "In den Jahren von 1938 bis 1945 wurde der Verein von den Nationalsozialisten von ASK Voitsberg in Grün-Weiß-Krems umbenannt" - which translates as: "In the years 1938 to 1945, the club was renamed by the Nazis from ASK Voitsberg into Grün-Weiß-Krems." Although the context indicates the change was not made willingly, I accept it is perhaps a slight leap to use the word 'forced' (as an aside, although I have a good idea, I was unable to find a source that confirmed what the Nazis objected to, which would have been more interesting). Many thanks for the review. Deserter1 16:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

for ALT1. DYK criteria met; foreign language source AGF. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

HMCS Galt (K163)

• ... that HMCS Galt, a Flower-class corvette of the Royal Canadian Navy, escorted trade convoys during the Battle of the Atlantic?

Created by Thewellman (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:00, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. I took the liberty of adding "HMCS" to the hook, which I hope is an improvement. Moonraker (talk) 04:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Metro, Indonesia

• ... that Metro means friendship?

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Review to follow.

• Reviewed Kathleen Cody (actor) (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:16, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: "... that Metro has fewer than 150,000 residents?

Feels good to be back

Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length and dates check out. But both the hooks are not supported by sources. _morelMW 14:44, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I have added an extra in-line citation next to the Metro coming from the Javanese mitro. If you are worried about the difference between friend and friendship, we can use ALT2 "... that Metro means friend?"
  • As for the population, it is cited directly to the Lampung Province's statistics bureau. If you are worried about it being in Indonesian, that would warrant an AGF check-mark (i.e. {{subst:DYKtickAGF}}, not a refusal like you have used. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
• As a side note, would this be more grammatically correct?

ALT3 "... that Metro means 'friendship'?"

ALT4 "... that Metro means 'friend'?"

If I remember Linguistics 101 correctly, the word is italicized and the meaning is in between single quotation marks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I assume the reference for the first hook is offline and for the second hook it is in Indonesian. ALT1 is fine. _morelMW 15:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• I have fixed the harvnb template that was causing trouble. To be honest, I prefer either the original or ALT2, so (if it's not too much to ask) could some other editors weigh in on the choice of hook? All of them are hooky enough, and all of them play off of our expectations when we read the word Metro (an abbreviation for metropolitan vs. mitro (friend) Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Scott Lipsky

• ... that tennis player Scott Lipsky (pictured), winner of the 2011 French Open Mixed Doubles Championship , was ranked # 1 in the U.S. Juniors in both singles and doubles in 1995?

Expanded 5x by/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 05:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Aya Sameshima

Checks out Thelmadatter (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

The Fall of the City

• ... that the radio play The Fall of the City is the first verse drama written for radio?

Created by Flowerpotman (talk). Nominated by Kosboot (talk) at 17:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• The claim of being first needs qualification. For example, Bridson's March of the 45 was broadcast in 1936 — a year earlier. The Handbook of Radio Drama Techniques says that Fall of the City was "America's first poetic drama for radio". If it was just an American first, we should make this clearer. Warden (talk) 11:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Constituencies for French residents overseas

• ... that the world has been divided into eleven constituencies (pictured) for French residents overseas to vote in the 2012 legislative election?

• Reviewed: Shammi Narang ()

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 17:15, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go.--— ZjarriRrethues —  19:26, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Nice article, but I wouldn't recommend using that picture for the hook. At such a small resolution it's almost useless in the hook as it's too small to be able to tell which countries are included in each constituency. BigDom 19:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It gives a sense of which regions form constituencies, though. Which I would suggest is sufficient for the hook. And it may encourage readers to click for more detail. (And thank you, by the way.) Aridd (talk) 19:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 7

HMCS Eyebright (K150)

• ... that the HMCS Eyebright was a Flower-class corvette named after the Euphrasia genus of medicinal flowering plants?

Created by Thewellman (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 04:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Joan Berkowitz

• ... that chemist Joan Berkowitz made important discoveries in the fields of spacecraft construction and pollution control?

• Reviewed: Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 15:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal

• ... that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal was the first honour created specifically for Canada.

• Looks good. The picture of the medal can't be used for the front page, but perhaps the CC picture of the ribbon? Gamaliel (talk) 15:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by EricSerge (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Andreas Samuel Krebs EricSerge (talk) 10:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Hollis Downs

• ... that retiring Louisiana State Rep. Hollis Downs failed in his attempt in 2011 to raise college tuition rates to offset budget cuts in higher education?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Peter Voss

Pangani Longclaw

• ... that the Pangani Longclaw is only 20 cm (7.9 in) long?

• Reviewed: Polygala lewtonii

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Hook verified, article is ready and confirmed 5x expanded at date per DYKcheck! Rcej (Robert) – talk 08:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Polygala lewtonii

• ... that the rare and endangered Lewton's polygala (pictured) produces three types of flowers, including one that remains underground?

• Reviewed: Robert W. Glover
• Comment: hook is on page 6 of the ref

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• date, size and hook check out. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Peter Voss

• ... that SS-Oberscharführer Peter Voss was the first commander of the Auschwitz crematoria and gas chambers, buildings used to kill 900,000 people?

5x expanded by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Robertsbridge United Reformed Church

• ... that the design of Robertsbridge United Reformed Church (pictured) in England as been described as "truly horrible" and "most dissolute"?

• Reviewed: Museum of Broken Relationships (Diff)

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 20:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Ramsdell Hall

• ... that Ramsdell Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, has been described by architectural writers as "a curious house", and as "an appealingly quirky house"?

• ALT1:... that Ramsdell Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, contains an octagonal dining room, a hexagonal hall, and a drawing room with a Rococo ceiling?
• Reviewed: ASK Voitsberg

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good, one book source confirmed. One slight suggestion if more space is needed: "...described by architectural writers as a "curious" and "appealingly quirky" house"?--NortyNort (Holla) 09:36, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Brett Geymann

• ... that Louisiana State Rep. Brett Geymann once sought a legislative remedy for crawfish being pushed into neighboring ditches because of rising waters?

ALT ... that Louisiana State Rep. Brett Geymann of Lake Charles authored a rule in 2011 which prevents his state from using one-time money to balance the budget?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Benito Juárez, D.F.

Benito Juárez, D.F.

• ... that the Benito Juárez borough of Mexico City has been ranked as having the highest standard of living in Mexico?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• REVIEWED Scott Lipsky Thelmadatter (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Versailles Research Centre

• ... that the Palace of Versailles Research Centre gives access to the collections, archives and documentation at the Palace of Versailles?

Created by Whiteghost.ink (talk). Self nom at 05:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Moved from July 14 (Bastille Day) holding area for review. Article relies entirely on the organization's website for sourcing. Also, this is a very mundane hook; I think something more interesting/unusual is needed. cmadler (talk) 13:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I've renamed the article with a more accurate name. Trizek 17:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that the hook is not interesting enough. May I suggest "... that research carried out by the Palace of Versailles Research Centre is carried out in the Jussieu Pavilion, a building once occupied by Bernard de Jussieu, a member of the family of famous botanists and historians of the natural world, after whom the Paris metro station Jussieu was named." I think it would be good to have the article as a DYK on Bastille Day. Whiteghost.ink 02:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Really better, I think ! Trizek 08:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Edward Baigent

• ... that Edward Baigent, later a New Zealand Member of Parliament, reputedly slept under the 'Baigent sleeping tree', a large tōtara near Wakefield, when he first came to the area?

• Reviewed: Elections in Pichilemu (diff)
• Comment: The review is from some time ago.

5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 05:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• I've just added to the article the interesting fact that the school set up by his wife is these days the oldest continuously operating school in New Zealand. It's referenced to the school's website, but I haven't been able to find an independent source for this claim as yet. If I do (or somebody else does), it would make a more interesting hook fact. Schwede66 05:00, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Ok, found an independent source. Schwede66 05:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1... that the school started in 1843 by Edward Baigent's wife at their home in Wakefield is today New Zealand's oldest public school?

Thomas Thynne (died 1639)

• ... that the hasty marriage of Thomas Thynne of Longleat (pictured) may have helped to inspire Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet?

• Reviewed: HMCS Galt (K163) (diff)

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self nom at 04:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref approved AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:54, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 8

Far Eastern Party

• ... that Douglas Mawson (pictured) was the sole survivor of the Far Eastern Party, enduring almost a month alone in the Antarctic and walking about 100 miles (160 km) to safety?

• Reviewed: Punchiná Dam ()

Created by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 08:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Chuck Kleckley

• ... that Louisiana State Rep. Chuck Kleckley has been instrumental in broadening the functions of the Lake Charles Harbor and Terminal District?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Joe Ebanks

Owais Ahmed

• ... that all five of Owais Ahmed's in the money finishes at the 2011 World Series of Poker were in Mixed poker games?

• Reviewed: TBD

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Joe Ebanks

• ... that Joe Ebanks has on more than one occasion won two large multitable online poker tournaments in the same day?

• Reviewed: TBD

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:43, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act

• ... that the District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act freed slaves in Washington, D.C. almost nine months before the passage of the Emancipation Proclamation?

• Reviewed: Martin Wines ()

Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 01:00, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• I apologize for the tardiness, but if at all possible, I hope this could be featured on July 12 (preferably in midday UTC) for Misplaced Pages:GLAM/NARA/Today's Document challenge as well as because one part of the article has significance to that date. Thanks, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:03, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thomas G. Carmody

• ... that the Louisiana State Rep. Thomas G. Carmody obtained passage in 2009 of a bill strengthening penalities for the crime of indecent behavior with juveniles?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Mureybet

Mureybet

• ... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria believed to have been occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 B.C.?

• Reviewed: Iraq ed-Dubb ()

5x expanded by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing my hook. However, you changed it without notifying me, or even posting a note here. Could you maybe indicate why you think this wording is better than the original (which I think is more correct), which reads: "... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria that was occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 BC?" Note that you have also changed BC to B.C., even though BC is correct per wp:mos. Thanks! --Zoeperkoe (talk) 23:50, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

:Didn't know that BC is correct instead of B.C. When one goes back that far in time, it seems best to say "believed" because of inherent speculation. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:16, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

BC or B.C. may refer to:

Before Christ, an epoch Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

If you think it's both allowed (even though wp:mos uses BC and not B.C.), then why change it at all? Furthermore, there is no speculation or believe in radiocarbon dates; it's science. I'm sorry, I still think that the hook I provided is more correct. I would like to see another editor's opinion on this.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 03:31, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Just for clarity, I'll add the original hook as

ALT1: ... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria that was occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 BC? --Zoeperkoe (talk) 04:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Alan Seabaugh

• ... that because of a lack of support, Louisiana State Rep. Alan Seabaugh was compelled in 2011 to withdraw his bill requiring presidential candidates to show proof of U.S. citizenship?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Nasi kucing

Shrigley Hall

• ... that Shrigley Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, originally a country house, was later a school, and now is a hotel and country club?

• Reviewed: Robert Mulka

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

13 (Megadeth album)

• ... that after the occurrence of several odd incidents during the recording for Megadeth's 13, guitarist/vocalist Dave Mustaine speculated about a connection with the unlucky number 13?

Created by L1A1 FAL (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Mark Mendelblatt

• ... that American yachtsman Mark Mendelblatt, silver medalist at the 2004 Laser World Championships, won the International Optimist Dinghy National Sailing Championships when he was 11 years old?

Created by/self-nom ----Epeefleche (talk) 19:58, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Peterborough Centre

Peterborough Centre

• ... that damage from the February 2011 Christchurch earthquake at the Peterborough Centre (pictured) is estimated at NZ$12m, only NZ$0.3m less than the insured value of this historic building?

• Reviewed: Franciscan monastery of Saint Luke, Jajce (diff)
• Comment: Moved into mainspace earlier today. The review is from a wee while back.

Created by Schwede66 (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Robert Mulka

• ... that despite overseeing the construction of the crematoria and gas chambers at Auschwitz, what specifically shocked SS-Obersturmführer Robert Mulka at the camp was his colleagues' dress sense?

• Reviewed: Mary Deros ()

Created by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook OK. Offline and foreign language refs AGF. Nice hook! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Nasi kucing

• ... that the Javanese eat cat rice?

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Quiet Birdmen (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:15, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Indonesians eat cat rice?

(In case the information needs to be more explicit in the article) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know who changed the original hook, but I am returning the original to my suggestion and adding the change as ALT2 "... that the Javanese eat cat rice, named for its small portion size?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

To note, I prefer the original or ALT1 in a pinch. The etymology of the name makes it less hooky, I think. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Shotwick Hall

• ... that Shotwick Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, was built in 1662, replacing an earlier manor house on a nearby moated site?

• Reviewed: Molwyn Joseph

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Mary Deros

• ... that in 2007 politician Mary Deros of Montreal helped prevent an historic city avenue from being renamed after Robert Bourassa, a former Quebec premier?

Created by CJCurrie (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 08:06, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looking good. WilliamH (talk) 15:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Operation Slapstick

• ... that Operation Slapstick, part of the Allied invasion of Italy, was only planned after the Italians had offered to let them land unopposed?

Self nom and x5 expansion by Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones below

• 6.4× expansion...offline ref AGF'd. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​ 01:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Operation Slapstick, part of the Allied invasion of Italy, was only planned after the Italians had offered to let the British 1st Airborne Division land unopposed? Ericoides (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones

• ... that from 1936 to 1977, Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones was both president and head baseball coach of historically black Grambling State University in Louisiana?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:14, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Robertsbridge United Reformed Church

Date and length are OK but at present the article is only a stub and not eligible for DYK. Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It's 8,142 bytes; normally an article with 5,000 bytes is sufficiently long for DYK. How much longer must it be; I don't have any additional information at this time. I have never heard of a length beyond 5,000 bytes required. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Charles Franklin Hildebrand was approved for DYK this week with 5,110 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Mayhew Foster was recently approved with 6,200 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:42, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

good to go now. The format was the problem no lede or any sections. Just one continuous block of text. By the way only characters count towards DYK not byte size. Its 3790 characters (626 words). Jim Sweeney (talk) 13:00, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it's now 10,000 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:59, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Furtivos

• ... that the Spanish film Furtivos (Poachers) won best picture at the San Sebastián International Film Festival in 1975?

Created by Miguelemejia (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ; looks kosher. Nice hook! Ironholds (talk) 01:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Ganga Rail-Road Bridge

• ... that one person was killed in police firing during disturbances in connection with the site selection of Ganga Rail-Road Bridge in India?

Created by Chandan Guha (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Jezhotwells (talk) 02:05, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Size OK. Hook supported by reference but would be better rephrased as per below:

Alt1: ... that one person was killed by police during disturbances occasioned by the site selection of the Ganga Rail-Road Bridge in India? Jezhotwells (talk) 02:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Okay with me. Thanks. - Chandan Guha (talk) 02:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Molwyn Joseph

• ... that Antiguan politician Molwyn Joseph, dismissed from the government after allegations of impropriety, was reappointed to the Cabinet after less than two years?

  Reviewed Furtivos. Ironholds (talk) 01:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:06, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Pretty sure that few people will know what Antigua is, so I linked to Antigua and Barbuda. Manxruler (talk) 11:26, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Brittany Pierce

• ... that the writers of the television show Glee use cheerleader Brittany Pierce to say things none of the other characters would?

HorrorFan121 (talk) 01:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Linked the show for you. Manxruler (talk) 08:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 9

Mochtar Lubis, Jalan Tak Ada Ujung, Indonesia Raya (newspaper), Harimau! Harimau!, Senja di Jakarta

• ... that Indonesian "renaissance man" Mochtar Lubis, co-founder of the daily Indonesia Raya, wrote novels regarding superstition, corruption, and erectile dysfunction?

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Mochtar Lubis is a 5x expansion. The rest are new. Reviews to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Vittore Grubicy de Dragon

Painter Vittore Grubicy de Dragon (1851-1920)

• ... that painter Vittore Grubicy de Dragon (pictured) was largely responsible for introducing theories that led to Divisionism in Italian painting?

Created by Lexaxis7 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:10, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Tower of Jericho

• ... that the shadow of nearby mountains first hit the Tower of Jericho (pictured) on the sunset of the summer solstice and then spread across the entire proto-city in c. 8000 BCE?

• Reviewed: Operation Anti-Security

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Jersey Bridge

• ... that when the Jersey Bridge (pictured) was replaced, the only way for tourists to visit the Drake Well Museum was by train?

• Reviewed: Operation Slapstick ()

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Please do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, nominate them in the candidate entries section above, under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated (i) within five days of creation or expansion, as usual, and (ii) between five days and six weeks before the occasion, to give reviewers time to check the nomination. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements; see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

July 10

Terry Fullerton

• ... that triple Formula One world champion Ayrton Senna cited Terry Fullerton, his teammate in their karting days, as the driver he felt most satisfied racing against throughout his career?

• Comment: The day of the 2011 British Grand Prix

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self nom at 22:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

All aspects checked. But please cover all of the bare links. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I was going to fill them in but sice it has been done, I wish to thank Materialscientist for helping to cover all the bare link which I forgot to do yesterday. Donnie Park (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Ready to be DYK'd. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Did you read it at all? --Ohconfucius 09:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Another editor might disagree with another editor's review, but never doubt it if I ever read an article or not, because I do read articles. This is why this site is a wiki. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• It seems that I may have hurt your pride, which I regret. There may be subjective dividing lines between "good" prose and "exceptional" prose, but I don't think there is anything all that subjective about the "poor" and unparseable prose I objected to. Your approval of the article left that as the big question in my mind. I would also mention that I fail to see what "This is why this site is a wiki" got to do with anything. There are Featured Articles, Good Articles, stubs, blatant promotion and vandalism here too... --Ohconfucius 07:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Totally disagree. The prose of this article is unfit for front page listing as it stands. For example, the first paragraph of the biography doesn't parse at all: When his brother, Alec, was killed in a motorcycle racing accident at Mallory Park in 1964, Terry took the decision not to graduate to automobile racing to spare his family of further anguish and have remained racing karts throughout his career as he saw the incentive to remain was enough for him., and there is more where this came from – including several sentences with non sequiturs. Do not pass go, do not collect ₤200. --Ohconfucius 09:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I now fixed the article, hope it is okay, may I now hand in my Get Out of Jail card. Donnie Park (talk) 16:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• You've landed on Park Lane, and I have several hotels on it! ;-) The problems of poor prose abound in the article, and redundancies like this still remain: He became the first British karting champion in 1973 when he won the 1973 Karting World Championship. Not to mention typos such as "sucess". --Ohconfucius 02:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

AnakngAraw does good work here. But in this article, the prose is a big problem.

"Although Fullerton is British, he raced under an Irish license in 1967, due to that he did not make it through driver selection despite finishing second during a meeting. As his bloodline is Irish, meaning that he is entitled to hold an Irish license. He competed in the World Championships with limited sucess and again in the following year."

See my user page top box for a link to "How to find good copy-editors". Independent eyes are always useful. Tony (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• I have done what I can at this time, I hope that is good enough, any feedback is welcome and thanks to Ohconfucius for his help, and oh, I hope he lands on my Mayfair one day and face a hefty bill. Donnie Park (talk) 12:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I have no outstanding issues: I've copyedited it some more, and I think the prose is acceptable now. Now I have to get back to building some more hotels on Park Lane so I can lure more rich tourists! --Ohconfucius 08:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

July 12

Leroy Petry

• ... that on July 12, Leroy Petry (pictured) will become only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions since the end of the Vietnam War?

Created by TomPointTwo (talk), RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Nominated by Jwillbur (talk) at 00:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

• Hook, reference, length, and date all check out. Note that I added (pictured) to hook for image. Thanks, Ruby2010 comment! 00:49, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

• Note: I listed the article creator (TomPointTwo) and the most prolific editor (RightCowLeftCoast) as the authors, but a number of others have added to the article as well. Also, can this item be held until the date of the presentation ceremony, July 12? — jwillbur 00:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
ALT1... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Your alt hook looks great, thank you. — jwillbur 06:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Based on Ruby2010's approval of the date, length, and references for this nomination, this is approved with ALT1 and moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 12. OCNative (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps it should say 'American' or 'U.S.' somewhere in the hook. The Medal of Honor link should be changed also, as it points to a dab page. --Soman (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I had typed Medal of Honour... anyway, it is still a bit ambigous. There are various other medals with similar names. --Soman (talk) 01:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

How about Congressional Medal of Honor or the U.S. Congressional Medal of Honor? While technical incorrect, that moniker has always been specificially associated with this particular American military decoration. Also, using the link Congressional Medal of Honor will re-direct the reader to the appropriate article. Marcd30319 (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't realize this discussion was still going on here. I'm hesitant to use "Congressional" to perpetuate a common misnomer, particularly when anyone who knows the term Congressional Medal of Honor will also understand the term Medal of Honor. How about this ALT adding U.S. in front of Medal of Honor:
ALT2... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the U.S. Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 10:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I have minor concern about the wording of the hook being confusing. Saying that he is the second living soldier can be taken two ways: that he is the second person still alive today (this interpretation matches the piped linked article List of living Medal of Honor recipients), or that he is the second non-posthumous recipient. In this case it appears to me that both are true, but the dual meaning makes it confusing, because a reader may wonder which meaning is intended. Since the latter meaning strikes me as the more significant, I suggest that the hook should be reworded to clarify that. cmadler (talk) 12:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

July 26

Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg

• ... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg turned the East Wing of Schloss Johannisberg (pictured) into a concert hall for the Rheingau Musik Festival?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Two things: Could we identify her somehow? Like: "... that German patron of the arts Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..." or "... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..."? Also, could you review another hook? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• edit conflict: I reviewed #Peter Child, took me a moment, smile. "Princess" is fine, German patron of the arts seems a bit too narrow, as she was of Russian origin and a writer, artist and charity benefactor also. You could also say "the last member of the House of Metternich", but that seems a bit longish to me. She died 5 years ago on 26 July, that might be a good date to promote this. I wonder if I should add more details (Berlin years, 600 km treck ...) or leave them in the sources to be discovered by interest readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• OK, I added "Princess" to the hook. If you have the additional biographical information, I think it's good to add it, considering that many of your sources are in German. But the length as it stands now is fine for DYK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Additional details are in the Telegraph obituary, available in English (the German sources are minor in length and don't supply much more). I will read the Missie diary and look for more there. What do you think of 26 July? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• I think you can fit it in under 200 char, but is it interesting?
• ALT1: ... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg, who died five years ago today, turned the East Wing of Schloss Johannisberg (pictured) into a concert hall for the Rheingau Musik Festival? Yoninah (talk) 22:11, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Well, the festival always has impressive flowers on her grave right next to the Basilika (should I mention the location in the article?) on the anniversary of her death. This is a bit like it, thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• I'm not crazy about the alt. Can we stick with the original? Yoninah (talk) 21:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Yes. Can we just run it that day? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Sure, why not? Original hook good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Moved hook to July 26, fifth anniversary of the Princess' death. Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 27 June 2011 (UTC)