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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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Nominations

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on June 28

Thomas Ford Chipp, Imatong Mountains

• ... that Thomas Ford Chipp found Coreopsis Chippii in the Imatong Mountains?

• Reviewed: Jeremy Howard-Williams ()

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• date, length, refs fine. Minor requests: Chipp's article says "collected", the source suggests "discovered", - "found" seems almost too weak. It looks like the plants are named after him? I didn't see that in the hook, perhaps others are as blind? And perhaps add 1929? The related mountain has a bare url, btw. - Interesting fact! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
  • How about ALT1 below? The plant is named after Chipp, but I don't think that needs to be spelled out. I am reluctant to use "discovered" as in "Columbus discovered America" when the local people presumably already knew it was there. I will try to add to the mountain article, and to ecology/people on this one. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
• ALT1:... that in 1929 Thomas Ford Chipp found Coreopsis Chippii in the Imatong Mountains?
  • ALT2:... that in 1929 Thomas Ford Chipp found Bidens chippii in the Imatong Mountains?

    Names of species should be italicized; plant names do not usually capitalize the epithet, and the current scientific name is Bidens chippii. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• I am o.k. with ALT2. Seems more correct. Aymatth2 (talk) 11:56, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

repeated for clarity, ALT2 preferred, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

William L. Brandon

• ... that William L. Brandon, a Confederate officer, had to have his leg amputated after a ball went through it?

Created by Ceradon (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ceradon, I just looked at your article, which has a ton of great info and sources on Gen. Brandon. However, there are several things that need to be fixed before it's ready for DYK, or for Misplaced Pages.

• Per DYK reviewing guidelines, your hook fact (his amputation) "must be immediately followed by an inline citation to a reliable source," which you don't have there at the moment, it's down at the end of the paragraph.
• I didn't make an exact count, but reading through, I noticed maybe a dozen careless typos, and some spelling and grammar errors. You should proofread again and correct, starting with your lead sentence: ". . . best known for serving with the Confederate General in the American Civil War."
• Also in that first sentence, the name of the state should appear after the county names. Not everybody who reads Misplaced Pages has a clue where Adams County is, you know.
• When you make an inline citation for a printed source that is not viewable online, it should NOT be wikilinked; that just makes a circular link back to your own article, which serves no purpose.
• What you call the "Notes" section should be relabled "References"; and what you call "References" should be relabled "Bibliography."
• Then the contents of the bibliography section should be put in alphabetical order, going by the first word in each entry. In all but one case, that is someone's last name. However, although you correctly use Last Name, First Name on those, you should NOT do that for an organization name. Meaning - change Company, Reprint to simply Reprint Company.
• For an encyclopedia article, I wonder if it's truly important to devote so much space in this article to the minute medical details of his amputation. Those details are about one-half of your word count - but do they really outweigh all the other things that occurred in his life?
• All but one of your citations are to printed books, so I can't verify the accuracy of your claims and have to accept them in good faith. However, when I read sentences such as "he labored to bring out every man needed for the service of the Confederacy," I have to wonder if that is your own language, or if you copied it out of a book? It's fine to use quotations, as long as you put them in quotation marks and identify the source - but simply lifting whole phrases and sentences from a source is plagiarism. I'm not saying you did that, but please consider your writing methods here.

Having said all that, I think it will be a fine article when you get it cleaned up. If you need help, hit me at my talk page. Textorus (talk) 03:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I've gone through and fixed a number of things in the article, though I left a couple editor's notes here and here that should be addressed. A couple of the points Textorus raised aren't valid; linking the citations can be useful and I've seen it done in a number of high-quality articles. As for the naming of the reference sections, it's perfectly fine as is (I've use the same format - Footnotes and References sections - in 20+ FAs). One last thing: you've got a reference to "Welsh 2006" - should this be "Welsh 1999" or "Warner 2006"? Parsecboy (talk) 13:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you mean a Minnie ball? The link you used makes it look like it's a cannonball...I think it should be Minié ball or "minie ball" (pronounced 'minnie'). Shearonink (talk) 23:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

NOTE: I have withdrawn my nominated article, so someone else can take over the review of this article. The author of it has not yet responded. Textorus (talk) 03:05, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Confederate officer William L. Brandon returned to lead his regiment despite battle injuries and having one leg amputated?
• ALT2 ... that Confederate officer William L. Brandon had an ankle-joint shattered in battle but refused whiskey because he liked it only with sugar?

• Suggestions above have been taken by the author and additional work on the article by Shearonink improved it. The source cited just says a "ball" went through him. Instead of linking to any specific kind of ball in the hook, how about recasting the hook? Note I am NOT approving one of my own hooks above, I am merely suggesting to the person making Prep that any of the three hooks listed above would be fine. Sharktopus 15:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Jacksonville Braves

• ... that in 1953, the Jacksonville Braves became one of the first two racially integrated baseball teams in the South Atlantic League?

5x expanded by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed İncili Çavuş--Cúchullain /c 17:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

It would be more interesting if we add the names of two of those players who later became major stars. How about this alternative--Cúchullain /c 14:07, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT: ... that in 1953, the Jacksonville Braves became one of the first two racially integrated baseball teams in the South Atlantic League by fielding players including Hank Aaron and Félix Mantilla?

Articles created/expanded on June 29

Badi Uzzaman

• ... that Badi Uzzaman was granted political asylum in the United Kingdom after acting in a film hostile to the government of Pakistani General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq?

Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 02:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• One source is not good enough. Please find more sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• I've added a ref to an article from The News International to supplement The Guardian ref. OCNative (talk) 09:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Rami Levi Hashikma Marketing

• ... that you can buy chicken for 1 shekel a kilo (13 cents a pound) at Rami Levi supermarkets?

• Reviewed: Jerbourg Point ()

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Length, creation date and references to hook verified. Good to go!Some one should emulate this model in India where food and consumer articles prices are raising alarmingly.--Nvvchar. 01:56, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
• Something I could not parse: what is a 'holiday discount' - a discount for purchasing holidays or discount offered on public holidays? --Ohconfucius 06:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Fails rule F10:- The article reads like the company's promotional material, as does the hook. I've tried copyediting it, but there's just too much. --Ohconfucius 06:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• I fixed the part about holidays.
• Ohconfucious, I do not understand the reasoning for your advertising tag. None of the information in the article (except for the list of store locations and the names of the fast food outlets in the supermarket) is from the company's website – all the information comes from reliable news sources. I tried to present the information as neutrally as possible. It would be helpful if you would identify just what sounds too promotional to you. I also don't understand why you would delete a sourced fact like the company's market share increasing 464% between 2008 and 2011 on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange. I didn't even include the recent news item where he promised to deliver free groceries every week to the orphans of the Itamar attack until the youngest turns 18.
• If the hook seems promotional rather than catchy, here is an alt:
• ALT1: ... that Rami Levi introduced supermarket price wars to Israel? Yoninah (talk) 09:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Unsure whether I like the original hook or ALT1 less. Certainly, the advertising issue is more obvious in the original. Could you avoid left-sided pics unless clearly ok? The text will be squashed at many window widths. 240px would be good, too, for both. What does this mean: "Now he did turn a profit,"? "a 40 square metres (430 sq ft) stall"—awkward (no "s", to start with). MoS suggests reversing, where you do need the s: "a stall 40 square metres (430 sq ft) in area", which also removes the hyphen issue. It's hard, but can the readers get a better grip on what new shekels are worth, in US$? Possibly a footnote to the as of 2011 exchange rate? If it didn't have those newpaper refs, it would be deleted as non-notable. I'm not entirely comfortable with this, but I can't put a clear case against a DYK once the prose is fixed up throughout. Tony (talk) 10:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, ALT1 is already much better. It's certainly a distinguishing claim, although hard discounting is nothing new, except to Israel in 2007. As to the spam, I'd say that just because its third-party sourced does not necessarily make it non-promotional. There are all sorts of publications out there covering the wide spectrum from objective factual reporting through PR right through to blatant unabashed advertising. Let's not forget that the Israeli press is hardly neutral in the current political context in the Middle East. As an obvious success story, it's being written about in admirative glowing terms. The apparent threatening of its existence in the occupied territories by Palestinian Authority mandated boycott is of equally obvious propaganda value. I have copyedited part of the article, at the same time as removing spam. For instance, I merged the examples of price-cutting into a picture of their continuous strategy. I havent yet touched the on the worst of it, in the sections which follow, but I hope that my work can show you what can be done; I shan't be doing any more.

  I removed the reference to the 4-fold increase in market share or the improvement in share price? Well it's not terribly encyclopaedic. Publicity stunts are generally unencyclopaedic except when its part of another coherent picture, so I'd definitely leave out the bit about free deliveries. And a fourfold increase doesn't mean anything, for it could be 0.1% to 0.464% share, or 10% to 46.4%; plainly writing its position as the third behind Shufersal and Blue Square with x% market share suffices, I think. --Ohconfucius 16:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you, OhConfucious, for your constructive edits. I will try to fix up the rest of the article per your examples. Yoninah (talk) 17:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• It seems to me the article is ready to go. Yoninah (talk) 08:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 30

Frederik Wilhelm Stabell; Battle of Trangen

• ... that Frederik Wilhelm Stabell's merits at the Battle of Trangen and other battles of the Dano-Swedish War of 1808-1809 earned him the Order of Dannebrog?

Reviewed Theil–Sen estimator. See . Oceanh (talk) 08:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Everything for the first article ok. Plz cite the correct ref for at least every paragraph in Battle of Trangen and we're good... its under referenced ;) Rcej (Robert) – talk 04:38, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Paling in 't groen

• ... that paling in 't groen (pictured) is a Flemish dish of eel in a green herb sauce?

Created by SomeHuman (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 04:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Creation date confirmed. Hook verified through online English-language source. Can someone verify the other ref because it "appears Flemish to me..." Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

List of accolades received by The Young Victoria

• ... that costume designer Sandy Powell earned her third Academy Award for the 2009 film The Young Victoria?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 23:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Forest Shely Ruby2010 comment! 23:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Capnomancy

• ... that capnomancy was still practiced in New England as late as 2003?

• Reviewed: The Ride to Conquer Cancer ()

5x expanded by All Hail The Muffin (talk). Self nom at 21:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

There seems to be more references here than actual written material. Can this be expanded? Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

It's been 5x expanded and it has over 1500 characters. Not sure why it needs further expanding. All Hail The Muffin Nor does it taste nice... 10:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Pennywhistle modem

• ... that Lee Felsenstein designed the Pennywhistle modem to replace a commercial design used on Community Memory, the first bulletin board system?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed 195th (Airlanding) Field Ambulance, below.

Articles created/expanded on July 1

Fokker FG-2

• ... that the Fokker FG-2 made the world's first passenger flight with a glider in 1922?

Created by Petebutt (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Lee Corner

• ... that Lee Corner in Alexandria, Virginia includes the homes of U.S. Revolutionary War Officer Light Horse Harry Lee, U.S. Attorney General Charles Lee, and Confederate General Robert E. Lee?

Created by Lbblac (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:54, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• The length and date are fine, but the hook statements need to be cited explicitly. (The citations in the article need cleanup in general, in a matter of fact.) — AJDS 19:32, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• I've fixed the issues you raised. OCNative (talk) 10:01, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

BMW F650CS

• ... that the 2001 BMW F650CS (pictured) motorcycle's offbeat, "iMac-inspired" styling was meant to attract non-motorcyclists of the extreme sports generation?

• Reviewed: Denmark–Eritrea relations ()

5x expanded by Dennis Bratland (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Not this hook. Article is fine, but the ref says that the screen (only) is maybe imac inspired. Suggest you rephrase and represent Victuallers (talk) 07:07, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Did you notice that no fewer than three specific elements were cited which were directly compared with Apple iMacs of 2001: the translucent polycarbonate handles, the windscreen, and the body panel color choices?
  • Duke, Kevin (12 November 2002), "2002 BMW F650CS", MotorcycleUSA.com, retrieved 2011-07-01, The design is fresh and visually interesting, with links to contemporary industrial design. The most obvious example is the translucent polycarbonate rear luggage rails and the hand rails/luggage bridge at the rear of the "fuel tank," a material similar to that used on contemporary Apple computers.
  • Ash, Kevin (29 November 2001), "BMW's sweet bike of youth; BMW F650CS", The Telegraph, retrieved 2011-07-01, Cramped leg joints aside, comfort overall is very good, the small Apple iMac-inspired transparent screen deflecting wind up to shoulder level, allowing constant cruising well beyond British road speeds.
  • Allossery, Patrick (15 April 2002), "The element of risk: BMW is steering its sleek F650CS into the path of a new kind of first-time bike buyer: the unbranded, snowboarding, windsurfing, adrenalin-loving roughrider", National Post, Don Mills, Ontario, p. FP.12, For starters, the company has ripped a page from the strategy book of Apple Computer Inc. and is offering the F650CS in a choice of three youth-oriented colour schemes: azure blue metallic, golden orange metallic and beluga blue.

The articles that don't bring up Apple by name all generally agree that the marketing demographic the bike was aimed at was modeled after the stereotyipcal Apple buyer: young, urban, and attracted to consumer products with a strong sense of design (or overdesign if you like). They all mention this, and the two articles from the National Post go into great detail on the subject: Allosery above, and Booth, David (1 March 2002), "BMW builds a better 'thumper': Road test: 2002 BMW F650CS a serious bike, right down to the stereo", National Post, Don Mills, Ontario, p. DO.7. The DYK rules only require a single good source for the hook, but I believe I've about carpet bombed this hook. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

- sorry I did only find one reference. Thanks for pointing out the three and nice article. tick . Victuallers (talk) 14:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, Quincy Adams Shaw

• ... that Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, grandson of Quincy Adams Shaw and a member of an influential Boston Brahmin family, was co-inventor of the iron lung (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Jean Thurel ()

5x expanded by DiverDave (talk). Nominated by DiverDave (talk) at 20:35, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Refs and lengths check out. I am looking more closely at the dates.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:47, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
• This is the right date for Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior and within 5 days of the expansion beginnings for Quincy Adams Shaw.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

William Van Wagoner

• ... that bicycle racing champion William Van Wagoner (pictured) founded a namesake automobile manufacturing company?

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 01:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• I started making some copyedits and will actually review after lunch. Drmies (talk) 17:29, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• I have made a ton of copyedits and more need to be done. Also, the reference for the hook (ref. #3 in the current version) is incomplete--there may be something wrong in the template. The actual source has no online link so I can't check that right now; perhaps there is an online link that is lost in the template. But honestly, I don't want to copyedit anymore. Author should look at correct comma usage ("place, state" is always followed by a comma, and so are dates in the US format; I corrected a couple of incorrect "however" punctuations; many things are italicized that shouldn't be). A proper scrubbing, and a check for that reference, is required. Drmies (talk) 20:57, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Do you mean the citation to The New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Automobiles? Besides the necessary indication of the article being cited (which, indeed, is quite important), there's no need for anything else in that citation, as far as I can see. But then, I am falling asleep (walked all over Terre Haute, Indiana today, getting photos of 50 different historic sites!), so I could perhaps be missing something that should be obvious. Nyttend (talk) 05:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• I don't have a page number but that is all, otherwise, think it is looking good. Nconwaymicelli (talk) 23:10, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• When I looked at it, note 3 looked like this: "David Burgess Wise publisher=. The New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Automobiles." It looks better now, but it really needs a page number. Drmies (talk) 19:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
• I have had to make more copyedits. I don't think that it is done. Drmies (talk) 02:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

John Rowan (Kentucky)

• ... that, according to tradition, Stephen Collins Foster was inspired to write the ballad My Old Kentucky Home after a visit to Federal Hill, the mansion of Kentucky Senator John Rowan (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Jonathan Audy-Marchessault ()

5x expanded by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

National Churches Trust

• ... that since 2005 the National Churches Trust has distributed more than £9 million to over 1,000 churches in the UK?

• Reviewed: Pabasa (ritual)

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• I suggest you add a note that this trust is located in England; as I read this from America, something seems not quite right. Maybe Misplaced Pages has no problem with this -- this is the first time I've been involved with DYK -- but it also sounds a bit free-PR to me. You might be able to say the same about my nomination today, but when it comes to donations and do-gooding... it's a little more sensitive. Nice work on the article, though.--Jp07 (talk) 11:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Added "in the UK" to the hook. I don't understand the comments about "free-PR" and "do-gooding". The article is about a registered charity, and I have tried to write a factual account of its history, functions and finance-raising activities. It is in no way an advertisement any more than comparable articles on other charities (for example, see Historic Chapels Trust). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Well, understand that I come from a journalism background. Newspapers tend to avoid going out of their way to cover things that make notable people, i.e. politicians, or corporations/charities look good because the philosophy is that they ought to be paying for that recognition (i.e. in an advertisement) -- especially when this recognition comes on the front page of the newspaper (or in this case, Misplaced Pages). Recognizing the do-gooding of one person kind of requires you to recognize the good things that everyone else does, too, if you want to be fair, and that just kind of gets messy/impossible; failing to be fair leads to reader perceptions of bias. But like I said, that may not be something people worry about in this medium; I recognize that newspapers and Misplaced Pages are two different beasts. Not an accusation, just thoughts.--Jp07 (talk) 12:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Another thought: I'm not saying anything about this organization or its motives because I know nothing about it, but you find yourself feeling very guilty when it turns out that the motives of a charity are less than noble. This has happened to me before after writing a newspaper article about a charity. I later found out this charity had some questionable practices, and I felt like I assisted them in misleading people. So at least for newspapers, I feel like its best practice to avoid "free PR."--Jp07 (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I object strongly to the comments above. This nothing to do with an organisation with "less than noble" motives; it's about maintaining the physical structure of historic British buildings. Perhaps I should have said more about the people involved; please see this page. Yes there is a difference between writing for an encyclopedia and journalism (and I've done both). May I please have a proper review from a different editor for this suggestion.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:46, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I do not see what the problem is here. It is a simple statement of fact and helping preserve medieval churches is hardly at the sexy end of charity work. We cannot avoid giving any publicity at all to charities or commercial companies.--Charles (talk) 16:51, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

That's not a problem for me either. But there is something else: the article lacks secondary sources, completely. I really don't want to put an unreferenced tag on the article since I trust that Peter Vardy can remedy this, but until that has happened we should not send this on to the front page. Drmies (talk) 02:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I've added some material from a secondary source. Does that help? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes it does. Have you considered adding something from this collection? There's some interesting stuff in there on surveys they did (that those are cited helps towards objectivity also) and on individual things they did. I'd add it myself, but I'm a little scatter-brained today. Drmies (talk) 15:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I really do appreciate the trouble you've taken over this. I did do a Google search previously. The most useful material not already in the article is about THE SURVEY, which I decided not to include at present, as I had other articles to work on. If I had used it, though, I would have used the Trust's own site (which would not have helped the "problem"). OK newspaper reports might appear to make it more objective (?) but they are only repeating what is in a press release. In my experience a website like that of the Trust is more likely to be accurate than a newspaper article (or even Sky News!). The other Goggle hits seem mainly to be papers reporting local grants (which are a bit hit and miss) or that the royalty are going to go to a party. Getting this article to DYK is not a priority for me at present. If you would like to make it acceptable for DYK, please feel free, and make it a double-nom. Otherwise I suggest that the suggestion be withdrawn. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Long Gone (film)

• ... that the 1987 baseball film Long Gone starring William Petersen, has been described as, "three parts Bull Durham, two parts Slap Shot, add a dose of Bingo Long and a pinch of The Longest Yard"?

Created by Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 06:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable, but hook is too long and too distracting with all those rival movie links.

propose:

• ALT1: ... that the 1987 baseball film Long Gone, starring William Petersen, has been described as "the best baseball movie most of you never saw"? --Ohconfucius 14:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Just my opinion, but I still prefer my original hook. But I'm happy to go with the flow and majority of view. Also, the picture has dropped off, but is still refered to in both hooks. Spy007au (talk) 23:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

The hook has "(pictured)" but where is the picture? And is the picture freely usable? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

The article's only image is fair use, so it's unacceptable here. I've removed (pictured) from both hooks. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 06:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

The original hook is now less than 200 characters, including spaces, so it should be good to go. Again, just my opinion, the original hook is also catchier than ALT1. Spy007au (talk) 00:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Robert Beauchamp

• ... that American painter Robert Beauchamp originally attended Cranbrook Academy of Art for the love of a girl and to make money by learning pottery?

• Reviewed: Mitch Schock

Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• creation date, size, hook and sourcing all confirmed. Prose is acceptable. However, sections named 'Notable exhibitions' and 'Notable collections' seem out of place: whilst true that those galleries and collections in themselves are notable, there's something wrong with listing them in this way – there's no mention of the theme and dates of exhibitions, nor the works which are in these respective collections; no sources. Just remove these sections and we're good to go. --Ohconfucius 14:01, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

You'll have to remove those from the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006! Never had anyone mention a problem until now. SarahStierch (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

"the majority of the art history articles I have been writing since 2006" are not being evaluated for DYK, this one is. --Ohconfucius 16:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Yep, have to agree with Ohconfucius on this. It's been an issue at FAC, I believe, some time ago. Perhaps now is the time to update in this respect, and you might revisit the others when you do routine audits from time to time (necessary after a few years, anyway). HOOK: Suggestion, why not finish on "girl"? Punchier, more catchy? Tony (talk) 16:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 2

Robert Gould Shaw II

• ... that before she married Waldorf Astor, Lady Astor (pictured) was married to Robert Gould Shaw II, a cousin of Robert Gould Shaw?

• Reviewed: Goman ()

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the campus of Mount Ida College is situated on land that once was the estate of Robert Gould Shaw II, a cousin of Robert Gould Shaw?

Aduston Hall

• ... that Aduston Hall (pictured) is built like a mid-20th century California ranch house despite being a mid-19th century plantation house in Gainesville, Alabama?

Created by Altairisfar (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:50, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Tuttuki Bako

• ... that Tuttuki Bako players insert their fingers 60 mm (2.4 in) into an electronic device to render images of their fingers on an LCD screen?

Created by Thibbs (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:34, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Trigg Hound

• ... that after its founder died, the Trigg Hound became popular again because of a statement by famous big-game hunter Paul J. Rainey?

• ALT1:... that the ancestors of the Trigg Hound were considered unattractive by local fox hunters, but performed surprisingly well when hunting?

5x expanded by Anna (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Note: This is a bit of a tricky one, since the previous text was quite close to the source, just twiddled a bit (pun intended): diff and source (scroll to "Trigg Hound"). The author already had another article speedied for the same thing. It may not be close enough to count for the purposes of DYK, but I figured I'd give it a shot since it's not subtle at all. Anna 19:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Addendum: it wouldn't count as a 5x expansion if the previous text isn't considered copyright infringement, naturally. Neglected to mention that above -- oops. Anna 14:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Ian Oliver

• ... that former policeman Ian Oliver is the father of Craig Oliver, a special adviser in David Cameron's government?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 12:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• TheRetroGuy (talk · contribs) has more than 5 DYK credits. Peer review, please? --PFHLai (talk) 12:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Llanwrthw

• ... that the Living Willow Theatre, an open air theatre constructed of living willow trees, is located near the village of Llanwrthwl and occasionally holds outdoor performances of Shakespeare?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Martinevans123 (talk). Self nom at 09:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Eagle Hotel (Waterford, Pennsylvania)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

No Walls

• ... that No Walls "hit a rather huge wall"?

Created by Shaneymike (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 05:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• This is a nice, catchy hook. And the date of creation checks out. However, I'm somewhat concerned that, as it presently stands, about half of the article consists of a very long block quote from a copyrighted blog site called "Introverted Loudmouth." I'm not sure whether the blog site is a reliable source and would appreciate input from someone more familiar with Wiki policy on blogs. Also, I think the block quote should be cut back and the article expanded with material that does not consist of copyrighted quotations, before it is featured on the main page. If I'm misunderstanding the policy on such extensive use of block quotes, someone should feel free to correct me. Cbl62 (talk) 07:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thx for reviewing :) The blockquote is not considered as article prose; accordingly, it is omitted by DYKcheck which then indicates a prose size of 1580. Size is good... I'm not sure about the blog site question, though. heh Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

My concern is not that the article doesn't meet the bare minimum requirement of 1500 characters. Rather, my concern is with copyright (using such a lengthy quote from a copyrighted article) and with the reliability of the particular blog as a source. Anyone familiar with the "Introverted Loudmouth" site? Is it reliable? Shouldn't the blockquote be trimmed? Is there a guideline on how long a quote from copyrighted material may be without stepping over the boundaries of "fair use"? Misplaced Pages:Non-free content doesn't specify a particular limit on block quotes from non-free sources, but this one (at 1650 characters) seems to push the limit. Cbl62 (talk) 21:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

The "Introverted Loudmouth" blog is the creation of Brian Walsby. According to Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources, self-published sources such as blogs "are largely not acceptable." On the other hand, "Self-published material may be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." Here, I searched Google news, Google news archive, Google books, and Google scholar, and found 0 hits in which a mainstream third-party publication has cited or discussed the "Introverted Loudmouth" blog. A handful of articles about Walsby seem to be principally about his work as a cartoonist/drummer rather than a music critic. I'm inclined to think the source in this case does not meet reliability standards. Cbl62 (talk) 22:11, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that a No Walls show was described as “a brilliant collision of sinewy punk attack, angular-jazz maneuvers and catchy art-pop songwriting”? -- Rcej (Robert) – talk 03:27, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Voyeurs & Savages

• ... that the novel Voyeurs & Savages features Peeping Toms from the Philippines and the United States?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Svið.- AnakngAraw (talk) 01:54, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Bahamas Institute of Chartered Accountants, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Guyana, Institute of Chartered Accountants of Jamaica, Institute of Chartered Accountants of the Caribbean, Cayman Islands Society of Professional Accountants

• ... that BICA, ICAG and ICAJ are ICAC members, but CISPA is not?

• Reviewed: Ujjani Dam ()
• Comment: I think this one only gets used if there is a real shortage of other possibilities :~)

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment: You may want to replace those acronyms with the full name. Being over 200 chars is allowed for multiple hooks. The acronyms just make it even more confusing. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

If the names are spelled out nobody is going to click on any of them. But if they are not spelled out and readers do click on them, they may be unhappy about what they find. Although technically it qualifies, I think this nomination should be quietly ignored unless there is a desperate need to fill a queue. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:16, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Structures built by animals

• ... that the Long-tailed Tit (pictured) uses moss and the silk of spider egg cocoons as a natural form of velcro for holding together its nest?

• Reviewed: Katrina Dunn

Created by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 12:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date, hook, refs seem ok. Good to go once the stub template is removed and talk page rating updated. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Removed stub template & upgraded WikiProject banner assessment to C class as desired. Thank you. Anything else, please. AshLin (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

"(pictured)" now in italics per DYK rules. Not sure about the image, though, not too illustrative at this resolution. GregorB (talk) 19:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Went to great trouble to locate this image, find someone who graciously changed his license so that it could be loaded to Commons. Other images of Long-tailed Tit on Commons, except for this and a similar one, are available but not of a bird on the nest. May kindly consider the hook but without the image as I am unable in India to get another image of this European bird on nest. AshLin (talk) 02:50, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Good to go as far as I am concerned, the pic is probably not going to make it to the main page, I agree it is not very clear as a thumb :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 17:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Sam Stein

• ... that Sam Stein won his first World Series of Poker bracelet at the 2011 World Series of Poker but his largest single-event prize was a $1 million result at the 2011 PokerStars Caribbean Adventure?

• Reviewed: James O. Rodgers, George D. Stillman, Joseph R. Swan, George B. Chadwick, Charles D. Rafferty, Jack Owsley, William F. Knox, John Field, and Art Howe

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Demolition of Dhul Khalasa

• ... that even after Muhammad ordered the Demolition of the Pagan idol, Dhul Khalasa, the idol was resurrected and worshipped in the region until 1815, when members of the Wahabbi movement demolished it with gunfire?

Created by User:Misconceptions2 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Linked Wahhabi for you. I doubt many will know what that is. Linked Muhammad too. Manxruler (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, greatly appreciated. if anyone else wants to make changes feel free, or kindly give your thoughts on alternate hooks--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:00, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Please feel free to propose any changes--Misconceptions2 (talk) 21:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Portia labiata

• ... that the jumping spider Portia labiata has populations in different regions, but only one knows how catch a spitting spider safely and how to work out the best way to cross a small lagoon?
• ALT1 = ... that females of the jumping spider Portia labiata use silk draglines as territory marks, and use these to avoid females of higher fighting ability and spend more time around less powerful fighters?

• Reviewed: Demolition of Masjid al-Dirar ()

5x expanded by Philcha (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Nominated article linked and bolded in hooks. - Dravecky (talk) 11:34, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 3

H. S. Wong

• ... that the Japanese government once put a bounty on the head of photojournalist H. S. Wong?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 03:58, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Haigh Hall

• ... that Haigh Hall, which replaced the ancient manor house of Haigh, was built between 1827 and 1840 by James Lindsay, 7th Earl of Balcarres?

5x expanded by User:J3Mrs (User talk:J3Mrs. Nominated by User:Martinevans123 (User talk:Martinevans123) at 20:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

God Makes the Rivers to Flow

• ... that Easwaran's God Makes the Rivers to Flow claims that we are like a sculptor releasing a trapped elephant when we seek God- or Self-realization by meditating on a sacred text?

• Reviewed: West Ham United F.C. supporters ()

• Note: hook is verifiable online through reference #30 (link duplicated here) -- Presearch (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC) Created by Presearch (talk). Self nom at 16:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good, ready to go. History2007 (talk) 18:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 FOR IMAGE: See at right for side-cropped image (removes potentially distracting irrelevant parts of image). The article itself has now been altered to use this image. Either version is OK with me, both here and in the article. -- Presearch (talk) 19:09, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Burg Lockenhaus

• ... that Elizabeth Báthory, known as the "Blood Countess" because of her reign of terror, torturing, and murdering hundreds of women, once resided at the Burg Lockenhaus (pictured)?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Yak butter.--Nvvchar. 22:30, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

appr, nice pic BarkingMoon (talk) 22:32, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

My Sad Republic

• ... that My Sad Republic is a novel about a Filipino war hero and mystic who proclaimed himself as the Pope of a Philippine island?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Tuber oregonensis (Oregon white truffle).- AnakngAraw (talk) 21:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Suggested alt hooks:

ALT1: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a general and landowner who wants a Philippine island to become a territory of the United States?

ALT2: ... that the novel My Sad Republic is about a Filipino war hero and mystic who wants to return the Philippines to its pre-colonial status?

ALT3: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a Spanish priest was inserting a sacred host into the lips of a female's sex organ?

Hope any of the above will work. - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT4: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a love scene depicted as if a friar was inserting a sacramental bread into a female's sex organ? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:50, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT5: ... that the novel My Sad Republic has a dash of "friar erotica" in it? - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• I think ALT5 will get you a lot of clicks. Funny, we have an article about nunsploitation, why nothing for friar erotica? Sharktopus 18:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Victoria Fyodorova, Jackson Tate, Zoya Fyodorova, The Admiral's Daughter

• ... that the 1979 book The Admiral's Daughter relates the story of the "love child" of an American Navy captain who was expelled from Russia and a Soviet film actress who spent 8 years in Siberia, both on orders of Joseph Stalin? Created by Frank (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Joseph Stalin expelled an American Navy captain from Moscow after learning he had fathered a "love child" with a well-known Soviet film actress, who was then banished to Siberia for 8 years, in a story told in the 1979 book The Admiral's Daughter?
• ALT2: ... that Joseph Stalin expelled an American Navy captain from Moscow and banished a well-known Soviet film actress to Siberia, after learning they had conceived a "love child", all told in the 1979 book The Admiral's Daughter?

• Reviewed: Carl Legien diff  Frank  |  talk  19:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Tuber oregonensis

• ... that the annual Oregon Truffle Festival is held in late January to coincide with the maturing of the Oregon white truffle (pictured)?

• ALT1:… the Oregon white truffle (pictured) has been successfully cultivated in Christmas tree farms?
• Reviewed: Red or Black? ()

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I am unable to find a sentence in article mentioning the original hook. But I am accepting offline source for alt hook 1 in good faith. Length of article is fine, as well as creation date. The image is from commons. Perhaps a hook about how the fungus is beneficial to squirrels will be more interesting? - AnakngAraw (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I have included that bit for the original hook in the article text now. Here's the alt you suggested: Sasata (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT2: … the Oregon white truffle (pictured) is a major component of the diet of Northern flying squirrels?

I still couldn't find the ref/citation for the original hook. But I'd go with ALT2 , which is a cited hook. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Matthew Jarvis (poker player)

• ... that Matthew Jarvis became the third November Niner to earn a World Series of Poker bracelet in the following year?

• Reviewed: James O. Rodgers, George D. Stillman, Joseph R. Swan, George B. Chadwick, Charles D. Rafferty, Jack Owsley, William F. Knox, John Field, and Art Howe

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Wicklow Way

• ... that the Wicklow Way was originally proposed by J. B. Malone in a series of articles in the Evening Herald newspaper?

5x expanded by Joe King (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

• 5x expansion verified. Clearly written with extensive citations. Hybernator (talk) 01:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 4

Feathers Hotel, Ludlow

• ... that the New York Times referred to the Feathers Hotel (pictured) in Ludlow, Shropshire as "the most handsome inn in the world"?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I know an ideal source would be a direct quote from NYT itself but it can't be found online. But all of the Shropshire websites and some of the publications mention this. Frommer's sgould be considered a reliable source for this, its not something anybody would make up. If this is problematic we could go with a ghost ALT.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:57, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Hesperian (Mars)

• ... that Mars changed from a wet, warm world to today's dry, cold, and dusty planet during the Hesperian?

• Comment: Hope to slightly use the Swahili rule since: a) the creator has never had a DYK before; b) it's still July 9 in my time zone, and it's only been 5 hours since July 10 started in UTC.

Created by Schaffman (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 05:12, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Harley-Davidson XR-750

• ... that Evel Knievel's preferred stunt bike, the Harley-Davidson XR-750 (pictured), is the winningest motorcycle in the history of AMA Racing?

• reviewed Grant Speed ()

Created by Dennis Bratland (talk), Docob5 (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Messiah structure

• ... that Handel's oratorio Messiah is structured in three parts, aspects of the Christian Messiah entirely in Bible verses drawn mostly from the Old Testament?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed #Virgin and Child with Four Angels - comment: the article (supporting the Main article Messiah) consists mainly of tables, based on the scores and Wikisource, the text is mainly a summary of the tables, therefore at present only one inline citation, but that is a commented collection of sources. Could be detailed, if needed. - The pic is the title of the autograph, I guess it's not necessary to say pictured?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Otterburn Tower, Otterburn Hall

• ... that a door at Otterburn Tower still contains the initials of Jacobite rebel Mad Jack Hall, while nearby Otterburn Hall's land was recompense to the ancestor of Lord Douglas who died at the Battle of Otterburn?

• Comment: The hall article was created July 4, while the tower article was created July 5. While the hook is 210 characters, it contains 2 noms.

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Thomas Thynne (died 1639) and Sotir Kolea

Arreton Manor

• ... that Arreton Manor (pictured) on the Isle of Wight can be traced to 872 AD to the time of King Alfred the Great and was owned by William the Conqueror, as mentioned in the Domesday Book in 1086?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Added an img

• Rieviwed George Rowe (printmaker).--Nvvchar. 01:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Anraku-ji (Ueda)

• ... that the only extant octagonal pagoda in Japan (pictured) is located at Anraku-ji?

• Reviewed: List of colonial buildings and structures in Jakarta

Created by Bamse (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

First Lady of the World

• ... that the novel First Lady of the World is about the first female Secretary-General of the United Nations?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Flagmen of Lowestoft.- AnakngAraw (talk) 22:45, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the novel First Lady of the World is about the first woman to become Secretary-General of the United Nations? - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:57, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
• ALT2: ... that the First Lady of the World climaxes when the Millenium Moment is celebrated worldwide in 2000, as humanity enters a New Age? - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Philip Showalter Hench, Edward Calvin Kendall

• ... that Philip Hench and Edward Kendall are the only two Nobel Prize winners affiliated with Mayo Clinic?

• Reviewed: Like a Prayer (song)

5x expanded by Canada Hky (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Gray-crowned Rosy Finch

• ... that the Gray-crowned Rosy Finch may breed at a higher altitude than any other breeding bird in North America?

Created/expanded by BarkingMoon (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded (984-5383) BarkingMoon (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

reviewed: Jeff Mellinger BarkingMoon (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

All checks out, and no problem with using image. Moonraker (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135

• ... that in the opening chorus of Bach's cantata Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135, the bass sings the cantus firmus of a famous chorale melody?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: #Thomas Ford Chipp, Imatong Mountains, cantata for next Sunday, to appear between Saturday and the Friday after, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
• added a source, trying to simplify:

ALT1:... that bass voice and trombone carry the cantus firmus of a famous chorale melody in the opening chorus of Bach's cantata Ach Herr, mich armen Sünder, BWV 135? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Characteristic, but way too long: "This is a good example; scrupulously shaped and crafted, ranging over nearly three octaves and carried forward through jagged shapes whilst radiating an unprecedented vigour and all the time reflecting the imagery of the text." - the music is in the source, recommended. We might also express somehow that the cantata is #4 of a sequence of four cantatas in about two weeks, with the cantus firmus first in the soprano (for 11 June 1724), then in the alto (for 18 June), then in the tenor (for 24 June), now in the bass (for 25 June), - but I wouldn't know how. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• All systems go, Gerda, thanks for another fine article and interesting hook. Looking at your famous chorale melody, I notice that Paul Simon also used some of it in his American Tune. My ear is not good enough to say if he recognizably used the same bits as Bach, but putting Paul Simon into your hook with Bach might be worth looking at. Sharktopus 18:07, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you! Do you agree that ALT1 is more fluent? Thanks for the hint, next time. - This hook enjoyed the company of the high-breeding bird above ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

An Embarrassment of Riches

• ... that the author of An Embarrassment of Riches reimagined the Philippines as an island instead of an archipelago?

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 15:34, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• The article I reviewed, other than my own nomination, is Marimba Ani.- AnakngAraw (talk) 15:36, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Introduction of the Fußball-Bundesliga

• ... that, while the first official suggestion of a nationwide association football league in Germany was made in 1932, it was not introduced until 1963?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Three Emperors Dinner (right below). Calistemon (talk) 15:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Suggest changing also to something like while and intruduced to introduced Kindly Calmer Waters 19:27, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Done, thanks for the hint. Calistemon (talk) 01:06, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Burmese–Siamese War (1765–1767)

• ... that the Burmese–Siamese War (1765–1767) ended the four-century-old Ayutthaya Kingdom in 1767 but the Burmese were forced to withdraw within the year of their victory by the Chinese invasions of Burma?

Created by Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 01:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Wicklow Way. Hybernator (talk) 01:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• It's good, but the end of the kingdom should be cited as well. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:12, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Just updated with additional citations in the lead. Please review again. Hybernator (talk) 04:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

The Good-Morrow

• ... that John Donne's poem "The Good-Morrow" references seven sleeping children, cordiform maps and Paul the Apostle? Ironholds (talk) 01:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

  Reviewed Loaded Questions (game).

• Almost good to go, one minor issue: the hook pipes ] but the article does not, never using "Saint Paul of Tarsus". This could be confusing, please remove the pipe from the hook or add it to the article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed. Thanks for reviewing, Piotrus. Ironholds (talk) 20:40, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Siege of Wiener Neustadt

• ... that the Siege of Wiener Neustadt resulted in the occupation of the city by the Black Army of Hungary and marked the end of the Austro-Hungarian War, which meant the annexation of the western lands of Lower Austria, Styria and Carinthia to the Kingdom of Hungary?

Created by Lajbi (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 5

Siege of Retz

• ... that after the Siege of Retz, the Kingdom of Hungary occupied the city, leading to the growth of its wine industry?

• Comment: Hope to slightly use the Swahili rule since it's been less than 4 hours since July 11 in my time zone, and it's been less than 12 hours since July 11 started in UTC.

Created by Lajbi (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 10:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Messiah Part III

• ... that in Handel's oratorio Messiah, Part III closes with the chorus "Worthy is the Lamb" (pictured), on text from the Book of Revelation, and an extended Amen fugue?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: #Octagon Chapel, Liverpool --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:03, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Common Security and Defence Policy Service Medal

• ... that the reverse of the Common Security and Defence Policy Service Medal contains the latin phrase, Pro Pace Unum, meaning "United for Peace"?

• Reviewed: Charles A. Ray

Created by EricSerge (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Nickelodeon Fit

• ... that Nickelodeon Fit is a video game for the Nintendo Wii designed by its publishers to make children more physically active?

Created by TheLoverofLove (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 08:10, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Charles A. Ray

• ... that U.S. Ambassador to Zimbabwe Charles A. Ray (pictured) was the first person to serve as U.S. Consul General in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam?

Created by Life of Riley (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:28, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Citation for hook checks out, good to go. EricSerge (talk) 15:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Alpine (plantation)

• ... that the storehouse at Alpine Plantation in Alpine, Alabama was torn down so its timber could be used to build a carport?

Created by Altairisfar (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:24, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Octagon Chapel, Liverpool

• ... that the liturgy of the Octagon Chapel in Liverpool, England, was condemned as "little better than a deistical composition"?

Created by Charles Matthews (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:10, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• date and refs fine, length just enough. Please format the refs which are "bare urls", and find projects to mention on the discussion page. I see in the source: ""It is scarcely a Christian liturgy. In the collect the name of Christ is hardly mentioned; and the Spirit is quite banished from it." It was little better than a deistical composition." - I don't see "condemned" there, as I understand it, and confess to have no idea what "deistical" is, therefore propose to go (without England, clear by the link) to something like

ALT1: ... that a comment on the liturgy of the Octagon Chapel in Liverpool said: "... the Spirit is quite banished from it"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for the comments; I've done a fair bit more to the article now, to clarify what the debate about the liturgy amounted to. I suppose I can do the format things at some point. But you might want to look at the current state of the article. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:40, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you, good. I just don't see the line, which the original hook cites, within the quote of Ortin or Orton, and think the average reader can understand the quote of ALT1 better. What do you think about including the picture here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• It's not Ortin that is the source of the deistical composion. It's Buck's Theological Dictionary that says that. I guess "condemned" is a bit strong, so perhaps, "described" would work better. Also, it could be less confusing if we added a wikilink for deistical, so how about this ALT:
  ALT2: ... that the liturgy of the Octagon Chapel in Liverpool, England, was described as "little better than a deistical composition"? OCNative (talk) 09:37, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Better. But "was described" doesn't tell that it's an authority who says so, better name the Dictionary. "described" seems way to weak for the verdict. I still think "deistical" is an unattractive technical term, compared to the strong image of the "banished Spirit". Pipe link inserted, if you want to stick to it. Picture? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:03, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• The longer quote from Job Orton is in there now, if that is what you want. The indirect speech "deistical" comment from Buck's is in fact from Orton (online here). Charles Matthews (talk) 12:56, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• (Pic added, for the feeling of England at a glance. - Please format the bare urls eventually.) What do you think of making the quote even longer in the article? For something like

ALT2: ... that the nonconformist liturgy of the Octagon Chapel in Liverpool was criticized by Job Orton: "Grieved I am ... to see such an almost deistical composition"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Snowmastodon site

• ... that the Snowmastodon site, an Ice Age fossil dig near Denver, began because bulldozer driver Jesse Steele unearthed the bones of a mammoth (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Mini Hatch (2001–2006) ()

Created by Sharktopus (talk), Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 03:53, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• I think it'd be better to just leave out the date, since it isn't really relevant to the rest of the sentence. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)--Paul_012 (talk) 18:31, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I took your suggestion. I had the date in there originally because I thought it was interesting how recent this was. It's a fascinating article and I notice Obsidian Soul is still making it better as I type this! Sharktopus 15:16, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I think the date is interesting, although I don't think the bulldozer driver's name is necessary. I'd like to suggest this hook:

• ALT1: ... that the Snowmastodon site, an Ice Age fossil dig near Denver began when a bulldozer unearthed the bones of a mammoth (pictured) last year? —Bruce1ee 15:46, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Ready to insert that comma again, question: how does a site begin? (Learning English) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Heh, I just finished adding my final contributions to the article. :) I think 'discovered' is a better term than 'began'. Also shouldn't the species of mammoth be specified instead of being piped? It's a Columbian mammoth, while the term 'mammoth' for laymen usually refers to woolly mammoths which is another species.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 17:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Messiah Part I

• ... that the Annunciation to the Shepherds (pictured) in Handel's Messiah, Part I, is the only scene from a Gospel in the oratorio?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: Church of St. Nikolaus, Lockenhaus (in prep) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Frank Inglis

• ... that Air Vice-Marshal Frank Inglis was head of RAF Intelligence in 1942 and persuaded President Roosevelt to direct the main American war effort against Germany rather than Japan?

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

On Becoming Baby Wise

• ... that the parenting book On Becoming Baby Wise tells parents to put their infant down to sleep while he is awake?

• Reviewed: Classical compass winds ()
• Comment: DYK check returns a negative for 5x expansion, but this article is currently at 9952 characters of readable prose, expanded from 1743 characters as it stood on June 16. Five times 1743 is 8715, so clearly 9952 is beyond 5x. There were times in the past, for instance in February 2008, that the article was as large 36,183 characters, but those versions were copyright violations, text dumps of online articles, full of POV attacks, POV promotion, BLP concerns and unsupported statements. Since May 2008, the article has never been above 1830 characters. The current version is over 5x expansion and what I consider a fair representation of the topic.

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 22:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad

• ... that the main line of the Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad was damaged by three major storms in northwestern Oregon and was at last abandoned after the third storm because repairs cost nearly $60 million?

• Reviewed: Pete Gray (activist) ()

Created by Jsayre64 (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Note: By the way, this tool counted 2,321 characters in the article's prose, so the length should be good. Jsayre64 (talk) 00:07, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1: ... that the main line of the Port of Tillamook Bay Railroad was damaged by three storms in northwestern Oregon and was at last abandoned after the third storm because repairs cost nearly $60 million? The removal of major is to ensure that the hook doesn't exceed 200 characters. --Jsayre64 (talk) 17:06, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Britannia Coco-nut Dancers ‎

• ... that the Britannia Coco-nut Dancers bang their nuts together each Easter in Bacup?

Created by Colonel Warden (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• New. Length just reaching the required limit as checked by DYKCheck javascript. Adequately referenced. Assuming good faith on offline references. Available online refs indicate notability and genuineness.

• Please provide an inline citation to the hook fact, i.e.the exact line containing the fact about nuts being banged together, i.e. "These are tapped together like castanets as a percussive accompaniment to the dance." AshLin (talk) 04:48, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for reviewing. I have expanded on the banging of the nuts, adding a citation with quote. Warden (talk) 06:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• AshLin (talk) 07:20, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: The Fall of the City

Wayne Christian

• ... that Texas State Rep. Wayne Christian has worked on issues relating to the water level of Toledo Bend Reservoir on the Texas/Louisiana boundary?

ALT ... that Texas State Rep. Wayne Christian obtained passage of an amendment in 2009 which allowed him to rebuild his own beachfront property damaged by Hurricane Ike?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Platanthera holochila

The Teddy Bear Master

• ... that the independently-produced 2006 U.S. film The Teddy Bear Master was the subject of two separate lawsuits?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• All looks nice and ready to go! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• TheRetroGuy (talk · contribs) has more than 5 DYK credits. Peer review, please? --PFHLai (talk) 06:03, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

UAAP Season 74 basketball tournaments

• ... that Bobby Parks' son chose Manila's National University over Georgia Tech but was almost not cleared to play in the 74th UAAP basketball season due to eligibility issues?

• Comment: Suggested day: July 10 July 14

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Platanthera holochila.

Pierrepont School, Frensham

• ... that Pierrepont School, Frensham, occupied a listed English country house designed by Richard Norman Shaw?

• Reviewed: Gray-crowned Rosy Finch (diff)

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self nom at 02:15, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date of creation and sourcing checked out OK. The length (about 1,800 characters without block quote) is also adequate. Cbl62 (talk) 03:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Pete Gray (activist)

• ... that environmental activist Pete Gray initiated Australia's first legal action to restrict a coal-fired power station's greenhouse gas emissions, shortly before making headlines by publicly throwing his shoes at former Prime Minister John Howard?

• Reviewed: Heydar Aliyev Foundation ()

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Alternative hook: ... that environmental activist Pete Gray, who died of cancer six months after publicly throwing his shoes at former Prime Minister John Howard, obtained that his shoes be auctioned for the Red Cross? Aridd (talk) 17:42, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good. Nice job. --Jsayre64 (talk) 23:53, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

• I think this hook can be made much more attractive by focusing only on the shoe-throwing. The proposed ALT above is grammatically incorrect, with "obtained" in that context.

Proposed ALT: ... that environmental activist Pete Gray once threw his shoes at former Australian Prime Minister John Howard? Canada Hky (talk) 11:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I think it's a bit of a shame to focus solely on the shoe-throwing... My idea was to have a hook connecting that incident with something else. Many Australians, for instance, probably remember the shoe incident. What they may not know is that Gray had, prior to that, initiated a notable court case, or that he got his "famous" shoes to be put up for auction upon his death. Aridd (talk) 15:06, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I think a "hook" should be designed to catch people's attention and get them to click through to the article, rather than summarizing the topic. It allows people to get the information from reading the article, rather than trying to cram disparate facts into a single sentence. As someone who has never heard of this person - I'll click a link to see who the person is who threw the shoes - I don't care about a lawsuit filed by an environmentalist. Not all hooks can be made "interesting", but I don't think we should take the interesting ones and make them less so. Also - the hooks you proposed don't connect the incident to something else, they just cram info in, and dilute the focus. Canada Hky (talk) 23:16, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. There have been several shoe-throwers in recent years. I think what makes Gray interesting is that it's not the sole event that defines him. To me, your shortened hook makes him sound less interesting, and would give me somewhat less motivation to click on the link. But I'll go without whatever a majority of editors think is a better hook. (Incidentally, you forgot the word "former" in your abridged hook. That has to go in, or the sentence would be incorrect.) Aridd (talk) 16:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Inserted "former". I would wager that there have been more lawsuits filed by environmentalists, attempts at charity auctions or cancer deaths than there have been shoe throwers. I can think of the guy who threw a shoe at Bush, and this guy - who I hadn't heard of until I read the DYK. Canada Hky (talk) 23:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on July 6

Australia at the 1996 Summer Paralympics

• ... that disabled swimmer Priya Cooper won five gold medals for Australia at the 1996 Summer Paralympics?

Created by LauraHale (talk). Nominated by John Vandenberg (talk) at 10:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Note that Priya Cooper was also expanded from 657 characters (118 words) to 3714 characters (637 words), and the image is the first of an Australian paralypmian at a games, donated by the Australian Paralympic Committee. --John Vandenberg 10:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Quercus geminata

• ... that in its natural habitat, the Sand Live Oak Tree often grows on white sand?

Created by Lipsio (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:13, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Russian ironclad Pervenets

• ... that the Russian ironclad Pervenets was launched in the 1860s by the Imperial Russian Navy but was not scrapped by the Soviet Union until a century later during the 1960s?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Aburatorigami

• ... that aburatorigami is used in Japan to remove sweat and oil without harming makeup?

Created by BeautyGuru (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 06:39, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Sugar Museum (Berlin)

• ... that, according to Berlin's Sugar Museum, sugar beets helped to end slavery?

• Reviewed: Livingstone Museum ()

Created by Yngvadottir (talk), Sharktopus (talk). Nominated by Sharktopus (talk) at 21:23, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Didrik Thomas Johannes Schnitler

• ... that Norwegian military historian Didrik Thomas Johannes Schnitler was member of several military commissions in the late 1800s?

• Reviewed: Owais Ahmed ()

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Andrew Pataki

• ... that despite the customary practice of Catholic bishops tendering their resignations when they turn 75, Andrew Pataki's retirement was not accepted by the Pope until after he turned 80?

• Reviewed: Ikotos County ()

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 17:11, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Length and date check out, as does the hook fact. Good to go! Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Selman Riza

• ... that Selman Riza's 1952 work on Serbo-Croatian grammar is regarded as a work of contrastive analysis, although the theory was formulated five years later by Robert Lado?

• Reviewed: Constituencies for French residents overseas ()

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I added the word "grammar" which appeared to be missing from the hook. This mirrors what the article says. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Ikotos County

• ... that automatic AK-47 rifles were used in 42% of killings in Ikotos County in 2009?

• Reviewed: Great Budbridge Manor ()

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and cited hook all check out. Nice job. — AJDS 17:06, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Linked AK-47. Manxruler (talk) 17:44, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Asterotrygon

• ... that a small fetus is preserved in the holotype fossil of the extinct stingray Asterotrygon (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Sempervivum tectorum ()

Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Article length & date, hook length and fact verified. Image is cc-by-sa 3.0. Sasata (talk) 16:40, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Sempervivum tectorum

• ... that many people still plant Sempervivum tectorum (Jove's beard) on the roofs of houses, as Charlemagne recommended?

• Reviewed: Reinhold and Ruth Benesch ()

5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Nominated by Sharktopus (talk) at 01:41, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date of expansion, source, and hook are all good. The second ellipsis in the hook doesn't seem necessary though. Smokeybjb (talk) 04:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I changed second ellipsis to a comma, which it probably should have been in the first place. Sharktopus 13:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Great Budbridge Manor

• ... that fish ponds at the Great Budbridge Manor on the Isle of Wight appear medieval?

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 22:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Sebuku (Sumatra).--Nvvchar. 01:04, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Morris Dam

• ... that the reservoir of Morris Dam in Los Angeles County, California was used as a testing site for torpedoes and underwater missiles beginning in World War II?

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good, though I would suggest using this picture instead with a clearer view of the dam, especially at the smaller size. Gamaliel (talk) 20:04, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

George T. Walker

• ... that enrollment at the University of Louisiana at Monroe grew nearly five-fold between 1958 and 1976 during the tenure of its president, George T. Walker?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Tornadoes in New England

Length, hook fact, and date check out. However, is the list of his siblings (complete with birth and death dates) really necessary? Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Correction made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 10:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, good to go. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:35, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

John Michael Kudrick

• ... that John Michael Kudrick, the current bishop of the Byzantine Catholic Eparchy of Parma, holds master's degrees in mathematics and computer and information science?

• Reviewed: Lee Corner ()

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Jacques Seligmann & Company

• ... that art dealer Jacques Seligmann & Company sold Portrait of a Young Woman (pictured) by Johannes Vermeer for over a quarter million dollars in 1951?

• Reviewed: Puddington Old Hall

Created/expanded by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir

• ... that Martin Luther's chorale Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir (From deep affliction I cry out to you) was sung at his own funeral?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed: Albert Jewell who disappeared, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:46, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Operation Anti-Security

• ... that on 20 June 2011 the hacking groups Anonymous and LulzSec announced that they were joining forces for Operation Anti-Security?

• Reviewed: John Chase (doctor and soldier) ()

Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good stuff! Length, date and hook all fine. Why not use the image? Would make a good lead article. 100x100px Paul Bedson ❉talk❉ 00:55, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Because we can't use fair-use images on the main page, or indeed here, so I've changed the image to a link. --Bencherlite 12:36, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Sebuku (Sumatra)

• ... that some ant species on Sebuku island may be descended from survivors of the 1883 eruption of Krakatoa?

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:39, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Review to follow.

Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:39, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Elizabeth Maitland, Duchess of Lauderdale (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:59, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Checked for DYK criteria. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 01:00, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

ASK Voitsberg

• ... that football club ASK Voitsberg was forced to change both its name and team colours during the annexation of Austria into Nazi Germany?

Created by Deserter1 (talk). Self nom at 13:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• While I accept that the club may well have been "forced" to change its name and colours, the article does not precisely say that, and I cannot confirm it from the foreign language links. Would you be prepared to go with:

• ALT1 ... that football club ASK Voitsberg changed both its name and team colours during the annexation of Austria into Nazi Germany? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:58, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that would be absolutely fine. For information, reference number 3 is to a short piece on the team's history from the official club website (in German). This includes the sentence "In den Jahren von 1938 bis 1945 wurde der Verein von den Nationalsozialisten von ASK Voitsberg in Grün-Weiß-Krems umbenannt" - which translates as: "In the years 1938 to 1945, the club was renamed by the Nazis from ASK Voitsberg into Grün-Weiß-Krems." Although the context indicates the change was not made willingly, I accept it is perhaps a slight leap to use the word 'forced' (as an aside, although I have a good idea, I was unable to find a source that confirmed what the Nazis objected to, which would have been more interesting). Many thanks for the review. Deserter1 16:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

for ALT1. DYK criteria met; foreign language source AGF. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I checked the German source; the translation given here is not correct but should read "In the years 1938 to 1945, the club was renamed by the Nazis from ASK Voitsberg into Grün-Weiß-Krems." (strike-out to emphasise the difference) Neither of the two sources gives a reason for renaming, and the connection to German annexation is thus a synthesis. So I would prefer to have the hook claim removed from the article. As we do not know whether the change was forced or not, or done by the club or by the occupying administration, I would prefer something like:

• ALT 2:... that during German annexation of Austria football club ASK Voitsberg played both under different colors and a different name? --Pgallert (talk) 21:11, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

HMCS Galt (K163)

• ... that HMCS Galt, a Flower-class corvette of the Royal Canadian Navy, escorted trade convoys during the Battle of the Atlantic?

Created by Thewellman (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:00, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

All checks out. I took the liberty of adding "HMCS" to the hook, which I hope is an improvement. Moonraker (talk) 04:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Metro, Indonesia

• ... that Metro means friendship?

5x expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 08:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Review to follow.

• Reviewed Kathleen Cody (actor) (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:16, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: "... that Metro has fewer than 150,000 residents?

Feels good to be back

Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length and dates check out. But both the hooks are not supported by sources. _morelMW 14:44, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
  • I have added an extra in-line citation next to the Metro coming from the Javanese mitro. If you are worried about the difference between friend and friendship, we can use ALT2 "... that Metro means friend?"
  • As for the population, it is cited directly to the Lampung Province's statistics bureau. If you are worried about it being in Indonesian, that would warrant an AGF check-mark (i.e. {{subst:DYKtickAGF}}, not a refusal like you have used. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
• As a side note, would this be more grammatically correct?

ALT3 "... that Metro means 'friendship'?"

ALT4 "... that Metro means 'friend'?"

If I remember Linguistics 101 correctly, the word is italicized and the meaning is in between single quotation marks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I assume the reference for the first hook is offline and for the second hook it is in Indonesian. ALT1 is fine. _morelMW 15:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• I have fixed the harvnb template that was causing trouble. To be honest, I prefer either the original or ALT2, so (if it's not too much to ask) could some other editors weigh in on the choice of hook? All of them are hooky enough, and all of them play off of our expectations when we read the word Metro (an abbreviation for metropolitan vs. mitro (friend) Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Scott Lipsky

• ... that tennis player Scott Lipsky (pictured), winner of the 2011 French Open Mixed Doubles Championship , was ranked # 1 in the U.S. Juniors in both singles and doubles in 1995?

Expanded 5x by/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 05:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Aya Sameshima

Checks out Thelmadatter (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

The Fall of the City

• ... that the radio play The Fall of the City is the first verse drama written for radio?

Created by Flowerpotman (talk). Nominated by Kosboot (talk) at 17:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• The claim of being first needs qualification. For example, Bridson's March of the 45 was broadcast in 1936 — a year earlier. The Handbook of Radio Drama Techniques says that Fall of the City was "America's first poetic drama for radio". If it was just an American first, we should make this clearer. Warden (talk) 11:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 7

Representational momentum

• ... that Representational momentum refers to a slight error in our perception of moving objects?

Created by Greta Munger (talk). Self nom at 14:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

East India Film Company

• ... that the East India Film Company, formed in 1932, was a pioneer in the production of films in Bengali, Hindi, Tamil, and Telugu?

Created by Manu3780 (talk), Ekabhishek (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 11:21, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Jacopo Inghirami

• ... that Tuscan Admiral Jacopo Inghirami was Governor of Livorno?

Created by Guliolopez (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 10:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

All Saints' Church, Newchurch

• ... that while William FitzOsbern gave All Saints' Church (pictured) of Newchurch, Isle of Wight to an abbey in Normandy, Henry VIII gave it to the See of Bristol?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 21:40, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

2011 Asian Athletics Championships – Women's long jump

• ... that in 2011 Asian Athletics Championships, Mayookha Johny became only the second athlete from India (after Anju Bobby George in 2005) to win gold medal in the long jump event?

• ALT1:... that Mayookha Johny is the second only Indian athlete who has won gold medal in the long jump event of Asian Athletics Championships?

Created by Bill william compton (talk). Self nom at 13:28, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Maupin Carbon Dragon

• ... that the Maupin Carbon Dragon has a 44 ft (13 m) wing span but weighs only 145 lb (66 kg)?

Created by Ahunt (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

HMCS Eyebright (K150)

• ... that the HMCS Eyebright was a Flower-class corvette named after the Euphrasia genus of medicinal flowering plants?

Created by Thewellman (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 04:20, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Joan Berkowitz

• ... that chemist Joan Berkowitz made important discoveries in the fields of spacecraft construction and pollution control?

• Reviewed: Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 15:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal

• ... that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal was the first honour created specifically for Canada?

• Looks good. The picture of the medal can't be used for the front page, but perhaps the CC picture of the ribbon? Gamaliel (talk) 15:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by EricSerge (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Andreas Samuel Krebs EricSerge (talk) 10:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Hollis Downs

• ... that retiring Louisiana State Rep. Hollis Downs failed in his attempt in 2011 to raise college tuition rates to offset budget cuts in higher education?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:44, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Peter Voss

Pangani Longclaw

• ... that the Pangani Longclaw is only 20 cm (7.9 in) long?

• Reviewed: Polygala lewtonii

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Hook verified, article is ready and confirmed 5x expanded at date per DYKcheck! Rcej (Robert) – talk 08:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Polygala lewtonii

• ... that the rare and endangered Lewton's polygala (pictured) produces three types of flowers, including one that remains underground?

• Reviewed: Robert W. Glover
• Comment: hook is on page 6 of the ref

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• date, size and hook check out. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Peter Voss

• ... that SS-Oberscharführer Peter Voss was the first commander of the Auschwitz crematoria and gas chambers, buildings used to kill 900,000 people?

5x expanded by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Robertsbridge United Reformed Church

• ... that the design of Robertsbridge United Reformed Church (pictured) in England as been described as "truly horrible" and "most dissolute"?

• Reviewed: Museum of Broken Relationships (Diff)

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 20:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Ramsdell Hall

• ... that Ramsdell Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, has been described by architectural writers as "a curious house", and as "an appealingly quirky house"?

• ALT1:... that Ramsdell Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, contains an octagonal dining room, a hexagonal hall, and a drawing room with a Rococo ceiling?
• Reviewed: ASK Voitsberg

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good, one book source confirmed. One slight suggestion if more space is needed: "...described by architectural writers as a "curious" and "appealingly quirky" house"?--NortyNort (Holla) 09:36, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Brett Geymann

• ... that Louisiana State Rep. Brett Geymann once sought a legislative remedy for crawfish being pushed into neighboring ditches because of rising waters?

ALT ... that Louisiana State Rep. Brett Geymann of Lake Charles authored a rule in 2011 which prevents his state from using one-time money to balance the budget?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Benito Juárez, D.F.

Benito Juárez, D.F.

• ... that the Benito Juárez borough of Mexico City has been ranked as having the highest standard of living in Mexico?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• REVIEWED Scott Lipsky Thelmadatter (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Versailles Research Centre

• ... that the Palace of Versailles Research Centre gives access to the collections, archives and documentation at the Palace of Versailles?

Created by Whiteghost.ink (talk). Self nom at 05:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Moved from July 14 (Bastille Day) holding area for review. Article relies entirely on the organization's website for sourcing. Also, this is a very mundane hook; I think something more interesting/unusual is needed. cmadler (talk) 13:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I've renamed the article with a more accurate name. Trizek 17:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that the hook is not interesting enough. May I suggest "... that research carried out by the Palace of Versailles Research Centre is carried out in the Jussieu Pavilion, a building once occupied by Bernard de Jussieu, a member of the family of famous botanists and historians of the natural world, after whom the Paris metro station Jussieu was named." I think it would be good to have the article as a DYK on Bastille Day. Whiteghost.ink 02:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Really better, I think ! Trizek 08:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

That hook suggestion is way too long. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:38, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Edward Baigent

• ... that Edward Baigent, later a New Zealand Member of Parliament, reputedly slept under the 'Baigent sleeping tree', a large tōtara near Wakefield, when he first came to the area?

• Reviewed: Elections in Pichilemu (diff)
• Comment: The review is from some time ago.

5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 05:45, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• I've just added to the article the interesting fact that the school set up by his wife is these days the oldest continuously operating school in New Zealand. It's referenced to the school's website, but I haven't been able to find an independent source for this claim as yet. If I do (or somebody else does), it would make a more interesting hook fact. Schwede66 05:00, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Ok, found an independent source. Schwede66 05:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1... that the school started in 1843 by Edward Baigent's wife at their home in Wakefield is today New Zealand's oldest public school?

Thomas Thynne (died 1639)

• ... that the hasty marriage of Thomas Thynne of Longleat (pictured) may have helped to inspire Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet?

• Reviewed: HMCS Galt (K163) (diff)

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self nom at 04:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref approved AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:54, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• I don't think including the picture in the DYK is a good idea; it's not very relevant and it also lends itself to the misreading "Thomas Thynne of Longleat" (pictured), where Thynne is rather grayscale and rectangular. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:38, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 8

Jeriome Robertson

• ... that in his only full Major League Baseball season, Jeriome Robertson won 15 games and finished seventh in Rookie of the Year voting?

• Reviewed: Shotwick Hall ()

5x expanded by Wizardman (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Our Culture, What's Left of It: The Mandarins and the Masses

• ... that Theodore Dalrymple's book Our Culture, What's Left of It describes British culture as a "moral swamp"?

Created by ItCanHappen (talk). Nominated by Leszek Jańczuk (talk) at 23:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• All checks out! Nice hook --NickDupree (talk) 00:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Shinyo Maru Incident

• ... that the World War II commander of the Japanese tanker SS Shinyo Maru (pictured) told POWs held on his ship that he would order the guards to kill them if the Allies fired upon the ship?

Created by $1LENCE D00600D (talk). Nominated by OCNative (talk) at 12:27, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

James Ronald Leslie Macdonald

• ... that General Sir James Ronald Leslie Macdonald was an army balloon photographer who later served in India, Uganda, Sudan, South Africa, China and led a major expedition into Tibet?

• Reviewed: Far Eastern Party ()
• Comment: Any ideas for a better tag welcome.

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 01:50, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Siege of Hainburg

• ... that the overall cost for taking the town in Siege of Hainburg (pictured) was 200.000 florins for the Hungarian King?

Created by Lajbi (talk). Nominated by Leszek Jańczuk (talk) at 01:26, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Death of Michael Gilbert

• ... that Michael Gilbert was for years kept as a slave and regularly beaten by a family who eventually murdered him?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 22:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Far Eastern Party

• ... that Douglas Mawson (pictured) was the sole survivor of the Far Eastern Party, enduring a month alone in the Antarctic and walking about 100 miles (160 km) to safety?

• Reviewed: Punchiná Dam ()

Created by Apterygial (talk). Self nom at 08:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, for sure. Aymatth2 (talk) 01:39, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Chuck Kleckley

• ... that Louisiana State Rep. Chuck Kleckley has been instrumental in broadening the functions of the Lake Charles Harbor and Terminal District?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Joe Ebanks

Owais Ahmed

• ... that all five of Owais Ahmed's in the money finishes at the 2011 World Series of Poker were in Mixed poker games?

• Reviewed: Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, Quincy Adams Shaw

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date and size fine. Hook fact cited in article, verified. Oceanh (talk) 19:31, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Joe Ebanks

• ... that Joe Ebanks has on multiple occasions won two large multitable online poker tournaments in the same day?

• Reviewed: Louis Agassiz Shaw Junior, Quincy Adams Shaw

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:43, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act

• ... that the District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act freed slaves in Washington, D.C. almost nine months before the passage of the Emancipation Proclamation?

• Reviewed: Martin Wines ()

Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 01:00, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• I apologize for the tardiness, but if at all possible, I hope this could be featured on July 12 (preferably in midday UTC) for Misplaced Pages:GLAM/NARA/Today's Document challenge as well as because one part of the article has significance to that date. Thanks, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:03, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date and size fine, hook cited in article and verified in online reference. Oceanh (talk) 17:32, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thomas G. Carmody

• ... that the Louisiana State Rep. Thomas G. Carmody obtained passage in 2009 of a bill strengthening penalities for the crime of indecent behavior with juveniles?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Mureybet

Mureybet

• ... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria believed to have been occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 B.C.?

• Reviewed: Iraq ed-Dubb ()

5x expanded by Zoeperkoe (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing my hook. However, you changed it without notifying me, or even posting a note here. Could you maybe indicate why you think this wording is better than the original (which I think is more correct), which reads: "... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria that was occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 BC?" Note that you have also changed BC to B.C., even though BC is correct per wp:mos. Thanks! --Zoeperkoe (talk) 23:50, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

:Didn't know that BC is correct instead of B.C. When one goes back that far in time, it seems best to say "believed" because of inherent speculation. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:16, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

BC or B.C. may refer to:

Before Christ, an epoch Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:17, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

If you think it's both allowed (even though wp:mos uses BC and not B.C.), then why change it at all? Furthermore, there is no speculation or believe in radiocarbon dates; it's science. I'm sorry, I still think that the hook I provided is more correct. I would like to see another editor's opinion on this.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 03:31, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Just for clarity, I'll add the original hook as

ALT1: ... that Mureybet was a village in modern-day Syria that was occupied between 10,200 and 8,000 BC? --Zoeperkoe (talk) 04:12, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Alan Seabaugh

• ... that because of a lack of support, Louisiana State Rep. Alan Seabaugh was compelled in 2011 to withdraw his bill requiring presidential candidates to show proof of U.S. citizenship?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Nasi kucing

Needs more citations. Entire paragraphs are uncited, and there is also information in paragraphs that do have citations that does not appear in the citations. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Shrigley Hall

• ... that Shrigley Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, originally a country house, was later a school, and now is a hotel and country club?

• Reviewed: Robert Mulka

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date, size, hook and internet sources confirmed.Aloysius (talk) 19:59, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the 19th century Shrigley Hall (pictured) Cheshire, England, originally a country house, was later a Salesian school with a chapel added in 1936 , and now is a hotel and country club?

TH1RT3EN (album)

• ... that after the occurrence of several odd incidents during the recording for Megadeth's TH1RT3EN, guitarist/vocalist Dave Mustaine speculated about a connection with the unlucky number 13?

Created by L1A1 FAL (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Mark Mendelblatt

• ... that American yachtsman Mark Mendelblatt, silver medalist at the 2004 Laser World Championships, won the International Optimist Dinghy National Sailing Championships when he was 11 years old?

Created by/self-nom ----Epeefleche (talk) 19:58, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Peterborough Centre

Peterborough Centre

• ... that damage from the February 2011 Christchurch earthquake at the Peterborough Centre (pictured) is estimated at NZ$12m, only NZ$0.3m less than the insured value of this historic building?

• Reviewed: Franciscan monastery of Saint Luke, Jajce (diff)
• Comment: Moved into mainspace earlier today. The review is from a wee while back.

Created by Schwede66 (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Robert Mulka

• ... that despite overseeing the construction of the crematoria and gas chambers at Auschwitz, what specifically shocked SS-Obersturmführer Robert Mulka at the camp was his colleagues' dress sense?

• Reviewed: Mary Deros ()

Created by WilliamH (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook OK. Offline and foreign language refs AGF. Nice hook! --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Nasi kucing

• ... that the Javanese eat cat rice?

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Quiet Birdmen (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:15, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Indonesians eat cat rice?

(In case the information needs to be more explicit in the article) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know who changed the original hook, but I am returning the original to my suggestion and adding the change as ALT2 "... that the Javanese eat cat rice, named for its small portion size?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

To note, I prefer the original or ALT1 in a pinch. The etymology of the name makes it less hooky, I think. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Shotwick Hall

• ... that Shotwick Hall (pictured) in Cheshire, England, was built in 1662, replacing an earlier manor house on a nearby moated site?

• Reviewed: Molwyn Joseph

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Everything checks out. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Mary Deros

• ... that in 2007 politician Mary Deros of Montreal helped prevent an historic city avenue from being renamed after Robert Bourassa, a former Quebec premier?

Created by CJCurrie (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 08:06, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Looking good. WilliamH (talk) 15:21, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Operation Slapstick

• ... that Operation Slapstick, part of the Allied invasion of Italy, was only planned after the Italians had offered to let them land unopposed?

Self nom and x5 expansion by Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• reviewed Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones below

• 6.4× expansion...offline ref AGF'd. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​ 01:02, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Operation Slapstick, part of the Allied invasion of Italy, was only planned after the Italians had offered to let the British 1st Airborne Division land unopposed? Ericoides (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion but its not accurate as they did not mention any division by name.Jim Sweeney (talk) 21:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones

• ... that from 1936 to 1977, Ralph Waldo Emerson Jones was both president and head baseball coach of historically black Grambling State University in Louisiana?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:14, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Robertsbridge United Reformed Church

Date and length are OK but at present the article is only a stub and not eligible for DYK. Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It's 8,142 bytes; normally an article with 5,000 bytes is sufficiently long for DYK. How much longer must it be; I don't have any additional information at this time. I have never heard of a length beyond 5,000 bytes required. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Charles Franklin Hildebrand was approved for DYK this week with 5,110 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Mayhew Foster was recently approved with 6,200 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:42, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

good to go now. The format was the problem no lede or any sections. Just one continuous block of text. By the way only characters count towards DYK not byte size. Its 3790 characters (626 words). Jim Sweeney (talk) 13:00, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it's now 10,000 bytes. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:59, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Furtivos

• ... that the Spanish film Furtivos (Poachers) won best picture at the San Sebastián International Film Festival in 1975?

Created by Miguelemejia (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• ; looks kosher. Nice hook! Ironholds (talk) 01:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Ganga Rail-Road Bridge

• ... that one person was killed in police firing during disturbances in connection with the site selection of Ganga Rail-Road Bridge in India?

Created by Chandan Guha (talk). Self nom at 00:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Jezhotwells (talk) 02:05, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Size OK. Hook supported by reference but would be better rephrased as per below:

Alt1: ... that one person was killed by police during disturbances occasioned by the site selection of the Ganga Rail-Road Bridge in India? Jezhotwells (talk) 02:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Okay with me. Thanks. - Chandan Guha (talk) 02:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Molwyn Joseph

• ... that Antiguan politician Molwyn Joseph, dismissed from the government after allegations of impropriety, was reappointed to the Cabinet after less than two years?

  Reviewed Furtivos. Ironholds (talk) 01:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• All DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:06, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Pretty sure that few people will know what Antigua is, so I linked to Antigua and Barbuda. Manxruler (talk) 11:26, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Brittany Pierce

• ... that the writers of the television show Glee use cheerleader Brittany Pierce to say things none of the other characters would?

HorrorFan121 (talk) 01:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Linked the show for you. Manxruler (talk) 08:53, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Is the following quote the support for the hook above? "I think they have a lot of fun doing it too, that's why they do it, because they think it's just so funny to have my character say the things that I say that nobody else would. They decided that this girl is going to be literally insane and she's going to say anything she wants to." If so I think you are bending the meaning a bit.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:00, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Performance psychology

• ... that performance psychology has been evolving for years from various segments of applied psychology, one should analyze the mental and physical effects involved and take proper measures to manage it well for a tangible benefit?

Created by WheelsDudley (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• Can you kindly put the hook's message across in a shorter and concise format? Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

This has not been expanded 5x. Sorry. If you can then, will be reviewed again by me or another editor. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 9

Simon Kooper

• ... that Nama leader Simon Kooper received an annual allowance for not continuing his attacks on Imperial Germany's forces in German South-West Africa?

• Reviewed: ASK Voitsberg ()

Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 21:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

United Nations Honour Flag

• ... that the United Nations Honour Flag was designed as a symbol of the Allies of World War II at the suggestion of Winston Churchill?

• Reviewed: Brittany Pierce

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 07:34, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Economy of South Sudan

• ... that the Economy of South Sudan before the country's independence from Sudan in 2011 was highly reliant on its producing of 85% of Sudanese oil output?--BabbaQ (talk) 13:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• I fixed some typos: the countries -> the country's and relying -> reliant. Manxruler (talk) 17:28, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Adrian van Kaam

• ... that Adrian van Kaam brought food to Jews and others in hiding during Holland's "hunger winter" of 1944?

• Reviewed: Georg Ræder ()

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Georg Ræder

• ... that Georg Ræder played a central role in the planning and construction of the first public railway line in Norway?

• Reviewed: District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act ()

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 17:43, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Article size (2326 chars.), creation date, and cited hook all check out. — AJDS 18:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Dixie Brown

• ... that blinded Bristol boxer Dixie Brown was visited during World War II by black American soldiers as they respected him as "a much admired character"?

• Reviewed: Vittore Grubicy de Dragon (diff)

Created by Jezhotwells (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Bristol boxer Dixie Brown was born in Saint Lucia and worked on the construction of the Panama Canal before emigrating to Britain in 1922? Jezhotwells (talk) 15:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Mochtar Lubis, Jalan Tak Ada Ujung, Indonesia Raya (newspaper), Harimau! Harimau!, Senja di Jakarta

• ... that Indonesian "renaissance man" Mochtar Lubis, co-founder of the daily Indonesia Raya, wrote novels regarding superstition, corruption, and erectile dysfunction?

Created/expanded by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Mochtar Lubis is a 5x expansion. The rest are new. Reviews to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Reviews: The Ride to Conquer Cancer (diff), Jan Claudius de Cock (diff), Battle of La Flor, Battle of Las Cruces (1928) (diff), Majority Judgment (diff), and Clemenstone (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:25, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Vittore Grubicy de Dragon

Painter Vittore Grubicy de Dragon (1851-1920)

• ... that painter Vittore Grubicy de Dragon (pictured) was largely responsible for introducing theories that led to Divisionism in Italian painting?

Created by Lexaxis7 (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 09:10, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• Size is OK, article created 9 July, hook reference is off-line book, I assume good faith. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:31, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Tower of Jericho

• ... that the shadow of nearby mountains first hit the Tower of Jericho (pictured) on the sunset of the summer solstice and then spread across the entire proto-city in c. 8000 BCE?

• Reviewed: Operation Anti-Security

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Date and length check out. Hook length, fact, and reference check out. Good to go. -AndrewDressel (talk) 09:59, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Jersey Bridge

• ... that when the Jersey Bridge (pictured) was replaced, the only way for tourists to visit the Drake Well Museum was by train?

• Reviewed: Operation Slapstick ()

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 01:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• It is OK, but perhaps another hook

ALT1 ... that the Jersey Bridge (pictured) was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1988? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

World Bicycle Relief

• ... that World Bicycle Relief has distributed more than 70,000 bicycles, mostly in Africa, and nearly 70 percent of them went to women and girls?

• Reviewed: Tower of Jericho ()

5x expanded by Condor1022 (talk). Nominated by AndrewDressel (talk) at 10:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 10

Benedikt Rejt

• ... that Benedikt Rejt rebuilt parts of Prague Castle and completed St. Barbara's Church in Kutná Hora (pictured) in the beginning of the 16th century?

5x expanded by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 19:39, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Shrigley Hall

Ricky Templet

• ... that Louisiana State Rep. Ricky Templet remained behind in 2005 to help law-enforcement groups fight Hurricane Katrina?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT... that Louisiana State Rep. Ricky Templet is a graduate of the same high school in Jefferson Parish in which his wife is the current principal?

Reviewed: Turban Head eagle

Turban Head eagle

• ... that on the Turban Head eagle, Liberty actually wears a cap, though it is disputed whether a Liberty cap was intended?

• Reviewed: Music of Neir ()

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 23:21, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:13, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

International Broadcasting Bureau Greenville Transmitting Station

• ... that the International Broadcasting Bureau Greenville Transmitting Station located in Greenville, North Carolina were the most powerful international broadcaster in the world?

Created by PGPirate (talk). Self nom at 19:43, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Music of Nier

• ... that the vocals in the music of Nier are sung in versions of French, English and Japanese after 1000 years of language drift?

• Reviewed: Chris Moorman (])
• Comment: Pulled out of my sandbox today

Created by PresN (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• --Wehwalt (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

NCAA Season 87 basketball tournaments

• ... that the University of Perpetual Help announced that it will not field in a basketball player in the 87th NCAA season despite being cleared to play?

• ALT1:In an effort to go green, the ticketing system used for 87th NCAA basketball season uses less paper?
• Comment: The second and third paragraphs of the "Preseason" section were lifted from NCAA Season 87, an earlier DYK. The added prose is more than 1,600 characters.

5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 16:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Table Mountain Wilderness. –HTD 16:41, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Sebuku (Borneo)

• ... that environmentalists fear that the mine on Sebuku Island could sink it?

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 15:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• Review to follow. Please note that this one is near Borneo; the above Sebuku is near Sumatra. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Reviewed: 2011 royal tour of Canada (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:41, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
• Length good, and reference checks out. Good to go. FloNight♥♥♥♥ 10:16, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Table Mountain Wilderness

• ... that the second largest elk taken in North America in the 20th century was taken at Table Mountain Wilderness?

5x expanded by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

my first DYK, pls let me know if there's an issue. PumpkinSky (talk) 13:18, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Either this falls as an expansion or new article, as the old version was just 2 sentences. However, is austinnevada.com a reliable source? Can you fetch a better one like from the Natural Parks Service or from a local paper? –HTD 16:39, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

It's the city of Austin, NV Chamber of Commerce. The other info I've found there matches what I saw elsewhere. But that site is the only source I found mentioning this fact. There are several that this elk herd was reintroduced in 1979 and is doing well. So if the 2nd largest fact doesn't fly, we could use the reintroduction or choose a third fact. PumpkinSky (talk) 16:54, 10 July 2011 (UTC).....Have added two sentences and two refs about the elk reintroduction.PumpkinSky (talk) 17:07, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm giving you the liberty to get a new hook, but I liked this one if you can get better sourcing. –HTD 17:09, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

OPTIONAL FACT that although elk had disappeared from the Table Mountain Wilderness, they were reintroduced in 1979 and that is now one of the largest herds in Nevada? PumpkinSky (talk) 17:12, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

This should be good to go, as one of those who maintain wilderness.net is the University of Montana, which should be good enough. –HTD 17:16, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Indonesia Maharddhika, Guruh Gipsy

• ... that the song "Indonesia Maharddhika" from the critically-acclaimed album Guruh Gipsy has the names of the contributors hidden in its lyrics?

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 08:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviews to follow. Please note that I am in the middle of looking for a Balinese-Indonesian or Balinese-English translator. Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: The Captive (painting) (diff) and Collins H. Johnston (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I. K. Cross

• ... that the American Baptist Association clergyman and author I. K. Cross argues that Baptists are not Protestants?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

• We'll have to wait with the DYK process until the article has survived the AFD. Schwede66 05:00, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Keren Leibovitch

Keren Leibovitch

• ... that Keren Leibovitch, Israeli four-time gold medal winning Paralympic swimmer, is paralyzed from the waist down because of an injury she incurred during her service with the Israeli Defense Forces?

Created by/self-nom --Epeefleche (talk) 04:24, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: Adrian van Kaam

Billy Hathorn (talk) 05:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Expedition of Usama bin Zayd

• ... that Muhammad died on 8 June 632, a day after he ordered the Expedition of Usama bin Zayd?

Created by User:Misconceptions2 (talk). Self nom at 00:11, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure if it is suitable to call the "Expedition of Usama bin Zayd", the "Invasion of Palestine", like this invasion of Palestine. But still linking to the Expedition of Usama bin Zayd? Any suggestions?--Misconceptions2 (talk) 00:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 11

Kapellbrücke

• ... that Europe's oldest wooden footbridge, the Kapellbrücke, stood for more than 600 years before being almost destroyed by a 1993 fire?

Created/expanded by DDima (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Drashovica

• ... that during the Battle of Drashovica over 3000 German soldiers died, more than 200 of which inside the barracks of Drashovicë ?

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Self nom at 21:02, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Inocybe goodeyi

• ... that consumption of the poisonous mushroom Inocybe godeyi (pictured) could lead to salivation, tears, urination, defecation, gastrointestinal pain and vomiting?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 18:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Fort Peck Lake. J Milburn (talk) 18:27, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Bob Hensgens

• ... that when he was a small town mayor, Louisiana State Rep. Bob Hensgens cut his pay to provide raises to police officers?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 15:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT:... that Louisiana State Rep. Bob Hensgens once paid part of the filing fee for his opponent?

Reviewed Anna Eliot Ticknor

A number of problems here.

1. Sourcing is poor. What is JMC Enterprises ("Win with JMC") and why are they a reliable source? What is "Tea Party Cheer" and how do we know that they are accurately reprinting the Tea Party of Louisiana press release? Can you find a better source than an unauthenticated personal Facebook page which supposedly belongs to the subject? "Louisiana Secretary of State, Legislative Special Election, April 30, 2011" is not a citation that allows readers to find this information.
2. Article needs cleanup to keep it focused. Irrelevant information (such as "In 1964, the first two Republicans since Reconstruction took their seats in the lower chamber of the Louisiana Legislature, having represented Caddo Parish in far northwestern Louisiana. The GOP now has a majority of the seats in the chamber" and the end of Dupuis's term) need to be removed and lengthy quotes cut down.

This article could well be suitable for DYK, but these problems must be addressed first. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:19, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Also, we need a better source for the statement in the hook that Hensgens cut his pay to give police officers a pay raise - a press release from the Tea Party won't do, we need a newspaper or perhaps a government document. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:28, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Gugur Bunga

• ... that Ismail Marzuki's 1945 song "Gugur Bunga di Taman Bakti" was written to honor the Indonesian casualties of the Indonesian National Revolution?

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Review to follow. Could we save this for 17 August (Indonesia's independence day)? Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
• Reviewed: Andrew Pataki (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:01, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Anna Eliot Ticknor

• ... Bostonian Anna Eliot Ticknor is the "mother" of correspondence schools in the United States?

Created by User:FloNight (talk). Self nom at 09:46, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• • Reviewed Sebuku (Borneo) FloNight♥♥♥♥ 10:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Erwin Gutawa

• ... that despite holding a degree in architecture, Erwin Gutawa became a composer and conductor?

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 07:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Erwin Gutawa, father of Gita Gutawa, worked as a conductor at the London Symphony Orchestra in 2005?

Review to follow. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: George T. Walker (diff) Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:50, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Seems fine. I like the former hook better. I would also recommend removing the red links, so it looks nicer. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Santa Clara River (Utah)

• ... that the Santa Clara River area was the home of the indigenous Southern Paiute people during the Protohistoric period?

Created by Schmiebel (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 06:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Karen Stollznow

• ... that Karen Stollznow writes for two skeptical magazines (Skeptic & Skeptical Inquirer) and hosts two skeptical podcasts (Point of Inquiry & Monster Talk)?

Created by Krelnik (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Hook verified, article ready, prose confirmed at 2146 per DYKcheck, img is good! Rcej (Robert) – talk 06:42, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Fort Peck Lake

• ... that Fort Peck Lake is the largest lake by surface area in Montana?

Created by Shannon1 (talk). Self nom at 01:33, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, this article is not eligible, as it is too short. The minimum size for DYK is 1500 bytes "readable prose", this is currently 1137 bytes. If this can be expanded a little further, it would be eligible. J Milburn (talk) 18:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I added to it, I think it's more than 1500 bytes now. Shannonº 18:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Great, checks out. J Milburn (talk) 20:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Please do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, nominate them in the candidate entries section above, under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated (i) within five days of creation or expansion, as usual, and (ii) between five days and six weeks before the occasion, to give reviewers time to check the nomination. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements; see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

July 10

Terry Fullerton

• ... that triple Formula One world champion Ayrton Senna cited Terry Fullerton, his teammate in their karting days, as the driver he felt most satisfied racing against throughout his career?

• Comment: The day of the 2011 British Grand Prix

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self nom at 22:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

All aspects checked. But please cover all of the bare links. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I was going to fill them in but sice it has been done, I wish to thank Materialscientist for helping to cover all the bare link which I forgot to do yesterday. Donnie Park (talk) 16:32, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Ready to be DYK'd. - AnakngAraw (talk) 17:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Did you read it at all? --Ohconfucius 09:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Another editor might disagree with another editor's review, but never doubt it if I ever read an article or not, because I do read articles. This is why this site is a wiki. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• It seems that I may have hurt your pride, which I regret. There may be subjective dividing lines between "good" prose and "exceptional" prose, but I don't think there is anything all that subjective about the "poor" and unparseable prose I objected to. Your approval of the article left that as the big question in my mind. I would also mention that I fail to see what "This is why this site is a wiki" got to do with anything. There are Featured Articles, Good Articles, stubs, blatant promotion and vandalism here too... --Ohconfucius 07:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Totally disagree. The prose of this article is unfit for front page listing as it stands. For example, the first paragraph of the biography doesn't parse at all: When his brother, Alec, was killed in a motorcycle racing accident at Mallory Park in 1964, Terry took the decision not to graduate to automobile racing to spare his family of further anguish and have remained racing karts throughout his career as he saw the incentive to remain was enough for him., and there is more where this came from – including several sentences with non sequiturs. Do not pass go, do not collect ₤200. --Ohconfucius 09:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I now fixed the article, hope it is okay, may I now hand in my Get Out of Jail card. Donnie Park (talk) 16:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• You've landed on Park Lane, and I have several hotels on it! ;-) The problems of poor prose abound in the article, and redundancies like this still remain: He became the first British karting champion in 1973 when he won the 1973 Karting World Championship. Not to mention typos such as "sucess". --Ohconfucius 02:03, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

AnakngAraw does good work here. But in this article, the prose is a big problem.

"Although Fullerton is British, he raced under an Irish license in 1967, due to that he did not make it through driver selection despite finishing second during a meeting. As his bloodline is Irish, meaning that he is entitled to hold an Irish license. He competed in the World Championships with limited sucess and again in the following year."

See my user page top box for a link to "How to find good copy-editors". Independent eyes are always useful. Tony (talk) 07:28, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

• I have done what I can at this time, I hope that is good enough, any feedback is welcome and thanks to Ohconfucius for his help, and oh, I hope he lands on my Mayfair one day and face a hefty bill. Donnie Park (talk) 12:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I have no outstanding issues: I've copyedited it some more, and I think the prose is acceptable now. Now I have to get back to building some more hotels on Park Lane so I can lure more rich tourists! --Ohconfucius 08:02, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

July 12

Leroy Petry

• ... that on July 12, Leroy Petry (pictured) will become only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions since the end of the Vietnam War?

Created by TomPointTwo (talk), RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Nominated by Jwillbur (talk) at 00:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

• Hook, reference, length, and date all check out. Note that I added (pictured) to hook for image. Thanks, Ruby2010 comment! 00:49, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

• Note: I listed the article creator (TomPointTwo) and the most prolific editor (RightCowLeftCoast) as the authors, but a number of others have added to the article as well. Also, can this item be held until the date of the presentation ceremony, July 12? — jwillbur 00:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow, impeccable timing. Items can be held for a maximum of six weeks, and this article was created exactly six weeks before July 12. If the nominator consents to my ALT hook (or proposes another ALT hook), I will be happy to move this to the Special Occasion Holding Area (the ALT obviously only works on July 12):
ALT1... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Your alt hook looks great, thank you. — jwillbur 06:32, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Based on Ruby2010's approval of the date, length, and references for this nomination, this is approved with ALT1 and moved to the Special Occasion Holding Area for July 12. OCNative (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps it should say 'American' or 'U.S.' somewhere in the hook. The Medal of Honor link should be changed also, as it points to a dab page. --Soman (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I had typed Medal of Honour... anyway, it is still a bit ambigous. There are various other medals with similar names. --Soman (talk) 01:40, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

How about Congressional Medal of Honor or the U.S. Congressional Medal of Honor? While technical incorrect, that moniker has always been specificially associated with this particular American military decoration. Also, using the link Congressional Medal of Honor will re-direct the reader to the appropriate article. Marcd30319 (talk) 18:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't realize this discussion was still going on here. I'm hesitant to use "Congressional" to perpetuate a common misnomer, particularly when anyone who knows the term Congressional Medal of Honor will also understand the term Medal of Honor. How about this ALT adding U.S. in front of Medal of Honor:
ALT2... that today, Leroy Petry (pictured) becomes only the second living soldier to receive the U.S. Medal of Honor for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 10:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I have minor concern about the wording of the hook being confusing. Saying that he is the second living soldier can be taken two ways: that he is the second person still alive today (this interpretation matches the piped linked article List of living Medal of Honor recipients), or that he is the second non-posthumous recipient. In this case it appears to me that both are true, but the dual meaning makes it confusing, because a reader may wonder which meaning is intended. Since the latter meaning strikes me as the more significant, I suggest that the hook should be reworded to clarify that. cmadler (talk) 12:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Hm, I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right: the piped article makes it more confusing, so how about this ALT:
ALT3... that Leroy Petry (pictured) is receiving the U.S. Medal of Honor today, marking only the second time that the award has been bestowed upon a living soldier for actions after the end of the Vietnam War? OCNative (talk) 08:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Yep, ALT3 looks good. cmadler (talk) 12:58, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

July 14 (Bastille Day)

Constituencies for French residents overseas

• ... that the world has been divided into eleven constituencies (pictured) for French residents overseas to vote in the 2012 legislative election?

• Reviewed: Shammi Narang ()

Created by Aridd (talk). Self nom at 17:15, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go.--— ZjarriRrethues —  19:26, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Nice article, but I wouldn't recommend using that picture for the hook. At such a small resolution it's almost useless in the hook as it's too small to be able to tell which countries are included in each constituency. BigDom 19:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It gives a sense of which regions form constituencies, though. Which I would suggest is sufficient for the hook. And it may encourage readers to click for more detail. (And thank you, by the way.) Aridd (talk) 19:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

• I suggest using this, with other hooks related to France and Francophones, for DYK on July 14, Bastille Day. Sharktopus 21:26, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

• I've moved this to the special occasion holding area for July 14 (Bastille Day). OCNative (talk) 07:34, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Jean Thurel

• ... that Jean Thurel (pictured) was a soldier in the French Régiment de Touraine for over ninety years?

• Comment: The article syas that he joined at age 16, was a member for 92 years, and died at 107; presumably this means that he was in for the year he was 16, the year he was 17, etc., which makes 92 years overall.

Created by UltimaRatio (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 02:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Length and date OK, hook supported by inline citation, references check out. Interesting article! I have taken the liberty of adding an image. This will generate much more interest in the article. DiverDave (talk) 20:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

• Moved to special occasion holding area for July 14 (Bastille Day). OCNative (talk) 08:30, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

July 26

Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg

• ... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg turned the East Wing of Schloss Johannisberg (pictured) into a concert hall for the Rheingau Musik Festival?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:03, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Two things: Could we identify her somehow? Like: "... that German patron of the arts Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..." or "... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg..."? Also, could you review another hook? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• edit conflict: I reviewed #Peter Child, took me a moment, smile. "Princess" is fine, German patron of the arts seems a bit too narrow, as she was of Russian origin and a writer, artist and charity benefactor also. You could also say "the last member of the House of Metternich", but that seems a bit longish to me. She died 5 years ago on 26 July, that might be a good date to promote this. I wonder if I should add more details (Berlin years, 600 km treck ...) or leave them in the sources to be discovered by interest readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• OK, I added "Princess" to the hook. If you have the additional biographical information, I think it's good to add it, considering that many of your sources are in German. But the length as it stands now is fine for DYK. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Additional details are in the Telegraph obituary, available in English (the German sources are minor in length and don't supply much more). I will read the Missie diary and look for more there. What do you think of 26 July? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• I think you can fit it in under 200 char, but is it interesting?
• ALT1: ... that Princess Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg, who died five years ago today, turned the East Wing of Schloss Johannisberg (pictured) into a concert hall for the Rheingau Musik Festival? Yoninah (talk) 22:11, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Well, the festival always has impressive flowers on her grave right next to the Basilika (should I mention the location in the article?) on the anniversary of her death. This is a bit like it, thanks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• I'm not crazy about the alt. Can we stick with the original? Yoninah (talk) 21:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Yes. Can we just run it that day? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Sure, why not? Original hook good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Moved hook to July 26, fifth anniversary of the Princess' death. Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

August 9

Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero

• ... that a gecko from the British Virgin Islands called the Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero (pictured) is nearly as small as a U.S. dime and weighs at most 0.15 g (0.0053 oz)?

• Reviewed: The Cenotaph, Whitehall ()

5x expanded by Visionholder (talk). Self nom at 01:07, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Expansion confirmed, ref, hooks, dates all check out. Good to go! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

• Moved back from Prep Area 4 to go to Special Occasion Holding Area for July 10 August 9, per Misplaced Pages talk:Did you know#Virgin Islands dwarf sphaero hook in Prep room 4. OCNative (talk) 08:02, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

See also

• User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by TedderBot (talk · contribs · logs).

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