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July 2011

Welcome to Misplaced Pages and thank you for your contributions. However, I noticed that your username (Bill clinton history) may not meet Misplaced Pages's username policy because it is the name of a well-known American president. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account to use for editing. Thank you. Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

i think it not voilate any policy of wikipedia.morever i am not defaming any body .i have adopted a name only as a name.any person should be free from adopting any name in respectable form in real life or as a username.it also suits the democratic ethos of globalised world and particularly wikipedia.Bill clinton history (talk) 15:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Misplaced Pages pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 14:35, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Appreciated

I like your new edits at the Ahir article.

-MangoWong (talk) 17:12, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I find that you are having some issues at the Ahir talk page. Here are some points that came to my mind. It is about the misuse of the word "Shu***" in that article. I think that word should NOT be anywhere in that article. When someone writes an article on "Earth", there is usually no need to say anything about "Flat earth theory", because the earth is not flat!!!! We all know that much. If someone wants to talk about the "Flat Earth theory" in the article about "Earth", they would have to establish that the Earth is flat or that there are a large number of contemporary scientists who think that the Earth is flat!!!! If they can’t do that, it can’t be mentioned in that article. Saying that a large number of people used to think in the past that the Earth is flat is not enough, and is of no use. As simple as that. WP:FRINGE (please click through the link and read it). Similarly, the Ahirs are not regarded as "Shu***" by anyone in the present world. If nobody regards Ahirs as "Shu***" in the present world, the word need not get any mention in the article on "Ahir". If anyone wants to mention this word in the article on "Ahir", you can challange them to prove that the Ahirs are regarded as "Shu***" in the present world. Moreover, you can also challenge them to prove that Ahirs "were" “Shu***”. They were not. They were people. Nobody in the present world says that the Ahirs of past "were" “Shu***”. What others of that time may have said does not matter. If the people of present think that people of past were mistaken, they "were" mistaken. And this is what matters. If they cannot prove that the Ahirs of past "were" “Shudra”, your argument should prevail. I think nobody can prove this. What they were regarded as by others does not matter. You can use this argument if you want. But there is no assurance that it will be accepted easily. If you want, you can use it, and if the argument be correct, you should be able to have your opinion prevail. I hope you do not mind me dropping in here from time to time. And if you argue this point, make absolutely sure that you do not say anything even remotely insulting or do not make any sort of threats. Even if others misbehave, keep your cool. People might try to trick you into misbehaving by themselves saying something offensive to you, so that they can get you blocked. It's a trap. And please don't violate the "3RR" under any circumstances. Folks may also try to trick you into doing that. 3RR means you cannot revert anything more than 3 times within a 24 hour period. If you can do this much, then we will see... You can also come to my talk page and drop comments whenever you like. It may be that your opponents can violate all the policies and guidelines of Misplaced Pages, and still go scot free. But you can't. But you need not do so!!!! You can still see your opinion prevail without breaking any policies!!! If you want to practice your editing skills or anything, you can also create a personal sandbox by clicking on this red link User:Bill clinton history/Sandbox. This sandbox will also have a talkpage and you can create that too. I can also create them for you if you want. With best regards....-MangoWong (talk) 05:36, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Automatic footnote generator

Hey Bill, you might find it a great timesaver to use http://reftag.appspot.com to format your footnotes from GoogleBooks. Whenever you find something on gBooks you like, just copy the URL from your browser bar and put it into the entry box at RefTag. The only catch is that if you're using Snippet View, or if you scroll down in Preview/Full to a page other than the one you landed on, RefTag might not fill in the page numbers right, so make sure you observe your page# so you can enter it manually and update the result as needed. Hope you find this a useful tool. MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:21, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Careful of manipulators, keep doing the good work you're doing

Greetings Bill, I appreciate that you are interested in seriously improving caste articles and bringing them to WP standards, and that you have inadvertently found yourself in a very controversial topic that is frustrating to work on. I would caution you against the goading of TT2011 and particularly MangoWong (fresh off a block). MangoWong has shown a clear pattern of trying to get other editors to fight his fights for him; note on Talk:Yadav he makes allegations worthy of an WP:ANI report, but then refuses to make them himself, but encourages you to make one. You'll note MW does very, very little constructive work on articles himself, but hangs about Talk pages adding hostility, and goading others into fights. To make an analogy: he's that guy at the corner pub sidling up to his "friends" and saying "Oi Ted, did you hear what that bloke said about your mother? You're not gonna stand for that, are you???" He's a cheerleader for conflict, and I'm probably remiss in not having an ANI on him already.

I hope you will agree that Sitush and I, though not always agreeing with you, are being civil and taking your suggestions seriously, reading your refs and commenting, etc. Caste is a tricky topic, and learning WP procedure is difficult, but provided we can tune out those people who are here to "have fun" fighting instead of being helpful, I'm sure we can work with you to get good work done, and before long you'll be an experienced editor who knows how to navigate controversy. This is a bit of "baptism by fire" to start out in such a rough area, but both Sitush and I are happy to work with you as long as we're all civil and using proper sourcing and format. Thanks for your positive spirit, MatthewVanitas (talk) 13:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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