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			=="the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth"==
	I recently added some additions and corrections to the article "John C. Cremony", only to have them immediately deleted. Thinking I might have not actually posted my corrections, I rewrote them and posted them again, only to have them immediately censored and replaced by the original article. This happened a third time, also immediately. Nobody gave any reason for this. I had just finished Cremony's Life Among the Apaches and sought more information about the author. The short article stated that Cremony admired the Apaches, but I quoted him as asserting that they were "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth.... incapable of improvement." I wonder how anybody could say that Cremony admired, or was a friend of, the Apaches. Anyone doubting the accuracy of my own post can read the last five or six pages of the book, although they only restate what Cremony had said throughout the book. I am disillusioned to learn that someone can instantly censor my additions and replace them with the original errors. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:52, 29 July 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	I recently added some additions and corrections to the article "John C. Cremony", only to have them immediately deleted. Thinking I might have not actually posted my corrections, I rewrote them and posted them again, only to have them immediately censored and replaced by the original article. This happened a third time, also immediately. Nobody gave any reason for this. I had just finished Cremony's Life Among the Apaches and sought more information about the author. The short article stated that Cremony admired the Apaches, but I quoted him as asserting that they were "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth.... incapable of improvement." I wonder how anybody could say that Cremony admired, or was a friend of, the Apaches. Anyone doubting the accuracy of my own post can read the last five or six pages of the book, although they only restate what Cremony had said throughout the book. I am disillusioned to learn that someone can instantly censor my additions and replace them with the original errors. ] (]) 00:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)		I recently added some additions and corrections to the article "John C. Cremony", only to have them immediately deleted. Thinking I might have not actually posted my corrections, I rewrote them and posted them again, only to have them immediately censored and replaced by the original article. This happened a third time, also immediately. Nobody gave any reason for this. I had just finished Cremony's Life Among the Apaches and sought more information about the author. The short article stated that Cremony admired the Apaches, but I quoted him as asserting that they were "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth.... incapable of improvement." I wonder how anybody could say that Cremony admired, or was a friend of, the Apaches. Anyone doubting the accuracy of my own post can read the last five or six pages of the book, although they only restate what Cremony had said throughout the book. I am disillusioned to learn that someone can instantly censor my additions and replace them with the original errors. ] (]) 00:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

			:It is true that Cremony's book says that the Apache is "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth". What is not good about your addition is that it adds your opinion that he was a genocidal racist white supremacist. Rather than drawing material from Cremony's book, why don't you limit yourself to ] sources that analyze Cremony. ] (]) 03:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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- ... that John C. Cremony was a Boston newspaperman and United States Army Major who wrote the first dictionary of the Apache language and an account of their culture in 1869?
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"the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth"

I recently added some additions and corrections to the article "John C. Cremony", only to have them immediately deleted. Thinking I might have not actually posted my corrections, I rewrote them and posted them again, only to have them immediately censored and replaced by the original article. This happened a third time, also immediately. Nobody gave any reason for this. I had just finished Cremony's *Life Among the Apaches* and sought more information about the author. The short article stated that Cremony admired the Apaches, but I quoted him as asserting that they were "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth.... incapable of improvement." I wonder how anybody could say that Cremony admired, or was a friend of, the Apaches. Anyone doubting the accuracy of my own post can read the last five or six pages of the book, although they only restate what Cremony had said throughout the book. I am disillusioned to learn that someone can instantly censor my additions and replace them with the original errors. LosAngeles08 (talk) 00:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

It is true that Cremony's book says that the Apache is "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth". What is not good about your addition is that it adds your opinion that he was a genocidal racist white supremacist. Rather than drawing material from Cremony's book, why don't you limit yourself to WP:SECONDARY sources that analyze Cremony. Binksternet (talk) 03:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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			=="the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth"==
	I recently added some additions and corrections to the article "John C. Cremony", only to have them immediately deleted. Thinking I might have not actually posted my corrections, I rewrote them and posted them again, only to have them immediately censored and replaced by the original article. This happened a third time, also immediately. Nobody gave any reason for this. I had just finished Cremony's Life Among the Apaches and sought more information about the author. The short article stated that Cremony admired the Apaches, but I quoted him as asserting that they were "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth.... incapable of improvement." I wonder how anybody could say that Cremony admired, or was a friend of, the Apaches. Anyone doubting the accuracy of my own post can read the last five or six pages of the book, although they only restate what Cremony had said throughout the book. I am disillusioned to learn that someone can instantly censor my additions and replace them with the original errors. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:52, 29 July 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	I recently added some additions and corrections to the article "John C. Cremony", only to have them immediately deleted. Thinking I might have not actually posted my corrections, I rewrote them and posted them again, only to have them immediately censored and replaced by the original article. This happened a third time, also immediately. Nobody gave any reason for this. I had just finished Cremony's Life Among the Apaches and sought more information about the author. The short article stated that Cremony admired the Apaches, but I quoted him as asserting that they were "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth.... incapable of improvement." I wonder how anybody could say that Cremony admired, or was a friend of, the Apaches. Anyone doubting the accuracy of my own post can read the last five or six pages of the book, although they only restate what Cremony had said throughout the book. I am disillusioned to learn that someone can instantly censor my additions and replace them with the original errors. ] (]) 00:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)		I recently added some additions and corrections to the article "John C. Cremony", only to have them immediately deleted. Thinking I might have not actually posted my corrections, I rewrote them and posted them again, only to have them immediately censored and replaced by the original article. This happened a third time, also immediately. Nobody gave any reason for this. I had just finished Cremony's Life Among the Apaches and sought more information about the author. The short article stated that Cremony admired the Apaches, but I quoted him as asserting that they were "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth.... incapable of improvement." I wonder how anybody could say that Cremony admired, or was a friend of, the Apaches. Anyone doubting the accuracy of my own post can read the last five or six pages of the book, although they only restate what Cremony had said throughout the book. I am disillusioned to learn that someone can instantly censor my additions and replace them with the original errors. ] (]) 00:54, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

			:It is true that Cremony's book says that the Apache is "the most treacherous, bloodthirsty, villainous and unmitigated rascal upon earth". What is not good about your addition is that it adds your opinion that he was a genocidal racist white supremacist. Rather than drawing material from Cremony's book, why don't you limit yourself to ] sources that analyze Cremony. ] (]) 03:10, 29 July 2011 (UTC)