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::: Sorry, ''my'' POV? Who is pushing these changes in tens of articles, in all namespaces? You, Chesdovi. So it is you who is trying to change Misplaced Pages, and you can not show that you have consensus to do so. ] (]) 15:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC) | ::: Sorry, ''my'' POV? Who is pushing these changes in tens of articles, in all namespaces? You, Chesdovi. So it is you who is trying to change Misplaced Pages, and you can not show that you have consensus to do so. ] (]) 15:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC) | ||
::::It seems I am only "pushing" against you (and your petty POV). It is quite clear you are trying to change Misplaced Pages. Take this page for example. It was born Palestinian, and you just baptised it Jewish. You did not even leave the good rabbi’s Palestinian identity. Shame on you. ] (]) 16:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC) | ::::It seems I am only "pushing" against you (and your petty POV). It is quite clear you are trying to change Misplaced Pages. Take this page for example. It was born Palestinian, and you just baptised it Jewish. You did not even leave the good rabbi’s Palestinian identity. Shame on you. ] (]) 16:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC) | ||
::::: Please refrain from personal attack language like "petty" or "shame on you". As to the issue, do you deny this rabbi was Jewish? In addition, I am pretty sure that if you would have asked him if he would have wanted to be remembered as Jewish or as Palestine, he would have preferred the first. In addition, as we have discussed already, it is highly doubtable that he was referred to in his days as Palestine, while he certainly was Jewish. ] (]) 21:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC) |
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The reasons given for Aaron ben Meir's disagreement are pretty much completely incomprehensible. And they both seem to lead a result 642 earlier rather than later.MikeR613 (talk) 03:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
4 year chazakah
For 4 years, AbM was described a being Palestinian. A few months ago an IP replaced it with "~Hebraic", now Debresser has removed it again after I replaced the sourced term, per WP:OPENPARA. What to do? Chesdovi (talk) 10:43, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Please quit your POV blabla. 1. No sources. 2. See how I fixed the opening sentence per WP:OPENPARA, and learn from it how to make good edits, without pushing your POV. Debresser (talk) 14:54, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- This is clearly not my POV issue, it's yours. Calling a historic person Palestinian is factual and correct – that’s me. Trying to remove the word "Palestinian" from historic Jews is a major POV strategy which you will not be successful it trying to enforce on historical biographical articles. Just as you seemingly have no concern about referring to David ben Zakkai as a Babylonian, there is no need to gloss over the regional identity of AbM. Chesdovi (talk) 15:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, my POV? Who is pushing these changes in tens of articles, in all namespaces? You, Chesdovi. So it is you who is trying to change Misplaced Pages, and you can not show that you have consensus to do so. Debresser (talk) 15:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- It seems I am only "pushing" against you (and your petty POV). It is quite clear you are trying to change Misplaced Pages. Take this page for example. It was born Palestinian, and you just baptised it Jewish. You did not even leave the good rabbi’s Palestinian identity. Shame on you. Chesdovi (talk) 16:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Please refrain from personal attack language like "petty" or "shame on you". As to the issue, do you deny this rabbi was Jewish? In addition, I am pretty sure that if you would have asked him if he would have wanted to be remembered as Jewish or as Palestine, he would have preferred the first. In addition, as we have discussed already, it is highly doubtable that he was referred to in his days as Palestine, while he certainly was Jewish. Debresser (talk) 21:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- It seems I am only "pushing" against you (and your petty POV). It is quite clear you are trying to change Misplaced Pages. Take this page for example. It was born Palestinian, and you just baptised it Jewish. You did not even leave the good rabbi’s Palestinian identity. Shame on you. Chesdovi (talk) 16:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, my POV? Who is pushing these changes in tens of articles, in all namespaces? You, Chesdovi. So it is you who is trying to change Misplaced Pages, and you can not show that you have consensus to do so. Debresser (talk) 15:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- This is clearly not my POV issue, it's yours. Calling a historic person Palestinian is factual and correct – that’s me. Trying to remove the word "Palestinian" from historic Jews is a major POV strategy which you will not be successful it trying to enforce on historical biographical articles. Just as you seemingly have no concern about referring to David ben Zakkai as a Babylonian, there is no need to gloss over the regional identity of AbM. Chesdovi (talk) 15:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC)