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About Nanyue, it is part of cantonese history

The ONLY last thing I wanted to add is to include history of nanyue into cantonese section. I really hope that whoever is removing this part would please stop. BECAUSE NANYUE....it's part of cantonese history, even the meaning of cantonese which means "Yue" was derived from Nanyue. That doesn't mean we are yue, we are of course more han chinese but we can't deny some of our yue bloodline. I know that many Cantonese have sensitive issues with being related with yue which also means viet. But the yue are not vietnamese... like many vietnamese claim. North vietnam ( oulou ) was conquered and incorporated in nanyue this is why I mentioned it on the history section on nanyue to stop the confusion. Some cantonese trying to claim 100% pure north han ancestry, it's absolutely impossible because according y-dna and mtdna genetic studies, it clearly shows many southern chinese are mixed to begin with. Cantonese Y-dna is Northern but mtdna is closer to southern, like many southern chinese.

Cantonese people

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Hey, I cited an very reliable source, it's from the record of grand historian.

-- WarriorsPride6565 (talk) 1:26, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

You have cited the primary source; it could be better if you also have secondary sources, e.g., books written in modern time. STSC (talk) 20:02, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

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Why isn't it constructive? I just wanted to make clear on the reason on how it led to the annexation and of other kingdoms, to make sense why nanyue later included north vietnam.Why is it in the other wiki page like the british people, dutch people ,spanish people ect are allowed to mention how some details of war and annexation of the territories, but you can't do this cantonese people. Since the history of Nanyue are also part of cantonese people's history. -- WarriorsPride6565 (talk) 11:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

There are already articles on Zhao Tuo and Nanyue, so no need to include irrelevant warring details in this article. STSC (talk) 03:54, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I understand, but Zhao Tou and Nanyue it's part of cantonese history. It's in our name, in our blood and even in our modern territory today. The info I edited before contains only an very small percentage details of Zhao Tou and Nanyue, all I did was added an few more word and sentence, which I will stop after this. After this last edit, I will stop. I just wanted to make perfect sense into the edit by describing the reason it became the strongest baiyue state, and why north vietnam became annexed. It all started because he sacked the hunan capital city and repelled an invasion, this gave the reason to expand his territory and gained the allegiance of other neighboring kingdom. Everything I already mention is already on the Zhao and Nanyue wiki page. Zhao Tuo repelled an han invasion than incorporated north vietnam, not because it was already part nanyue.

-- WarriorsPride6565 (talk) 12:18, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

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Please source your edits

WarriorsPride6565, I see that you are adding a good bit of material, which is good, but that you're not including references. Could you add citations and sources to the material you are adding? --Nuujinn (talk) 11:12, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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October 2011

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Talkback

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Copyvio

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Sources

Your edit to Chindian added a link to a blog about stocks and shares. I didn't bother reading it as it clearly does not meet our criteria as a reliable source, see WP:RS. Dougweller (talk) 14:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Randomly removing words

Why are you randomly removing words in several articles in many of your edits? --Cold Season (talk) 20:08, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused, can you please give me an example of which article specifically. Believe me, I'm not randomly removing words on purpose, some of the words I removed were just misleading to the readers. --WarriorsPride6565

Don't forget to sign your post with by typing four tildes, like: ~~~~. Anyway, and several others. Here is one removing bits of comments of other users from a talkpage (!) which also happened more than once now: . Frankly, I do not really understand the reason for this kind of edits. --Cold Season (talk) 00:01, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

The reason for the hong kong edit was to make it clear to everyone that the vast majority of population in hong kong is cantonese. But instead it mentioned all the han chinese ethnic like it was similar in proportions, which is misleading in my opinion. The percentage of the Han ethnic group in hong kong should be mentioned accurately. " It is not surprising that Cantonese speakers accounted for the majority (79 percent) of the total population. Most of the Cantonese speakers were either born in Hong Kong or immigrated from the central or western part of Guangdong. " SOURCE: --WarriorsPride6565 WarriorsPride6565 (talk) 00:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you understand. I'm talking about the random REMOVAL of words, not what you added. Cold Season (talk) 00:16, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

That's the point, the reason I removed words like taishanese in hong kong wiki page was because taishanese are also cantonese people, hence the reason I wrote cantonese people make up the vast majority of hong kong. My recent changes were the "Hong Kong" and and "demographic of hong kong" The other link you showed me about hakka people was almost an month ago.--WarriorsPride6565

I will make it simple, since you still have no clue what I'm speaking of... Removal of the word "Hong Kong" here: . But than on a larger scale with other edits. Cold Season (talk) 00:36, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I removed the word "Hong Kong"? Sorry I'm confused , can you show me the paragraph or the words you mean? I did click your link, but it only showed me words that were bolded in red, those weren't words I removed, they were added by me. -- WarriorsPride6565 (talk), 16 October 2011 (UTC)

The first yellow-higlighted paragraph on the left (left side shows the old version before the edit), "Hong Kong" is marked red there which means it got removed. Don't randomly remove words like you did in a lot of edits. Cold Season (talk) 01:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I won't. By there is still something I don't understand, other words that are in the yellow-higlighted paragraph and are marked red like "an" or "percentage" are words that I added not removed, otherwise those will still be one the the H.K wiki page (on the demographic section)--WarriorsPride6565 WarriorsPride6565 (talk), 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Cold Season, he did it again, this time on Negrito. I smell a block ... --Florian Blaschke (talk) 00:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

I smell ignorance and full of misleading information. Who added that piece did such poor and horrible research. Who ever added piece CLEARLY DON'T UNDERSTAND NOTHING ABOUT HAPLOGROUP GENETICS!!!! Just like you (Florian Blashke) obviously. It's stupid saying haplogroup D is found in china, is due to negrito. The chinese article says NOTHING about haplogroup D is due to negrito. The only negrito with D* are the Adamanese who are ISOLATED in adaman islands. FOR GOD SAKE.... DO SOME PROPER RESEARCH AND READ THIS """" REAL GENETIC EVIDENCE""""

http://en.wikipedia.org/Andamanese_people " Andamanese (Onges and Jarawas) belong almost exclusively to the subtype designated Haplotype D, which is also common in Tibet and Japan, but rare on the Indian mainland. However, this is a subclade of the D haplogroup which has not been seen outside of the Andamans, marking the insularity of these tribes." Haplogroup D2 is ainu, Haplogroup D1a and D3 is Tibetan and Tibeto-burmese, and paragroup D* is negrito, which is ISOLATED on the adaman island, and not found anywhere else. EXPLAIN THIS TO ME: How is it that D haplogroup belongs to negrito, when the only D* haplogroup dna is isolated in Adaman islands? and D haplogroup in china is related with tibetan D1 and tibeto burmese D3a. WarriorsPride6565 WarriorsPride6565 (talk) 12:45, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T BOTHER TO READ ON ADAMANESE WIKI PAGE, AT LEAST READ ON THE HAPLOGROUP D WIKI PAGE which contained genetic evidence and approved reference, unlike that chinese article reference which says NOTHING about haplogroup D to beging with. Not only that, the chinese article mentions nothing about genetics, what's funny is that the whole point of this chinese article is more like an hypothesis. Was the person who added that chinese reference even an chinese person?

http://en.wikipedia.org/Haplogroup_D_(Y-DNA)

" Haplogroup D is also remarkable for its rather extreme geographic differentiation, with a distinct subset of Haplogroup D chromosomes being found exclusively in each of the populations that contains a large percentage of individuals whose Y-chromosomes belong to Haplogroup D: Haplogroup D1 among the Tibetans (as well as among the mainland East Asian populations that display very low frequencies of Haplogroup D Y-chromosomes), Haplogroup D2 among the various populations of the Japanese Archipelago, Haplogroup D3 among the inhabitants of Tibet, Tajikistan and other parts of mountainous southern Central Asia, and paragroup D* (probably another monophyletic branch of Haplogroup D) among the Andaman Islanders. Another type (or types) of paragroup D* is found at a very low frequency among the Turkic and Mongolic populations of Central Asia, amounting to no more than 1% in total. This apparently ancient diversification of Haplogroup D suggests that it may perhaps be better characterized as a "super-haplogroup" or "macro-haplogroup." In one study, the frequency of Haplogroup D* found among Thais was 10%."WarriorsPride6565 WarriorsPride6565 (talk) 1:08, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Sources

Please reference material you wish to add with appropriate citations to source--if a book is a source, the author, title, and page number are a bare minimum. --Nuujinn (talk) 21:53, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I already got an source for the punti-hakka war. " More than 3000 Hakkas, who were defeated by the Punti in Gui county, joined the God-worship Society" Book: Asian millenarianism: Author: Hong Beom Rhee, Page: 263

Randomly removing words and other matters

To refresh your memory, you said above that you'd stop removing random words and verified information. Afterward, you responded with a bunch of stuff about haplogroups, none of which was to the point of this edit. What you did here made even less sense--are you aware that you removed the word "fans" and created an ungrammatical sentence? and broke the wikilinks? Please let this be a warning: you were reported for vandalism, but I declined--but consider this a final warning. If you persist with such edits, you may find yourself blocked (depending on what edits they are, for instance), or you may find yourself called to WP:ANI, where someone might claim you don't have WP:COMPETENCE enough to edit Misplaced Pages. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 04:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

WHAT THE HELL..... I DID NOT REMOVED THAT WORD FAN. WHY WOULD I REMOVED THE WORD FAN FOR NO REASON???????

Sorry but I don't believe that, someone must have edited it that for me.I know for sure I added she was of Cantonese origin. SOURCE? HERE..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIfhxJzTOYs. She clearly stated that she was of cantonese origin, it was removed.

Okay, I admit I HAVE ungrammatical sentence, please helped me correct. BUT AT LEAST.... I write the truth and wanted to correct this incorrect and misleading sentence such as this. This sentence " Haplogroup D (Y-DNA) are found frequently among some peoples living in the same area. In China, stone coffins were used by these peoples " IT is completely misleading and false, the only Haplogroup D, it misleading to everyone. The sources cited was 2 random chinese forum talking about ghosts and negrito.

And the edit contradicts this wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/Andamanese " Within this lineage, the Andamanese (Onges and Jarawas) belong almost exclusively to the subtype designated Haplotype D, which is also common in Tibet and Japan, but rare on the Indian mainland. However, this is a subclade of the D haplogroup which has not been seen outside of the Andamans, marking the insularity of these tribes."

WarriorsPride6565 (talk) 4:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

The edit clearly shows that not only did you add that she was of Canonese origin, but you did remove the word fans. Look at it. LadyofShalott 10:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

November 2011

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December 2011

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I will have to block you

if you can't explain and stop your removal of random words and phrases, such as here (whicn I expect you to fix) and as mentioned above, Hui people. Dougweller (talk) 10:32, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

• Dougweller, valid point: this seems to be symptomatic of this editor's work. WarriorsPride, this is your final warning: your competence is in question. Drmies (talk) 15:29, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

• They just disappear by themselves, I've asked people this problem before and they said I may have an bug in my browser. Those random words and phrases that keep getting removed are always highlighted in blue, I really don't know how it happened. Maybe I should change to an different account, I know how to change my Ip address as-well, maybe that would help.

WarriorsPride6565 (talk) 4:08, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

1. http://books.google.com/books?id=Uw_ld2wXjo4C&pg=PA150&dq=cantonese+speaker+in+hong+kong+79%25&hl=en&ei=FCCaTt6AOc_BtAa-kemABA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CE8Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false
2. http://books.google.com/books?id=E8IRdcnxg08C&pg=PA263&dq=hakka+defeated+by+punti&hl=en&ei=4xWaTtjOHIntsgau88mVBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=hakka%20defeated%20by%20punti&f=false