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Tom of Finland

I just thought I'd drop you a note to let you know that I agree with you about the picture at the Tom of Finland page. Someone reverted you, but I have restored your edit. You might want to watchlist the page. Hebradaeum (talk) 05:01, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Indeed I will watchlist it, and thank you very much for the alert. I looked through every other-language WP article of this name, and none used such an upfront shot. It's a matter of balance; there's got to be some kind of boundary between porn and non-porn (and the artistic argument is hardly valid here, I think). Tony (talk) 05:17, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Could use an outside iBall

You are invited to join the discussion at ]. Thx. Dl2000 (talk) 04:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

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User:Giraffedata/comprised of

Because of my recent revisions to the article "Kerala", that article is now on my watchlist, and, because of this revision by User:Giraffedata, I found User:Giraffedata/comprised of, which may interest you and your page watchers. A record of that editor's contributions is at http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Giraffedata. The words "compose", "comprise", "consist", and "constitute" are discussed at compose / consist / comprise /constitute... - EnglishClub.
—Wavelength (talk) 14:58, 15 August 2012 (UTC) and 14:07, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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I have used your name in a reply on MOSDATE. If you ever use my name in any discussion, I fully expect you will inform me. What has happened to you, Tony? You have changed dramatically from your early years here. Gimmetoo (talk) 06:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I have evolved, but in a socially responsible way, I hope. Tony (talk) 06:07, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

While I expect constant sniping and biting from long-term disruptive editors, I expected better from you. Is it no longer possible for you to have an opinion without denigrating anyone who doesn't share your opinion? Gimmetoo (talk) 06:13, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

<sigh> Please calm down and try to be more collegial. Tony (talk) 07:08, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Sigh? The RfCs on the issue have been had. The problem is that certain editors have gone on for years now in defiance of these RfCs. That you characterize a multiple RfC- and MOSNUM-authorized format as a "pet format" suggests, even now, your refusal to follow consensus. Yet apparently, you consider pointing this out "not collegial". Would you consider it honest and upright to mention editors by name disparagingly on various fora without even the decency to inform the named editors? Gimmetoo (talk) 07:23, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Gimme, I'm too old for this badgering. You watchlist WT:MOSNUM, right? Given your record of aggressively haranguing editors who in good faith are trying to fix up the mess of ref dates, I was disinclined to jump through hoops and notify you separately on your talk page. It was a thread you were already participating in. Give me a break. Tony (talk) 07:27, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

WTMOSNUM is not what I'm referring to, Tony. Perhaps you should not be encouraging editors to edit contrary to the RfCs and the guideline, and to ignore requests to comply with the guidelines. Why do we bother having RfCs and guidelines, if asking people who don't comply with them is characterized as "haranguing"? Gimmetoo (talk) 07:37, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Let's try to reach out to each other. This is just too negative. Tony (talk) 07:39, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

You've made some characterizations that most would normally interpret as negative. What do you have in mind to change that? Gimmetoo (talk) 07:46, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Not the response I was looking for. What I have in mind is to wait a while. I'm quite relaxed at the moment, and I don't like seeing you spin out like this. I'm sorry if I've been critical. Tony (talk) 08:15, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

When you are ready to engage in collegial action, let me know. Gimmetoo (talk) 22:16, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Certainly not while you're in that mood. Tony (talk) 00:33, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Hyphens!!!

As much as I admire your dedication to correct grammar on Misplaced Pages, I think your recent use of hyphens might just be a bit hasty. For example, I see you have moved the article "singular value decomposition" to "singular-value decomposition" twice recently. In all uses of the term I have seen (and I have seen a number of them recently because I have just learned and am using singular value decomposition), the hyphen is not present. Worse, you have moved the article "continuous knapsack problem" to "continuous-knapsack problem". I am also familiar with that, having presented it to my class last year. It is not the knapsack that is continuous, but the items going into the knapsack that are continuous (they can be broken into pieces in other words), so the hyphen is incorrect and confusing. Could you cool it with the hyphens for now? I see I have some things to fix now. Thanks. -- Schapel (talk) 14:35, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

So it's not a continuous problem, I presume. It's a problem of the continuous knapsack, rather tangentially expressed. I've not decided on this one, and nor have I done a search of sources. I will do this. Tony (talk) 14:49, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I think the easiest, safest thing to do would be to use the term as it is most popularly used. It's okay if the grammar on Misplaced Pages is not exactly perfect. If you feel strongly enough about a hyphen that you're willing to move the page, please do the research or discuss it on the talk page first. You can't just quickly search-and-replace — you have to understand what the term actually means before you can decide whether a hyphen is appropriate. Thanks! -- Schapel (talk) 15:01, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Someone else has been so kind as to fix the two problems I mentioned. I had to go into one of those articles and remove the hyphens you added there, too. Could you be so kind as to review and undo the rest of your hyphen edits where you added a hyphen to a term that usually is not hyphenated? I and many others would greatly appreciate it! Thanks. -- Schapel (talk) 17:20, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I would be that kind soul. I agree that Tony has gone a little hyphen-crazy lately, and have undone the SVD and knapsack moves, as most of them are completely unhyphenated in sources. The most-hyphenated one, "singular value decomposition", is done so less than 10% of the time. Tony - I've told you before that I think you do good work by and large. Schapel is right, though, that perhaps you should slow down and actually examine sources before plunging in with a move. On the other hand, if you get it right 85% of the time, it's still a net improvement to Misplaced Pages, and there'll be folks who can come by and clean up later. Hmm - interesting economics argument I hadn't considered earlier... Dohn joe (talk) 17:30, 16 August 2012 (UTC)