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Hello, your input would be appreciated more on the subject of the name and content of the article again which has arisen again here ]. Having read through the disputes thoroughly, I am getting the feeling that really this is all about a certain Ukrainian user who is going to maximum cry-wolf efforts to try and ensure that the article does not lose the "Crimean" label. Hope you will stay involved. ] (]) 11:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC) Hello, your input would be appreciated more on the subject of the name and content of the article again which has arisen again here ]. Having read through the disputes thoroughly, I am getting the feeling that really this is all about a certain Ukrainian user who is going to maximum cry-wolf efforts to try and ensure that the article does not lose the "Crimean" label. Hope you will stay involved. ] (]) 11:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
:thanks. I'll be observing the situation. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC) :thanks. I'll be observing the situation. ] <sup>]</sup> 20:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for the notification concerning my talk page edit summary. Can any Admin remove it please? Kaz 21:20, 2 October 2012 (UTC) And is there any way can I get a block on my talk page from ever getting it edited by non-Admins ever again please? I have suffered my fair share of harassment. Kaz 21:22, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

talk pages are protected only in exceptional circumstances; you can try requesting it, but I don't see any reason. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 21:32, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
and "stalker" is also a personal attack. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 21:33, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for chiming in!...

It seems like you are an experienced editor. Thank you so much for chiming in into this mess that is ongoing for the past month or so regarding Karaites and these so-called "Crimean Karaites." I have written a series of remarks and objections to this random, partial, religiously motivated rewriting of history, and no experienced editor to this date has reacted to the series of warnings I have posted along the way. The two edits you just did show you know what we are talking about here, and you are not going to be misled by false allegations. I have a pretty good of the historical issues, but my WP editing/administrative knowledge is still much weaker than I would like, especially to meet the enormous challenge that is being represented by this under-the-radar, stealth threat to WP's historical integrity. I am really grateful for any assistance you can provide. Regards, warshy 22:05, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I am not particularly knowledgeable about this topic, but there clearly is some hard-headed disruption going on. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 22:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Well, I'd say it is hard to fathom and to really describe in short, accurate sentences the amount of religiously motivated re-writing of history that has been going on in this area. I wish I was good enough at the art of "diffs" to show you how I warned about all this over a month ago, and now, today, this cancer really started to spread beyond my technical ability to contain it, or to really cope with it in a technically satisfactory manner. Unfortunately, I still have a lot to learn about the "art of the diff" here in WP to be able to do that in a couple of minutes. I think the adjective you used above is a very appropriate, and it does show that you know what I am talking about here. Thanks again for chiming in, as I was starting to consider just 'leaving WP to the vultures.' warshy 22:17, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

B. Hussein Soetoro

Why do you find this username inappropriate? NTox · talk 02:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind on this one. I've been informed. NTox · talk 03:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Pointy....

With regards to : I understand where you are coming from, but see WP:POINT. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 00:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't. Unless you want to remove the entire section. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 00:11, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
The original question is not particularly well stated, but has already collected a number of useful replies explaining e.g. how a mistaken impression of rudeness could arise. Your question is much more inflammatory, is unlikely to produce similarly useful answers, and runs afoul of WP:ARBR&I discretionary sanctions. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 00:16, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
I completely disagree; the initial post is blatant racism (albeit cloaked in polite language and some weird episode-derived theories) and the people politely answering it are either too naive or too whatever to notice it. My question "why would you even answer that?" didn't ring a bell either. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 00:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
So if somebody lets his dog poop on the street, do you gain anything by squatting down and leaving a bigger one? Why don't you explain your concern directly? If people are as naive as you think, they might assume you are a racist now. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 00:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
I just did. Now, are you willing to chime in and do something about the remaining racist post, or are you here to defend it? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 00:23, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

racist header

I suggest you modify "why are indians so rude" to "why am I offended by the personal interactions of certain Indians" or something similar. See WP:MOS re neutrality in section heads. (BTW, I would simply have hatted the discussion, but too many of the usual suspects have provided their "answers".)μηδείς (talk) 02:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

racist header

I suggest you modify "why are indians so rude" to "why am I personally offended by the actions of certain Indians" or something similarly neutral. See WP:NPOV. (BTW, I would simply have hatted the discussion, but too many of the usual suspects have provided their "answers".) μηδείς (talk) 02:13, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Crimean Karaites

Hello, your input would be appreciated more on the subject of the name and content of the article again which has arisen again here Talk:Crimean Karaites#Turkic Karaites - Edit request. Having read through the disputes thoroughly, I am getting the feeling that really this is all about a certain Ukrainian user who is going to maximum cry-wolf efforts to try and ensure that the article does not lose the "Crimean" label. Hope you will stay involved. Budo (talk) 11:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

thanks. I'll be observing the situation. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 20:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

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