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COSTA DEL SOL TOURIST BOARD NOTICE

THE COSTA DEL SOL TOURIST BOARD WOULD LIKE TO INFORM THAT WE ARE NO LONGER COOPERATING WITH THE WRITING OF THE ENGLISH ARTICLES ON MALAGA PROVINCE AND THE COSTA DEL SOL IN THE[REDACTED] PROJECT. COSTA DEL SOL TOURIST BOARD NOTICE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.55.52.201 (talk) 11:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

According to the official Misplaced Pages Verifiability Policy that appears in http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Verifiability, editors must indicate the source of their material so that readers can check its accuracy and neutrality.

The Costa del Sol Provincial Tourist Board –a non-profit organisation designated of public usefulness by the Council of Ministers of the Government of Spain (http://www.visitcostadelsol.com/content/view/461/221/) considers that the editor(s) of the article in question fails to comply with the Neutral Point of View Policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view), imposed on all editors and participants in this open-content encyclopaedia by James Wales, its co-founder.

“Costa del Crimen” is a term used by the yellow press to boost their sales, but it is not an accurate term depicting what really goes on on the Costa del Sol, which is one of the leading travel destinations in Spain, with 9.5M visitors a year. In fact, the crime rate in the region is no higher than in other areas in Spain or abroad with a similar number of inhabitants. The high number of visitors and their intention to come back in the future (65.3% say they would, according to recent surveys, cf. http://professionals.visitcostadelsol.com/bd/mostrar_fichero.php?ident=1567) prove this is a safe travel destination.

Likewise, describing the Costa del Sol as a heavily developed area also fails to comply with Misplaced Pages Neutral Point of View Policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view). Like many other regions in Spain and Europe, the Costa del Sol has undergone significant urban development over the past few years. However, as can be seen in the over 5,000 images of this travel destination in our website database (http://professionals.visitcostadelsol.com/bd/imagenes.php?menu=11), it boasts many green areas not just in major towns or municipalities but also on the outskirts

For these reasons, we would like to ask the Wikimedia Foundation and/ or the editor(s) of the article for permission to update the information it contains from an objective, unbiased point of view, so that we can then assert Misplaced Pages is a project really created by the whole web user community based on Web 2.0. If this is not possible, then we request you to show us the official data –rather than the gossip-based information– that bear out the statements made by the editor(s).

Trivia

I have removed the following piece of unverified fancruft trivia, as it is completely irrelevant to the text of the article:

In the videogame Final Fantasy VII, there is a seaside resort town called Costa Del Sol in the North Corel Area.

-- IslaySolomon | talk 02:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Costa del Sol Tourist Board

I have removed the paragraph in which "Costa del Sol" is called "Costa del Crime" since I don't believe it is known by this name. It is not fair to generalize, for some incidents that may have happened, and call this way this important tourist area. It could be harmful for this part of the Spanish tourist industry and it is not justified at all.

We're not here to act as a tourist guide which means that we provide all the info, positive or negative. Costa Del Crime was a name widely used so I've restored this sourced info. Valenciano (talk) 15:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

It is a clear violation of WP:Neutral point of view. This kind of serious accusations, as well as being completely false or slurs, must be supported by unquestionable and numerous sources, not by yellow press or gossip.--LTblb (talk) 17:16, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

It is already supported by numerous sources and those like the BBC and The Independent are certainly not "yellow press". I will again restore this info. Valenciano (talk) 17:30, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

The information about the most famous name that the area is refered to in English is Costa del Crime, it is famous for the reasons that were listed and being an Encyclopedia it is factual and not a holiday brochure and should be restored.--Rockysantos (talk) 17:52, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

The article said:"The majority are legitimate businessmen, but Britain currently has a list of 230 known criminals sheltering in Spain and many of them are believed to live in and around Puerto Banus..."

Malaga province has 1.7 million inhabitants, of which 72.852 are British, and article says it could be that some of these 230 known criminals were in Malaga, but there is no security at all of this.

Crime data in Malaga are very low, therefore, call the Costa del Sol, the Costa del Crime is simply giving sensationalist information. Absolutely shame and slurs.

The WP:Neutral point of view and Misplaced Pages:Fringe theories said that a Misplaced Pages article should not make a fringe theory appear more notable than it is. --LTblb (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

That the Costa del Sol is widely known in English as the Costa del Crime is not a theory, it is a fact, as demonstrated by numerous reliable sources. There is nothing fringe about sources like the BBC, The Observer, The Telegraph, The Irish Independent or the countless books which report the use of this term. WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a good reason for removing valid information. Valenciano (talk) 18:13, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Its called Costa del Crime for the facts listed, not because it has high crime. Again this is an Encyclopedia, not a holiday brochure or for properganda. --Rockysantos (talk) 18:15, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

The first anonymous user (2009) speaks very clear.- "“Costa del Crimen” is a term used by the yellow press to boost their sales, but it is not an accurate term depicting what really goes on on the Costa del Sol, which is one of the leading travel destinations in Spain, with 9.5M visitors a year. In fact, the crime rate in the region is no higher than in other areas in Spain or abroad with a similar number of inhabitants. The high number of visitors and their intention to come back in the future (65.3% say they would, according to recent surveys, cf. http://professionals.visitcostadelsol.com/bd/mostrar_fichero.php?ident=1567) prove this is a safe travel destination."

In the history section seems to only talk about 'Costa del Crime', that's just propaganda about sensationalism information with a very clear intention of harming the tourist destination, enacting a fringe theories, something that is forbidden in the policies of Misplaced Pages ... And none of the references are conclusive at all ... Instead, these references show that that denomination is yellow journalism.--LTblb (talk) 18:36, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

And you Rockysantos , is the least likely to speak, probably being a Portuguese who lives in Gibraltar, which is dedicated to improving tourist items of Portugal, like here or here, and come here, to enact defamatory information about the Costa del Sol, something that might be reportable .... Shame. --LTblb (talk) 18:45, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

As has been said, (twice!) already , the sources are numerous and from press sources such as The BBC and The Observer, which no credible person can describe as yellow press. If you disagree, then Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard is the place to go to make your argument that they are yellow press and unreliable sources. Simply repeating an argument which has already been (WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT) countered is not the way to go. Additionally making personal attacks against users or their motives (see WP:NPA) is ill advised. Valenciano (talk) 18:56, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Costa del Sol Tourist Board

I have removed Elviria in section of towns of Malaga because it is not a town, is a residential of Marbella —Preceding unsigned comment added by Costa del Sol tourist board (talk • contribs) 16:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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