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This article was nominated for deletion on 13 September 2013 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

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Reason for deletion of images from Commons

I took out the reason for deletion of the images since I don't think it's all that clear (see here, but note that we can't use our own deletion discussions as a reliable source -- as far as I know -- someone please let me know if there's a precedent). The whole section really needs more third-party coverage; it's hard to write articles about things that happened on Misplaced Pages itself without having that. I commented in more detail on my user talk page in response to the article creator's question. Antandrus (talk) 23:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

File:Basjanaderyoutube.png Nominated for Deletion

An image used in this article, File:Basjanaderyoutube.png, has been nominated for deletion at Wikimedia Commons in the following category: Deletion requests - No timestamp given What should I do? Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so. If the image is non-free then you may need to upload it to Misplaced Pages (Commons does not allow fair use) If the image isn't freely licensed and there is no fair use rationale then it cannot be uploaded or used. This notification is provided by a Bot --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 05:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

File:Pinocchio taken down by security.ogv Nominated for Deletion

An image used in this article, File:Pinocchio taken down by security.ogv, has been nominated for deletion at Wikimedia Commons in the following category: Deletion requests - No timestamp given What should I do? Don't panic; a discussion will now take place over on Commons about whether to remove the file. This gives you an opportunity to contest the deletion, although please review Commons guidelines before doing so. If the image is non-free then you may need to upload it to Misplaced Pages (Commons does not allow fair use) If the image isn't freely licensed and there is no fair use rationale then it cannot be uploaded or used. This notification is provided by a Bot --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 05:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Content removed by IP

A section was blanked by an IP and unsourced content was removed. I'm parking the diff here in case it is useful. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:48, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Attempting NPOV revision

Hello all, I am attempting an NPOV revision of this entry on my sandbox here: User:Theredproject/sandbox. Horvitz is a notable artist. I think that part of the problem is that he makes some of his work on or about Misplaced Pages, which has brought out the deletionists. Also, he has a large fanbase, and it seems like some of them have missed the forest, but wrote about few trees. Going to cut some of those trees back, and plant some seedlings. Please hit me up here, or on my talk page if you are interested in jumping in to the revision. --Theredproject (talk) 17:26, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I made the revision. --Theredproject (talk) 21:05, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for you efforts to clean up the article. I made some additional edits to further remove off topic and fluffy content. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:49, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

I'd list to assist artist David Horvitz in trying to delete his Misplaced Pages page properly, please help

Hello, my name is Joe, and I'm an intern and have helped David Horvitz on many of his Misplaced Pages based projects. His newest endeavor is to attempt to delete his own Misplaced Pages page.

I want to be able to help him and accomplish that. I'm new to the whol Wiki editing/deleting and I've accidentally thought deleting the content would bring on a deletion, but it brought on moderators claiming me as an abuser and vandal, which is incorrect.

I want to be able delete the page properly and it's public knowledge that the artist wants this to happen, if you can help me with this and provide me the information to do so according to Misplaced Pages's rules and regulations, I'd greatly appreciate it.

I've attached a link from ArtInfo that mentions this project of his to delete his own Misplaced Pages page. Any help would be great! |timestamp = 20130913141016

NOTE:I moved this unsigned comment (above) to its proper location and removed the improper use of the template. Meanwhile the AfD discussion is here. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:54, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Watch and learn.--Nowa (talk) 23:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 December 2013

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178.19.208.178 (talk) 18:37, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. LittleMountain5 19:08, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Notability

Notwithstanding the prior "I want my page deleted" request, after reviewing the references, I can only find a single reliable secondary source (LA Times article). Are there more?--Nowa (talk) 23:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree it was a very questionable AfD discussion (and outcome), with people getting side-tracked with a number of tangential issues. There was almost a bloody-mindedness that, if someone wanted their wiki page deleted, the community at any cost wasn't going to allow it. Sionk (talk) 23:16, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, to avoid a more serious AfD, I'll try to find more references.--Nowa (talk) 23:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Per the recent discussion here , a new AfD has been on my back burner. If you can build credibility, Nowa, terrific. Otherwise this is a decent candidate for another deletion discussion. JNW (talk) 23:30, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks. Any thoughts on where to look? Art really isn't my thing.--Nowa (talk) 01:59, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
• I think we have notability covered. Three independent additional references have been added.--Nowa (talk) 18:03, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Undeletion request for File:26_pelican.jpg on Wikimedia Commons

I've put in an undeletion request for File:26_pelican.jpg originally posted by David Horvitz on Wikimedia Commons. The entry is here The image has become notable per Artist Conquers Misplaced Pages, One Image at a Time and it would contribute to this article. The image was put in the public domain per the original upload by David Horvitz. Interested users are invited to comment on the undeletion request--Nowa (talk) 20:55, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2014

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Horvitz was born in 1972 not 1981:

http://www.kunsthalcharlottenborg.dk/exhibition/view/104?lang=eng 86.42.251.189 (talk) 14:00, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

 Not done - This reference says he was born in 1981, this one says 1982, and your reference says 1972.
Given Mr Horvitz' previous interaction with Misplaced Pages, until we have a definite date, I think we should be cautious. - Arjayay (talk) 15:45, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done Done Done Three equally reliable secondary sources? Three birth dates.--Nowa (talk) 22:28, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

A conversation regarding this person

A conversation regarding this person is underway at: User_talk:Binksternet#Backside_of_Beachgoer_.E2.80.93_a_strange_little_wiki_tale

IMHO Horvitz is Misplaced Pages:Gaming the system via sockpuppets and disruptive behavior. a (2nd nomination) on the AfD to remove this page altogether might be in order. This "accomplishment" that crafted his notoriety was via his Misplaced Pages:Gaming the system and maintaining this page could persuade others to follow the same path of manipulation with the objective of creating self-serving notoriety. talk→ WPPilot  14:14, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

As the first AfD last September resulted in a snow keep, I advise against a second AfD. Cullen Let's discuss it 20:01, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

It was just a concept. talk→ WPPilot  21:23, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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Image representative of work

There are a number of images that are representative of Horovitz's work, but they've all been banned from commons. See this discussion related to Mood Disorder Any suggestions on how to get a representative image in this article? It seems silly to have an encyclopedia article about an artist and not show any of his/her work.--Nowa (talk) 11:52, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

My understanding of it all was that the act of posting photos on Misplaced Pages was the art engagement, not the photos themselves. Not sure how you'd illustrate that! Sionk (talk) 12:46, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Good point. Artnet uses this image as representative of "Misplaced Pages as the art engagement". Here is the context. See item 8. Can we use said image under a Fair Use rationale?--Nowa (talk) 00:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

No.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 01:48, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Inclusion of spouse name

I have recommended we include the name of David Horvitz's spouse in the article. Here is the proposed edit. I believe this edit is consistent with WP:BLPNAME. Rather than get in an edit war with other users, however, I would like to leave it to the rest of the community to reach consensus.--Nowa (talk) 12:48, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I can't see anything controversial about this, it's absolutely common to add (well sourced) personal background info to biographical articles. Sionk (talk) 13:07, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I only regret that due to his bizarre concepts and history of destructive and disruptive editing and posting, it is difficult or impossible to find the usual biographical information about the subject and be confident that it is correct; the birthdate question is a prime example. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:20, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm simply doubting that if it's even the right person. There's no telling with this guy.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 13:44, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, that is too true. "Well sourced" are the operative words (I'm a bit concerned overall that the article relies on Horvitz's online CVs). This article about Francie Bishop Good says her husband is Florida-based and chairman of the board of the Fort Lauderdale Museum of Art, while there's no evidence of a Fort lauderdale connection for 'our' elusive David Horvitz. Sionk (talk) 15:38, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm not convinced it's the same Horvitz and would expect to see some pretty clearcut evidence that it was first. The David Horvitz of this article does not sound like the David W. Horvitz who is the chair of the board of Musueum of Art|Fort Lauderdale (and to have had an auditorium named after him too). The City and Shore article doesn't refer to Ms. Good's hsuband as "artist David Horvitz", it says he is influential in the local art scene. Risker (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

On reflection, I'm pretty sure it is not the same David Horvitz. The one this article is about seems to be a West Coast guy, whereas the Ms. Good's husband is obviously a long time Florida guy. Risker (talk) 18:09, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the observation that this might be a different David Horvitz. I Googled their names together and came up with this picture. Clearly not the subject of this article. So unless I’ve missed something, I’m withdrawing my suggestion to add this spouse to the bio info.--Nowa (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Suitable Image

I have recommended that we include the following image as a notable example of the subject's work. Other editors have objected. I leave it up to the community to reach consensus on whether or not to include it.--Nowa (talk) 21:34, 17 July 2014 (UTC) 300px|left|thumb|Example of a Horvitz Misplaced Pages photograph showing "...the juxtaposition of subject matter (e.g., a monument, historical site, or otherwise) and Horvitz’s own body (often only partially visible)."

we are not going to host any of his bad quality disruptive photos on this article nor should they be included on the commons just because they fell through the cracks.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:30, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

i second Ryulong. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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