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] This investigation has been started to investigate RGloucester and suspected sock or meat puppet Jobrot. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:59, 22 February 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ] This investigation has been started to investigate RGloucester and suspected sock or meat puppet Jobrot. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:59, 22 February 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
== Blocked for sock puppetry == | |||
Per our ] undisclosed alternative accounts are not to be used in discussions internal to the project. Logging out to file a complaint against another user qualifies as such. It is clear from your knowledge of events that take place well prior to your edit history that you have prior history here. It is also clear you are using more than one IP to edit war and act disruptively at ]. | |||
If you wish to appeal this block please log into your regular account to do so. ] 17:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Let me know how that turns out for you. Being a brand new user jumping into a heated debate accusing another user of jumping into a heated debate is a bit rich, I am sure it will turn out well. ] 15:59, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
*Response to above paranoid schizophrenic behavior. Not an account holder nor am I a boggy man and never made any claim to be a new user so that makes you a liar as well. It seems your paranoid behavior has led to a knee jerk paranoid action. Sorry but that is the truth that you cannot handle. Hey go ahead and range block, as it a cellular IP you will only block a few million of a major provider. It would be another ignorant but predictable move. Your online friend also salted the well laid out SPI investigation about an obvious sock or meat puppet of RGlouchester and a brand new account Jobrot. Don't worry I saved it and will post elsewhere as more evidence of you get what you pay for which is not much when it is free. Interesting cultish behavior where without any evidence you make false accusation and attempt to bury well founded evidence. Keep up living in your little world of make believe. More evidence that project is failing to come close to its stated goal. Thanks for the evidence and your behavior is a bit rich. ] (]) 23:36, 22 February 2015 (UTC) |
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Importance versus Priority
Hello! I hope I didn't offend you here. I was not concerned about how to assess biograhies, only about the use of Importance versus Priority in doing so, where guideline looks like it's being disregarded by some people almost to an extreme. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:54, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- Asked a question on my talk. SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:25, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
- How could we go about, if at all, trying to stop a user from continuing to use "Importance", rather than as per guideline using "Priority", in assessing a huge amoung of biographies? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:27, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
- I've followed your advice at Template talk:WPBannerMeta, and I hope it's OK that I used some of your wording, since I don't really feel I know what I'm doing. Thank you in any case! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 05:20, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- Is is unreasonable of me to ask the user I've seen ignoring the guideline for years to stop for now, while the Template talk:WPBannerMeta is ongoing? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 00:02, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- I've followed your advice at Template talk:WPBannerMeta, and I hope it's OK that I used some of your wording, since I don't really feel I know what I'm doing. Thank you in any case! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 05:20, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
- How could we go about, if at all, trying to stop a user from continuing to use "Importance", rather than as per guideline using "Priority", in assessing a huge amoung of biographies? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 22:27, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Could you please explain here, sir, why you directed me to that talk page? The main input person in that discussion does not seem to understand that and keeps referring me elsewhere. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Invitation
Since you offered to comment on my talk page, you're welcome to chime in on the conversation at regarding a new section with multiple reliable sources.--GodBlessYou2 (talk) 05:53, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Astronomy Project and DRN
If you want to try to moderate the Astronomy issue, you are welcome to do so, but I don't see an issue that can be addressed by moderated discussion. There are complaints about an editor's use of a tool. The privilege of using a tool isn't within the scope of DRN (as you know). There are also questions about capitalization, and I agree with you that discussion should probably be at the MOS talk page, possibly with an RFC. Good luck, but it looks like a case heading for general closure. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:49, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Christianity and Sexuality opened
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There is a new WikiProject you may be interested in
This is a form letter sent out to members of WikiProject Lead section cleanup.
I am contacting you because you are listed as a participant of the now defunct WikiProject Lead section cleanup. I have created a new WikiProject, WikiProject Lede Improvement Team (name subject to change), that likely has the same goals as the project that you signed up for was supposed to have. If improving the lede sections of articles is something you are still interested in, please stop by and add yourself as a participant. As well, if you have any thoughts regarding your previous experience with lede section cleanup, please stop by and share them. Thank you, DiscantX 08:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Remarkable deletions on Soka Gakkai talk page
Could you have a look at the conversation mentioned? Puzzles me a bit. --Catflap08 (talk) 11:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Catflap08: Any particular indicators exactly whose comments or which comments? There seem to have been quite a few lately. John Carter (talk) 15:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
The ones about the Ogasawara incident. --Catflap08 (talk) 18:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Ongoing WER Consultation
I wonder if I might cut you recent comment to the thread How many women have been involved in these discussions? and start a new thread titled 'Special characteristics. There are so many lively threads, which is great, but I'm sure you know that keeping editors on thread topic is like herding cats. Thanks for all you involvement at WER. Sidebar: In case you ever want some "consulting" or insight on one individuals experiences (Me) I just wanted to say that I have taken the Est course (70's), Lifespring (80's) and Landmark (2000+). I watched a little bit of the recent case to combine the articles but I stayed on the sidelines. Also, in the 60's, I was the Building Engineer for a multi-use building in Evanston that had as one of its major tenants----The Church of Scientology. I don't know why I needed to say all that but I just wanted you to know. I never once felt there was the least bit of similarity between Scientology and the other three...even in recruiting techniques. Buster Seven Talk 21:33, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Buster7: A new section sounds good. Regarding Scientology/Landmark and the others, believe me when I say anyone who knows anything about the topic would be welcome. The idea isn't really so much to merge est/Landmark/etc. but to create a central article, if there is cause for one, which there seems to be. Maybe. Maybe est should be a separate article - honestly, I still don't know. I doubt that there is much real "similarity" between them, other than the fact that they are profit oriented and in the same basic area - actually, if they were similar, one would probably have beat out the other in competition. I think I said to Liz I could even see Scientology become really revived and maybe even theologically interesting if it had a "gospel writer" to update Hubbard, but I don't think that likely to happen. Personally, I've kind of been waiting for NYB to return, which he said he'll do tomorrow, because I think he might be the best "drafter" for anyway RfC proposals which might be put forward. And, maybe, for helping figure out how to format the discussion. None of those I requested involve themselves, other than I think Keithbob, Liz and Maunus, have shown any interest in taking part, but the Macedonia arb was resolved with only three uninvolved parties, so even a small number will do. Maybe check the Landmark talk page for the next few days and see if anything actually happens. At heart, I would like to see the issue resolved, one way or another, and maybe the content improved to a level where most people will leave it alone and spend time more productively elsewhere. John Carter (talk) 21:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Buster7: as the first wound up being a typo. John Carter (talk) 21:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- I have just now invited Editor LightBreather to invite the 80 or so editors from the members list that seem to her as though they may be women. I realize I do it with a little tongue in cheek trying to make the point that we can't really know the gender of an editor. Its really too bad that the discussion and the focus is now on this tangent but ......Buster Seven Talk 08:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- After todays events and the potential for future upsetting eventsI have stepped aside from any talk facilitating or involvement for at least a month. Rumor has it that you may soon be talking a months sabbatical. I'll facilitate the Eddy Award stuff but that's all. I look forward to working with you again in March.Buster Seven Talk 23:07, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Buster7: as the first wound up being a typo. John Carter (talk) 21:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Religions of the Hebrew Bible (Spring 2015) -- starting soon
John, Just wanted to let my course starts tomorrow. We meet M and Ws. I'm not asking students to do anything with Misplaced Pages until after the first two class sessions, but some may want to begin sooner.
Thank you again for your willingness to serve as an online ambassador for the course! Education Program:Miami University/Religions of the Hebrew Bible (Spring 2015)
Take care, ProfGray (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2015)
The opening of the Beethoven Symphony No. 5, a famous symphony.
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Thank you
Thanks for your support at ANI. I'm at my wits end trying to make edits to New Jersey. I have no idea how this has been allowed to go on for so long. I'm about to move on to some other state. He's just made it so unhappy there. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 02:35, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Time you get one Catflap08 (talk) 19:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC) |
- Thank you very much. John Carter (talk) 00:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
ARCA
@NE Ent:, while I acknowledge your statement at ARCA is obviously true, that doesn't address the question raised. Nor does the recent apparent retirement of someone who retired an earlier name already, only to come back under a new name, indicate that even that retirement is necessarily likely to be of any long term. Your current comment could be seen as indicating that the request should not go forward, and I hope that perhaps you modify your comment to indicate that the request does not become invalid, either in this particular case or in general. I honestly don't know if the situation has been raised before, but I have difficulty imagining it might not be raised again. John Carter (talk) 00:03, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- And my apologies for misusing my privilege of editing this talk page during the current proceedings. However, I do think that the thank you to @Catflap08: and request for clarification were justified, and thought it perhaps worth running the risk of violation of talk page editing privileges anyway. My word, which I think is of some value, is hereby given that I have no intentions of doing so any further. John Carter (talk) 00:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
As a WER coordinator
I wonder if you could add Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Nominations to your watchlist. I don't expect you to second nominations (that is what the page is for, although that would nice). Rarely there is a discussion regarding policy. There is one now. Your input would be helpful. Buster Seven Talk 21:38, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Adjusting pilot start date - WP:Co-op
Hello John Carter,
I'll be putting out a formal update sometime soon, but I wanted to inform you that I've decided to push our start date back to mid-February rather than in January. There are number of reasons for this, but the biggest factor is that we are now facing the hard work of implementing our designs on the Mediawiki interface. It's a limiting environment to work with from a web-building perspective, and the team that worked on the Teahouse can offer similar testimonials to these challenges. We also want to make sure there is time for us and for you to test the environment out, ask questions at our project's talk page, and give us a little time to make any last changes before we start inviting editors to the space. If some of you know you will be unavailable during this time, it's totally fine if you need to bow out for the pilot. But we do need all the mentors we can get, so even if you can take the time to mentor just one or two editors, that would be fantastic.
Thanks a bunch,
I, JethroBT on behalf of Misplaced Pages:Co-op.
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Arbitration clarification request closed
Hi John, just letting you know that I've archived an arbitration clarification request which you filed. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2015)
Freeze dried coffee, an example of the application of food science
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WP: RETENTION
We haven't forgotten you. We await your return. GoodDay (talk) 03:40, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- When that happens, I hope to have at least a few more works done or at least close to done over at Wikisource for use by editors here. John Carter (talk) 16:51, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
- About a week to go. We're waiting for ya. GoodDay (talk) 03:34, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Hopefully, by that time, I might have some of the articles from some of James Hastings' old books, and some other sources, available as well. John Carter (talk) 16:06, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- While you're on this forced vacation can you take a look at User talk:Buster Spade and tell me what you think. It's like a pre-nomination stage where the idea is to engage wiki-friends and get them involved in the process and share their experiences to make the nom more specific. When it (contact with a cohort) has happened in the past the result is awesome. You too, GD. Your input is always welcome. . Buster Seven Talk 16:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Formal mediation has been requested
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This week's article for improvement (week 7, 2015)
Empire Field, stadium made with temporary structures, cheaper than permanent.
Hello, John Carter.
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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 1
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Has WikiProject X changed the world yet? No.
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- "Working on requested articles, utilising the reliable sources section, and having an active WikiProject to ask questions in really helped me learn how to edit Misplaced Pages and looking back I don't know how long I would have stayed editing without that project." – Sam Walton on WikiProject Video Games
- "I believe that the main problem of the Wikiprojects is that they are complicated to use. There should be a a much simpler way to check what do do, what needs to be improved etc." – Tetra quark
- "In the late 2000s, WikiProject Film tried to emulate WP:MILHIST in having coordinators and elections. Unfortunately, this was not sustainable and ultimately fell apart." – Erik
Of course, these are just anecdotes. While they demonstrate what is possible, they do not necessarily explain what is typical. We will be using this information in conjunction with a quantitative analysis of WikiProjects, as documented on Meta. Particularly, we are interested in the measurement of WikiProject activity as it relates to overall editing in that WikiProject's subject area.
We also have 50 people and projects signed up for pilot testing, which is an excellent start! (An important caveat: one person volunteering a WikiProject does not mean the WikiProject as a whole is interested; just that there is at least one person, which is a start.)
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About your (non)participation in the January 2012 SOPA vote
Hi John Carter. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Misplaced Pages. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Misplaced Pages's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (92nd), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Misplaced Pages researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
WP:Co-op news for December 2014 – Feburary 2015
Hey John Carter, it's been a while. The Co-op team has been hard at work during over the winter, so let's get right into what's been happening:
- Graphic design work is nearing completion and development work is coming along slowly but surely. The main components of the space, profiles, the landing page, and the mentor landing page have all been built, and we're basically just putting the pieces together. We have close-to-final draft of the landing page, which is currently at User:Slalani/Landing_page, and in the thumbnail to the right. You can check out other components over at User:Slalani if you're curious. Soni, Slalani, and I are working together on some of the front page elements. We've also been doing some testing on test.wikipedia.org for profile building and matching. If you're curious about checking that out, let me know.
- We've finished up a survey for newer editors to assess their experiences of using existing help spaces (e.g. Reference Desk, Teahouse, IRC, The Misplaced Pages Adventure) on en.wikipedia. Gabrielm199 is putting together a summary of that survey, and in the meantime, some findings from that survey of 45 newer editors include:
- On average, editors found contributing to Misplaced Pages to be easier after using the help space compared to before.
- However, after using one or more help spaces, only half of editors reported that editing, addressing social challenges, and resolving technical issues were easy or very easy. The other half of editors were either neutral, or reported that these matters were difficult or very difficult.
- Just under 30% (11 of 38 editors) of newer editors said they probably would have stopped editing entirely had they not received support from the help space they used.
- Editors frequently reported either 1) that they would not have been learn what they needed without the help space, or 2) That they could have found it, but admitted that it would have been difficult or taken much longer.
- On average, editors found contributing to Misplaced Pages to be easier after using the help space compared to before.
- We will be making one final move of the pilot start date to March 4th, 2015. This is the last move (I promise), because we can't afford to run the pilot any later than that. So there it is: March 4th or bust! But we won't bust, because there are just a few things left on our plate before we can run our pilot successfully. I'll be alerting you about when you will be able to make mentor profiles soon, so when you get a message about that, please take a minute or two to create your profile here (otherwise, you won't get matched to any editors!).
Thanks to all of the new mentors who have joined over the past few months. Big thanks to Missvain to posting about our little project here to the gendergap-l mailing list. I, JethroBT 00:47, 13 February 2015 (UTC) on behalf of Misplaced Pages:Co-op.
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Valentine Greets!!!
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Request for mediation rejected
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This week's article for improvement (week 8, 2015)
A Sicilian ice cream parlour
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An Sock puppet investigation concerning Cultural Marxism Deletion
] This investigation has been started to investigate RGloucester and suspected sock or meat puppet Jobrot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.56.15.36 (talk) 12:59, 22 February 2015 (UTC)