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::I think at this point, the only thing we can do is let the truth be the truth and wait for the record to be corrected to match the DD-214. Which it will, eventually. It doesn't seem that anything you or I or anyone else says will change the other individual's mind because they appear to believe Kyle was a liar and our opinions are based solely on POV. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 03:12, 3 June 2016 (UTC) ::I think at this point, the only thing we can do is let the truth be the truth and wait for the record to be corrected to match the DD-214. Which it will, eventually. It doesn't seem that anything you or I or anyone else says will change the other individual's mind because they appear to believe Kyle was a liar and our opinions are based solely on POV. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 03:12, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
::: It's only one editor. I'm done trying to convince him. Until the DD215 is filed, the article should reflect the only RS available which is the DD214 as well as consensus which is 2 SS and 5 BS. --] (]) 03:27, 3 June 2016 (UTC) ::: It's only one editor. I'm done trying to convince him. Until the DD215 is filed, the article should reflect the only RS available which is the DD214 as well as consensus which is 2 SS and 5 BS. --] (]) 03:27, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

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Likely fading out

I'm nearing my pain threshold for this website mainly due to the blatant left wing bias that permeates it in every corner. I used to recommend some areas for basic referencing that had little partisan partic.ipation...but that is now rarely the course. Surely I'm getting older now and my perspective is more conservative than some child still in college. But I'm facinated that so many "adults" still cling to adolescent liberal notions, failing to grasp Churchill's oft cited comments in essence that if a child is not liberal they have no heart, but if still liberal as an adult one lacks a brain. Its like Sanders supporters....do they really understand what communism is? Of course not....they think the money tree is infinite or that everyone should be equally poor.--MONGO 04:00, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Definitely a sense of entitlement is manifesting itself. "Progressive" has been co-opted by a "me first" generation that doesn't support social progress at all. They lack the fundamental understanding of what "free" means. Someday they may realize that the evil capitalists railroad robber barons were the richest people of their time and still needed a chamber pot - the poorest of us today have more wealthy comforts than the richest capitalists only a century ago. Getting in the way of that type of advancement in wealth is very regressive and severely impacts the next generation in a very selfish way. --DHeyward (talk) 07:50, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


Chris Kyle

I've left some comments at the talk page of the article regarding the latest kerfuffle there. My feeling is that once the PP expires, the status quo in the article regarding the awards needs to be restored. Thoughts? -- WV 03:11, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Thst'd be my thought. The Intercept is not a reliable source considering what they strung together. They found a way to use USA Today's article on secret awards with redacted citations to defame Kyle. Thry are the ones that are stealing valor. --DHeyward (talk) 03:52, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
I think at this point, the only thing we can do is let the truth be the truth and wait for the record to be corrected to match the DD-214. Which it will, eventually. It doesn't seem that anything you or I or anyone else says will change the other individual's mind because they appear to believe Kyle was a liar and our opinions are based solely on POV. -- WV 03:12, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
It's only one editor. I'm done trying to convince him. Until the DD215 is filed, the article should reflect the only RS available which is the DD214 as well as consensus which is 2 SS and 5 BS. --DHeyward (talk) 03:27, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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