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	:::::::I could go through the archives of this article to learn exactly when, but four or five years ago NatGeo or Cineflix(I think it was Cineflix) said there was an upcoming episode on ]. It was never made. These are usually RS but that makes you think nothing should be listed till we have an actual airdate. For some reason an episode can be announced but not made. BTW I am the creator of the article on the Northwest Airlink crash that is supposedly going to be made into an episode. A very interesting accident. I have created <s>20 to 30</s> 45 crash articles and YSSYguy has sometimes worked with me on them.], is the complaint department really on ] 23:06, 7 January 2017 (UTC)		:::::::I could go through the archives of this article to learn exactly when, but four or five years ago NatGeo or Cineflix(I think it was Cineflix) said there was an upcoming episode on ]. It was never made. These are usually RS but that makes you think nothing should be listed till we have an actual airdate. For some reason an episode can be announced but not made. BTW I am the creator of the article on the Northwest Airlink crash that is supposedly going to be made into an episode. A very interesting accident. I have created <s>20 to 30</s> 45 crash articles and YSSYguy has sometimes worked with me on them.], is the complaint department really on ] 23:06, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
	::::::::I remember when that occured. They tried to produce an episode with that, but it according to (A producer for Mayday at Cineflix at that time). However, Air New Zealand was never listed on any NatGeo which was the calling card to omit it from the article. ANZ 901 for Mayday is a textbook example that a RS is not always true. This is why I was told to wait until 2 RS were confirming the same thing before adding episodes, two seasons ago. ] (]) 23:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)		::::::::I remember when that occured. They tried to produce an episode with that, but it according to (A producer for Mayday at Cineflix at that time). However, Air New Zealand was never listed on any NatGeo which was the calling card to omit it from the article. ANZ 901 for Mayday is a textbook example that a RS is not always true. This is why I was told to wait until 2 RS were confirming the same thing before adding episodes, two seasons ago. ] (]) 23:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
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			Fine! Of course you named it "supposedly". If you EVER attempt to put the "SUPPOSEDLY" Season 17 episodes on the article, even with a confirmed air date or is actually aired, I will delete them! ] (]) 12:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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Punctuation improvements request

We need some commas in the S14E05 description, S14E11 description and the UPS 6 description to improve punctuation:

'flips over, bursting into flames'

'As of February 2015, the Boeing 777-200ER has not been found'

'land back at the airport, but are unsuccessful'

Rest of Season 16 and Season 17

http://www.natgeotv.com/uk/shows/natgeo/air-crash-investigation

This link contains not only Episodes 6-10 of Season 16 but also the first two episodes of Season 17! No air dates yet for any of these episodes. The accidents involved based upon this link and their titles are: For Season 16:

S16E07: Crash in the Alps (Unknown incident)

S16E08: River Runway (Garuda Indonesia Flight 421)

S16E09: (AirAsia Flight 8501))

S16E10: (National Airlines Flight 102)

For Season 17:

S17E01: (Northwest Airlink Flight 5719)

S17E02: (Comair Flight 3272)

This will be an interesting ending to Season 16 and a spectacular beginning to Season 17. I tried to make the edit, but I noticed that the page has been blocked for some reason. I don't know what happened since I was away, but when will it be back to normal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tntad (talk • contribs) 14:55, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

So this link has the airdates for Deadly Solution (AirAsia Flight 8501) and Murder in the Skies (UK title is Crash in the Alps). The accident is Germanwings Flight 9525. http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/tv/air-crash-investigation/episodes.aspx?series=15

Sorry that I did not put this in earlier, but it was missing from my original post. Tntad (talk) 15:06, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

I can't add them on because this article is fully protected. Can we at least change the lock to silver again? I want to edit this article again.MattChatt18 (talk) 18:45, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

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Can someone change the lock back to silver again? I told Dkendel to stop. I feel like editing this article again for improvements or changes. Thanks. MattChatt18 (talk) 15:55, 22 December 2016 (UTC) MattChatt18 (talk) 15:55, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done to request a change in protection level, please see WP:RFPP. — xaosflux 02:44, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

If you are going to have a page fully blocked from editing, then it is irresponsible to not respond to the talk page even days later. I suggest that the proper way to resolve this is for an administrator to monitor the talk page or resuce the full edit-block. Otherwise it gives a negative image about the people that do have editing capabilities at this point. Tntad (talk) 08:45, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Fine! It looks like I will NEVER edit this article again! DAMN! MattChatt18 (talk) 14:13, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

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I want someone to add the info about episode 7 and 8 for season 16 of Mayday that i have written under this. Season 16 of the Mayday series contains 10 episodes, but just 6 are on Misplaced Pages. I hope i also can add the info about episode 9 and 10. Thank you. User:Dkendel

1377"Murder in the Skies"Germanwings Flight 95252017 (2017)

On 24 March 2015, an Airbus A320-211 operated by Germanwings, crashes 100 kilometres (62 mi) north-west of Nice in the French Alps after a constant descent that begins one minute after the last routine contact with air traffic control. All 144 passengers and six crew members got killed.

Type of aircraft: Airbus A320-211

1388"River Runway"Garuda Indonesia Flight 4212017 (2017)

On January 16 2002, a Boeing 737-300 loses both of it engines after it flies into a thunderstorm containing heavy rain and hail which results in a loss of all generated electrical power. The plane did a successful ditching in the Bengawan Solo River that only caused one fatality.

Type of aircraft: Boeing 737-3Q8

Dkendel (talk) 09:10, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Done no response in 3 days, so assuming this is uncontroversial — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:40, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

@MSGJ:, it is unreferenced. This page has a long history of putting entries in that are untrue Secondly, this is the holiday season. Many editors have slowed down. Three days is hardly sufficient. It is a holiday weekend.

Bottom line- I object to entries without a WP:RS and BTW Imdb does not qualify as one....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 20:45, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

I got you two reliable sources:

http://www.natgeotv.com/uk/shows/natgeo/air-crash-investigation

http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/tv/air-crash-investigation/episodes.aspx?series=15

You're welcome. "Murder in the Skies" (Crash in the Alps for UK) airs January 23rd in UK, "River Runway" airs January 30th in UK, "Deadly Solution" airs February 7th in Australia, and no known air date for Episode 10, but it is listed on the NatGeoUK Website. I like to keep an open mind too, but this is indisputable evidence that these episodes are legitimate. Also, first two episodes of season 17 are listed on NatGeoUK too. No airdate or title, but the accidents are included in the description. Tntad (talk) 21:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Season 17 episodes removed

There is nothing in the IC provided for a season 17. It goes up to season 16....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 03:21, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

I came to the conclusion of the first two episodes of Season 17 based upon the same source for episodes 7-10 which were under "Season 15": http://www.natgeotv.com/uk/shows/natgeo/air-crash-investigation If you click under "Season 16" (The NatGeo pages are 1 number behind the Discovery Seasons), two episodes labeled "Killer Attitude" and "Deadly Myth" are shown with descriptions of Northwest Airlink Flight 5719 and Comair Flight 3272. NatGeoUK uses the same URL for episode lists despite which season you select. I am not entirely sure what you mean by IC, but could you explain? Thanks. Tntad (talk) 04:30, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

You are making a mistake, William. Although it says season 16, it's actually season 17. Mistakes happen. MattChatt18 (talk) 10:08, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

WP:IC is another word for reference. It means Inline citation. The page says season 16. You think it is wrong but that's an opinion or WP:OR. Thirdly, the section even says "Per WP:TVUPCOMING, do not include 2017 until episodes have actually aired in 2017" They haven't aired nor do you have a date for them, nor are they season 17 per WP:RS. Removed again....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:29, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

So basically this dispute is over two people saying that, when NatGeo says "Season 16", what it means is "Season 16 and a bit of Season 17". What is the basis for this point of view? If it is because the previous season was 10 episodes, that's not enough - you need to provide a decent source saying that season 16 is ten episodes. Mattchat, you wailed and gashed your teeth and behaved as if the world had come to an untimely end when the article was fully-protected; it will likely be fully-protected again if this issue is not sorted out here. YSSYguy (talk)

Thanks for making it clear, William. I forgot to remove the 2017 and 10 Episodes when I was reviewing my edit before it was published. YSSYguy is right. It is best to discuss any major disputes in a calm manner before re-reverting people's edits and assuming them as false. This is why talk pages exist to prevent this kind of behavior. As the person who initially added the Season 17 episodes section to the article, I think it is best to just leave aside for now until another source can explain it further. I am not saying that NatGeoUK is incorrect, but it should remain off the article until we can be fully confident with the status of those two episodes. It won't be the end of the world if we have the patience. Tntad (talk) 22:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

I could go through the archives of this article to learn exactly when, but four or five years ago NatGeo or Cineflix(I think it was Cineflix) said there was an upcoming episode on Air New Zealand Flight 901. It was never made. These are usually RS but that makes you think nothing should be listed till we have an actual airdate. For some reason an episode can be announced but not made. BTW I am the creator of the article on the Northwest Airlink crash that is supposedly going to be made into an episode. A very interesting accident. I have created ~~20 to 30~~ 45 crash articles and YSSYguy has sometimes worked with me on them....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:06, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

I remember when that occured. They tried to produce an episode with that, but it "did not pan out" according to Shannon Foerter (A producer for Mayday at Cineflix at that time). However, Air New Zealand was never listed on any NatGeo which was the calling card to omit it from the article. ANZ 901 for Mayday is a textbook example that a RS is not always true. This is why I was told to wait until 2 RS were confirming the same thing before adding episodes, two seasons ago. Tntad (talk) 23:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

~~ Fine! Of course you named it "supposedly". If you EVER attempt to put the "SUPPOSEDLY" Season 17 episodes on the article, even with a confirmed air date or is actually aired, I will delete them! MattChatt18 (talk) 12:05, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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