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::I am actually against the lifetime ban. I know what VJ said in the past, but when his mind's right, he does some good work on here. A "cooling off" period may be a good idea, but not a permanent one. VJ -- why don't you relax between now, and say, April 2? Maybe a four week ban, and you're back in time to edit WrestleMania? ] (]) 13:56, 7 March 2017 (UTC) ::I am actually against the lifetime ban. I know what VJ said in the past, but when his mind's right, he does some good work on here. A "cooling off" period may be a good idea, but not a permanent one. VJ -- why don't you relax between now, and say, April 2? Maybe a four week ban, and you're back in time to edit WrestleMania? ] (]) 13:56, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
:::{{u|Kjscotte34}} All due respect, I'd rather voluntarily back away if things get heated around here. Remember, at the end of the day, Misplaced Pages editors are people, not robots - there will be disputes, because people (as a whole - not singling anybody out) get into disputes...it's what they do. As a 10 year Wikipedian, I want to be able to control my own fate, and not have to "sit in solitary" if you will. I'll be OK from a non-Wiki standpoint...all I ask from a Wiki standpoint is to be able to contribute, and not have people look at me like some kind of ogre. People like Mr. Spock and Sheldon Cooper (emotionless logic obsessed quasi-robots) are fictional. I think Wiki would be better served if some human factor was taken into account when things happen, because long after I'm gone, there will be others who have knockdown drag outs. You will never, ever NOT have disputes/arguments/fights on Misplaced Pages as long as people can edit it. If you open things up to all under the banner of collaboration, and then expect 100% perfect harmony and sameness, you will always be sadly disappointed, because people are always gonna be people. Not to say people can't try to better, but you will ALWAYS have some kind of issue. Want to completely avoid issues, then close it off to everyone other than a select few. Want to open it up to everybody, then you have to expect a bumpy road now and then. I can try to help make the road better, but to do that, I have to be here...I can't help make this place what it can by being on the outside looking in. All I'm saying is, that Wiki (and life in general) would work better overall if people can be be people and sometimes just allowing nature to take it's course instead of legislating everything to the nub. Not saying people shouldn't be slapped when needed (I was blocked 24 hours, that came and went, but then got changed to indefinite because of past sins that were already dealt with), but also that not everything needs to go right to "red alert" either. ] 14:54, 7 March 2017 (UTC) :::{{u|Kjscotte34}} All due respect, I'd rather voluntarily back away if things get heated around here. Remember, at the end of the day, Misplaced Pages editors are people, not robots - there will be disputes, because people (as a whole - not singling anybody out) get into disputes...it's what they do. As a 10 year Wikipedian, I want to be able to control my own fate, and not have to "sit in solitary" if you will. I'll be OK from a non-Wiki standpoint...all I ask from a Wiki standpoint is to be able to contribute, and not have people look at me like some kind of ogre. People like Mr. Spock and Sheldon Cooper (emotionless logic obsessed quasi-robots) are fictional. I think Wiki would be better served if some human factor was taken into account when things happen, because long after I'm gone, there will be others who have knockdown drag outs. You will never, ever NOT have disputes/arguments/fights on Misplaced Pages as long as people can edit it. If you open things up to all under the banner of collaboration, and then expect 100% perfect harmony and sameness, you will always be sadly disappointed, because people are always gonna be people. Not to say people can't try to better, but you will ALWAYS have some kind of issue. Want to completely avoid issues, then close it off to everyone other than a select few. Want to open it up to everybody, then you have to expect a bumpy road now and then. I can try to help make the road better, but to do that, I have to be here...I can't help make this place what it can by being on the outside looking in. All I'm saying is, that Wiki (and life in general) would work better overall if people can be be people and sometimes just allowing nature to take it's course instead of legislating everything to the nub. Not saying people shouldn't be slapped when needed (I was blocked 24 hours, that came and went, but then got changed to indefinite because of past sins that were already dealt with), but also that not everything needs to go right to "red alert" either. ] 14:54, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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March 2017 WikiCup newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. It would have been 5 points, but when a late entrant was permitted to join the contest in February, a promise was made that his inclusion would not result in the exclusion of any other competitor. To achieve this, the six entrants that had the lowest positive score of 4 points have been added to the 64 people who otherwise would have qualified. As a result, some of the groups have nine contestants rather than eight. Our top four scorers in round 1 were:

  • Scotland Cas Liber, last year's winner, led the field with two featured articles on birds and a total score of 674.
  • European Union Iry-Hor, a WikiCup newcomer, came next with a featured article, a good article and a tally of 282 bonus points for a score of 517. All these points came from the article Nyuserre Ini, an Ancient Egyptian pharaoh,
  • Japan 1989, another WikiCup newcomer, was in joint third place at 240. 1989 has claimed points for two featured lists and one good article relating to anime and comedy series, all of which were awarded bonus points.
  • South Australia Peacemaker67 shared third place with five good articles and thirteen good article reviews, mostly on naval vessels. He is also new to the competition.

The largest number of DYKs have been submitted by Vivvt and The C of E, who each claimed for seven, and MBlaze Lightning achieved eight articles at ITN. Carbrera and Peacemaker67 each claimed for five GAs and Krishna Chaitanya Velaga was well out in front for GARs, having reviewed 32. No featured pictures, featured topics or good topics yet, but we have achieved three featured articles and a splendid total of fifty good articles.

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WWE denied the request

Wanted to pass this along. WWE issued a statement today that Swagger has not been granted his release, "Jack Swagger has not been granted a release from his WWE contract. When he is granted his release, Jack Swagger will remain under exclusive contract to WWE for 90 days and will be compensated accordingly during that period." Chris "WarMachineWildThing" 20:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Wanna fix this one too?

Wanna fix List of current champions in TNA Wrestling, Still has wrong champ listed.Chris "WarMachineWildThing" 04:23, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Oknazevad's talk page

If you want to discuss content, you can do that on the article's talk page. --NeilN 22:48, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Personal attacks

Information icon Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:NeilN. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:02, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

March 2017

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for personally attacking other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Acroterion (talk) 03:38, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

This kind of direct personal attack is utterly unacceptable. You've been around long enough to know better. Acroterion (talk) 03:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Acroterion So it's OK for him to call me an a**hole and a bully, but I can't defend myself...OK. Vjmlhds (talk) 03:45, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
That's a gross direct and personal attack you made in response to being scolded with a less-than-polite comparison for your hostile conduct here. You don't get to repay slights with interest. Acroterion (talk) 03:48, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Acroterion Why does Orangemike get to talk smack about me, but I can't defend myself...does him being an administrator make him special? He's not better than me. Vjmlhds (talk) 03:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
You've been confrontational with everyone you've interacted with this evening, and you're blocked to stop that disruption. Raising the ante to personal insult isn't a "defense," it's just obnoxious. Acroterion (talk) 03:57, 6 March 2017 (UTC).
Acroterion So I'm the bad guy? Anybody can say anything they want to me, but I just have to take it? Vjmlhds (talk) 04:00, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
This started with me saying, "Leave it alone please." How was that not polite and non-confrontational? --NeilN 04:05, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
NeilN Why is it always I have to leave it alone? I'm really feeling ganged up on around here. Vjmlhds (talk) 04:07, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Because you were in danger of being blocked for edit warring. The only editor who doesn't have to worry about edit warring on a user talk page is the user the talk page "belongs" to. A couple more posts on your part could have easily led to a block, then and there. --NeilN 04:13, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
You've been consistently confrontational and increasingly vituperative. So yes, you're the problem editor and you're blocked. Acroterion (talk) 04:11, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Acroterion So I'm just supposed to let people run over me? I'm just supposed to let people call me an a**hole and a bully and take it with a smile? Me being called names isn't a personal attack? Vjmlhds (talk) 04:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I was getting tired of having to repeat myself last night. No, you're not entitled to retaliate, you have an obligation to examine your own conduct when multiple editors complain. Retaliation with interest isn't a defense, it's an escalation of already offensive conduct. You were blocked for the last straw in a sustained pattern of aggressive behavior. When you conduct yourself as you did last night people are likely to make unflattering observations, and when you go into full-on attack mode as a perceived means of defense, you'll be blocked. Your block log isn't encouraging. If this happens again the next admin may not be as lenient with the block term. Acroterion (talk) 12:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Acroterion Who says these "multiple editors" are right and I'm wrong? I'm not obliged to do anything. I was attacked. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:01, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Read the post again, please. This was commenting on the tone of your post. --NeilN 14:05, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
NeilN So that makes it OK that he called me an a**hole? So an admin can do anything he wants to do to me, and it's OK, but if I fight back, I'm the bad guy...got it. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:12, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
He didn't call you an a**shole. Again, he was commenting on the tone of your post and how it could be easily read. --NeilN 14:19, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
NeilN Weasel words. Why use the word then? A name is a name, no matter how cute or professorial you try to dress it up in order to justify it. He called me an a**hole, I called him a dirty hippie. A name for a name. In the real world, people would think that we'd be even and leave it at that. Only in the convoluted world of Misplaced Pages does one editor (an almighty administrator at that) calling another an a**hole be proclaimed justified, but calling the other a name in return (the only reason i called him a name is because he called me one to start) a sin. You admins just stick together don't you? Vjmlhds (talk) 15:01, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
  • information Administrator note - @Acroterion:, with regard to the 24 hour editing block, per this version of the user's talk page, Vjmlhds, who has a history of edit-warring and personal attacks, volunteered to a permanent ban if he were to slip up again. This was a scant two months ago:
"OK...lesson learned. No need to bring the hammer down. I see you mean business, so you have my word of honor, that I'll shape up and tone things down. Point taken. No more edit warring, no more knockdown-drag-outs, and realizing an indef block is coming if I slip, I'll mind my Ps & Qs."
"I know my history, but just consider this my new year's resolution - no more fighting on Misplaced Pages. I'll go on record in saying that if I slip up again, you can permanently ban me from Misplaced Pages. My problem is I get suckered in too easily to battles. But with a permanent ban hanging over my head, that'll give me incentive to cool it. I'm going all in here, so you know I mean what I say."
"OK...I put all my cards on the table...one more slip, and I'm permanently gone...no do-overs, no nothing. No more edit warring...if even the slightest dispute comes about, I'll play by the book to get it resolved. That's it. No need to sit and stew for a week...one more, and I'm banned."
I don't know how we could get much clearer than that. Vjmlhds has demonstrated a persistent inability to control hot-headed behavior. It is ironic that someone who criticized another editor for taking "this stupid thing called Misplaced Pages WAY TOO SERIOUSLY", he keeps getting blocked for taking Misplaced Pages way too seriously. Vjmlhds has been blocked about ten times for edit-warring and personal attacks. A far different temperament is required when working in a collaborative environment. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Cyphoidbomb All right already. I've already been blocked. Let me take my medicine in peace, be done with this, and move on. I know what I said, and I meant it...I just didn't appreciate being called an a**hole...that's what set me off. Even people who quit smoking sometimes have a cig in times of stress. I'm working on it.Vjmlhds (talk) 16:52, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
If being compared to "an a**hole" with asterisks is all it takes to set you off you've got more work ahead. You pledged to accept a "permanent ban" and claim "I know what I said, and I meant it." Do you still mean it two months later? I gave you the benefit of the doubt because I wasn't familiar with your history, because you had a lengthy editing history and because it was late and I didn't want to make a snap judgment. All things in your favor. Right now I don't see a good reason not to hold you to your word and block indefinitely, as your response above appears to be just waving away your previous pledge. Acroterion (talk) 02:33, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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I apologize for my behavior towards Orangemike. I should not have insulted him the way I did. I got caught up in the heat of the moment and overreacted. I would just like the opportunity to be able to leave Misplaced Pages on my own terms, and not be forced out. I will retire on my own if I don't think I'm capable of behaving. I'd just like the chance to show I can play well with others. I think it is only fair to show I can do it. I'm aware of my pledge, and I stand by it, but as a 10 year Wikipedian (under 2 names), I don't want to go out this way if I have to go out. Give me a chance to redeem myself, and if it doesn't work, I'll see myself out the door.

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In fact, this user has a big problem. Look at this talk page, sections Maryse, Final comment and challenge, Shane/HHH/Lana and HHH wrestling a bunch in March. EVery time somebody talks with him, he is really agressive. He said one more slip and a few weeks later he had multiple slips. I don't think he's gonna work with others. BTW, he said hello to the Admin's yesterday --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:42, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

HHH Pedrigree Without going into to too much detail, I've been bringing real world frustrations over to Misplaced Pages, and I should not be doing that. I've been in a bad place lately, and it's affecting all aspects of my life. I apologize to you if I've done something to offend you (I know we've knocked heads recently). I should not be lashing out at people who in the big picture have nothing to do with with non-Wiki personal issues. Some people are just wired differently than others, and I'm sometimes quick to snap when I shouldn't be. Add that in with real world situations, and it's not a good mix. That's on me. I'm trying to get myself together, and would like the opportunity to make things right. Vjmlhds 12:36, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Vjmlhds Thanks for the temperate reply. I believe in redemption wherever possible, and the block right now is indefinite in the literal sense, not the infinite sense, pending discussion. I generally discount "the admins are all against me" outbursts:" they're not unusual and go with the territory. We've all had to ignore much worse. I'm not inclined to make a change in your editing status right now, but I have a couple of ideas that I'll present this evening when I have a chance to work them through. Acroterion (talk) 12:45, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I am actually against the lifetime ban. I know what VJ said in the past, but when his mind's right, he does some good work on here. A "cooling off" period may be a good idea, but not a permanent one. VJ -- why don't you relax between now, and say, April 2? Maybe a four week ban, and you're back in time to edit WrestleMania? Kjscotte34 (talk) 13:56, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Kjscotte34 All due respect, I'd rather voluntarily back away if things get heated around here. Remember, at the end of the day, Misplaced Pages editors are people, not robots - there will be disputes, because people (as a whole - not singling anybody out) get into disputes...it's what they do. As a 10 year Wikipedian, I want to be able to control my own fate, and not have to "sit in solitary" if you will. I'll be OK from a non-Wiki standpoint...all I ask from a Wiki standpoint is to be able to contribute, and not have people look at me like some kind of ogre. People like Mr. Spock and Sheldon Cooper (emotionless logic obsessed quasi-robots) are fictional. I think Wiki would be better served if some human factor was taken into account when things happen, because long after I'm gone, there will be others who have knockdown drag outs. You will never, ever NOT have disputes/arguments/fights on Misplaced Pages as long as people can edit it. If you open things up to all under the banner of collaboration, and then expect 100% perfect harmony and sameness, you will always be sadly disappointed, because people are always gonna be people. Not to say people can't try to better, but you will ALWAYS have some kind of issue. Want to completely avoid issues, then close it off to everyone other than a select few. Want to open it up to everybody, then you have to expect a bumpy road now and then. I can try to help make the road better, but to do that, I have to be here...I can't help make this place what it can by being on the outside looking in. All I'm saying is, that Wiki (and life in general) would work better overall if people can be be people and sometimes just allowing nature to take it's course instead of legislating everything to the nub. Not saying people shouldn't be slapped when needed (I was blocked 24 hours, that came and went, but then got changed to indefinite because of past sins that were already dealt with), but also that not everything needs to go right to "red alert" either. Vjmlhs 14:54, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

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