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Filigumba

Floq, I saw your posting on User talk:Filigumba. You might want to have a look at this list of accounts created by Filigumba. Quack quack. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:35, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh good grief. Thanks for info. I'll block now. I knew 5% was too high an estimate... --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Legal threats (answer for latest message)

Hello. Thanks for you edits. I don't want to sue anywone, but I have been stalked by the named user for over a year now. Please see what she is doing: I am a wikipedia-user of nine years meanwhile, there has never been anything. But since a while, this lady gained an obsession about my person. She nearly tries to change every legit edit I am doing and worse, she even started doing edits to my very own userpage with permission. I the meanwhile, someone from California (checked over the IP) tried to log in and take control over the e-mail account I am using for[REDACTED] here, and I presume, that is clearly her. This woman is a stalkerand there are rules in the state of Califoria. Please keep that in mind. I don't want to go into legal action, if she stops. But in the last weeks, it does not seem like that. So give her that warning, she has to stop or beeing taken into consequences. And, as I am an avid editor her, of course I don't want to stop working on here. But I am not the bad guy. She is. And there is a breaking point, and here actions will make reaching this point. You always need to here both sides of the story. But with your text, it sounds like only her part is interesting for you. There won't be any legal actions, as it is quite complicated to sue in the US from my part of the world, anyway. But if things need to be done, my contacts will help me doing this. But this is something that don't need to happen--Robberey1705 (talk)

@Robberey1705: I don't really care too much about your interactions with Drmargi; it appears both of you spend a majority of your time here fighting and reverting and calling other people vandals. You two are certainly not alone in that; there are hundreds like you. There is no good solution to mutual battleground behavior when everyone is quite sure the other person is 100% wrong, although I've had limited success blocking everyone on both sides for 1 month. I'm not going to try to solve that problem today, though. I'm solely talking about making a legal threat. You can't do that here. Saying (emphasis added) "There won't be any legal actions, as it is quite complicated to sue in the US from my part of the world, anyway. But if things need to be done, my contacts will help me doing this." is not a retraction. A clear, simple retraction, with no superfluous comments, is what is needed here. Otherwise you will be blocked indefinitely. This is not taking Drmargi's side in the dispute, it's an acknowledgement that Drmargi knows enough not to make legal threats. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:23, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

It's okay. I got it. I wont do any actions and take some time off. Thats the best thing I can do. Wait what she's doing next.--Robberey1705 (talk) 16:29, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I would also like a retraction of the accusation that I somehow attempted to compromise his e-mail account, assuming I'd have the first clue how to do so. That's an outrageous accusation. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 16:44, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I thought I was clear above. Aside from the legal threat I happened to see, I have no interest in what you both would like the other person to do. Please, both of you go make the world a slightly crappier place somewhere else. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:46, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Quick Question - August 2017

Hey,

Hope you don't mind the Thanks I sent for your action on that report you handled. Quick question, but this was posted under your response by the reported user:

"Can we all at least put on wrong version tags? Anmccaff (talk) 21:27, 9 August 2017 (UTC)"

Any thoughts on this? GUtt01 (talk) 21:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure he was joking. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:40, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Recently Deleted SPI attack page

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I was wondering if it might make more sense to leave some access to that, and stuff like it. It's a little like really rude t-shirts...at first they seem like an offense to society, but then you realize that they are a way for us to identify persons with personality disorders easily; in fact, the differently mannered do most of the work for us, marking themselves and sparing the rest of us a lot of work with specialized machinery. Anmccaff (talk) 19:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Clarification

A couple points. First, if I'd wanted to focus this above on anyone in particular, I would have pinged them. Next, if I thought you, or any other admin, was deleting stuff over the writer's objections because of personal dislike, I'd be at ANI, not commenting on your page. Third, and most importantly, stuff like that is better in the open than festering, and gives some valuable clues to personalities (and the issues that accompany them). Sweeping it under the rug, not so much. Anmccaff (talk) 21:19, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Except it violates policy. The fact you think I'm sweeping something under the rug is noted. We're done now, right? --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:23, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Lament

Is it my imagination, or has WP been relentlessly taken over by people you would never want to go have a beer with? When I first started, almost everyone I ran into seemed interesting; quirky perhaps, but generally decent humans. Now everywhere you turn there are uniformly horrible people, all acting like eggshells armed with hammers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:28, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

We had far more outright lunatics in the old days; we have far more prissy self-appointed cops nowadays. Which is the better state of affairs depends on your own preferences. ‑ Iridescent 21:46, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Maybe so. I wasn't around in the really old days. Perhaps I arrived during a Golden Age, after the Outright Lunatics left, but before the Relentless Warriors (and your Prissy Self-Appointed Cops) arrived? Or maybe I'm one of the Prissy Self-Appointed Cops and just don't know it... --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:05, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

#MakeWikipediaGreatAgain ? 28bytes (talk) 22:35, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Too soon. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:36, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

We had the Relentless Edit Warriors back then as well, but it was also laced with a strong dose of genuine psychopaths. The self-righteous edit-warriors of today are annoying and sometimes deeply annoying, but there's nowhere near as much outright stalking and harassment now as there was then (despite the exponential increase in the number of people who like to throw the terms around), and the seemingly-endless flood of child molesters and white supremacists finally appears to have abated as well. It's not something that will ever be a slogan on a fundraising banner, but one of the genuinely great achievements of the deservedly maligned Sue Gardner was to turn Misplaced Pages boring enough to feel safe without entirely killing off the spark that keeps it alive. (I freely admit that I didn't expect her to pull it off; by now, I'd have expected Misplaced Pages either to have degenerated into a Reddit-style pit of assholes locked in permanent arguments, or to be under the total control of the Civility Police and be a Citizendium-style ghost town of outdated pages which nobody dares to update for fear of upsetting their owners.) ‑ Iridescent 21:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

• I don't know that we have any more miserable people now than we did in the old days. But we do have far fewer interesting, sane people. I think it's the changing ratio that you're perceiving. If I look back to discussions I had on article talkpages or my user talkpage 5 or 10 years ago, I'm overwhelmed by how many interesting, smart, dedicated people were active back then and have since left the project. But the handful of miserable human beings I encountered in those days are, by and large, still editing. It's a vicious cycle, too; as we lost that critical mass of good people, the remaining ones got much less invested and more likely to leave as well. I mean, a lot of people I encounter here, particularly on contentious topics, are the sorts that I would literally go out of my way to avoid having to interact with in real life. So then why would I want to spend my free/volunteer time interacting with them online? I think a lot of people have gone through similar implicit mental calculations over the years, which is why we're still beset with bellicose pedants and ideological zealots but have lost the people who made this place fun. MastCell  23:17, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Request

Hi Floq, If you're around, can you protect User talk:Cassianto for a spell? He's been the target of nonsense postings by a sock. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 18:03, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

 Done. I screwed up the protection rationale a little (throw-away accounts, not IP's) but couldn't bring myself to do a null edit to fix the rationale. Hopefully no one notices. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

That's great - thanks very much. I've no idea who is behind it, although there a couple of people who sprng to mind! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 19:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

No, they'll all be in Montreal at the moment  ;) — fortunavelut luna 19:33, 16 August 2017 (UTC)