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Juro

As a clerk to the Arbitration Committee I've removed your application for arbitration on the subject of Juro. Please check that you have followed all reasonable steps of Dispute resolution and that you follow the instructions on Requests for arbitration in creating an application. --Tony Sidaway 02:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I've now created the arbitration case here and informed User:Juro. --Tony Sidaway 16:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Magyar őshaza

Szia Vince. I noticed that you moved Hungarian Urheimat to Magyar őshaza. I don't think that was the best thing to do, because one should remember that this is English Misplaced Pages, and the average English speaker isn't going to understand Hungarian. Would you mind if I move the page back? Thanks. —Khoikhoi 18:44, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

No, "urheimat" is an English word that comes from German, and it describes a sepcific type of homeland, a linguistic one. The title "Hungarian homeland" would be too vague and receives a low amount of Google hits. Next time you want to rename a page, please go to WP:RM. Thanks.

BTW, I'm not so sure if Magyar őshaza (#1 on the map) and Magna Hungaria (#2 on the map) are the same thing.... —Khoikhoi 20:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Possible vandalism and personal attack

I would like to kindly ask you to refrain from blanking whole paragraphs, erasing the statistical data you do not like, and changing numbers, as you did here. Please, use the talk page before you make such a substantive change. Other people may consider your behavior vandalism.

Although this is an unrelated issue, I must say that I am quite surprised by your personal attack. First, I cannot be a Slovak nationalist because I am of mixed origin. Second, I am usually trying to reach consensus or at least compromise in sensitive issues. Btw, guess who added sections about ethnic minorities and multi-ethnic character to the articles about Slovakia, such as Banská Bystrica and Bratislava. Yes, it was me, a "Slovak nationalist". Third, most of the articles I have edited are completely unrelated to Hungary and Hungarians. I am creating and expanding articles about towns, castles, and mountains in Slovakia, cleaning up categories in international relations, reverting vandalism in hundreds of articles. Just check my edit count. I am aware that your personal attack appeared after I disagreed with your Request of Arbitration against Juro (which was removed by the clerk anyway), but I really did not expect such a move from your part. I do not remember any personal dispute with you and I do not desire to initiate any. I have no interest in your petty conflicts with other Wikipedians. Have a good day. Tankred 16:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

???

What you want to tell me? That "your" encyclopaedia humana should be only source that we should use and that no other source should be used at all, right? PANONIAN (talk) 21:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

What my statements you refering to? And one more thing: please do not change my maps. If you think that any of my maps is wrong, just tell me that, and I will correct it, ok? PANONIAN (talk) 21:32, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

And did you saw this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Hungarian_migration03.gif Compare the two, and you will see that even your "holy bible" (encyclopaedia humana) map have a arrow pointing that Hungarians moved to Bashkiria from the east side of Urals. What is problem then? Yugra is name used for that territory in medieval Russian chronicles and is used today too and refering to land of Ugric peoples. PANONIAN (talk) 21:40, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I will correct "Slovakia1850 02.png" map, be patient a little, and as I said, I will correct the maps, you just tell me if something is wrong on them, ok? PANONIAN (talk) 21:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, check this map again: http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Hungarian_migration03.gif Name for the land east of Ural mountain on that map is "Magyar Oshaza", which do not mean Ugric homeland, but Hungarian homeland. However, I changed the map about Hungarian migration, and it now say: "Yugra (Ugric homeland)" Also, name Bashkiria is an anachronism in the time when we speak about Magna Hungaria (Bashkiria did not existed back then), so this name should not be used on map. And regarding maps, I really do not like when somebody else change them, so I believe it is a matter of your own decency to discuss changes on maps with me first, because I will revert any change on these maps which I consider wrong. In fact, if you want to contribute here with maps, rather draw your own instead to destroy work of others. PANONIAN (talk) 21:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I deleted "your" map. You changed few letters on map, and you claim that it is "your"? Try to draw entire map (to draw borders, to paint it, to draw arrows, etc), and then claim that it is your. Because of the people like you, I will consider to change copyright tags on my maps in the future from "public domain" to someting else that is not free for changing. PANONIAN (talk) 22:15, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

And by the way, I changed the map in the way you wanted, so what is problem really? PANONIAN (talk) 22:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Another personal attack

Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. I used this official template because my last reminder did not work. You attacked me in your edit summary: "response because cronologically happened after it ! They were bantered up by the the hungarian beatings in Slovakia. And the flag-burning, and other staff yours did (emphasis added)." I have never been involved in any act of flag-burning and I have never supported such activities. Please, refrain from making personal accusatory comments. Tankred 23:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Your personal attacks from September 12

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Misplaced Pages has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by administrators or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you.

This is your last warning before I ask administrators for help. You accused me of POV pushing that did not occur perhaps in order to undermine my credibility. But all edits are archived, VinceB. Here are my only edits of the concerned section: , , . I did not delete anything. I moved the whole section to a new paragraph and I added information about the official police investigation that you immediately erased. I even encouraged Zello to add information about the girl's version (which contradicts the official version that I added).

You also accused me of calling you 'a sockpuppet, a vandal, a nationalist, whatever and blured with those, who scandaled "death to the slovakians"'. I have never called you sockpuppet. I only said that there is some evidence indicating that User:Árpád might have used sockpuppets. Assuming that you are not User:Árpád, I do not understand your accusation. I warned you that your behavior (you initially blanked whole paragraphs without suggesting such a significant change on a talk page) may be considered vandalism by other users. I do not remember any occasion when I called you a nationalist. And I have never implied that you belong to the group, which yelled "Death to Slovaks" in a Hungarian soccer stadium. If you have any evidence of my alleged personal attacks against you, please provide it. Otherwise, your accusation is a personal insult. Tankred 16:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

My RfA