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| Aside from the fact that this article isn't very NPOV, there needs to be something in it that tells what TM <b>is</b>. | Aside from the fact that this article isn't very NPOV, there needs to be something in it that tells what TM <b>is</b>. | ||
| :I'm also still concerned that, since it reads so much like a promotional brochure, it may be under copyright. ] | :I'm also still concerned that, since it reads so much like a promotional brochure, it may be under copyright. ] | ||
| ::When I first looked into it, there were a bunch of TM books out there but <b>none</b> of them explained a damn thing about what to actually do--they were just advertisements that told you to go in to your local temple, which is what made me a bit suspicious. This page already has twice as much information on the subject. Lends a little credence to the idea that it is a cult based on hypnosis--you have to get people physically in there to perform such an act on them. I think this needs a little more information on the con side of things. -- ] 17:28, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC) | |||
| Well, it passed the ] test, but it still needs to be largely rewritten. --] | Well, it passed the ] test, but it still needs to be largely rewritten. --] | ||
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Aside from the fact that this article isn't very NPOV, there needs to be something in it that tells what TM is.
- I'm also still concerned that, since it reads so much like a promotional brochure, it may be under copyright. Vicki Rosenzweig
- When I first looked into it, there were a bunch of TM books out there but none of them explained a damn thing about what to actually do--they were just advertisements that told you to go in to your local temple, which is what made me a bit suspicious. This page already has twice as much information on the subject. Lends a little credence to the idea that it is a cult based on hypnosis--you have to get people physically in there to perform such an act on them. I think this needs a little more information on the con side of things. -- Jkeiser 17:28, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
Well, it passed the Google test, but it still needs to be largely rewritten. --Stephen Gilbert
Why is there registered trademark signs? - I haven't seen them any other place in Misplaced Pages! - Since for instance Windows doesn't bear them in articles wouldn't it be fair enough to remove them? - And it still doesn't seem very explanatory, everywhere it just says "research tells...", not referring to any articles or anything. - Would it be okay, if I made a stub on this on top of the old text? - So that we eventually could get rid of this brochure thing? -- Firebirth
This article is a joke. The consensus view of transcendental meditation is that it is simple plain old meditation as practiced by Buddhists and etc., and there is absolutely no basis for anyone claiming that they invented it or spread it other than the Buddha.
The modern interpretations of its significance are mostly in its health claims, e.g. reduced blood pressure, better concentration, etc., in which it can be seen by its supporters to be simply the most effective form of waking relaxation.
And the (TM) on TM is intolerable, it is certainly a phrase in common use.
As a long term practioner of many years meditation experience (TM, sitting, dance, whirling, mantra, chanting, witnessing etc.), and a one-time tutor within the TM movement, I can tell you that the TM technique is not at-all ike a Buddhist (or any other) meditation to experience.
It is indeed much more akin to a 'trance' or hypnotic state characterised by a kind of blanking of experience. It is far from clear that long periods of 'hypnotic trance' are universally beneficial, either physiologically or spiritually, and it appears that a minority of practictioners suffer long term debilitating effects such physical tics, loss of concentration, and emotional volatility. A matter of some embarrasment, not to say shame, to those of us who once promoted it so enthusiastically.
By the way the article is rather coy about the choice of mantras. Although a sworn secret this has been revealed to be simply dependent on the age of the person at the time they were initiated into the technique.
The mantras are all the names of Hindu gods, and the initiation ceremony (puja) is also decidedly Hindu in character. This raises ethical concerns as the TM teachers are required to state that the teaching has no religious content and is quite compatible with the existing faith of the practioner. Thus the apparently hysterical claims of Christian groups that the TM movement was surreptitiously initiating people into Hinduism actually had some merit in fact.
From the article:
- "Grounded on statistical data of recovery, the National Health Service of England, allows doctors, if their patients suffer from one of three srecific diseases, to prescribe their patient to learn TM. The health service then pays for it."
Please provide evidence for this.
The EEGs don't make it look like a 'trance'. Are TMers statistically more likely than non-TMers to suffer from tics, etc?
Transcendental Meditation requires no concentration or focus.
Someone wrote that on the Meditation page, but that wasn't true when i learned TM. So i put it here rather than on the page. --JohnAbbe
Removed as non-NPOV:
See the foolishness of all this.If someone does the initiation again after let's say 5 years,at a diffren't TM centre without mentioning the former initiation,he will get another mantra.Now he has 2 mantras.Which one does he use.OH Please!!!.The "Maharishi" only thinks about his wallet. -- Pedant17 00:16, 28 Dec 2003 (UTC)