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Oprah with Meghan and Harry is a 2021 American television interview by Oprah Winfrey with Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and her husband, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex. It was first broadcast by CBS in the United States on March 7, 2021 and subsequently by ITV in the United Kingdom, as well as in 67 other countries.

Background

Although Winfrey was a guest at the wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle in 2018, the couple first discussed their experiences with the media and public life in the 2019 ITV documentary Harry and Meghan: An African Journey with Tom Bradby. Then, in March 2020, Harry and Meghan stepped down as working members of the British royal family to move to North America and become financially independent, subject to a 12-month review period should they change their minds. In June 2020, a home was purchased in Montecito, California, within the same "super-wealthy" enclave as Winfrey and other Hollywood celebrities.

On February 19, 2021, Buckingham Palace confirmed that Harry and Meghan would not be returning as working members of the royal family, and that the Duke would step down as honorary Captain General of the Royal Marines and relinquish all other honorary military appointments held. Both Harry and Meghan also relinquished their royal patronages, including the presidency and vice-presidency, respectively, of The Queen's Commonwealth Trust. On February 26, The Late Late Show with James Corden released a 17-minute film segment, titled An Afternoon with Prince Harry & James Corden, with Meghan making a cameo appearance by video call.

In March 2021, The Times reported that a complaint of workplace harassment had been made in 2018 against Meghan by her former senior royal advisor, after separate incidents with three other employees. Representatives of Meghan and Harry denounced the reports as "misinformation".

Production and release

Winfrey initially denied reports of a "tell-all interview" in January 2020. ITV News first reported that Meghan and Harry were finalizing an interview deal in February 2021, and it was subsequently confirmed by CBS. The Wall Street Journal reported that CBS paid "a license fee of between $7 million and $9 million" for the broadcasting rights. The network also sought $325,000 for 30 seconds of commercial advertising time during the broadcast. Meghan and Harry were not paid for the interview.

Produced by Winfrey's Harpo Productions, the taping took place outdoors in Santa Barbara County, California, at the home of an unnamed friend of Winfrey's. The special premiered on March 7, 2021 on CBS, and aired the following day on ITV in the United Kingdom. ViacomCBS Global Distribution handled distribution internationally. Winfrey appeared on CBS This Morning on March 8 to present footage not included in the special.

Content

Various topics were discussed in the interview. Meghan spoke about "stepping into life as a royal, marriage, motherhood" and "how she is handling life under intense public pressure". She also said that the couple had a private exchange of vows in 2018, three days prior to their public wedding ceremony. Harry joined her later, and the pair talked about their move to the United States from the United Kingdom in 2020 and their plans for the future, as well as revealing the sex of their second child, a daughter due to be born in "the summer" of 2021.

Meghan drew a distinction between the royal family, and those that run the institution of the monarchy: "It's hard for people to distinguish the two, because it's a family business right, there's the family, and then there's the people that are running the institution, those are two separate things ... the Queen, for example, has always been wonderful to me." Although Meghan said that she knew some things about the royal family, discussion of them was not regular when she was growing up. She commented on "naively" entering the royal family, as she did not do her own research because she felt that Harry was telling her all she needed to know. Meghan said that she was not provided with proper training on royal protocols, and recounted practicing how to curtsy with help from Sarah, Duchess of York, outside the Royal Lodge prior to first meeting the Queen. Meghan said that a reported incident of her making her sister-in-law Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, cry was actually misreported, and that, in fact Catherine had made her cry about flower girl dresses. She stated that Catherine had apologized about it subsequently, sending her a note and flowers. She also criticized the institution for knowing the truth about these events, but not showing any efforts to correct the story.

Otherwise, Meghan said that during her time as a senior royal, she had been silenced, presumably by palace officials. She believed that, by not commenting on her life, she would receive protection, but said such reciprocity did not occur. When she was pregnant with Archie, she said Harry told her the Palace would not give the baby the title of prince, nor would he receive personal security. She worried about a lack of security for her son, particularly given the manner in which tabloids had treated her. Harry said that he had discussions with an unnamed member of the royal family, during the pregnancy, about "how dark" Archie's skin would be. However, when later pressed for greater details on the conversation, Harry said he is "never going to share more" about that conversation. Winfrey later stated that she had not been told who was involved, just that it was not the Queen or her husband.

Meghan discussed contemplating suicide saying "I did not want to be alive anymore". She said she had gone to several senior palace officials to seek help or be checked into a hospital, but was told that would not be good as a public image. Meghan discussed feeling trapped, telling Winfrey that her driver's license, passport, and credit cards had been taken from her prior to her wedding, and been made unavailable to her. Harry discussed the way Meghan was treated: "I saw history repeating itself," drawing comparisons to his late mother, and worried that a tragic ending may repeat itself with Meghan. Harry claimed that he only stepped back as a royal after it became clear that the help he was asking for was not forthcoming. He believed that after he and Meghan toured Australia in October 2018, members of the royal family were jealous of the "effortless" manner in which Meghan had been able to interact with people in the Commonwealth.

Harry said that there was a period (of unspecified duration) in which his father would not return his phone calls, and he felt "really let down". Harry also expressed affection for his older brother but stated, "we're on different paths".

Harry and Meghan denied having "blindsided" the Queen with their decision to step back as senior royals, and claimed that they had held discussions with the royal family beforehand. In response to Winfrey's question about whether he would have left the monarchy if not for Meghan, Harry said that he would not have. Meghan had opened his eyes as to how trapped he was inside the "institution" he had been born into. Harry said that he and Meghan had not initially planned to make commercial deals like those they had forged with Netflix and Spotify, but that they needed to make arrangements for their safety after the royal family refused them further security protection, then cut off financial support in early 2020. The couple later revealed that after royal security ceased, Tyler Perry provided them with a secure house (in Beverly Hills) until they were able to make an alternative plan. Harry added that he was able to provide for the family through the money he inherited from his mother. Harry and Meghan both said they did not initially intend to completely leave their roles in the royal family, but only wanted to step back into smaller roles. At the conclusion of the interview, Harry declared that his relationship with Meghan had "saved" him, while she added that his decisions had saved their entire family, referring to the two of them and Archie.

Extra footage

Four clips that were unaired during the main program were shown the following day on CBS This Morning. When asked about whether racism played a role in their decision to leave the UK, Harry responded that "it was a large part of it". He also added that he did not believe that the UK is bigoted. Harry went on to say that after informing the Palace about their decision to leave, the Queen cancelled a preplanned meeting with the couple in Sandringham due to a busy schedule. Harry's request for another meeting was denied over the phone directly by the Queen, though he attributed the decision to the influence of her advisors. The couple also talked about Meghan's tabloid coverage, and (according to them) an alleged toxic environment within the royal institution. Harry attributed this perceived toxicity to the "control and the fear by the UK tabloids", and opined that his ancestral family had adapted to such an environment.

Meghan added that what she experienced when joining the royal family was different from that of her sister-in-law, Catherine, mainly because social media did not exist in its current form. She also spoke of the bad press coverage that the whole royal family had to deal with, but hers also had an element of racism. Additionally, Meghan talked about her conversation with her own father in the days leading up to her wedding, mentioning that despite the fact that his relationship with the press could have been damaging to her reputation, he did not reveal his actions to her. She expressed sympathy for him as he was "hunted" by the press, but praised her mother for being in the same situation but remaining "in silent dignity". She further stated that she barely knew her half-sister, and questioned her credibility for writing a tell-all book. She added that her half-sister had changed her surname back to Markle only after realizing that she was dating Harry. In another clip released by O, The Oprah Magazine, Meghan talked about "a basic right to privacy". She acknowledged that as public figures they never asked for complete privacy, but it should be up to them to share the parts that they want with the public.

Veracity and context of claims

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Meghan stated that, when she was pregnant, officials told her that they did not want her child to be a prince, and that her child would not be titled "the same way that other grandchildren would be". Archie did not receive use of a courtesy title at birth. At the time of their son Archie's birth, it was originally reported that it had been Meghan and Harry's decision not to have him use a courtesy title. Rules established by King George V in 1917 limited the "prince" or "princess" titles for children of the monarch, grandchildren of the monarch in the male line, and the eldest son of the Prince of Wales. If Harry's father, Charles, ascends to the throne (he is the heir apparent), Archie would conventionally be entitled to the title of prince, as he would then be the grandson of the monarch. Harry's brother William's eldest son, Prince George of Cambridge, was granted the title of "prince" because he is directly in line for the throne, but in 2012, the Queen issued her own decree that all children of William's would get titles of prince and princess. She did not make any similar decree to grant Archie such a title.

Reception

In the media

Prior to the broadcast of the interview, American television network NBC wrote of "daily episodes of royal drama in the shape of leaks, counterstatements and well-timed preview clips", which "may have been designed to build tension ahead of the interview". However, a CNN analysis following the broadcast noted that, despite the preview clips generating attention in the week ahead of the broadcast, "'s team ensured that nothing leaked" in regards to the biggest claims in the interview, resulting in "maximum shock value".

On the day of the U.S. broadcast, comment was made in British newspaper The Observer that "... in the United States, anglophiles and amateur royal watchers are simply sitting back and lapping up the show."

British tabloids, whose practices were heavily criticized in the interview, were negative in their coverage of the interview. The United States media reacted generally favorably towards the interview.

Piers Morgan remarks

On the March 8, 2021 edition of ITV's morning show Good Morning Britain, anchor Piers Morgan—who was briefly a friend of Markle before she became the Duchess of Sussex, but claims she cut him off early in her relationship with Prince Harry—disputed the veracity of Markle's contemplation of suicide, stating "I don’t believe a word she says. I wouldn't believe her if she read me a weather report."

Morgan's remarks were met with immediate backlash; on the March 9 edition of Good Morning Britain, Morgan distanced himself from the comment, stating that "if someone is feeling that way they should get the treatment and the help that they need every time. Every time. And if they belong to an institution like the royal family they should seek that help and be given it. It's not for me to question if she felt suicidal I am not in her mind and that is for her to say." Alluding to Morgan's past relationship with Markle, co-anchor Alex Beresford commented that "she's entitled to cut you off if she wants to. Has she said anything about you since she cut you off? I don’t think she has but yet you continue to trash her." In response to the comment, Morgan briefly exited the studio; Beresford apologized to viewers, arguing that Morgan "spouts off on a regular basis" and "has the ability to talk from a position where he doesn't fully understand".

Later that day, British telecom and broadcast regulator Ofcom announced that it would investigate the March 8 Good Morning Britain for violations of the Broadcasting Code, after having received over 41,000 complaints from viewers. Shortly afterward, Morgan announced that he would leave Good Morning Britain effective immediately.

Political reaction

According to BBC News, the interview led to "crisis meetings involving senior royals". UK prime minister Boris Johnson declined to comment when asked if he believed the royal family was racist, saying "when it comes to matters to do with the Royal Family, the right thing for prime ministers to say is nothing". UK opposition leader Keir Starmer said that Meghan's allegations about racism and a lack of mental health support should be taken "very, very seriously". Shadow education secretary Kate Green said the allegations were "really distressing" and "shocking". A spokesperson for US president Joe Biden said he would praise anyone for having the courage to speak out about mental health.

Two days later, Buckingham Palace released a statement in response, saying: “The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members.”

Public opinion

A poll conducted by YouGov on March 8, after the American and Canadian broadcasts but ahead of the broadcast in the United Kingdom, found that a majority of adults in Great Britain had little sympathy for the royal couple. Whereas 56% responded that they had "none at all" or "not very much" sympathy, 17% had "a fair amount" of sympathy, 12% had "a lot" of sympathy and 15% stated that they did not know. Another poll by YouGov in the same timeframe found that 21% of British adults thought that the interview was “appropriate” and 47% thought it was "inappropriate"; by contrast, 44% of American adults described it as "appropriate" and 20% described it as "inappropriate."

Viewership

The table below lists broadcasters and estimated viewership in key regions.

See also

• Charles: The Private Man, the Public Role, a 1994 documentary and interview with Charles, Prince of Wales
• "An Interview with HRH The Princess of Wales", a 1995 interview with Diana, Princess of Wales

Notes

1. Despite being entitled to use his father's senior subsidiary title Earl of Dumbarton as a courtesy, it was reported at the time of Archie's birth that the Duke and Duchess decided instead that he would be styled as Master Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor, in accordance with their wish that he grow up as a private citizen. A similar decision was made by Harry's uncle, the Earl of Wessex, whose children also do not hold princely titles. Under letters patent issued by Elizabeth II in 2012, only "the children of the eldest son of The Prince of Wales should have and enjoy the style, title and attribute of Royal Highness with the titular dignity of Prince or Princess." However, under letters patent issued by George V in 1917, any children of Harry and Meghan would be entitled to princely status if their grandfather Charles were to become sovereign.
2. The monarchy had previously advised that Harry's father, Prince Charles, would continue to provide financial support.

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External links

• Full official video from CBS
• Oprah with Meghan and Harry at IMDb

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