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I ] some images with edit summary "Image changes: (1) Move File:Map of Auschwitz and environs, 1944.jpg from Background to infobox; (2) replace File:Concentration camps in occupied Europe (2007 borders).png with File:WW2-Holocaust-Europe.png -- wrapped in {{tl|Image frame}} {{tl|Superimpose}} to add a circle around Auschwitz. Clunky but I think WW2 borders is worth it.", and {{user link|SlimVirgin}} effectively ] with edit summary "restore images". I'm sure there was a good reason for the revert, but might I request that it be made public? ]<sup>(])</sup> 16:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC) | I ] some images with edit summary "Image changes: (1) Move File:Map of Auschwitz and environs, 1944.jpg from Background to infobox; (2) replace File:Concentration camps in occupied Europe (2007 borders).png with File:WW2-Holocaust-Europe.png -- wrapped in {{tl|Image frame}} {{tl|Superimpose}} to add a circle around Auschwitz. Clunky but I think WW2 borders is worth it.", and {{user link|SlimVirgin}} effectively ] with edit summary "restore images". I'm sure there was a good reason for the revert, but might I request that it be made public? ]<sup>(])</sup> 16:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC) | ||
:There were several reasons for the revert. (1) Adding a third image to the infobox wasn't an improvement, especially when it's a map that readers would have to click on to see properly. (2) The 2007 borders for the concentration-camp map were chosen to make it easier for readers to make sense of. (3) The red circle you added isn't there when the map you added is clicked on and most needed; the current map doesn't have that problem. (4) The changes included increasing the size of one map, disturbing the visual integrity of the page, which consists of a series of images of roughly the same size, several within the multiple-image template. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 02:26, 14 March 2021 (UTC) | :There were several reasons for the revert. (1) Adding a third image to the infobox wasn't an improvement, especially when it's a map that readers would have to click on to see properly. (2) The 2007 borders for the concentration-camp map were chosen to make it easier for readers to make sense of; the 1942 map is linked in the caption for comparison. (3) The red circle you added isn't there when the map you added is clicked on and most needed; the current map doesn't have that problem. (4) The changes included increasing the size of one map, disturbing the visual integrity of the page, which consists of a series of images of roughly the same size, several within the multiple-image template. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 02:26, 14 March 2021 (UTC) |
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The historian Charles Sydnor has added a list of recommended sources for Auschwitz to his article about the camp in the USHMM Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos (volume 1, part A; for the sources, pp. 207–208). Download. Posting it here in case it's helpful. SarahSV
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Polish name
Batreeq, I'm going to remove that name again, and I ask that you respect WP:BRD and seek consensus before restoring it. I'm not sure it should even be in the infobox, because I don't think that was the Polish name for it. The Polish name would have contained Oświęcim, not Auschwitz, so you need to find a contemporaneous source.
But even with a source, there is no need for it in the first sentence. We have the English name because this is the English Misplaced Pages and the German name because that was its official name. That's enough. See MOS:LEADCLUTTER. SarahSV 05:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Correct, the Polish name is Oświęcim, not Auschwitz. - GizzyCatBella🍁 06:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Names in infobox
GizzyCatBella, I removed the recent addition because he really isn't well-known for anything beyond that one act, and there was talk some time ago of trying to reduce the size of that list anyway. SarahSV 18:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Okay - GizzyCatBella🍁 19:19, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- The aim was to represent a mix of nationalities. It's currently three Slovak (Adolf Burger, Rudolf Vrba, Alfred Wetzler (Wetzler isn't well-known, but he and Vrba acted together); two Austrian (Viktor Frankl, Fritz Löhner-Beda); two German Edith Stein, Else Ury); two Polish (Maximilian Kolbe, Witold Pilecki); one Hungarian (Imre Kertész); one Ukrainian (Irène Némirovsky); one French (Simone Veil); one Romanian (Elie Wiesel); one Dutch (Anne Frank); one Italian (Primo Levi).
- I've considered removing Wetzler, so we don't have three Slovak. He was upset at being so overshadowed by Vrba, which is why I've left it, but that's probably not a good reason given the limited space of an infobox. SarahSV 19:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Got it, makes sense. - GizzyCatBella🍁 23:00, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- I've considered removing Wetzler, so we don't have three Slovak. He was upset at being so overshadowed by Vrba, which is why I've left it, but that's probably not a good reason given the limited space of an infobox. SarahSV 19:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
"Restore images"
I changed some images with edit summary "Image changes: (1) Move File:Map of Auschwitz and environs, 1944.jpg from Background to infobox; (2) replace File:Concentration camps in occupied Europe (2007 borders).png with File:WW2-Holocaust-Europe.png -- wrapped in {{Image frame}} {{Superimpose}} to add a circle around Auschwitz. Clunky but I think WW2 borders is worth it.", and SlimVirgin effectively reverted with edit summary "restore images". I'm sure there was a good reason for the revert, but might I request that it be made public? jnestorius 16:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- There were several reasons for the revert. (1) Adding a third image to the infobox wasn't an improvement, especially when it's a map that readers would have to click on to see properly. (2) The 2007 borders for the concentration-camp map were chosen to make it easier for readers to make sense of; the 1942 map is linked in the caption for comparison. (3) The red circle you added isn't there when the map you added is clicked on and most needed; the current map doesn't have that problem. (4) The changes included increasing the size of one map, disturbing the visual integrity of the page, which consists of a series of images of roughly the same size, several within the multiple-image template. SarahSV 02:26, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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