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wp:calc

Thanks first for your compromise suggestion regarding the date of the sixth flight of the Mars helicopter. Would you mind if I add "time zone conversion" to Wp:calc?

Second question: Wp:Veri request the the entries need to be verifiable. So if a routine calulation is done, should it be explained to the reader, in the article? Or is the explanation in the edit comment sufficient? --Schrauber5 (talk) 13:35, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Schrauber5, for changes to WP:CALC, you should probably bring a conversation first to that policy's talk page. I think on-earth time zone conversions are unambiguously already included, but others might agree with you that it's worth mentioning. I would appreciate a ping if you do start that discussion. No, I don't believe routine calculations need to be explained to readers. My view is that non-explanation is a good test of whether the calculation is routine or not. If you feel any of this is relevant to improvements to the helicopter page, we may want to move the discussion to that article's talk page. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 14:51, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I made an entry at the talk page. Regarding the helicopter page: Space.com published a wrong date for the 7th flight but corrected it after I informed them. So we do not have 2 false dates in it. https://www.space.com/mars-helicopter-ingenuity-aces-seventh-flight. Schrauber5 (talk) 15:56, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry that I misquoted/misunderstood you. I explained that at the talk page Schrauber5 (talk) 14:36, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I think that was a reasonable misunderstanding. Thanks for the apology. I'm sorry I wasn't clearer at first. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 15:38, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Back to Mars time: would you consider it to be helpful to create a Mars2020 to UTC conversion template? The helicopter will only fly another two month but the rover may continue for years. On the other hand it's actions may not be reported with time information. With another reference point the template could be also apapted for other Mars missions. Schrauber5 (talk) 17:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I’m not sure! I would advocate for letting the CALC conversation come to consensus. If it ends up supporting Mars time conversions, a template might be helpful, albeit niche. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 21:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

My idea was that a template could support the simplicity of the operation. I was expecting that the discussion will have more participants and that concensus will realize as a majority opionion. But with only 4 participants I'm afraid that will not happen. Schrauber5 (talk) 05:29, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Give it some time! You could also potentially solicit some input from related WikiProjects. I also don't want to discourage you from working on a template. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 05:36, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

template is done, see User:Schrauber5/testMarstime2 Schrauber5 (talk) 19:32, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Cool! I'll respond at the template's talk page. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 04:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Just read here about the WP:3RR. That was violated by DonFB first and then by me at the helicopter page. Since I was switching to talk page and third opinion and not editing any more at the question of date of the sixth flight I was not willing to back down again regarding the time of the seventh flight. Participating in the edit war was wrong. I should have used WP:3RR after the 3rd revert of DonFB. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schrauber5 (talk • contribs) 04:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

I didn't even notice! That's an important one to keep an eye on. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 04:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry about that

Yeah that was my fault back there, it was a little original research to write that sentence in that way.CycoMa (talk) 06:10, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Apology accepted! I think we landed on a better version than either of us were proposing alone. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 06:13, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

As some one researches a lot on that kind of topic it’s very obvious which group is more in favor of the sexual spectrum argument.

But as a Wikipedian it’s not my job to analyze what sources say or combine them.CycoMa (talk) 11:53, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021

Please do not remove information from articles, as you did to Ilhan Omar. Misplaced Pages is not censored, and content is not removed on the sole grounds of perceived offensiveness. Please discuss this issue on the article's talk page to reach consensus rather than continuing to remove the disputed material. If the content in question involves images, you also have the option to configure Misplaced Pages to hide the images that you may find offensive. I’d love to hear how the Minneapolis Star-Tribune and the Times of Israel aren’t reliable sources. Toa Nidhiki05 11:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Toa Nidhiki05, it looks like conversation about including that content is ongoing at the article talk page. I would love to discuss here our conduct. It seems you are convinced that my stated reasoning for removing information, "...Content isn't DUE or reliable sourced" was misleading and that I was instead just removing content that I find offensive. If that isn't a true statement of your view, then you may want to strike the template. If true, I would ask you to assume good faith. In that edit I removed political content sourced to Fox News, which I see you have now also removed, thus my RS concern. Regarding DUE, did you find it so impossible that I have good-faith DUE concerns that you have to assume I was just censoring? Firefangledfeathers (talk) 14:05, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Toa Nidhiki05: second and last ping, in case you want to talk through our conduct dispute. I'll take silence to mean you would rather not discuss it. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 03:50, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

I do not agree with your revert on the Stresa - Mottarone cable car accident: Firstly I mentioned suggestion and secondly, more important: the contributors in this technical part of the forum are often professionals and I rank their value higher than of many newspapers or on-line media. Please reconsider.--Martin Borsje (talk) 17:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

I have responded at this talk page section. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 17:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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Clarification request is live!

Greetings to you! As you requested, I am keeping you in the loop that the clarification request we discussed in now live. You can find it here! Looking forward to discussing it with you. Benevolent human (talk) 16:06, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Firefangledfeathers (talk) 16:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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Gender-related

Sorry, I followed your link and didn't found anything I could follow as guidelines. Could you please send me a direct link? --Cautious (talk) 19:33, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Guidelines about discretionary sanctions are available at: Misplaced Pages:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions#Guidance_for_editors Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:37, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Can you help me? I have a problem with POV editions in LGBT_rights_in_Poland. He just removed my source and he is not honest in discussion. How to start a resolution of this dispute? --Cautious (talk) 20:50, 22 June 2021 (UTC)