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| Is there a relevant guideline considering when and where to place the Authority control template? I know it was added to biography articles following RfC support of ], but the current information page doesn't say whether it is actually recommended to use the template on non-biographies, only that authority control data covers them. --] (]) 03:24, 25 April 2021 (UTC) | Is there a relevant guideline considering when and where to place the Authority control template? I know it was added to biography articles following RfC support of ], but the current information page doesn't say whether it is actually recommended to use the template on non-biographies, only that authority control data covers them. --] (]) 03:24, 25 April 2021 (UTC) | ||
| I'm quite curious about this myself, AC feels like a lot of additional metadata to include on each page, and of dubious utility to most readers. Almost feels like something that should be a separate tab akin to the Talk page for each article. --] (]) 16:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
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"The NLR id XXXXXXXXX is not valid"
I'm seeing this large notice in red on all kinds of Authority Control templates now. Also "The BNC id XXXXXXXXXX is not valid". Sample: . Could someone please fix this? Softlavender (talk) 08:40, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
There are currently nearly 700 NLR invalid messages on Authority Control templates: , and at least 170 BNC invalid messages: . -- Softlavender (talk) 10:13, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
NLM
Is https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nlmcatalog/101321165 an authority control number for Thomas Morstede? WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Template:ACArt created
I have created Template:ACArt, a visual arts specific version of the general Template:Authority Control. I have implemented it at Jan van Eyck as a demonstration: it reduces the clutter of 36 or so AC links to a much more reasonable 15, keeping the arts-specific ones (like RKD or Balat) and the most useful general ones for enwiki (Worldcat, LoC, ...), but removing the less interesting ones (non-English ones simply repeating the biographic basics, or things like Musicbrainz). The selection of what to include and what to exclude may need refinement, this is done in Module:ACArt (a spin-off of Module:Authority control).
All you need to do is replace, at the bottom of an article, {{Authority control}} with {{ACArt}}, et voilà! Fram (talk) 10:08, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
I have now replaced this template with a new version, not with its own module but as a wrapper with suppression of the unwanted links.
- Advantages: all improvements to the main template are automatically used in the ACArt template as well, no separate maintenance and module needed.
- Disadvantages:
- In Preview, you get a long list of very ugly error messages caused by the link suppression, which are unwanted for this wrapper
- When a new ID is added to the main template, it will need to get suppressed at the ACArt template.
For now, this looks to me like the better solution compared to a separate template. If we continue to go this route, with more separate wrappers for separate groups, it may be useful to think of yet another solution, where you e.g. have again one template, with one "switch" parameter, like {{Template:Authority control|type:Art}}. That would again put all maintenance in one spot, but may make for a very heavy to process template.
Other solutions and improvements welcome of course! Fram (talk) 15:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Done — preview-warning removed for suppressed params. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 13:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! Fram (talk) 13:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
RfC about the look of the template started
I've started Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: make Template:Authority control more reader-friendly. Fram (talk) 10:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
When and where to use?
Is there a relevant guideline considering when and where to place the Authority control template? I know it was added to biography articles following RfC support of Misplaced Pages:Authority control integration proposal, but the current information page doesn't say whether it is actually recommended to use the template on non-biographies, only that authority control data covers them. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:24, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm quite curious about this myself, AC feels like a lot of additional metadata to include on each page, and of dubious utility to most readers. Almost feels like something that should be a separate tab akin to the Talk page for each article. --MKV (talk) 16:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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