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Old Tatar

Hello, please, indicate the source where the Old Tatar language in English will be — Old Bashkir.--Ilnur efende (talk) 13:13, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Crimean Tatars in Romania

Tatars in Romania also called Crimean Tatars and sometimes they called him self Crimean. TayfunEt. (talk) 16:59, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@TayfunEt.: I saw your flag edit, but the flag doesn't appear somewhere. It seems like you did the flag based on the logo. That's not allowed. Also it is mentioned that Dobrujan Tatars are Crimean Tatars. Beshogur (talk) 17:01, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@Beshogur: I also left a web site which shows the flag and the Taraq tamga, the flag is from the organisation UDTTMR ( Democratic Union of Tatar Turks Muslims of Romania); http://uniuneatatara.ro/krm/. And I am one of Dobrudja Tatars, the flag is not made by me, the flag is made by UDTTMR is also the Flag of the organisation. Yes they mentioned, but not the Name of the Tatars, we in Dobrudja are not only Tatars also Crimean.

@TayfunEt.: can you show the exact link of the flag? I can't find. Beshogur (talk) 17:16, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@Beshogur: Is also possible to buy it in Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MQNHF3H/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_VM9P23RFKXVXWJW53SFC but they have pressure problem (what I think).

That's not a source. I need the one they use, if there's not. Sorry I can't place that again. Beshogur (talk) 17:28, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@Beshogur: http://uniuneatatara.ro/krm/ in the web site you can see the news and one of the shows flag , is the same but the logo of UDTTMR is in it and how I say is actually the flag of the organisation, but they put the Mosque top in Taraq tamga. And they also have YouTube channel UDTTMR, there needs to be. And you can see the Logo or Symbol of the organisation, is similar to the flag.

@Beshogur: I don't know, you will choose, to put the flag back, but the Name Crimean Tatars of Romania, is my please for you.

"Crimean Tatars of Romania" is wrong term because it doesn't appear in any source. The article also mentions that most of them are Crimean Tatars. Also can you link the youtube video here>? Beshogur (talk) 17:54, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@Beshogur: Is not wrong term, they are Crimean and they are many sources that says most of them are Crimean Tatars and some the Nogais also says that they are Crimean. And here is for you a source, from a nogai: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQF36XMIxw&feature=youtu.be For the video with the flag, I will search for it.

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Edit warring

Please cite policy before you unilaterally alter a long standing set of usages in a text.Nishidani (talk) 14:25, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Kazakh Khanate: Vandalism

Hi @Beshogur:. Was wandering why my vandalism removal was reverted in the entry statement of Kazakh Khanate.
This statement itself if unscientific - "and raided Russia territories throughout the 18th century". Russian Empire was an Empire and was expanding, (i.e. conquering) lands of Kipchak Turks. Not the other way around.
Also having a slave trade was not something unique to Kazakh Khanate so it should be explicitly stressed in the opening statement on the page. I'll revert the changes. Please let me know if you wanna discuss it further.
Full disclosure: I'm of Kazakh descent and have interests in Turkic history and culture. TarlanT (talk) 14:00 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Turkish flags (February 19)

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Hello, Beshogur! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Misplaced Pages where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Rusalkii (talk) 23:17, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

@Rusalkii: thanks but I'm not a new editor, I edited the article that was in terrible condition. I agree that there are not much sources, however there are various "List of ... flags" articles that barely have 1 2 sources. I think this deserves to be listed; if the others were not moved to drafts. I'll be updating that often. Beshogur (talk) 15:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, the teahouse invite is an automated message that gets sent along with the decline if the script sees that you don't have an invite yet. I wonder if we can edit the script to not send it to users past a certain edit count. Glad to see that the article's been improved and accepted! Rusalkii (talk) 00:34, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

It's fine. Thanks. Beshogur (talk) 10:28, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Turkish flags has been accepted

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Ottoman Empire

Hej, do you feel any difference between EN and russian? Džambuiluk is Dzhambuyluk, not russian Džambuilukskaya Horde. Do you know russian? I do. And don`t want to see in EN_wiki dumbest translation from rusissian to russian. Horde must be in english dear Sir. -- Makenzis 14:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Those seems proper transliterations and commonly used in English. Yes I know a bit Russian. And don`t want to see in EN_wiki dumbest translation form rusissian to russian. this is not my problem since this is not Russian wiki. Bye. Beshogur (talk) 14:59, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Bye-bye, but again priviet. I see, that you a little bit know and a little bit must to understand, that DžambuilskAYA Horde can`t exsist in EN_wiki. Do simply: Džmabuiluck, Džabluyluk, or Horde of Džambuiluk, but you defending and discovering Džambuylutskaya? What`s that? Nonsense! Someone very lazy to think, so writing simple plan translations. -- Makenzis 14:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Makenzis: Hello I don't get you. What's the problem? You say that those transliterations are wrong? Beshogur (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

@Makenzis: Oh, my mistake. I thought you did the opposite edit. Thanks for correcting it, but I removed it considering there is no source. Beshogur (talk) 15:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Few years ago i created Budžaka and some other xanligi (Kasim, Nogay, Karabakh), so intrested in that. I wanted to create some others. Just looking of my homework, without sourses, of course. And saw russian -aya; so i wanted to say about that to you. -- Makenzis 15:23, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

March 2022

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