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! Verse | |||
! Hebrew | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 1 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .לַמְנַצֵּחַ, מִזְמוֹר לְדָוִד | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 2 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .יַעַנְךָ יְהוָה, בְּיוֹם צָרָה; יְשַׂגֶּבְךָ, שֵׁם אֱלֹהֵי יַעֲקֹב | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 3 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .יִשְׁלַח-עֶזְרְךָ מִקֹּדֶשׁ; וּמִצִּיּוֹן, יִסְעָדֶךָּ | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 4 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .יִזְכֹּר כָּל-מִנְחֹתֶךָ; וְעוֹלָתְךָ יְדַשְּׁנֶה סֶלָה | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 5 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .יִתֶּן-לְךָ כִלְבָבֶךָ; וְכָל-עֲצָתְךָ יְמַלֵּא | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 6 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | ;נְרַנְּנָה, בִּישׁוּעָתֶךָ-- וּבְשֵׁם-אֱלֹהֵינוּ נִדְגֹּל | |||
.יְמַלֵּא יְהוָה, כָּל-מִשְׁאֲלוֹתֶיךָ | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 7 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | :עַתָּה יָדַעְתִּי-- כִּי הוֹשִׁיעַ יְהוָה, מְשִׁיחוֹ | |||
.יַעֲנֵהוּ, מִשְּׁמֵי קָדְשׁוֹ-- בִּגְבֻרוֹת, יֵשַׁע יְמִינוֹ | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 8 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | ;אֵלֶּה בָרֶכֶב, וְאֵלֶּה בַסּוּסִים | |||
.וַאֲנַחְנוּ, בְּשֵׁם-יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ נַזְכִּיר | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 9 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .הֵמָּה, כָּרְעוּ וְנָפָלוּ; וַאֲנַחְנוּ קַּמְנוּ, וַנִּתְעוֹדָד | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 10 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .יְהוָה הוֹשִׁיעָה: הַמֶּלֶךְ, יַעֲנֵנוּ בְיוֹם-קָרְאֵנוּ | |||
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==21== | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
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! Verse | |||
! Hebrew | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 1 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .לַמְנַצֵּחַ, מִזְמוֹר לְדָוִד | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 2 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .יְהוָה, בְּעָזְּךָ יִשְׂמַח-מֶלֶךְ; וּבִישׁוּעָתְךָ, מַה-יגיל (יָּגֶל) מְאֹד | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 3 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .תַּאֲוַת לִבּוֹ, נָתַתָּה לּוֹ; וַאֲרֶשֶׁת שְׂפָתָיו, בַּל-מָנַעְתָּ סֶּלָה | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 4 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי-תְקַדְּמֶנּוּ, בִּרְכוֹת טוֹב; תָּשִׁית לְרֹאשׁוֹ, עֲטֶרֶת פָּז | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 5 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .חַיִּים, שָׁאַל מִמְּךָ--נָתַתָּה לּוֹ; אֹרֶךְ יָמִים, עוֹלָם וָעֶד | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 6 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .גָּדוֹל כְּבוֹדוֹ, בִּישׁוּעָתֶךָ; הוֹד וְהָדָר, תְּשַׁוֶּה עָלָיו | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 7 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי-תְשִׁיתֵהוּ בְרָכוֹת לָעַד; תְּחַדֵּהוּ בְשִׂמְחָה, אֶת-פָּנֶיךָ | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 8 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי-הַמֶּלֶךְ, בֹּטֵחַ בַּיהוָה; וּבְחֶסֶד עֶלְיוֹן, בַּל-יִמּוֹט | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 9 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .תִּמְצָא יָדְךָ, לְכָל-אֹיְבֶיךָ; יְמִינְךָ, תִּמְצָא שֹׂנְאֶיךָ | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 10 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | :תְּשִׁיתֵמוֹ, כְּתַנּוּר אֵשׁ-- לְעֵת פָּנֶיךָ | |||
.יְהוָה, בְּאַפּוֹ יְבַלְּעֵם; וְתֹאכְלֵם אֵשׁ | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 11 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .פִּרְיָמוֹ, מֵאֶרֶץ תְּאַבֵּד; וְזַרְעָם, מִבְּנֵי אָדָם | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 12 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי-נָטוּ עָלֶיךָ רָעָה; חָשְׁבוּ מְזִמָּה, בַּל-יוּכָלוּ | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 13 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי, תְּשִׁיתֵמוֹ שֶׁכֶם; בְּמֵיתָרֶיךָ, תְּכוֹנֵן עַל-פְּנֵיהֶם | |||
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| style="text-align:right" | 14 | |||
| style="text-align:right" | .רוּמָה יְהוָה בְּעֻזֶּךָ; נָשִׁירָה וּנְזַמְּרָה, גְּבוּרָתֶךָ | |||
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Hebrew
El C, can you please do Psalm 69? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
The next 2 to be expanded are Psalm 146 and Psalm 115, because they will be linked from the TFA on 4 April. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda, is your changes to the TOS (heading/subheading) intentional? Also, for my own reference: perm link to 124-150. Anyway, below is your March 30 request. As for your April 4 requests: I already did 146 — would you like me to do 115? El_C 02:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- 115 instantly done! El_C 02:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's great, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Psalm 69 also taken with thanks! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for Psalm 12, and next time you can just overwrite the below when sure I took it. (Unless you dare to copy it right to the psalm article, - I see no danger, really ;) ) - I don't know which the next one will be. I go to church, and usually there is a psalm, and when we haven't improved it, that's the one, otherwise just the next missing in our list, which would be Psalm 14. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- But will it be all set up again? Asking for a fweind. El_C 09:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- I could do that, but it would not be difficult to change the "12" to "14" (three times), and remove the present Hebrew by the new. I don't know how you work with the table. For English KJV, there's no table but I can copy the source text which has verse numbers, and replace them by our # sign, with the same result. The Hebrew has a table because initially it had an English translation, but - sad, sad, sad - that was removed as copyvio because Yoninah chose a better modern one. If we give up ever having a translation, we could probably handle the Hebrew the same way: just verse #. Very often the numbers are not the same for both, nor is the KJV a good translation of the Hebrew, - that's why they are below each other. Also, of course, with Hebrew written from right to left, it looks better right aligned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting. I've never read the KJV in full, but every couple of years I read the Hebrew Bible from cover to cover. KJV is what the Mimre Institute is using right? Not, say, the Tyndale Bible. ;) El_C 10:13, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Out of interest, what was the modern source that Yoninah was using? El_C 10:16, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- The KJV is Wikisoource, a historic Bible, with some old language. In Germany, in normal services it will be a newer translation than Martin Luther's. - I don't know exactly which source Yoninah used for a translation, but take about any psalm where not you added the Hebrew, and check the history for the revdel process. Or - perhaps better - check out the archive of Psalms, Talk:Psalms/Archive 2, - well, not better, didn't find it, possibly https://outskirtspress.com/ mentioned in archive 1. Perhaps check out her talk, or ask Diannaa. - I wonder why the archives don't show on the talk, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- I could do that, but it would not be difficult to change the "12" to "14" (three times), and remove the present Hebrew by the new. I don't know how you work with the table. For English KJV, there's no table but I can copy the source text which has verse numbers, and replace them by our # sign, with the same result. The Hebrew has a table because initially it had an English translation, but - sad, sad, sad - that was removed as copyvio because Yoninah chose a better modern one. If we give up ever having a translation, we could probably handle the Hebrew the same way: just verse #. Very often the numbers are not the same for both, nor is the KJV a good translation of the Hebrew, - that's why they are below each other. Also, of course, with Hebrew written from right to left, it looks better right aligned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- But will it be all set up again? Asking for a fweind. El_C 09:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for Psalm 12, and next time you can just overwrite the below when sure I took it. (Unless you dare to copy it right to the psalm article, - I see no danger, really ;) ) - I don't know which the next one will be. I go to church, and usually there is a psalm, and when we haven't improved it, that's the one, otherwise just the next missing in our list, which would be Psalm 14. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- 115 instantly done! El_C 02:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
62 as a model
Hebrew Bible version
The following is the Hebrew text of Psalm 62:
Verse | Hebrew |
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1 | .לַמְנַצֵּחַ עַל-יְדוּתוּן-- מִזְמוֹר לְדָוִד |
2 | .אַךְ אֶל-אֱלֹהִים, דּוּמִיָּה נַפְשִׁי; מִמֶּנּוּ, יְשׁוּעָתִי |
3 | .אַךְ-הוּא צוּרִי, וִישׁוּעָתִי; מִשְׂגַּבִּי, לֹא-אֶמּוֹט רַבָּה |
4 | :עַד-אָנָה, תְּהוֹתְתוּ עַל-אִישׁ-- תְּרָצְּחוּ כֻלְּכֶם
.כְּקִיר נָטוּי; גָּדֵר, הַדְּחוּיָה |
5 | :אַךְ מִשְּׂאֵתוֹ, יָעֲצוּ לְהַדִּיחַ-- יִרְצוּ כָזָב
.בְּפִיו יְבָרֵכוּ; וּבְקִרְבָּם, יְקַלְלוּ-סֶלָה |
6 | .אַךְ לֵאלֹהִים, דּוֹמִּי נַפְשִׁי: כִּי-מִמֶּנּוּ, תִּקְוָתִי |
7 | .אַךְ-הוּא צוּרִי, וִישׁוּעָתִי; מִשְׂגַּבִּי, לֹא אֶמּוֹט |
8 | .עַל-אֱלֹהִים, יִשְׁעִי וּכְבוֹדִי; צוּר-עֻזִּי מַחְסִי, בֵּאלֹהִים |
9 | ;בִּטְחוּ בוֹ בְכָל-עֵת, עָם-- שִׁפְכוּ-לְפָנָיו לְבַבְכֶם
.אֱלֹהִים מַחֲסֶה-לָּנוּ סֶלָה |
10 | :אַךְ, הֶבֶל בְּנֵי-אָדָם-- כָּזָב בְּנֵי-אִישׁ
.בְּמֹאזְנַיִם לַעֲלוֹת; הֵמָּה, מֵהֶבֶל יָחַד |
11 | :אַל-תִּבְטְחוּ בְעֹשֶׁק, וּבְגָזֵל אַל-תֶּהְבָּלוּ
.חַיִל כִּי-יָנוּב-- אַל-תָּשִׁיתוּ לֵב |
12 | .אַחַת, דִּבֶּר אֱלֹהִים--שְׁתַּיִם-זוּ שָׁמָעְתִּי: כִּי עֹז, לֵאלֹהִים |
13 | .וּלְךָ-אֲדֹנָי חָסֶד: כִּי-אַתָּה תְשַׁלֵּם לְאִישׁ כְּמַעֲשֵׂהוּ |
- "Psalms Chapter 62 תְּהִלִּים". mechon-mamre.org. Retrieved 31 March 2022.