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! Verse
! Hebrew
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| style="text-align:right" | 1
| style="text-align:right" | .לַמְנַצֵּחַ, מִזְמוֹר לְדָוִד
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| style="text-align:right" | 2
| style="text-align:right" | .יַעַנְךָ יְהוָה, בְּיוֹם צָרָה; יְשַׂגֶּבְךָ, שֵׁם אֱלֹהֵי יַעֲקֹב
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| style="text-align:right" | 3
| style="text-align:right" | .יִשְׁלַח-עֶזְרְךָ מִקֹּדֶשׁ; וּמִצִּיּוֹן, יִסְעָדֶךָּ
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| style="text-align:right" | 4
| style="text-align:right" | .יִזְכֹּר כָּל-מִנְחֹתֶךָ; וְעוֹלָתְךָ יְדַשְּׁנֶה סֶלָה
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| style="text-align:right" | 5
| style="text-align:right" | .יִתֶּן-לְךָ כִלְבָבֶךָ; וְכָל-עֲצָתְךָ יְמַלֵּא
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| style="text-align:right" | 6
| style="text-align:right" | ;נְרַנְּנָה, בִּישׁוּעָתֶךָ-- וּבְשֵׁם-אֱלֹהֵינוּ נִדְגֹּל
.יְמַלֵּא יְהוָה, כָּל-מִשְׁאֲלוֹתֶיךָ
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| style="text-align:right" | 7
| style="text-align:right" | :עַתָּה יָדַעְתִּי-- כִּי הוֹשִׁיעַ יְהוָה, מְשִׁיחוֹ
.יַעֲנֵהוּ, מִשְּׁמֵי קָדְשׁוֹ-- בִּגְבֻרוֹת, יֵשַׁע יְמִינוֹ
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| style="text-align:right" | 8
| style="text-align:right" | ;אֵלֶּה בָרֶכֶב, וְאֵלֶּה בַסּוּסִים
.וַאֲנַחְנוּ, בְּשֵׁם-יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ נַזְכִּיר
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| style="text-align:right" | 9
| style="text-align:right" | .הֵמָּה, כָּרְעוּ וְנָפָלוּ; וַאֲנַחְנוּ קַּמְנוּ, וַנִּתְעוֹדָד
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| style="text-align:right" | 10
| style="text-align:right" | .יְהוָה הוֹשִׁיעָה: הַמֶּלֶךְ, יַעֲנֵנוּ בְיוֹם-קָרְאֵנוּ
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==21==

{| class="wikitable"
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! Verse
! Hebrew
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| style="text-align:right" | 1
| style="text-align:right" | .לַמְנַצֵּחַ, מִזְמוֹר לְדָוִד
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| style="text-align:right" | 2
| style="text-align:right" | .יְהוָה, בְּעָזְּךָ יִשְׂמַח-מֶלֶךְ; וּבִישׁוּעָתְךָ, מַה-יגיל (יָּגֶל) מְאֹד
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| style="text-align:right" | 3
| style="text-align:right" | .תַּאֲוַת לִבּוֹ, נָתַתָּה לּוֹ; וַאֲרֶשֶׁת שְׂפָתָיו, בַּל-מָנַעְתָּ סֶּלָה
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| style="text-align:right" | 4
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי-תְקַדְּמֶנּוּ, בִּרְכוֹת טוֹב; תָּשִׁית לְרֹאשׁוֹ, עֲטֶרֶת פָּז
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| style="text-align:right" | 5
| style="text-align:right" | .חַיִּים, שָׁאַל מִמְּךָ--נָתַתָּה לּוֹ; אֹרֶךְ יָמִים, עוֹלָם וָעֶד
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| style="text-align:right" | 6
| style="text-align:right" | .גָּדוֹל כְּבוֹדוֹ, בִּישׁוּעָתֶךָ; הוֹד וְהָדָר, תְּשַׁוֶּה עָלָיו
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| style="text-align:right" | 7
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי-תְשִׁיתֵהוּ בְרָכוֹת לָעַד; תְּחַדֵּהוּ בְשִׂמְחָה, אֶת-פָּנֶיךָ
|-
| style="text-align:right" | 8
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי-הַמֶּלֶךְ, בֹּטֵחַ בַּיהוָה; וּבְחֶסֶד עֶלְיוֹן, בַּל-יִמּוֹט
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| style="text-align:right" | 9
| style="text-align:right" | .תִּמְצָא יָדְךָ, לְכָל-אֹיְבֶיךָ; יְמִינְךָ, תִּמְצָא שֹׂנְאֶיךָ
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| style="text-align:right" | 10
| style="text-align:right" | :תְּשִׁיתֵמוֹ, כְּתַנּוּר אֵשׁ-- לְעֵת פָּנֶיךָ
.יְהוָה, בְּאַפּוֹ יְבַלְּעֵם; וְתֹאכְלֵם אֵשׁ
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| style="text-align:right" | 11
| style="text-align:right" | .פִּרְיָמוֹ, מֵאֶרֶץ תְּאַבֵּד; וְזַרְעָם, מִבְּנֵי אָדָם
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| style="text-align:right" | 12
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי-נָטוּ עָלֶיךָ רָעָה; חָשְׁבוּ מְזִמָּה, בַּל-יוּכָלוּ
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| style="text-align:right" | 13
| style="text-align:right" | .כִּי, תְּשִׁיתֵמוֹ שֶׁכֶם; בְּמֵיתָרֶיךָ, תְּכוֹנֵן עַל-פְּנֵיהֶם
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| style="text-align:right" | 14
| style="text-align:right" | .רוּמָה יְהוָה בְּעֻזֶּךָ; נָשִׁירָה וּנְזַמְּרָה, גְּבוּרָתֶךָ
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Hebrew

El C, can you please do Psalm 69? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

The next 2 to be expanded are Psalm 146 and Psalm 115, because they will be linked from the TFA on 4 April. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Gerda, is your changes to the TOS (heading/subheading) intentional? Also, for my own reference: perm link to 124-150. Anyway, below is your March 30 request. As for your April 4 requests: I already did 146 — would you like me to do 115? El_C 02:45, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
115 instantly done! El_C 02:47, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
That's great, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:53, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Psalm 69 also taken with thanks! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for Psalm 12, and next time you can just overwrite the below when sure I took it. (Unless you dare to copy it right to the psalm article, - I see no danger, really ;) ) - I don't know which the next one will be. I go to church, and usually there is a psalm, and when we haven't improved it, that's the one, otherwise just the next missing in our list, which would be Psalm 14. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
But will it be all set up again? Asking for a fweind. El_C 09:48, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I could do that, but it would not be difficult to change the "12" to "14" (three times), and remove the present Hebrew by the new. I don't know how you work with the table. For English KJV, there's no table but I can copy the source text which has verse numbers, and replace them by our # sign, with the same result. The Hebrew has a table because initially it had an English translation, but - sad, sad, sad - that was removed as copyvio because Yoninah chose a better modern one. If we give up ever having a translation, we could probably handle the Hebrew the same way: just verse #. Very often the numbers are not the same for both, nor is the KJV a good translation of the Hebrew, - that's why they are below each other. Also, of course, with Hebrew written from right to left, it looks better right aligned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Interesting. I've never read the KJV in full, but every couple of years I read the Hebrew Bible from cover to cover. KJV is what the Mimre Institute is using right? Not, say, the Tyndale Bible. ;) El_C 10:13, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Out of interest, what was the modern source that Yoninah was using? El_C 10:16, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
The KJV is Wikisoource, a historic Bible, with some old language. In Germany, in normal services it will be a newer translation than Martin Luther's. - I don't know exactly which source Yoninah used for a translation, but take about any psalm where not you added the Hebrew, and check the history for the revdel process. Or - perhaps better - check out the archive of Psalms, Talk:Psalms/Archive 2, - well, not better, didn't find it, possibly https://outskirtspress.com/ mentioned in archive 1. Perhaps check out her talk, or ask Diannaa. - I wonder why the archives don't show on the talk, btw. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

62 as a model

Hebrew Bible version

The following is the Hebrew text of Psalm 62:

Verse Hebrew
1 .לַמְנַצֵּחַ עַל-יְדוּתוּן-- מִזְמוֹר לְדָוִד
2 .אַךְ אֶל-אֱלֹהִים, דּוּמִיָּה נַפְשִׁי; מִמֶּנּוּ, יְשׁוּעָתִי
3 .אַךְ-הוּא צוּרִי, וִישׁוּעָתִי; מִשְׂגַּבִּי, לֹא-אֶמּוֹט רַבָּה
4 :עַד-אָנָה, תְּהוֹתְתוּ עַל-אִישׁ-- תְּרָצְּחוּ כֻלְּכֶם

.כְּקִיר נָטוּי; גָּדֵר, הַדְּחוּיָה

5 :אַךְ מִשְּׂאֵתוֹ, יָעֲצוּ לְהַדִּיחַ-- יִרְצוּ כָזָב

.בְּפִיו יְבָרֵכוּ; וּבְקִרְבָּם, יְקַלְלוּ-סֶלָה

6 .אַךְ לֵאלֹהִים, דּוֹמִּי נַפְשִׁי: כִּי-מִמֶּנּוּ, תִּקְוָתִי
7 .אַךְ-הוּא צוּרִי, וִישׁוּעָתִי; מִשְׂגַּבִּי, לֹא אֶמּוֹט
8 .עַל-אֱלֹהִים, יִשְׁעִי וּכְבוֹדִי; צוּר-עֻזִּי מַחְסִי, בֵּאלֹהִים
9 ;בִּטְחוּ בוֹ בְכָל-עֵת, עָם-- שִׁפְכוּ-לְפָנָיו לְבַבְכֶם

.אֱלֹהִים מַחֲסֶה-לָּנוּ סֶלָה

10 :אַךְ, הֶבֶל בְּנֵי-אָדָם-- כָּזָב בְּנֵי-אִישׁ

.בְּמֹאזְנַיִם לַעֲלוֹת; הֵמָּה, מֵהֶבֶל יָחַד

11 :אַל-תִּבְטְחוּ בְעֹשֶׁק, וּבְגָזֵל אַל-תֶּהְבָּלוּ

.חַיִל כִּי-יָנוּב-- אַל-תָּשִׁיתוּ לֵב

12 .אַחַת, דִּבֶּר אֱלֹהִים--שְׁתַּיִם-זוּ שָׁמָעְתִּי: כִּי עֹז, לֵאלֹהִים
13 .וּלְךָ-אֲדֹנָי חָסֶד: כִּי-אַתָּה תְשַׁלֵּם לְאִישׁ כְּמַעֲשֵׂהוּ
  1. "Psalms Chapter 62 תְּהִלִּים". mechon-mamre.org. Retrieved 31 March 2022.
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