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Hi, thanks, and a question

Thanks for the kind words, and it makes me glad to know there are others out there interested in Argentine comics. I have a question that, as I'm new here, you may have a clearer idea of than I do: How many categories and sub-categories should exist for Argentine comics? In light of the small number of articles extant in the english[REDACTED] for the sub-category Argentine comic strips, would it be best to merge them into Argentine comics? Especially since there is no corresponding sub-category for Argentine comics books? steventity 19:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

...for keeping an eye on vandalism on the Naples page. Also, the new monuments infox box looks fine. Much better than the old red one. Saluti da Napoli. Jeffmatt 07:42, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Image licenses

IMAGES FROM www.araldicacivica.it I am uploading numerous coat of arms image from www.araldicacivica.it, that I use in infobox of Italian communes. Authorisation to their use here can be found at: it:Misplaced Pages:Autorizzazioni ottenute/Stemmi

IMAGES FOR PALAZZOLO ACREIDE just received this authorisation to use the images from www.palazzolo-acreide.it

certo che puoi utilizzarle... fai conto però che alcune immagini (le gallerie del barocco, ad esempio) sono mie (Andrea Latina/Centro Studi Iblei) e la maggior parte di quelle presenti sul sito sono dell'associazione culturale Studi Acrensi.

Andrea Latina (RESUME): "of course you can use them"

IMAGES FROM www.lamiasardegna.it

asking for the possibilty to use images, I received this reply from the site webmaster: Sono l'autore del sito, delle foto e dei testi. Per Misplaced Pages senz'altro SI, la apprezzo molto, dovrei però sapere (anche eventualmente a posteriori) in quali pagine sono state utilizzate. Cordiali saluti. Claudio de Tisi. (June 16 2006) (RESUME) "I author of the site I authorize the use of the images for Misplaced Pages, provided I will be informed about the pages they're used in."

Questionable Slavic mythology entries

Dear Attilios,

I've noticed that you have made two new articles for Slavic gods, Peklenc and Ozwiena. I would like to see sources from which you have taken these deities, because I have personaly never heard or read anything of them, and from information presented in the articles, it appears to me as (sorry ofr being so blunt) as pure rubbish. Please understand that Slavic mythology is, due to sparse historical or archeological evidences, imensly fertile ground for development of fakelore. I'm trying my best to improve the overral very low quality of Slavic mythology articles on Misplaced Pages, and it realy doesn't help my efforst if unrefrenced articles on very suspicious "Slavic" deities keep springing up. --Hierophant 18:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

• It is quite possible that someone in fact would come here and add such stuff, not nessecarily inventing it from scratch, but simply repeating some older invention; this is the essence of fakelore. A lot of Slavic mythology articles here are a production of various Slavic neopagans and/or romantics who use Misplaced Pages to advertise their own agendas. They also may have good intentions, but use completly obscure or unreliable or perhaps even, as you put it, "standard" books on the topic. Dividing fakelore from historical Slavic mythology is a matter of controversy even amongst the experts themselves, so the least[REDACTED] should strive is to demand ANY refrences whatsoever for topics concerning Slavic deities; most cannot even produce that. Thus, it would be wise to think twice before translating such unrefrenced articles from other versions of wikipedia. I'm strongly inclined to nominate these two for deletion. --Hierophant 19:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

What's your map priority?

Attilios, of all the maps in User:Attilios/Map which would you like reworked first? I like the Livonia one, myself, but you no doubt are looking for some before others. It generally takes me a week or 2 for a map, so don't expect anything soon (unfortunately). And I may not be able to get to them all. MapMaster 19:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Two questions:

• In what article will the new Livonia map be used? I like to try to tailor each map to an article (or articles) and use the same names as used in the article etc.
• What is the source of that map I am reworking? I like to include my sources on the Misplaced Pages Commons page.

Thanks, MapMaster 23:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm done with the map and I think it turned out well! I also found quite a large number of articles that could use the map. I would be happy to translate it into Italian (or any language) if I had the help. Hope you like it. As you may know from my other maps, I am not able to include all the detail of the paper maps, primarily due to the lack of resolution available onscreen. Let me know of any errors or improvements. MapMaster 23:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Attilios, I have translated the Livonian Confederation map into Italian (see map at right). Could you review this for accuracy?? Perhaps you could also check my Italian User Page to ensure that it is grammatically correct. Any additions or corrections would be appreciated. Grazie, MapMaster 21:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Fastifex

I'm sorry to here he's gone: I was really hoping to resolve this. Luckily he was being cooperative -- which is more than you can say about a lot of people involved with this kind of stuff! It's unfortunate that he hasn't been around, as he did contribute many helpful and constructive edits; hopefully if he comes back he'll look over WP:STYLE and work it into his subsequent contributions. Best regards, — Editor at Large 01:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Il mio inglese

Hai ragione fa schifo e quello che mi riesce suona davvero scolastico :) Non concordo però con te nel rimuovere tutte le mie ultime aggiunte in Gaetano Bedini .. alcune cose si capivano benissimo .. come tra l'altro la rimozione della "genealogia episcopale" e della "successione espiscopale" --Genovese 07:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

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The Pizza Tapes

Thanks for the edits to The Pizza Tapes. It looks better than it did before. Half of what you did I forgot to do, and the other half I forgot about. Looks better now, even though I spent a lot of time on it (and even taught myself how to make music sample in .ogg formatting) there's still little bits here and there. Thanks again. Dark jedi requiem 17:40, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Paris Commune Flag

Atilios,

Sorry to revert your flag "move" on the French communes templates, but the pretext for your change was all wrong - there are no "standards" on Wiki. I do understand that the flag "down there" has yet to be adopted elsewhere, but please give it a chance. I'm just getting used to it myself. In fact, this solution seems much less awkward than putting the flag in the template, and there's something to say to the discression of its placement... if you have a better suggestion please suggest it, but until then please give the "new design" (and he who made it) a chance. Thanks and again apologies. THEPROMENADER 22:29, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

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Fortichiari

Hi and sorry for the delayed reply. I've rephrased and moved some stuff around in the process, but hopefully have not altered the meaning. Keep in touch. Dahn 15:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

No prob. I'm glad to help. Dahn 19:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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Copyrighted images, especially with restrictive licenses like 'must display copyright and url', don't allow readers of the[REDACTED] to reuse them in other works as fully PD images do. It's a nice image, but somebody could easily make a free version of it without any restrictions, and we've got plenty of Fw 190 pictures as it stands. If it was released into the public domain by the creator, then there would be no problem, but instead he's granted[REDACTED] exceptionally limited rights to display it. ericg ✈ 16:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Tornado table

Very nice work. Mark83 02:38, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Panarjedde

You bet he is involved in edit wars. And the worst part about his edit war with me is that he had no recent history on those pages. Kingjeff 22:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think you're going to get a response from this guy. He's deleted your message and he doesn't archive from what I know. Kingjeff 15:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

He's been at his little tricks again. Check Addhoc talk page. Kingjeff 18:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Attilios! One request

I refer to the edit by WmLGann, 13:49, 27 October 2006 in the article Coimbatore

I am particularly concerned with the following edits:

No. 1

"is one of the major industrial cities in South India" to

"is an industrial city in South India. "

No. 2

"It is the second largest city in Tamil Nadu after Chennai and the fourth largest city in South India." to

"It has the second largest population in Tamil Nadu after Chennai and the fourth largest in South India."

The objective of both the edits is not clear.

Coimbatore is one of the largest industrial cities in India. The annual export alone, from this region is over US$ 1 billion. . The city is well known for its heavy industrial activity.

Coming to edit No. 2, a city when being sorted among the largest cities, is usually sorted based on the population. The highest populated city in any country is the biggest city in that country. In that case, though the edit by WmLGann is not miscommunicating, it does not make any sense or it does not improve the article in any way.

So I kindly request you to revert it.

The Incredulity of Saint Thomas (Caravaggio)

I was surprised to see this tagged for speedy deletion. The speedy tagger claims that it is taken from this page at the Web Gallery of Art site. I notice that you have posted this page. I think you should be given a chance to weigh in before the page is deleted. Perhaps your text is actually the original and the Web Gallery of Art has taken the text from Misplaced Pages? Uppland 15:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Your edit on Rome's infobox

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. --Nehwyn 22:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

A reply has been posted to your comment on my talk page. --Nehwyn 23:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Arborea

You asked a while back about biographies of its rulers. I cannot find any information. Do you know of sources I could search for? Srnec 05:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Modica

Ciao, mi rendo conto che il mio inglese non è il massimo ma allora potremmo unire la mia conoscenza della storia di Modica alla tua competenza linguistica? In fondo il mio, sebbene "poor", è un inglese comprensibile e, quel che più conta, le informazioni che vorrei inserire sono della massima correttezza, neutrali e aggiornate su opere di storici di grido, non certo di pseudo scrittorucoli di paese... Attendo risposta, grazie!

WikiProject Italy

Is there a WikiProject Italy? It might be helpful for your situation. Kingjeff 03:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Would you be interested in start the project with me? We could see if there are more interested. Kingjeff 22:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Here is the location of the proposed page. Maybe you could also help out with Austrian WikiProject. Kingjeff 23:37, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

• Ok, fatto! Salutamu. πίππύ δ'Ω∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 00:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Italy/Naples

Sure, I could do that. What would I do that I don't already do? Jeffmatt 06:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

AMA case

Hi, I'm going to be your advocate for the AMA case. Addhoc 16:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Panarjedde

I found the term that could get Panarjedde banned. "Gaming the system" means the use of Misplaced Pages rules to thwart Misplaced Pages policy. In his case, he reverted 13 times on different articles in a few hours. Even though it technically isn't against the rules to revert more then 3 times on different articles, it goes against the spirit of the rule. So this is a possibility to get him banned. Kingjeff 23:30, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's only because of a stern warning from your case thing against him. Kingjeff 00:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Enrico/Errico

Their webstite says "Enrico". Oh, are you SURE that the gigantic moving panorama is a good iea? I'm not. The reader was able to click on a small pan to get the larger one. Jeffmatt 09:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

My behaviour

This is your opinion.--Panarjedde 14:37, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

(From Talk:Rome)

OK, sorry. What about the infobox? And why are you reverting the wide images without first debating it in the talk pages as insted you pretend for me here? Wanna speak of hypocrisy?--Attilios 17:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I am not asking you to collaborate with me, at the same time saying you won't; I did not say I wanted you to behave, and three minutes after that I really wnated you banned. You think you are allowed to be bold and revertinfoboxes without discussion, and yet you complain with me if I do something similar. You started all of this, sending me a message in which you offered collaboration and, at the same time, said I was not likely tom accept. I really think you do not want to collaborate, or even coexists, with people who do not like your ideas/edits; but this should be your problem, not mine.--Panarjedde 17:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

RfC procedure

Hi, regarding the AMA case, I think a RfC could be appropriate. In order for this to be valid, the users certifying the complaint are required to demonstrate their attempts to resolve the dispute. In this context, I would suggest you leave a note on Panarjedde's talk page outlining in what areas he could improve. Thanks, Addhoc 14:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

If you do, please, put it under User talk:Panarjedde/Warnings and blocks, it will avoid me to move it there. Thanks.--Panarjedde 14:48, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Wide images

My reson for removing wide images is that you can't force a user to download a 6000px image. Think of modem users, for example from schools, why should they be taxed so heavyly?--Panarjedde 18:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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Image:Benedetto Brin ship.jpg

Hello.

I see you uploaded this image from Marina Militare website, tagging it as GFDL. Note that this licensing is not possible, as GFDL allows commercial use of the image, which has not been allowed by the copyright holder (a meno di attività a fine di lucro ).

Please, find a better license.

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Floresta

The links i removed were incorrect. I removed them in order to enable my bot to add the proper ones. Are you the person who added many wrong interwiki-links to Italian community articles? Thijs! 00:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar!!

Thank you so very much for the Barnstar. You are very generous and encouraging, and it is much appreciated. I am (nearly) speechless! MapMaster 16:36, 10 November 2006

Yes, I do think Misplaced Pages editing can be very difficult, so difficult in fact that I decided to give it up except for the occasional typo fix. I completely understand.

By the way, could you tell me more about your idea for the Cerveteri Etruscan necropolis map? As you note, I have done a couple of maps on archaelogical sites and this necropolis intrigues me. In fact, the Etruscans intrigue me. Let me know. I need to do a Central Park map, but after that . . . . MapMaster 19:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Michelangelo, Last Judgement

You removed my comment on Michelangelo's Last judgement, which mentioned that from afar the last judgement looks like a human skull. Have you actually looked at the last judgement from afar, focusing on the broad outlines? The arches up top represent the brow, the "puddles" just below the eyes, the light patch in the center the nasal cavity, and the watery area towards the bottom the mouth. It's pretty hard to miss, and I can't imagine Michaelangelo accidentally arranged the "light" and "dark" areas of the mural in that form.

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Fiuggi

Thanks for your comments about my contributions to Fiuggi. I visited there about a month ago and am now making journal entries about my trip there (I live in Western North America). I like to do research on Misplaced Pages while writing my entries about places I have visited and found very little on Fiuggi. Had to go to other Internet sites to get what I wanted. While doing so, I couldn't resist adding what I found on those other sites to the Misplaced Pages page.

I came across the same problem concerning Chianciano Terme, Toscano. Perhaps you could view/edit that page as well. --Outwest14 11 November 2006

Technical Drawings.

Hi Attilios. You have a fantastic idea, I'm competant at drawing original material but by far what I'm best at is reworking old hand drawn diagrams into clean/modern pieces of computer generated graphics, such as those you have in this ageing text book. There are a few key things which is that a.) I dont speak italian, so any text needs to be translated for me preferably on the diagram itself to avoid confussion. Otherwise I'm very happy to do it, wikification of older text book images is a great idea. My email (which is probably an easier way to send scanned images over) is nick-daines<at>hotmail<dot>com. I look forward to seeing what diagrams you have. Theres no rush at all, as since my wasp diagram has been on the front page I've had a flurry of image requests, plenty to keep me busy until you get the book. Thanks WikipedianProlific 12:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Italy

Here is the temporary page for WikiProject Italy. Kingjeff 17:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Enrico Rastelli

Attilios, thanks for your interest in the article on Enrico Rastelli, however he was not an italian juggler. He was born in Russia, although he lived much of his life in Italy. Hope you do not mind, but I have reverted your edit. --Colin E. 09:30, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Gniew

Hello Attilios. My English is so so but I'll do my best to provide you some more information and if not I'll ask sb else who's English is better. Greetings. Ludmiła Pilecka

Hello. I've added some translation (part of history) to the article. You can check and correct it. Regards. Lou

Peklenc

I just read this article and fixed a redlink. I really enjoyed it! It's nice to see someone contributing real, academic content. Mr Spunky Toffee 15:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For especially fine contributions to Slavic mythology. Mr Spunky Toffee 15:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Map of Italy in 1000 AD (CE) added

Attilios, I have uploaded a map of 1000 CE Italy. However, I am at a loss as to how to describe the areas of Lombardy and Verona that appear in so many maps. I had originally listed them as the "Kingdom of Lombardy" and the "Duchy of Verona", but I now think I am mistaken. Any insight you have would be appreciated. MapMaster 23:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Munich

Would you be interested in helping out atWikiProject Munich? And you don't have to know anything about Munich. Maybe you could help out on bringing Munich-related articles up to Misplaced Pages Policies and guidlines standards or maybe another area where you could help improve Munich-related articles. Kingjeff 22:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Columbus is waiting

read what's written there.

Thanks

...for keeping an eye on the vandalism on the Naples page. Irritating, I know. Jeffmatt 10:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Footer

I made the box navigation on Nicholson's filmography. You reverted to that atrocious standard form saying it is a "footer". Could you explain me what a "footer" is? Thanks 201.37.247.93 18:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi, again. Congratulations for the FIFA World Cup! Well, I know that, but I don't see problems upgrading the layout of the filmographies templates. Misplaced Pages is a mutant encyclopedia. We have "footers", as you called it, to directors filmographies and that looks great and cool, so I intend to continue with the filmographies templates, there's not a rule against it. Yes, you're right, I'm working hard here and it's sad for me see my work being reverted, friend. See you. 201.37.247.93 05:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Munich

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You are invited to join WikiProject Munich!

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A WikiProject of this nature is very broad. Munich has a rich history in sports, culture, politics along with many more topics. Feel free to help out in your area of interest.

If you want to check the project out you can click the link above. If you want to join the project, you can sign up here.

If you have any questions feel free to contact myself or any other member of the project.

It doesn't take much to participate. Kingjeff 16:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Newspapers

Ciao! I've read your nice articles for "Misplaced Pages in the news". Simply I wanted to point out that newspapers articles should be in italics, and article titles between "...". Good work! --Attilios 09:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - I get that confused all the time - So the Title of the Newspaper should be italicized and the article title should be in quotes? --Trödel 16:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

John Cabot

Hi from England,
You seem to have made a mistake, or our browsers or screen resolutions create odd effects. You say on my Talk Page:
"Be careful when you move images, like in John Cabot. Your last move created unpleasant blank spaces... Ciao and good work!
Not so, there are no white spaces in my placement of the Cabot statue (I’ve been back in the History and checked). I have Internet Explorer Version 6 on a screen resolution of 1024 by 768. I've been placing pics on WP since January 2003 so I'm very aware of whitespace and highly experienced in placement of pics (over 1500 pics off my camera on WP so far). So it's a mystery!! Could differing screen resolutions produce the effect? I've moved the pic up again but not quite so far. Is it OK for you now? Best Wishes - Adrian Pingstone 11:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Carlo Gonzaga

All I knew about Gonzaga was that he had been in command of the Spanish cavalry. I had assumed that this meant he was Spanish himself, but if he was Italian, fair enough. The same applies to Madrazzo and Baglioni; Oman only specifies their commands, not their nationalities.

(As for using Oman, per se: despite being quite old, he is almost universally cited as the best secondary source available for reconstructions of the battles during this period.)

Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 23:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The fact that he Anglicizes (or, more likely, Francisizes) his spelling has little bearing on how accurate he is in terms of the narrative itself. Kirill Lokshin 23:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately ain't an expert in Italian wars... anyway I'm trying to work on the article to improve the accuracy. I will let you know (by the way, "Pietro" is clearly a misunderstanding for "Pirro", not a Francesizing). Bye.

Thanks! Particularly for the names of more minor figures, there's an obvious potential for error, as they tend to be mentioned once (sometimes in a footnote) in the source; thus, my knowledge of them is extraordinarily limited (assuming even that the source doesn't mess up the name to begin with). Kirill Lokshin 23:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Eh, disagreements between historians and errors in reconstructions are fairly commonplace (the Battle of Pavia being one where there's a half-dozen different versions of events); but things found on the internet aren't particularly reliable sources most of the time, either. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 00:11, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

{{cite book}}

Great work on the various Italian Wars articles. Please don't switch reference formats, though; the Manual of Style generally forbids undiscussed stylistic changes in developed articles (and I personally can't stand the bizarre format {{cite book}} produces). Thanks! :-) Kirill Lokshin 19:00, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Battle of Marciano

Very nice work! I'll see if I can find some time to take a look at it this afternoon. Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 19:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Titles of nobility in article names

I'm not entirely sure which version applies to the people in question, but the naming convention for nobility suggests that the use of a title may be appropriate even when the identity is clear without it; so moves like the one with Gaspard de Saulx may actually be away from the recommended name rather than to it. (Or maybe I'm misinterpreting which portion applies to non-British titles, of course.) Kirill Lokshin 00:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok. :-) Kirill Lokshin 04:54, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

WP Munich participation

You might want to start on some Stub-class Munich articles of your interest. Don't forget to reassess the article (If Necessary) if you're able to bring it up yo a B-class article. Kingjeff 19:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

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History of Polish Medieval

Hello. I'd like to help you but I'm not so proficient in biographical history, however if you have any problems with understanding you can count on my help, and my advice. In some cases I can also use some polish books about history - I have some of them in my "domestic library". If I can give you some advice - sometimes you can chceck the source in polish language with online translator: PL-EN, EN-PL - the english engine for Polski-Angielski, Angielski.-Polski. I know it's not a good way to write any translations, but sometimes it can give you some clues when you are confused about meaning. Huh... I'm also a newbie with TranslationProject - but I think it could be the best way to do some practise. So what kind of problems do you have. And what do you whant me to do, because my english grammar is poor ;) ... MonteChristof 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Virgine della Ghiara

Hi Attilios!

Good to hear from you! I took a quick look at the first article. It really needs only a little work to put the language right. Good work! Nonna--Amandajm 12:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

AMA case

Has Panarjedde calmed down enough to close the case? Addhoc 12:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

delle Ghiara

Hi! I found this on Wiki Commons. Did you upload it? It's not such an artistic shot as the one with the arcade and cupola but I thought that it was very useful as it shows the facade.

--Amandajm 12:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Simpliciano

What a stunning fresco! --Amandajm 13:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Attilios!

I've finished the other buildings! Will you check them please! I hope that I have done them to your liking. Please also check out St Mary's Cathedral, Sydney which I have just worked over. It is a wonderful Gothic Revival building with quite spectacular windows, but no good photos of them. --Amandajm 11:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Risorgimento

Hey - I'll try to help if I have time. Please see also my comments on the talk page of that article - I had some suggestions/comments. john k 03:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Santa Maria Sideniensis

Don't underestimate it's importance! Although it is not very old, it is the spiritual centre of the Catholic church for a very large region.

As for all the wonderful works of architecture that you mention, well, you and I will just have to do our best! I will take a loook at Milano and some of the others, add to them as much as i can. I must say that I find it much easier to write about buildings that I have seen like the cathedrals of Milan, Florence, Siena, Orvieto and the churches of Ravenna and Venice than to write from book research!

But i am familiar with many of the Venetian Churches and about 8 churches of Florence, not to mention having been to 40 churches of Rome in 4 days..... but our pilgrimage didn't count because we never got to the Basilica of St Pauls outside the Walls. I've been back to Rome since then and looked at quite a few of the titular churches.

Talk more later! ciao!

--Amandajm 12:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Latin form

Ah, ok. I copied the spelling of the title out of one of my sources, but that may just have been a typographical error on their part. Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 16:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure that Italian sources are no more immune to typos than English ones are! ;-)

But thank you for the Urbino article; it's a topic that's barely covered in English-language works on the period. Kirill Lokshin 17:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh, yes; the 1911 is generally horrible for anything not related to British history. Even when it's accurate, it tends to be extremely judgemental. Kirill Lokshin 18:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

November 17

Hi, I just noticed that you made a large edit to November 17 a few days ago. There were a couple of problems with the edit. First, you used this format:

• 1950
  • Tom Walkinshaw, British businessman
  • Carlo Verdone, Italian film director and actor

The standard format on those pages is described on Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Days of the year/Template. Multiple entries for the same year should be formatted like this:

• 1950 - Tom Walkinshaw, British businessman
• 1950 - Carlo Verdone, Italian film director and actor

The second problem is the redlinks. Since Carlo Verdone doesn't have a Misplaced Pages article, we can't include him on those pages. Several of the entries you added were redlinks, so I had to remove them. -- Jim Douglas _(contribs) 07:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Talk:D6

Please see my reply at User_talk:D6#BOTed_templates. -- User:Docu

Coats of arms for Swiss municipalities

I'm confused. At Grenchen you made an edit, saying coat fixed. But when I look at that article, I see that the coat of arms has now disappeared altogether. What were you trying to achieve with this edit?

Edit to add: I see Docu has now fixed it. But the question above still stands.

What is required is to place the image within the imagepath_coa field of the {{Infobox Swiss town}} template. Then you can see both the name and the coat of arms (if the latter exists). I suspect the reason for Docu's recent edits to the template were to try to get some sense of consistency about this template and the articles that reference it. Historically, the municipality articles were in a mess: some used a coat field, some imagepath_coa, and others made use of either one of these and placed the coat in the subject field. Now we at least have the potential for some consistency. As I said, all that is required is to identify the municipalities that aren't displaying the coat of arms correctly and edit them to make use of the imagepath_coa field. I can do this once the database dump started on 30 November has completed. (It will probably take a few more days.) Then I can run a Perl script against that dump and identify the remaining municipality articles. I'm not expecting very many, but we will see. Regards, --BillC 19:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Spelling

The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians gives Giammateo Asola as the main spelling of his name, and Asula, Asulae, and Giovanni Matteo as alternate spellings. Do you have a source which is more reputable which gives the other spelling? Mak (talk) 00:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, if you google the names, you get 2200 for Giammateo, and 31 for Gianmatteo. Also, your commented text rubs me the wrong way. It's not a good way to encourage people to work together cooperatively. Mak (talk) 00:07, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Please respond. If I don't hear back from you by tomorrow, I'll change the spelling to the more common one. Thanks, Mak (talk) 18:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I understand how sometimes new messages can become lost :) Grove has recently been thoroughly updated, and is considered the source for music topics. I was only using google as a secondary way of looking at the issue. The disparity is so huge, I see it as a fairly valid result. If you look at the rules for naming conventions, the deciding factor is generally what the vast majority of English speakers use. Thus, rather than "Nippon", we have an article on Japan, etc. Also, since he was a 16th century composer, it's not surprising that his name sounds outdated to you. Mak (talk) 19:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Could you please point to a modern Italian source which uses your preferred spelling? Just because it is the current spelling in general of this name, it does not necessarily follow that it would be considered correct for this composer. It is my understanding that many times in compound words, it is not unusual for combined consonants such as nm to become a double mm, I saw it all the time when I took Latin. Lastly, the journals Early Music (1999) Journal of the Royal Musical Association (1992), Journal of Musicology (1991) and others, use the double-m single-t spelling. Mak (talk) 21:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC) <-- Mak (talk) 16:35, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Are you monitoring Francesco Patrizi?

I can't really judge for myself on the issue, but I appreciate it that you are going ahead and trying to resolve the dispute on the talk page. I'll stop by occasionally to see how the discussion is progressing. Nishkid64 21:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Sancino

What was the Battle of Sancino? I had to remove it from the page for Battle of Pavia because it is not recommended to have red links in "See Also". --Ineffable3000 21:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, can you please include the source for the information you just provided? --Ineffable3000 21:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Daredevil

Hello Attilios,

I thank you for your efforts in patrolling the Daredevil page. I apologize if you felt that my edit was vandalism.

In the same regard as the link to the Marvel Directory a few spots above, the Marvel Database is an online reference in the same niche. I used the inter-wiki link for proper formatting.

Please accept my apology and reconsider my edit's value. If you agree that it is a worthwhile link, let me know and I will re-add it.

Regards,

--74.109.102.42 23:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Duomo di Milano

Ok! .... so it's all happening down at il Duomo, then ..... Check it out!

--Amandajm 07:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Henries IV and V

Thanks for the information. Henry IV was bad, but Henry V is worse! I will probably do more work on both soon, as I did do a big overhaul of Henry III a while back. A lot of major figures get less than their due at Misplaced Pages because it is such a daunting task to write a great article on such massive personages. Good job, by the way. Srnec 18:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for watching the vandalism on the Naples page. Jeffmatt 08:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:ES

Could you leave more specific edit summaries? Thanks, Ghirla 10:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Renaissance Architecture

Hi Attilios!

Thank you for fixing all my mistakes! Great job!

But WTF have you done with the dates? Pleeease put them all back or Nonna will get cross with you!

--Amandajm 12:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah!

I've come to that conclusion!

The reason why I left Raphael in is that someone previously put in Leonardo, Raphael and Micky-boy. Now, I removed Leo because all he did was doodle on paper. But I left raphhael because he did actually build things, he WAS employed as an architect for a time, and I don't want to ride rouughshod ovver other people. I havve already been moore or less accused of that!

Buggga this kkeyybbboard!

Annyway, if we go sticking in alll the lesser known bbods, there won't be enough room! I think that all the non-Italiann Renaissance things should each have there own page.... that way the person who contributed the Hungarian things will be happy,, Gian who writes so well about English buildings will be happy. Someone cann finnish the Spanish thing and more than six lines on Portugal. Renaissance Arch. in Ggermany needs its own pagge. And sooo on/.hat do you think? otherwise it will be blown oout of all proportion. I would ask Gian first.

--Amandajm 12:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Dates

No, Attilios,, this is about clarity,, OK. It's about being able to find your way around a big article easily. It needs the dates bbecause that is how you make simple direct comparison. Comparison is a key tool in learning. And my liittle three-name lists are similarly learning devices and a guide to what is in the section immediately below. I can dispense with the little lists if you insist bbut put the dates back!

We are not going to be that pedantic about style. If it is a passing reference, then thhe date is not necessary. But these are not passing references.

Attilios!

The dates are necessary to the article. No-one wnts to hop back and forwrd between articles just to find out something as simple as a date. I don't bbelieve that the rules say that dates muust not be included if there is a page on the person. If there is such a rule then it would be a stupid and impractical one.

Now, Pleeese don't invit people to edit the Michelanggelo, Romano and Palladio bits, just as I am in the middle of writing them! That would be a conflict and a nuisance. I'm going to finish those three right now if you will jjust get out of my hair for a little bit and let me get on with it.

Re- the very poor Italian- I am aware of my own shortcomings in this area. I really need someone like you to correct my Italian. One problem is, of couurse, that I gget information from old English books, or sometimes from books written in Italian and badly trannslated. it doesn't hhelp at all. With regard to the San Francesco building- my book clearly said that it used to be called that. That is the sort of thing I mean! it can be a simple ignorance of Italian or local practice!

--Amandajm 13:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

One book says Tempietto, the other, by a German, says Tempio. BF says Tempio. Thanks for fixing it!

And yes, you are quite right about Palladio of course, he is the other one that has to go in! Do you want to go hunting for a good wikicommons pic of Palazzo Tè while I write the next bit?

Ive got plenty on Paladio actually, but I've been using a bnice little dictioary of the renaissance bbecause it puts a lot of basic facts in a small compass and is easier to use for the biographies than sifting through a volume as big as an encyclopedia, evenn if they do have lots of distractingly pretty pictures. Back to work

--Amandajm 13:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

So just explain this- is it the Tea Palace for drinking Tea (because it's just a sort of single storey thing in the garden where one might have tea parties, or is it really named after the island and if so, at what point did the name go wrongg because my Italian sources have the Tè? I'm happy to leave the grave off. I never know which way they go anyway. It's one of the things I'm hopeless at! (But I do write good poetry).

--Amandajm 14:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Dates in Renaissance architecture

Attilios, I have searched for some rule pertaining to the use of dates and can't find one.

But having examined other articles my conclusion is as follows-

if the dates of the persons life is of no particular relevance to the particular article, then you leave them out, eg.

• "The last of James’s three male favorites was George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham."
• Simon's poetry was inspired by the music of Mozart.
• "Raphael entered the studio of Perugino in 1499."

But

When the person to whom one refers is introduced with a heading and is the whole subject of the paragraph- their work being absolutely integral to the understanding of the article and the article is framed as an historic progression, then dates are not only desirable but necessary.

I am reinserting them, because these are not mere passing references to the people- the work of these people is the whole subjject matter of the article.

I am sure that you can understand this, and that your persistence is really making me very cross. I realise that one can look up all the details of these people elswhere, but that means continual cross-referencing which continually interupts the flow of the article. That is not stylistically desirable. A surfeit of intternal links is not encouraged if the material can be neatly encapsulated. Dates help in this way because they give a precise time frame.

--Amandajm 08:35, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Attilios !

I still don't understand about the Tea thing! I put the Il back with the Gesu because that's how English speaking art historians refer to that church. Don't ask me which way the little thing goes on Gesu!

Thank you for understanding about the dates! Time I went to bed! Ciao! --Amandajm 14:51, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Back to the Renaissance!

Oh, I keep getting into trouble from other people for putting in too much about Italy. It seems hard for them to understand that Renaissance architecture actually began in that country!

I will now edit your additions into flowing English and hope that people do not complain! I think that I will have to write a brief summary of Renaissance Architecture in Italy for this page, then remove the more detailed info to another page called

Renaissance architecture in Italy or Italian Renaissance Architecture. Which one is best?

--Amandajm 14:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)Nonna

Certosa is wonderful! I must read the whole page. But for now, the first picture, of the facade is on the wrong side! This is not artistic layout. This building must face inwards. There are two solutions.

• it is possible to use some control to make the table of contents go to the right. But this has some problems.
• perhaps a different picture could be put first. With the beautiful facade put on the left, further down so it looks in.

Can I rearrange this page??

Oh yes! What about Santa Maria della Consolazione, Todi. Is there anything on that one yet?

--Amandajm 15:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi!

I don't think that we ought to extend the discussion of the different regions of Italy any further on that particular page, because it's already very long.

What it needs is for there to be written a brief paragraph on Germany and another paragraph on the Lowlands. I will have a look at my handy Banister Fletcher and I have just found another good book on my shelf which has information about Germany. It also has some very good, well translated writing which I have been enjoying!

I have at last found an old picture of the Laurentian Library. It was all brown and stained so I scanned it and cleaned it up digitally. I'm quite pleased with it now.

When I was first there, many years ago, there were two horrible rude people! The door was open so I walked up the stairs and stood on the landing, looking in. So a man came along and without speaking to me, shut the door straight in my face. So I knocked on the door and a woman opened it, exactly enough to poke her nose and one eyeball through. So I said "I am a student of architectural history. May I please look through the door?" She said "No you cannot!" and pulled her nose out. But then she remembered that she had noticed I had a camera so she stuck her nose through again and said "No fotografia! and pulled her nose in quickly before it got broken.

--Amandajm 15:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Emperors, Popes, and Frangipani

I remember trying to decide whether or not to create an article on Cencius Frangipani a while back, when I had a source right in front of me. Now I'll have to go back to the library. Good work on the emperors (are you planning on doing Henry II and Conrad II? No pressure...). Srnec 16:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Henry II and Conrad II aren't too bad, just in need of some structuring. Srnec 16:56, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks

I was wondering how come a page on the history of Islamic Sicily was not yet created and I was thinking of making one my self. Thanks belong to you; I don't have to do this anymore. Your work on that page is a good work and I hope you would also write on the influence of the Islamic conquests on the culture, economy, and the agriculture of Sicily. I heard that this influence can still be discerned until today. Marwan123 04:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

• My native tongue is Arabic but I reside in Canada. I would be more than glad to offer any assistance to you in interpreting any Arabic texts that you ay encounter. My humble services are to those who contribute to the betterness of the wikipedia. All the best. Marwan123 23:08, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Cencio I Frangipane

Does this sound like the right Cencio Frangipane? I could find nothing in the Dizionario about a 1075 incident against Gregory. I added that info from online sources. Srnec 04:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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The Barnstar of High Culture

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		For your numerous and seemingly unending stream of quality articles. Kylu 05:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

San Marcos

I've finished editting San Marcos! I hope you like it. I can't believe what time it is! i haven' been to bed yet. Good morning!

--Amandajm 17:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Ren Arch

Dear Attilios, thank you for your corretcions! very good. I have made some things more clear. I put back the bit about Cosimo being a banker, because, if you read, you discover that the picture illustrates 3 seperate points!

The Tempio is back also, with more explanation. Thank you for the correction.

Also-

I have put into the Introduction a subheading which may not be correct style but you will see it and observe that it is there for the ning-nongs who don't understand! It says-

Italy was the home of the Renaissance.

Did you like what I did at San Marco's. I'm glad you wrote that article because on the Fra Angelico page someone wanted to link it to St Mark's Venice! People do not bother to check the links, if it goes blue they presume it is alright. How many St Mark's are there in the world? --Amandajm 05:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't you come the raw prawn with me, Mate! You know which Freddi it was ! It was Fearsome Freddi with the missing eye and the bonky nose! Freddi Wotziznaim! That's who it was! --Amandajm 12:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

No! you are perfectly correct! It wasn't Freddi with the schnozzle! That was Freddi from Urbino! And honestly truly, I have drunk no wine! We are not so civilised here as to drink wine with every meal, partly because the alcoholic content of Australian table wine is rather higher than is usual in Europe. Pity. There is nothing to drink in the house except Drambuie and pineapple juice. --Amandajm 12:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Matronaeum

There is a good one at S. Cecilia in Trastevere, Rome. It's an ancient church, quite transformed during the Baroque period. Still has a convent of nuns. --Amandajm 13:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks on Finale Ligure

Thanks for greatly expanding the article on Finale Ligure. When I created the article last year, it was virtually the only English language article devoted to a town in Savona Province, and the Italian page on the town was merely a few paragraphs. Both have certainly come a long way since then. (Absolutadam802 22:47, 14 December 2006 (UTC))

I agree wholehearteadly, as a longtime lover of that area (Varigotti is my beach, I still have a holiday home in nearby Borgio). (User:Basil II 21:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC))

Basilica Palladiana

Hello, I'd like to ask you to revert your edit of the Basilica Palladiana. As it is now it explicitly states it is a Renaissance building, which is untrue. My original text explained that only the outer shell is (Palladian) Renaissance, the structure itself is Gothic. Thanks. Venetian 01:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Certosa di Pavia

Done it. Added a bit here and there. Changed the pic for that nice one from the small cloister, because it was looking out instead of looking in. Other than that, the pics fit the text fairly well. Hope my descriptions are accurate.. Its hard working from photos.

--Amandajm 07:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On 16 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Certosa di Pavia, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Yomangani 01:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar Attilios, much appreciated. FYI, I nominated this article of yours to put on the main page, when we were running low on supply. Please do feel free to self-nominate. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Duchy of Parma

I have made a few changes to the infobox, so it should now work. The problem with the government type is that it only accepts certain things. At the moment, we say that a duchy is simply a monarchy (which is technically correct). It is not possible to display more than one flag, but you can change the "flag" text underneath to say "Flag (1700)", for example. See the template talk page for more information. Thanks. - 52 Pickup 11:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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Basilica of Saint Anthony of Padua

• There needs to be redirects to this page because it doesn't direct if you write Basilica of St. Athony of Padua or Basilica di Sant'Antonio di Padua (Have I got that right??).
• Very Goood! I will tidy it uup a little bit!

• There is a chapel there which is extraordinarily magic, with blue mosaic and golden beams of light. What is the name of that chapel? Do you know the details? I suppose it dates from about 1900.

Sant'Antonio's is a very special place for me. I have written a poem about it. The first time that I was there, I was feelling very miserable, and all a sudden, something like a lttle miracle happened. (It was a remarkable co-incidence but a co-incidence that required a llot of preparation on the part of the people who made it happen.) There was a service in the chapel whhere the Saint is bburied. I was walkingg along the opposite side of the building feeling very depressed when suddenlly a great choir bbegan to sing the Te Deum. They sang it to an English tune, which we always used when I was a child at my tiny wooden parish church in a little village 70k from Sydney. Of all pieces of Church music, this is the one that I have sung, almost every day of my life since I was a child. So I felt as if they were singing it especially for me.

Buuggger this kkeyboard! It dooes doubble letter all the time! I have to edit everything I write several times to fixx it!

--Amandajm 00:50, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Done Sant' Antonio. Chech it out and pleeeese get back and tell me whether you like it. It has more info- a more precise description of the architecture, which you can add to the Italian article.

--Amandajm 10:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Attilios! I haven't sent the poem yet! I also haven't done Donatello yet!

There is a problem with writing large articles about major subjects - every time you turn your back someone removes something important or adds something ridiculous. I keep putting out spot fires. Do you know about spot fires? In this country, every year there are fires in the forest ( which we call "the bush"). They are "Bushfires". Every year around Christmas, there are huge blazes, sometimes with a front of many miles, particularly when they are in mountain ranges which have deep valleys which are almost inaccessible. One of the things that happens is that little pieces of burning leaves and twigs float down and start 'spot fires' here and there. Luckily it has been pouring rain all day, so maybe we will have a fire-free Christmas, at least on the coast. Anyway, I have check some other articles for spot fires. Ciao! --Amandajm 09:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Ascoli Piceno

Utente Attilios Lei è di Roma quindi posso parlarle in italiano.Sono un ragazzo di Ascoli Piceno ed ho aggiunto i nomi dei sindaci che hanno gemnellato Ascoli Piceno con Massy e Treviri.Uno è il sindaco Orlini l'altro è Roberto Allevi.Una di queste persone, Roberto Allevi è un mio zio che si candidò nel 1995 come sindaco della città.Il mio vero nome Francesco Aleandro Allevi.Anche se c'è un vincolo di parentela,non vedo perchè non debba essere citato sull'enciclopedia.Sonoi registrato sulla wikipoedia italiana sotto il nome utente di Fra105 ]

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Giovanni Pauli images

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I removed the image from Focke-Wulf Fw 190 again - displaying the link back to his website is advertising, and there are clearly free alternatives to this image. Please, either discuss the topic with Giovanni Pauli, or accept that the images with advertising aren't desired in the article. ericg ✈ 01:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Giudicati map

Attilios, I have added a map to the Giudicati article. Let me know your thoughts -- I am a bit puzzled about the use of "Calari" and "Cagliari". Are they completely inter-changeable?? As always, I would be happy to make changes. MapMaster 22:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Siege of Cuneo (1691)

Hello Attilios, may I ask what was your source for the siege of Cuneo article. Thanks. Raymond Palmer 23:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

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Greetings, Attilios!

are you having a holiday? I hope you have your camera!

I'm working on Michelangelo a bit and need a translation. Someone has put this in:-

"The Ignudi (singular: ignudo; from the Italian adjective nudo, meaning “naked”) are the 20 athletic, nude male figures ...... Most of the figures are surrounded by a huge garland of oak leaves, and clustered about them are thousands of acorns resembling the penis, or "prickhead", in Tuscan slang (testa di cazzo). The most likely reason for their abundance is that Pope Julius II, who commissioned the work, was of the della Rovere family ("of the Oak"): they function as, perhaps, Michelangelo's allusion to his patron."

What I want to know is this:-

Are these acorns commonly known by the slang "testa di cazzo" or is this an association made by the writer?

My feeling is that, although the acorns do look like penis heads the inclusion of "prickhead" and so on in the article is irrelevant unless either they (or the Pope) was commonly called "testa di cazzo". Actually, I can't imagine anyone referring to Pope Julius II as a dickhead- he would have them dealt with!

--Amandajm 11:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Coast of arms for Italian municipalities

Hi,

Sulla WP:fr lavoro tra l’altro sui comuni italiani. Nell’estate scansa abbiamo migrato tutti i comuni italani verso la WP francesa.

Generalmente, ogni comune italiano aveva una stemma. Ma…sea questa stemma era in fair-use sulla WP:it, sea era in GFDL su Commons.

Prudenti, abbiamo scelto di montrare solo le stemme su Commons ; le altri sono nascoste.

Alcuni giorni fa, ho visto che la stemma di Castelforte era con GFDL sulla WP inglese (la tua immagine). Immediatamente ho meso l’immagine su Commons (forse troppo presto !).

Hum…. C’è un piccolo problema : forse su Commons, l’immagine non è in GFDL, bisogna chiedere a (chi ?) se….

Vorrei avere una risposta «vera» per l’utilizazione delle stemme italiane (un sogno?).

Ho lasciato un messaggio su Commons.

Se potessi mettere alcune frasi (a chi hai chiesto l’autorizzazione, perché e come ?), sarebbe bene. Grazie. Jpm2112 15:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Battle of Garigliano map

I would be happy to make the corrections. I'm wondering whether to try to fix up that map, or start fresh. Give me a week. Sincerely yours, MapMaster 02:46, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Maps in German info box

Just to let you know there have been some developments, and those maps are currently deleted on commons and de-wiki as they are replaced by a generic map where the dot is overlayed from the co-ordinates. There is also a template currently in development {{Infobox German Location}}, which uses the same behavior. See WP:GER for more details. Agathoclea 13:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Rollatini

Hello, today I noticed that there was no article for rollatini, so wrote one. But I wonder if this is a real Italian word or an Italian American pseudo-Italian neologism. I am looking through the Italian cuisine articles and finding them to be not very good, the edit histories showing that we don't really have any Italian people or Italian food experts working here. I found that you live in Italian, and wonder if you could help with this. Thank you, Badagnani 23:52, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:AIV reports

I've removed the same report twice now, like many admins I tend to list the reasons in my edit summary so it can be worth checking there before relisting. Since the user hasn't revandalised since you warned them, you misrepresent the vanadlism one of the 4 items was perhaps sneaky the other 3 bits were not. The user doesn't regularly vandalise so we have no reason to believe it is the same person and blocking. At the moment they've stopped if they start up again in the next few hours feel free to relist them. --pgk 12:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed the second listing of this was not by you, but by someone cut and pasting your original report including your signature. --pgk 12:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

That was me. The original report (with signature) was placed on the AIV talkpage by mistake. Tonywalton  | Talk 12:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

By the way, it's probably not the best idea to dignify that type of vandalism with the word "smart" when giving the vandal a warning - "Ooh, they think I'm smart, let's do it some more", thinks the vandal… The {{verror}} through {{verror4}} templates might be worth considering! Regards, Tonywalton  | Talk 12:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani

Do you think it would be wise to include a category for articles based largely on or sourced largely from the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani? Srnec 14:25, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks for succ box

No problem, when I get back from a meeting tonight, I'll try to do the other boxes. In truth, I shouldn't have marked the predecessor to Alexander Sforza as "none", I knew that it had numerous periods of Papal State rule, but I didn't realise there were actually previous Lords of Pesaro. In fact, researching it there was a Malatesta dynasty of some seven Lords. However, I'm pretty sure that none of them have a Wiki page, so all I can leave is a dead link to the previous Lord. I get my info from here, btw; it's a really useful site. If you can think of how to make a page with little-to-no info except a succ. box to put in it, feel free to make them, or give me some hints. I made some Monarch stubs for Princes of Wallachia a year or so ago, but with so little info they just didn't seem right. Well anyway, I leave it to your more-experienced judgement.

Thanks for posting that, btw. I do odds and ends when it seems sensible, occasionally I work hard on a project when I have the time, but I've never had feedback before. It's always nice to know that people out there are noticing my work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Falastur (talk • contribs) 19:25, 18 January 2007 (UTC).

Can you see this map?

Attilios, User:Srnec has told me that he cannot see the map at Duchy of Amalfi (Italy 1000 AD). Could you go to that page and let me know whether you can see it?? Grazi, MapMaster 01:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Tireless Contributor Barnstar Award

		Tireless Contributor Barnstar Award
		I Hpfan9374, hereby award you with the Tireless Contributor Barnstar Award, for contributing an especially large body of work without sacrificing quality. Hpfan9374 08:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Catholic Encyclopedia

I have been working on straightening out some articles on Saints, and am appalled at the stuff that get copy-pasted from the Catholic Encyclopedia. I noticed that you had a some interaction with the content from this wonderful resource ... I was wondering about a template to put on article that are obviously entirely or mostly cut-paste jobs. I am relatively new here, so I thought I would follow the conversation trail to you and ask: 1) have you seen such a template, or 2) how would I go about getting such a thing created? I simply don't have time to do a re-write for every blatant catholic encyclopedia article I come across. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Pastordavid 09:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Attilios!

Where are you?? I haven't had any communication for ... since Christmas? Are you alive and well? Or on holiday....

You must take a look at Renaissance architecture because there are a whole lot of names of buildings that are just crying out for articles- Palazzi and Churches- It is just what you are so good at.

What a great collection of Barnstars you have!

--Amandajm 00:08, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Attilios!

I will go and look at your articles. I'm glad you did Santa Maria Formosa... I love that church!

You can check out Sistine Chapel ceiling which I have just been working on and also Sistine Chapel - restoration of frescoes. Oh, dear... the more that I compare the before and after photos, the more that I am convinced that the restorers went overboard. They seemed so sure that it was all buon fresco, but I am convinced that Michelangelo came back to it and added shadows, definition, and eyeballs.

Ciao! --Amandajm 15:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Removing information from Roman military personal equipment

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Thirty Years War map

Your suggestion that I create a Thirty Years War map is very intriguing. It is a lot of work -- and I haven't even begun to fix (or re-create) the map for the Battle of Garigliano (1503) yet.  : ) Let me give this some thought. I do certainly love that map. Do you have a reference for that??

Also, were you able to look at the map at Duchy of Amalfi? Can you (your browser) read it?? Let us know on the Talk page there, if you would.

And thank you for your confidence and support, MapMaster 13:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what to do next. I'm tending to think that I would like to continue to do maps of Italy (rather than Germany), perhaps because I am beginning to understand the Italian historical "landscape", and also to provide map consistency within Misplaced Pages, but I am not sure. I would certainly love to see the old maps you have. Given the detail in those maps, I do think that you are correct and that we would need to create sub-maps . Thanks again, MapMaster 18:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I would love to see the map of Italy around the year 1300. That date fits well between my other Italian map dates (1000 AD, 1154 AD, & 1494 AD).

Also, I made the modifications to the Battle of Garigliano (1503) map that you requested. Due to the stub-iness of the article, I decided not to spend the time to re-create the map, but just fiddled with the existing elements. Hope this is OK with you, old friend. MapMaster 04:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorrento

Ciao Attilio, ti scrivo perchè vorrei avere delle spiegazioni in merito alla rimozione avvenuta da parte tua del link Sorrento tourist guide dalla pagina dedicata a Sorrento. Non pensi che si tratti di un sito attinente? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.7.195.141 (talk) 19:20, 24 January 2007 (UTC).

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Hi. I have weighed in there. I must apologize for not answering to your previous query until now: I was trapped in a series of endless debates on two pages I created, and they took all my time on wiki. It looks like the articles have been reviewed by now, and I'll give them an extra look when some of my Romanian detractors will leave me be. For now, it's gotten quite heated on a certain talk page for a Romanian article, where I have been accused of being "pro-communist" (interestingly, an article I had just created was under attack at the very same time for having an "anti-communist bias"); one user is basically asking another how to "get rid of me". This had the gift of reducing time I allocate to other issues, and of making it more likely that I take longer breaks from editing. Dahn 09:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your kind words. Well, the issue is getting quite complicated, but perhaps you can weigh in on the absurd situation I have summarized on Talk:Vladimir Tismăneanu#Facts vs. fiction: the tags and the scandalous reasons behind them (I encourage you to read the article and perhaps look over comments brought up against it). I feel that tags are being used against an NPOV text to introduce POV, based on the fact that the issue is relatively unfamiliar to the average editor, and that allegations against Tismăneanu have mostly been made in Romanian (I have translated some of the most relevant parts of the debate in that section). In case you want to look into it, I thank you in advance. Dahn 11:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Roger Federer

edit this page, can you understand the difference, before making any move?! i hope for you - - - 84.227.175.8 12:00, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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Castel-whatsit

It's quite OK, now...... I fixed it! and I hope you are all satisfied with what grandma has done..... Ciao! --Amandajm 13:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Attilios!

People are going to get very cross! Even me!

• it looks messy!
• it is a wonderful picture that warrants a big space!

You will have to bend a little- either the pic goes back down the page, or the commune box goes completely!

Nonna --Amandajm 14:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I have fixed it! I made a nice little picture for the little space, so you can see the detail, and put the big pic further down. We cannot have a large horizontal picture getting in the way of the text! The layout offended my artistic sensibility! I hope you will be happy now! :) Guess what.... I have a beautiful new granddaughter, so pretty! I cannot wait to see her!... but unfortunately it will be another fortnight. --Amandajm 14:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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Attilios, I need your input on the question of whether the spelling of Bohemond I of Antioch should be "Bohemund" or "Bohemond". Can you please chime in on the talk page?? Also, please look at what is now Logudoro/Torres? I had moved it to Giudicato of Logudoro, but an apparently-avengeful user has reverted all my moves in the past month. I would value your input as an expert in the field. Thanks, MapMaster 03:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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Castelseprio!

Ok! I hope you noticed what I did with the pics! I moved the big one over to the side and made a nice little one just for you! We are now having a little content and clarity dispute.... Oh well! Who do we know in that region who can check the layout? Or do I have to go to Italy an photograph it myself!

--Amandajm 23:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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You are right. In fact I am looking for all occurrences of Ostia and editing articles to ensure that all references to Ostia Antica takes directly to Ostia Antica (archaeological site) and to the modern town to Ostia (town).--Dejudicibus 09:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I cannot find Ostia Antica (modern). Do you mean Ostia Antica (district)?--Dejudicibus 09:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Cosa intendi con non ho pubblicato nulla?--Dejudicibus 09:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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I enjoy this. I recall a paleobiologist who was befuddled by the focus on massive dinosaurs; and indicated he was interested in the whole past, from flora to lesser fauna, studying the entire spectrum. The 1911 Brittanica had as its Renaissance megafauna, Raphael and Michelangelo; it is fun to illuminate what is now lesser known. And to note how later decades and centuries of Italian art were even more diverse and equally probing. Please continue to correct my grammar. CARAVAGGISTI 18:27, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

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Domenico Selvo

Ciao, Attilios. At some point in the last week, I randomly decided to overhaul this entire article that you started. I just wanted to let you know that I'm shooting for Featured Article status and that I've got enough references to do it. Be sure to check back in a week or so or even in a few days when I'll have a few more pictures and much more information regarding the life of this, the 31st Doge. JHMM13 (T | C) 09:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Verrocchio etc

First things first-

• Attilios! You are worse than Nero! You threw me to the lions at Castelseprio! Oh,my goodness! I made myself very unpopular over there!
• I'm glad you like the new Leonardo page! Now I need someone who knows a lot more about Leonardo's inventions etc. to add to it!
• I will take a look at what you have written elsewhere and get back to you, but I hope that it is at least 50 miles from Castelseprio.
• I am quite passionate about Piero della Francesca. Someone made a comment about his faces. Do you know, when I went to Arezzo, I realised that the face of Piero's painting is highly regional. The man that served us at the restaurant was the model for Jesus at the Baptism (in Londodn) or so it seemed.
• Incidentally, the True Cross and the Jesse Tree. Someone had muddled up the two ideas and really made quite a mess at the beginning. People were too polite to say that they were not the same thing. But never mind! I came along and sorted it out and put up the stuff from the Golden Legend. There are people around who only want info if it conforms to their thinking. They delete legendry information as spurious, even if it is clearly labelled "legend"..... anyway, I included some of Piero's pics.

At the Jesse Tree I deleted a lengthy religious discussion that was almost a sermon. I hope the man forgives me, because he has a data base of Jesse Trees and is really enthusiastic. It is hard to impart "style' to some people, as you have discovered.

• Sooo... about my Section references: Maudsley, Kimberly and Mangerton, A Concise History of Pterydactyl Remains in the Upper Megalong and Gross Valleys by the Intuitive Method ISBN 22-66-77-44 etc

The reason for this is that you simply cannot keep everyone happy. Some people want a million inline references which I cannot do because I read and inwardly digest several writers' words of wisdom on the subject and then lump it together. To reference the section is a much more accurate way of citing than just adding the names of ten books at the end of the page. But, if you really insist, I can leave out the words Section reference: (but I'd rather leave them in.

• I'm coming over to your side of the world, in a week's time. So I probably won't be online very much!

Keep up the good work..... and do try to keep out of fights!

Nonna --Amandajm 13:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Indirect Vandalism In The Article On Stephanie Adams

User Sean D Martin has been vandalizing the article on Stephanie Adams, due to a personal problem he has against her, as clearly seen when you google him along with her name. I and a few others have corrected what he vandalized, but ask that he be banned from editing the article on Stephanie Adams.
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In response to the above unsigned comment: User Sean D Martin has not been vandalizing anything. All of the edits made have been specific, minor, resulted in more accurate information and have been accompanied with a clear explanation of why the change was made. None of the edits has insulted Ms Adams or impugned her reputation in any way.

In response anonymous posters have reverted the article back to something less accurate and more self serving. These posts have been accompanied by personal attacks against me. I strongly suspect (and a little research into the IP addresses used supports) that this is Ms Adams using her usual technique of multiple aliases and anonymous posts to attack anyone who says anything not wildly complementary of her.

If anyone actually reads the edits I've made they will see that they are as I've described them. Specific, accurate and neutral. ONly someone with the viewpoint often ascribed to Ms Adams would see these as vandalism. Sean Martin 21:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
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Arezzo

Checked out San Francesco and did a little editting, as usual. Very good! I keep putting too many a s's in Assissi. I'm going to write about Piero's influence on Leonardo in the perspective bit of that nnew page.

--Amandajm 05:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Blinking stupid kkeyboard put in tooo mmany apostrophes and turned it all to italics... --Amandajm 05:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

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René Goscinny cat

Hi, Attilios. No worries, you see, this is what the def.catsort is for. By inserting {{DEFAULTSORT:Goscinny, René}}, all categories receive subsequent category treatment, and life becomes easier. Not long since I discovered it either ;) Cheers, MURGH

Poor Piero!

Dear Attilios, thank you for your faith in me! I need a little time to think. Life goes on... mundane things like buying new school shoes and getting black and red paint of white shirts takes precedence over Donatello, Piero della Francesca and Verrocchio! Meanwhile Giusto de' Menabuoi has escaped notice altogether! And the article on Early Renaissance art needs me desparately!

Nonna, --Amandajm 14:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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Castel-blinking-seprio

It's your baby, Attilios!

Johnbod is also taking an interest in the Jesse Tree page which was set out by a man who has access to a lot of info, but has no understanding of wiki style at all, and is just finding his way around. I no sooner organised the page (demolishing all this man's personal views and research in the process), got back a polite Thank you for your Help! And Guess who appears on that site?...... Oh, dear! it's not that he isn't knowledgeable. The problem is that he is so uncompromising! I hope we don't have another fight over that page! Because the Malcolmlow, who has done all the work and has the information at hand is perfectly accomodating.

Meamwhile, There is this regular battle over Leonardo! One nice long letter demoshing the article for the fact that six commas were missing and two sentences were in a different tense to the previous ones. Another one who decided that one could not say that "Leonardo was generally considered to be one of the greatest artists to ever have lived." This, of course, is a fact. Not that he was the greatest, but that it is the way in which he was/is pperceived. So then I had to find ten quotations to support the sentence.....

Every time I turn my back someone demolishes the article.... and they are nearly always people who mean well! Someone has just reverted an edit that I made, specifically to keep people happy! Oh well! "Back to the mighty conflict" (in the words of an old English Hymn.)

--Amandajm 04:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Happy! Happy! Happy!

Johbod is doing wonderful stuff at the Jesse Tree page and has found two beeyootiful pictures. Malcolm will bbe delighted.. So llet's alll bbee happy! --Amandajm 04:37, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Battleship

My pleasure! If you had a spare moment, could you give it a read and compare it with the Good Article criteria? That's where I'm trying to take it. The Land 10:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Medal template

Hi. It seems that I have overseen the template:MedalTableTop, which is appropiate enough for my medal tables. Sorry for changing the template:MedalTop! However, the latter should be a more general one than a specific one like for Olympics. Anyway, just keep it! I myself better change my templates from MedalTop to MedalTableTop, which is easier. Cheers! CeeGee 14:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Sforza

Upgraded to B class. Mocko13 19:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

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Castelseprio mediation

I have opened your mediation request for Castelseprio. I am just begining to look over the edit histories to get a sense of the conflict, but I would appreciate any additional information you can give me. --Selket 00:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

German Location Infobox

Numbers in the format of x,xxx break all the calculations (ie density). Agathoclea 09:44, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Twinned cities

Please note that you are abusing your popups priviledges, and are likely to be banned from using it. Please note that Scotland is a country, it is not a state. --Mais oui! 11:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

You clearly have not read the instructions at the top of WP:3RR. If you would like some background to this whole dabacle, I advise that you read Talk:Vancouver. And I would like to point out that I was indeed restoring previous versions, because User:Enzedbrit and User:Lofty and various IP sockpuppets have been systematically targetting these articles for many, many months. You are just exacerbating the mess. --Mais oui! 11:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

If anyone was in a "frenzy" this morning, it was you. That was a totally unacceptable use of your popups privileges. You clearly did not have the slightest idea of the background to this massive, Misplaced Pages-wide edit war that has been waged on some articles, over the twin city sections for over a year now. It has to be knocked hard on the head, not exacerbated by 3rd-parties. --Mais oui! 15:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

I am not answerable to you, so just get off your high horse. Your behaviour is in itself far from ideal - eg. you failed to use a single edit summary this morning, and then had the bare-faced cheek to criticise the comprehensiveness of mine. Please look at the facts, not the wild accusations of cowards and banned users who hide behind disposable IP sockpuppet accounts. --Mais oui! 15:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

User:Mais oui! has deleted my message yet again! He is not comfortable with the truth. 81.154.95.26 15:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Mallimak, why do you not just log in and post under your account? What are you trying to hide? It won't work. --Mais oui! 15:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Contribution

Hi. I am writing to you because you seem to be online at the moment and have heaps of discussion on your talk page. Not sure if you're an admin or not but either way you probably know your way around here. I'm trying to access the list of contributions for user JSPugh. Using my normal process for doing this, i.e. copying their username, going to 'my contributions' and then pasting their username at the end instead of mine, i get no results. This can't be the case, because i know for a fact he has edited the article XanGo recently. Any advice? Cheers, THE KING 15:52, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Carrara

I found three articles in the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani for Giacomos: the edler, the younger, and a third one. There was one Uberto (the Younger). There was also a reference to Uberto the Elder, but no article. I don't know what Giacomo you want. I will make the two red links you left on my talk page dab pages and begin creating a page for Ubertinello. It may start out pretty stubby, as I am busy at the moment. Srnec 17:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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Armenia

No, non mi arrabbio, ma avrei comunque un appunto... quando scrivi a qualcuno, ricordati di firmare... poi ho pensato a guardare nella history dell'articolo, ma se firmavi ti trovavo prima. In quanto al conflitto di interessi, posso anche capire, ma resta il fatto che Armenia pubblica quegli autori, tra cui me. Che la cosa l'abbia scritta io o un'altro penso abbia un'importanza relativa dato che un fatto e non una promozione (non ci sono frasi altisonanti o altri elementi discutibili... solo una mera lista). Mi auguro solo che questo precedente non impedisca che un giorno io venga citato comunque in quella lista perché un'altro wikipediano NON collegato a me decida di aggiungermi... D'altra parte uno qui scrive di cose che conosce, per cui i miei articoli riguardano Roma, Ostia, la zona dove abito, i personaggi fabosi che ho conosciuto o altri elementi di cui ho esperienza diretta a causa del mio lavoro (editori, giornalisti, ecc...) Il mio obiettivo è portare nella Misplaced Pages inglese una migliore conoscenza dell'Italia e di sfatare alcuni miti (come gli spaghetti con le meet ball, ad esempio). --Dejudicibus 20:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Palladio

I moved the Palladio picture back to the right after readding the header. Makes more sense with the table of contents there. /Timneu22 21:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Monica

You can see in Talk:Monica Seles that she's a Hungarian-American. She was born in Yugoslavia and played for Yug. until 1994, but her nationality is Hungarian. This region in Serbian is very ethnically diverse. I see that many reverts to Serbian-American, and many change her name in Serbian. I really don't know to to make some administrator to close this article, can you help? --Göran Smith 21:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Controversy is because there is a small mention of Serbia in the article, i know, it's silly. Ok, you can add any sort of protection :) --Göran Smith 22:01, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

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I'm not certain who you think I am, but this would be the first warning I have received and I have certainly never edited the John Byrne page prior to today. Either way, the proper way to warn someone about their behavior is not to call them a jerk. Thank you. 71.232.25.117 00:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Uh, I would call that my FIRST warning, as I just said above. Not the FOURTH warning, as you seem to indicate in the edit notes. Perhaps that image of John Byrne's head could also be used for you? It would appear that the Leaping To Conclusions cluster of your cerebrum is enlarged and inflamed! :( 71.232.25.117 11:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Dominic Savio

Dear Attilios, Greetings! I am the "jerk" who did most of the work on the Dominic Savio article. :-) I admit you are several times more experienced than I on Misplaced Pages, and I bow to your experience here. I had been labouring under the delusion that I had been neutral while writing the article. From your comments, I gather I have failed. I would be grateful if you gave me a few suggestions on improving the article. Thank you.

Yours faithfully,

Savio mit electronics 12:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

As I said, I'd love it if you could please indicate to me instances of the POV and the Pietism, so that I can change them. I did a major rewrite of the article, since it had previously been tagged with "expert" and "accuracy dispute" tags. You can see the previous version of the article here. Though I was named after him, (long story, don't think you'd be interested), I was fairly sure I had been neutral on the article. (It took me three entire days to do it, making sure that I was neutral.) I don't see how I can avoid "Catholic language" on the article, since Dominic Savio's only claim to notability stems from the fact that he was a "Good Catholic", and that he was "pious". Now, should I downplay that in the article? If he had a habit of praying before the Eucharist daily, for instance, am I to say that he didn't? Or am I to leave it out? Or am I to avoid words like "Eucharist", "Prayer", "Mass", "Priest", "Sodality" etc, since non-Catholics might also be reading the article? If sports terminology were used in an article on a sportsperson, or political terminology in an article on a politician, wouldn't that also be, by your definition, a form of "POVism" and "Pietism"? After all, people other than sportspersons or politicians are also expected to read those articles. I thought the meaning of NOPV was that all points of view are to be represented with due weightage, fairly, proportionately and without bias. Regarding proportion, in Dominic Savio's case, the only Point of View he is worth viewing from is the Catholic Point of View. From any other viewpoint, he is a nobody. From any other point of view, there is nothing to write about him. I have been fair to the subject. There is nothing negative about the subject in the article because there are no stories in circulation that cast him in a bad light. There are no alleged scandals revolving around his life, for instance. None of his friends have been recorded to make a statement saying "Dominic was not all that pious." or anything of that sort. I am sure I have been unbiased on the article. For instance, you will notice that I have never once made statements about Dominic Savio on my own, (e.g: "Dominic Savio was a famous/great/popular/pious saint.", or "He is one of the greatest Catholic Saints of the nineteenth century" ) and I have only reported what others (St. John Bosco, various Popes, Dominic's friends) had to say about him.

Perhaps I should stay away from the article, and let someone else do the cleanup, since the subject is too close to my heart......

Yours respectfully,

Savio mit electronics 12:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

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Children of Men edits

I thought I would point out that you removed the Sir from Michael Caine. He is in fact a knight of the realm. It is his title, more so than someone would be called Doctor, or Reverend.Arcayne 01:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, but you put them on my user page, instead of my Talk Page. I removed them, but I understand your point.Arcayne 10:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

5-1 Volleyball Formation

Hi Attilios, I'm wondering why you undid the edit on 5-1 formation in Volleyball ()? It looked valid, and seems to me, informative. I put it back for now, but maybe you had a good reason for removing it. Thanks, Icemuon 13:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. But I didn't write it, only put it back :-) Best regards, Icemuon 14:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Italian swimmers

Ciao Attilios, thanks for your comments. Much appreciated. I'm going to add some other swimmers, so it's better to be corrected in this early stage.. let me know if you find something wrong in my work. Marra 17:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

You are definitely right about those see alsos -actually it's just cut&paste from what links here, it was to avoid someone tag articles for speedy deletion as already happened for a too short and simple stub.
About <br>, not the same behavior of leaving a blank line, IMHO.
By the way let me ask one stuff, do you think the photo you used in Lamberti's article is tagged in the right way? I mean about copyright issues and so on? there are loads of pics on raisport website but I'm not sure about the right way to do this.. Marra 22:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

AMAZING wikification :) Marra 22:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Tranqui non ti prendo per rompipalle, non ti preoccupare! in effetti ci ho pensato pure io se non fosse troppo.. riconosco siano manifestazioni di secondo piano rispetto a mondiali e europei ma alla fine non sono proprio la coppa del nonno.. boh..
Un policy potrebbe essere di tenere conto di queste manifestazioni nel medagliere se non lo appesantiscono troppo e -di conseguenza- se sono rappresentative del livello raggiunto dall'atleta. Ad esempio mettere tutte le 50+ medaglie di rosolino ti do ragione che non ci sta molto!
Tu che faresti? semplicemente non terresti conto sotto gli europei? ciao e grazie Marra 10:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Ho visto solo ora che hai sistemato un sacco di nuotatori.. ottimo lavoro! ora per qualche giorno mi sa che devo wiki-disintossicarmi un'attimo.
Faro' tesoro del tuo consiglio e cercherò di abbandonare il mio amato <br>.. Dai per il medagliere ci sto a fare cosi, però allora aggiungerei nel corpo dell'articolo una subsection tipo Other achievements e farei una tabellina. che dici?
In caso affermativo, se ci metti le mani per favore non cancellare le medaglie ma commentale solo..
Io sono un buon agonista mancato -mancato di molto- avendo iniziato agonismo molto tardi.. non so i miei punti, mi informerò :) ciaociao! Marra 10:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Double redirects

Just wanted to say thanks for cleaning up some of those sloppy double redirects that I left behind yesterday. I went back to clean them up and saw you'd taken care of them. Much appreciated! Planetneutral 03:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Rosetta barnstar

		The Rosetta Barnstar
		For translation efforts, and for the spreading of Italian culture Jollyroger 08:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I was referring to the History of Italian Railways, and some of other old railway-related topics ;-) --Jollyroger 17:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

rvv?

Hello. I'm not objecting to this edit, but I am confused. Can you please explain your edit summary as regards this edit? --After Midnight 00:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt response. I think I should have asked a bit more clearly.... The edit summary that you used on the edit was "rvv", which I believe stands for "reverting vandalism". Since I didn't see any vandalism, I was confused. It is also possible that you were using "rvv" in a different context or as a different abbreviation. Can you please clarify? By the way, the standard abbreviations for edit summaries can be found here. Best regards and happy editing. --After Midnight 00:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Tiepolo and others

I don't especially object to referring to Tiepolo initially as Italian rather than Venetian, but you have now left no reference to Venice in the lead para, which is wrong for such a distinctively Venetian artist.

By the way when you set up a page move request you are supposed to put a tag on the talk page & use their templates for a survey there. You have not done this for Palazzo del Te. The instructions are on the RfM page. Please do this. Johnbod 13:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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Altichiero

Ciao Attilios! I have a quick question for you. Back in December, you moved Altichiero to Altichiero da Zevio. The reason you cited was "more used spelling." I'm wondering what evidence you used to draw that conclusion. When I'm looking at predominant usage, my first point of reference is the Getty Index, which I think is very reliable and authoritative. They list the preferred name as Altichiero and list Altichiero da Zevio as an alternative. I'm interested in what evidence had you going in the opposite direction.

Toward getting a better understanding of what the best strategy is for determining most common name, I started a discussion thread on the topic. Your thoughts are welcome. Cheers. Planetneutral 01:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Italian-Germans

Such categories also stress ethnicity, not only a nationality. By the way, is there any field concerning nationality/ethnicity in Italian Census? I doesn't know situation in that region perfectly but I had one friend there, and he told me German-speaking locals don't consider themselves as Italians. Such people should be certainly added to some category which would group them together. - Darwinek 16:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Ciao! :) It is also a possible way to go, both the new category and the existing one. I still would like to know how majority of these people consider themselves. Maybe inclusion to Austrian Italians category would be much better? - Darwinek 20:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

OK. I will create that category. You can then help me with populating it. - Darwinek 21:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Anyone for Te?

Attilios, I'm not Italian. I must be guided in this matter by those who know better. If you think that this is the right way to go, then I support it.

--Amandajm 23:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Ranuccio

I'm sorry, I've got nothing that I know of with those dates in it on hand. By the way, about the Carraresi, I've been too busy to get to those articles, but I will get to them soon, if not this week, then certainly the next. Also, I think there is some confusion in the sources I've used between Galvano and Jordan Lancia and I want to write an article on the former. If you have any information to untangle the two, I'd be happy to see it. Thanks and good work. Srnec 19:44, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

re: John Buscema

Just a heads up here, there's an RfC running on the articles talk page at the moment. Part of what it covers is the material you edited.

Feel free to add comments to the RfC discussion, but leave the article as it was when the RfC was called, please. Once a consensus is reached, the necessary culling, condensing, copy editing, and clean up can be done.

Thanks... — J Greb 10:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Complimenti per tutti i tuoi contributi, in particolare Cervia, hai tradotto bene ciò che ho scritto su it.wiki! =) --User:Helios89/Firma 20:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Sai che proprio ieri ci pensavo? Che forse sarebbe meglio concentrarci tutti di qua? Tanto come hai giustamente fatto notare tu, ormai l'inglese lo sanno più o meno tutti (io sono solo un 17enne eh ;) ) quindi forse è meglio concentrarsi a fare una cosa fatta bene che tante fatte male. Anche perché en.wiki è enormemente più grande e ha già risolto molti problemi che si stanno vivendo sulla[REDACTED] italiana, nella quale secondo me vige un po' il regime del legittimo sospetto. Speriamo che le cose si risolvano e purtroppo io sono più bravo a tradurre dall'inglese all'italiano ma non escludo che mi trasferisca di qua se per caso mi stufo della gente di là. Ah e sono convinto che fondere mitologia che curo con questa di qua ne guadagnerebbero tutti.

Per mia esperienza personale, io scrivo di là, ma se ho bisogno di info non c'è alternativa spesso a venire di qua in english :) --User:Helios89/Firma 13:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your comment 'Skelarke stuff was Wiki-horrendous' - kindly refrain from personal attacks and negative criticism.

--Skyelarke 23:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)