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	:::: As it stands, I still have my preferences. Are there any changes that would make my preference more palatable to you, like adding some template to make draft status clear, or are you likely to persist in your preference that I not use my user page in this way? ] (]) 20:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)		:::: As it stands, I still have my preferences. Are there any changes that would make my preference more palatable to you, like adding some template to make draft status clear, or are you likely to persist in your preference that I not use my user page in this way? ] (]) 20:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
	:::::I would recommend working in subpages or the draftspace. Policy states that user pages are to contain information in relation to the editor, pretty much any other use is open to speedy deletion under U5 (although sometimes admins will instead move the content to the draftspace instead). ] (]) 20:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)		:::::I would recommend working in subpages or the draftspace. Policy states that user pages are to contain information in relation to the editor, pretty much any other use is open to speedy deletion under U5 (although sometimes admins will instead move the content to the draftspace instead). ] (]) 20:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Freelance-frank

Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. A tag has been placed on User:Freelance-frank requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Misplaced Pages's goals. Please note that Misplaced Pages is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

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I'm sorry, but I or another admin have deleted content from your user space, User:Freelance-frank .

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@UtherSRG I don't think the U5 speedy criteria applies. That material was related to the ADL page, which I have contributed to extensively. In particular, that material was some content which was previously rightfully removed as UNDUE, but which I intended to workshop into something more reasonable for inclusion. Would you please replace the removed content or further explain how this criteria applies? Thanks. Freelance-frank (talk) 16:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I have that ADL-related material elsewhere. It must have been some other subject I was writing about. Regardless, I'd find it useful to have my userpage available to finish working on. Freelance-frank (talk) 16:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Please read the links in the info box above. User pages are not intended as workspaces. Use your sandbox or the draft namespace for that. You were working on an article about "Sumner Humphrey Ireland". Would you like me to draftify that? UtherSRG (talk) 16:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@UtherSRG Are you sure that is so? I don't see my use disallowed. Could you point out where I should see that? In fact, WP:UPYES seems to suggest that use as "Work in progress or material that you may come back to in future" is explicitly allowed. Am I misunderstanding anything here?

I'd prefer to have that material where it was originally, but put it in draftspace if that is not allowed. Freelance-frank (talk) 16:57, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

As UPYES states, such material should be on a subpage (such as a sandbox or a space likeUser:Freelance-frank/Sumner Humphrey Ireland). The userpage guidelines state that a userpage is not to be used for storing drafts and should not look like an article. GPL93 (talk) 17:20, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@UtherSRG I'm not seeing that language. Could you point out the relevant subsection? Freelance-frank (talk) 17:28, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

WP:FAKEARTICLE looks mostly-relevant, but it includes the language "indefinitely". Freelance-frank (talk) 17:33, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@UtherSRG Oh, you reference UPYES. But that doesn't seem to require this either. See "usually". I'd prefer to do what I'm comfortable with if possible, which is why I'm perseverating over this. I'm just not seeing the strict requirement you seem to suggest. Freelance-frank (talk) 18:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Frank - GPL93 is the one who tagged the page. And I don't think I referenced UPYES. You two work it out. Ping me when you do if you then need my assistance. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:52, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your help, @UtherSRG. Since you offered to undelete my draft to some other space, I'd appreciate if you'd do so and then I'll get out of your alerts unless something comes up. Freelance-frank (talk) 19:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Now located here: Draft:Sumner Humphrey Ireland. Enjoy! - UtherSRG (talk) 20:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

So "Usually" has generally been interpreted as "in most cases" and deletion under WP:U5 is a very common outcome for drafts stored on user pages. The user page should contain information in relation to you as an editor and not to host drafts, articles, writings, CVs, etc. Correct places to store and work on drafts are the sandbox, a sub page or sub-sandbox, or as a draft (either created via WP:AFC or directly by starting at Draft:"Name"). GPL93 (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@GPL93 Interesting. If that is essentially a rule, then maybe it should be more clearly stated.

As it stands, I still have my preferences. Are there any changes that would make my preference more palatable to you, like adding some template to make draft status clear, or are you likely to persist in your preference that I not use my user page in this way? Freelance-frank (talk) 20:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

I would recommend working in subpages or the draftspace. Policy states that user pages are to contain information in relation to the editor, pretty much any other use is open to speedy deletion under U5 (although sometimes admins will instead move the content to the draftspace instead). GPL93 (talk) 20:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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