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:'''Nominator's rationale''': It only makes sense to replace city with populated place as "city" is not representative of the categories within. And it's counterintuitive to make an additional tree for towns/townships as well since it would worsen navigation. This also allows for existing split trees to be merged into a common branch to improve navigation. Lastly, it aligns the cats with the parent ]. –] (]) 04:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC) | :'''Nominator's rationale''': It only makes sense to replace city with populated place as "city" is not representative of the categories within. And it's counterintuitive to make an additional tree for towns/townships as well since it would worsen navigation. This also allows for existing split trees to be merged into a common branch to improve navigation. Lastly, it aligns the cats with the parent ]. –] (]) 04:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
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*'''Support''' — community consistency. (Pining for the days there were many eyes on categories.)<br />] (]) 09:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC) | *'''Support''' — community consistency. (Pining for the days there were many eyes on categories.)<br />] (]) 09:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
⚫ | *'''Comment''' – Isn't there a concern that users would assume "populated place" to mean ''any'' populated place, e.g. counties, provinces, states, etc.? ]<sup>]</sup> 18:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC) |
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January 15
Category:Byproducts
- Propose renaming Category:Byproducts to Category:By-products
- Nominator's rationale: To the extent that there is any need for this cat, it should be spelled with the hyphen, which is by far the more common spelling.
See this Ngram search, or do Google searches on the two spellings. Eric 22:55, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I won't argue with the conclusion, but Ngram viewer doesn't work well with hyphenated words, and the results it is giving aren't correct. Ike9898 (talk) 23:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I ran into that issue at first, but ended up learning a new Ngram trick when a sort-of error page came up that prompted me to wrap the term in parentheses (as opposed to quotation marks) to have the term be treated as a "composition". Eric 02:58, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- I won't argue with the conclusion, but Ngram viewer doesn't work well with hyphenated words, and the results it is giving aren't correct. Ike9898 (talk) 23:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- As creator of the category, support. The category is useful; by-products have a distinct set of characteristics and issues. Ike9898 (talk) 23:13, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:British expatriates in Guernsey
- Nominator's rationale: Having checked Crown Dependencies, seems this is invalid, UK citizens and Crown dependency citizens can move freely Crowsus (talk) 21:31, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. It is also at odds with the fact that Category:Guernsey expatriates is a subcategory of Category:British expatriates. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:00, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Ludum Dare video games
- Propose renaming Category:Ludum Dare video games to Category:Video games that originated from Ludum Dare
- Nominator's rationale: The current title is a bit misleading, as almost none of those games have their current versions as part of Ludum Dare or are primarily notable for being on it. Rather, they merely originated from it at some point in their early history. Zerbu 09:11, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Listify and Delete — cumbersome name, and we don't usually categorize by event or venue. Better an annotated referenced list in the Ludum Dare article.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:25, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 20:48, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Listify and delete per WP:OCASSOC. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Buildings and structures in Alpine, Utah
- Nominator's rationale: Small city (~10,000) with just 3 pages. Upmerge as above. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:24, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:12, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Marwanid dynasty
- Propose merging Category:Marwanid dynasty to Category:Kurdish dynasties, Category:Sunni dynasties and Category:Medieval Upper Mesopotamia
- Propose deleting Category:People under the Marwanid dynasty
- Propose deleting Category:Scholars under the Marwanid dynasty
- Nominator's rationale: merge/delete, only two articles in three categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:00, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Education in World War II
- Propose merging Category:Education in World War II to Category:1940s in education
- Nominator's rationale: soft merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. By all means re-establish the category when more content about this topic is available. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:21, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. --Bduke (talk) 02:22, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Education by sector
- Propose merging Category:Education by sector to Category:Education
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. --Bduke (talk) 02:24, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Asian sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
- Propose deleting Category:Asian sportspeople by ethnic or national origin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Asian sportspeople of Asian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Asian sportspeople of Chinese descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Middle Eastern sportspeople of Asian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Filipino sportspeople of Asian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Indonesian sportspeople of Asian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Japanese sportspeople of Asian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Turkish sportspeople of Asian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Russian sportspeople of Asian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Asian sportspeople of European descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Asian sportspeople of Asian descent (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Asian sportspeople by ethnic or national origin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT recent proliferation of tiny categories with unusual and irrelevant hierarchical organization. Misplaced Pages:Category naming does not provide for by region encapsulating by country.
- Summary: Convoluted tree, entangled with others, very few articles. Redundantly, Asians are of Asian descent. Surprisingly, Chinese are sometimes Asian or East Asian. There's no rhyme nor reason for this tree.
- Same progenitor as:
- Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 3#Category:American sportspeople of European descent
- Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 11#Category:American sportspeople of Asian descent
- Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12#Category:North American sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
- Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 12#Category:Latin American sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
- Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 13#Category:South American sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
- Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 14#Category:African sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
- Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 14#Category:Middle Eastern sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
- Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 14#Category:Oceanian sportspeople by ethnic or national origin
- Delete with all other categories nominated before. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete looks like categorization by “race.” —Michael Z. 17:07, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Scholars from the Ottoman Empire
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:48, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support — another in a long chain of prior decisions.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 10:44, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
1789 United States presidential election
- Propose renaming
- Category:1789 United States presidential election to Category:1788–1789 United States presidential election
- Category:1789 United States presidential election by state to Category:1788–1789 United States presidential election by state
- Category:Candidates in the 1789 United States presidential election to Category:Candidates in the 1788–1789 United States presidential election
- Nominator's rationale: procedural nomination, an earlier speedy rename request was declined. The main article was only recently moved and without discussion, and therefore C2D doesn’t apply. If the discussion here does not lead to renaming the category then the article move should be reverted. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- @1857a and Armbrust: pinging contributors to earlier speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:States by power status
- Propose merging Category:States by power status to Category:Countries by status
- Nominator's rationale: merge, with many of these statuses it is arguable whether it concerns power status. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support — about half are power, the rest are merely definitions and history. Helps remove the country/state distinction. as these are all under Category:Countries.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:07, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Misplaced Pages Trading card game members
- Nominator's rationale: This may have served a purpose when it was created in 2009, but since Misplaced Pages:Trading card game has been inactive since circa 2011 it is now pointless. What's happening there is random fooling around that is close to the antithesis of what user categories should be for. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:51, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. VegaDark (talk) 04:25, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This short-term WikiProject was a good-faith attempt to create a piece of merchandise for revenue and publicity at a time when both were in shorter supply than now. Theoretically, the participants might collaborate again in future but we, Misplaced Pages and the world of games have changed over the past 14 years. Certes (talk) 13:23, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Category:Buildings and structures in the United States by state and city
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in the United States by state and city to Category:Buildings and structures in the United States by state and populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Alabama by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Alabama by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Alaska by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Alaska by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Arizona by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Arizona by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Arkansas by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Arkansas by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in California by city to Category:Buildings and structures in California by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Colorado by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Colorado by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Connecticut by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Connecticut by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Delaware by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Delaware by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Florida by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Florida by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Georgia (U.S. state) by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Georgia (U.S. state) by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Hawaii by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Hawaii by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Idaho by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Idaho by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Illinois by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Illinois by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Indiana by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Indiana by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Iowa by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Iowa by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Kansas by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Kansas by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Kentucky by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Kentucky by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Louisiana by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Louisiana by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Maine by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Maine by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Maryland by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Maryland by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Massachusetts by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Massachusetts by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Michigan by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Michigan by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Minnesota by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Minnesota by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Mississippi by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Mississippi by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Missouri by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Missouri by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Montana by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Montana by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Nebraska by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Nebraska by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Nevada by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Nevada by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in New Hampshire by city to Category:Buildings and structures in New Hampshire by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in New Jersey by city to Category:Buildings and structures in New Jersey by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in New Mexico by city to Category:Buildings and structures in New Mexico by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in New York (state) by city to Category:Buildings and structures in New York (state) by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in North Carolina by city to Category:Buildings and structures in North Carolina by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in North Dakota by city to Category:Buildings and structures in North Dakota by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Ohio by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Ohio by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Oklahoma by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Oklahoma by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Oregon by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Oregon by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Pennsylvania by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Pennsylvania by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Rhode Island by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Rhode Island by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in South Carolina by city to Category:Buildings and structures in South Carolina by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in South Dakota by city to Category:Buildings and structures in South Dakota by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Tennessee by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Tennessee by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Texas by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Texas by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Utah by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Utah by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Vermont by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Vermont by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Virginia by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Virginia by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Washington (state) by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Washington (state) by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in West Virginia by city to Category:Buildings and structures in West Virginia by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Wisconsin by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Wyoming by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Wyoming by city to Category:Buildings and structures in Wyoming by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Connecticut by community to Category:Buildings and structures in Connecticut by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Massachusetts by town to Category:Buildings and structures in Massachusetts by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in New Hampshire by community to Category:Buildings and structures in New Hampshire by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Rhode Island by community to Category:Buildings and structures in Rhode Island by populated place
- Propose renaming Category:Buildings and structures in Vermont by town to Category:Buildings and structures in Vermont by populated place
- Relevant history:
- Category:Buildings and structures in the United States by city was renamed to Category:Buildings and structures in the United States by settlement in January 2010.
- Category:Settlements was renamed to Category:Populated places (which in turn renamed the category above as well) in April 2010.
- Nominator's rationale: It only makes sense to replace city with populated place as "city" is not representative of the categories within. And it's counterintuitive to make an additional tree for towns/townships as well since it would worsen navigation. This also allows for existing split trees to be merged into a common branch to improve navigation. Lastly, it aligns the cats with the parent Category:Buildings and structures in the United States by populated place. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:39, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support — community consistency. (Pining for the days there were many eyes on categories.)
William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:16, 15 January 2023 (UTC) - Comment – Isn't there a concern that users would assume "populated place" to mean any populated place, e.g. counties, provinces, states, etc.? DB1729 18:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)