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Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Penal canon law to Category:Catholic penal canon law – C2A: Due to the content, it was obviously meant only for Catholicism. The user (CanonLawJunkie) has also created other categories which had the same problem and were later renamed the same way (e.g. Category:Catholic matrimonial canon law, Category:Catholic liturgical law). Veverve (talk) 22:07, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Album covers by Roger Dean to Category:Album covers by Roger Dean (artist) – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 19:29, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Album covers by Vartan to Category:Album covers by Vartan (art director) – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 19:28, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Book cover images by artist to Category:Book covers by artist – C2C: None of the sub-categories in Category:Covers by artist use "images". Gonnym (talk) 19:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Comics covers by Curt Swan to Category:Comic book covers by Curt Swan – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 19:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Comics covers by George Pérez to Category:Comic book covers by George Pérez – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 19:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Comics covers by Jack Kirby to Category:Comic book covers by Jack Kirby – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 19:24, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Comics covers by Steve Ditko to Category:Comic book covers by Steve Ditko – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 19:24, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Comics covers by John Byrne to Category:Comic book covers by John Byrne (comics) – C2C: also C2D. Gonnym (talk) 19:24, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Comics covers by John Buscema to Category:Comic book covers by John Buscema – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 19:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Comics covers by Neal Adams to Category:Comic book covers by Neal Adams – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 19:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Private and independent school organisations in the United Kingdom to Category:Private school organisations in the United Kingdom – C2C with Category:Private school organisations in England, Category:Private education in the United Kingdom, Category:Private schools in the United Kingdom – Fayenatic London 15:24, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People of former British colonies and protectorates to Category:People from former British colonies and protectorates – C2B following Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_September_4#Category:People_of_the_Russian_Empire. However, I acknowledge that some editors might prefer the format "British India people" for the colony-specific subcats, in which case those could be taken to a full CFD, unless C2C would justify those names. I have raised that option at Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_February_21#Category:People_of_the_Danish_West_Indies. – Fayenatic London 13:48, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People of former British colonies and protectorates in Africa to Category:People from former British colonies and protectorates in Africa
- Category:People of colonial Nigeria to Category:People from colonial Nigeria
- Category:People of former British colonies and protectorates in the Americas to Category:People from former British colonies and protectorates in the Americas
- Category:Planters of the British West Indies to Category:Planters from the British West Indies
- Category:People of former British colonies and protectorates in Asia to Category:People from former British colonies and protectorates in Asia
- Category:People of British Borneo to Category:People from British Borneo
- Category:People of British Burma to Category:People from British Burma
- Category:People of British Ceylon to Category:People from British Ceylon
- Category:People of British Hong Kong to Category:People from British Hong Kong
- Category:People of British India to Category:People from British India
- Category:People of British Malaya to Category:People from British Malaya
- Category:People of British Singapore to Category:People from British Singapore
- Category:People of former British colonies and protectorates in Europe to Category:People from former British colonies and protectorates in Europe
- Category:People of former British colonies and protectorates in Oceania to Category:People from former British colonies and protectorates in Oceania
- Category:Odessa High School alumni to Category:Odessa High School (Texas) alumni – C2B: per Odessa High School (Texas). Armbrust 08:38, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Odessa National Polytechnic University alumni to Category:Odesa National Polytechnic University alumni – C2D Odesa National Polytechnic University ITZQing (talk) 05:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Odessa Film Studio to Category:Odesa Film Studio – C2D Odesa Film Studio ITZQing (talk) 05:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Brexit Party to Category:Reform UK – C2D: per Reform UK. Armbrust 04:20, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Brexit Party politicians to Category:Reform UK politicians
Category:Brexit Party MEPs to Category:Reform UK MEPs- Category:Brexit Party parliamentary candidates to Category:Reform UK parliamentary candidates
- Category:Brexit Party members of the Senedd to Category:Reform UK members of the Senedd
- Oppose MEPs The change from Brexit to RefUK came after the UK left. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:51, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough, withdrawn. Armbrust 12:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose MEPs The change from Brexit to RefUK came after the UK left. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:51, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cemeteries in Odessa to Category:Cemeteries in Odesa – C2D Odesa ITZQing (talk) 04:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:BC Odessa players to Category:BC Odesa players – C2D BC Odesa ITZQing (talk) 04:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:SC Odessa players to Category:SC Odesa players – C2D SC Odesa ITZQing (talk) 03:54, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Odessa Film Studio films to Category:Odesa Film Studio films – C2D Odesa Film Studio ITZQing (talk) 03:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Kurt dynasty to Category:Kart dynasty – C2D: per Kart dynasty. 1857a (talk) 00:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Austin Peay Governors and Lady Govs navigational boxes to Category:Austin Peay Governors navigational boxes – as below – Fayenatic London 22:28, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Austin Peay Governors and Lady Govs coaches to Category:Austin Peay Governors coaches – C2C per Category:Austin Peay Governors fuzzy510 (talk) 15:35, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Austin Peay Governors and Lady Govs athletic directors to Category:Austin Peay Governors athletic directors – C2C per Category:Austin Peay Governors fuzzy510 (talk) 15:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Austin Peay Governors and Lady Govs athletes to Category:Austin Peay Governors athletes – C2C per Category:Austin Peay Governors fuzzy510 (talk) 15:32, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Assassinated politicians in UN Central America to Category:Assassinated politicians in Central America – C2C: per Category:Central America. Adding "UN" does not make sense. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Per the discussion in the thread about Category:Assassinated politicians in North America, I propose instead Category:Assassinated Central American politicians. Thinker78 (talk) 05:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- That makes perfect sense when you look at the subcategories. However I am not entirely sure if it can be speedied this way. User:Armbrust, what do you think? Marcocapelle (talk) 22:23, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:SKA Odessa players to Category:SKA Odesa players – C2D FC SKA Odesa ITZQing (talk) 05:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:SKA Odessa to Category:SKA Odesa – C2D FC SKA Odesa ITZQing (talk) 05:24, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- C2D isn’t applicable to the above two (as the cited page isn’t the main article of the category and SKA Odesa is a redirect), but C2A is. Regards, Armbrust 04:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you for your help. ITZQing (talk) 10:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- C2D isn’t applicable to the above two (as the cited page isn’t the main article of the category and SKA Odesa is a redirect), but C2A is. Regards, Armbrust 04:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Odessa National Economics University alumni to Category:Odesa National Economics University alumni – C2D Odesa National Economics University ITZQing (talk) 04:43, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Odessa National Economics University to Category:Odesa National Economics University – C2D Odesa National Economics University ITZQing (talk) 04:43, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Naval special forces units to Category:Naval special forces units and formations - C2C - in line with Category:Military units and formations Buckshot06 (talk) 00:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- I have only tagged the category now.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:34, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:BasquePelota navigational boxes to Category:Basque pelota navigational boxes – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 21:23, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Snecma aircraft engines to Category:Safran aircraft engines – C2D: To match the rename of Snecma to Safran in 2016. Taavi (talk!) 20:25, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is Safran Aircraft Engines and not Safran. Armbrust 21:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Armbrust Hi, not sure what your concern here is? Are you saying that the new name should be capitalized like "Safran Aircraft Engines"? Similar categories, such as Category:General Electric aircraft engines or Category:Pratt & Whitney aircraft engines have "aircraft engines" all lowercase. Taavi (talk!) 13:21, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is Safran Aircraft Engines and not Safran. Armbrust 21:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Video game items to Category:Video game objects – C2C: Per Category:Fictional objects by type. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Oppose The main article of the category is Item (game terminology).Armbrust 13:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)- @Armbrust: The parent categories obviously include objects, not just items. Maybe you'd be satisfied with a parent category for objects? ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Right, this can be split manually to a new parent. Probably worth a full CFD to rename the existing one less ambiguously, though. – Fayenatic London 15:41, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: On the other hand, this category was created in 2005 for objects (the original member has since been merged and redirected). The "cat main" and the link to item (gaming) were only added by Wumbolo (talk · contribs) in 2018 (since blocked), and do not correspond to the contents. Only 3 articles and 2 redirects fit that meaning, which is barely enough to justify a category. I suggest we revert the main article link, and allow the rename as nominated. – Fayenatic London 22:03, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Armbrust 15:15, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: The parent categories obviously include objects, not just items. Maybe you'd be satisfied with a parent category for objects? ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Relisted after withdrawn opposition. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:12, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Montreal Impact U23 players to Category:CF Montréal U23 players – C2D: Parent article is CF Montréal U23. RedPatch (talk) 13:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- The article was only recently renamed and without discussion. Oppose speedy until a reliable source is provided about the recent name change. Regards, Armbrust 04:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Church of England independent schools to Category:Church of England private schools – C2C, consistent with parent Category:Private schools in the United Kingdom. Same applies to below 208 requests. Vpab15 (talk) 16:49, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Independent schools in Bedfordshire to Category:Private schools in Bedfordshire
- Category:Independent schools in Merseyside to Category:Private schools in Merseyside
- Category:Independent schools in South Yorkshire to Category:Private schools in South Yorkshire
- Category:Independent schools in Tyne and Wear to Category:Private schools in Tyne and Wear
- Category:Independent schools in the West Midlands (county) to Category:Private schools in the West Midlands (county)
- The above six categories were deleted by Liz, with the rationale that they were speedily renamed, but none of the targets exist. Armbrust 15:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Someone's been emptying the categories and it's hard to track who or which articles were affected. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- The contents had already been moved to the target names. I restored and moved the category pages. I caught three similar ones before deletion but did not see that these were affected in the same way. I also restored and moved Category:Private schools in Yorkshire. – Fayenatic London 15:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Someone's been emptying the categories and it's hard to track who or which articles were affected. Timrollpickering (talk) 10:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- The above six categories were deleted by Liz, with the rationale that they were speedily renamed, but none of the targets exist. Armbrust 15:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Music videos directed by Sanji to Category:Music videos directed by Sanji (director) – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 13:13, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sanji is a disambiguation page where the others couldn't be directors of music videos. There are other similarly named categories in Category:Music videos by director (the exceptions seem to be where something else is a primary topic or could be confused with the director) so could this be a naming convention for categories there? Peter James (talk) 09:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- A title should match the article. In this case the articleis Sanji (director). If there are other incorrectly titled categories there they should also be moved. Gonnym (talk) 11:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- A few years ago, I tried arguing cases where disambiguators were unnecessary in category names. A few sets like this were taken to full discussions, and each time there was a clear consensus to match the full name of the lead article. The only exceptions are for visual artists, as documented at Misplaced Pages:Category_names#Name_of_the_artist. – Fayenatic London 22:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with categories for books as most notable people could plausibly have written a book, such as an autobiography, and ambiguity is likely to be with other people. There's probably a stronger case for visual artist categories matching the article name than for musicians, as visual artists typically use their real name, whereas musicians often use stage names or group names that are ambiguous with other topics. and where the ambiguity is with another person in many cases it's obvious which the category relates to. Peter James (talk) 16:49, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- A few years ago, I tried arguing cases where disambiguators were unnecessary in category names. A few sets like this were taken to full discussions, and each time there was a clear consensus to match the full name of the lead article. The only exceptions are for visual artists, as documented at Misplaced Pages:Category_names#Name_of_the_artist. – Fayenatic London 22:17, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- A title should match the article. In this case the articleis Sanji (director). If there are other incorrectly titled categories there they should also be moved. Gonnym (talk) 11:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sanji is a disambiguation page where the others couldn't be directors of music videos. There are other similarly named categories in Category:Music videos by director (the exceptions seem to be where something else is a primary topic or could be confused with the director) so could this be a naming convention for categories there? Peter James (talk) 09:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:American sports-related lists by state to Category:American sport-related lists by state – C2C per Category:United States sport-related lists fuzzy510 (talk) 18:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- If we follow that category then it should be renamed to Category:United States sport-related lists by state. Armbrust 18:28, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Assassinated politicians in North America to Category:Politicians assassinated in North America – WP:C2C, consistency with the related categories. Thinker78 (talk) 23:36, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose There are only two categories that use the proposed format, while all others use the current one. Armbrust 15:27, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Assassinated politicians in North America may imply a different meaning than Politicians assassinated in North America. The first one may denote North America as a place where there are assassinated politicians (for example, the burial place of an assassinated politician, even if the politician was not assassinated in North America).
- The latter points North America as a place where politicians were assassinated. Thinker78 (talk) 22:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose - As the only subcat is Category:Assassinated American politicians ie nationality, the name should be Category:Assassinated North American politicians, subcat of Category:North American people. — Oculi (talk) 11:59, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Would you follow that in Category:Assassinated politicians by continent with Category:Assassinated Asian politicians and Category:Assassinated European politicians? Granted, those would follow the "Assassinated Fooian politicians" pattern in Category:Assassinated politicians by nationality, as well as e.g. Category:Asian people. If we change to those names then we can populate the continents with subcats by nationality. – Fayenatic London 18:02, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Thinker78: Assassinated politicians are only broken down by job, decade and nationality, not by place of death. Unless you are going to build the latter, please can you accept Oculi's proposal? – Fayenatic London 15:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- As a compromise, I have no objection to Oculi's name change proposal. And yes, I am planning to categorize also by place of death (by adding continent category to related nationalities) for additional practical organization. Thinker78 (talk) 05:10, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. As for your second sentence, perhaps you misunderstand me. If you add continent categories to related nationalities, that is still categorising by the person's nationality, not their place of death. It shouldn't be taken for granted that assassinated politicians come to that end in their home country. A hierarchy with that info would only be built by adding new categories to articles, e.g. Category:Politicians assassinated in the United States within Category:Politicians assassinated in North America. You may want to make a proposal somewhere e.g. WT:WikiProject Biography and advertise it at WT:DEATH to seek consensus supporting the need for this structure before you start. – Fayenatic London 21:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- "It shouldn't be taken for granted that assassinated politicians come to that end in their home country." Well, that was my original objection! But then I guess I will also agree to use nationalities and propose Category:Assassinated Northern American politicians (not North American). Thinker78 (talk) 01:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- At speedy you have to fit in with existing structures, in this case Category:North American political people or Category:Politicians of North American nations,. — Oculi (talk) 08:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Those encompass a different categorization than what I have in mind. Latin America has a political history very different from Canada and the US. My idea is to reflect such history in the categorization of assassinated politicians from the region. Therefore, separating Assassinated Northern American politicians (which excludes Mexican politicians) instead of North American (which includes Mexican politicians). I guess my rename request would be rather C2D: Consistency with main article's name (Northern America). Thinker78 (talk) 03:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- That's too remote from the subject for C2D. If there was an article "Political assassinations in Northern America" it might be different! "Latin American" might justify a category for Mexico southwards, within Category:Latin American people, but within Category:People of the Americas I don't think we have any categories for NA people excluding Mexico. – Fayenatic London 15:07, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Those encompass a different categorization than what I have in mind. Latin America has a political history very different from Canada and the US. My idea is to reflect such history in the categorization of assassinated politicians from the region. Therefore, separating Assassinated Northern American politicians (which excludes Mexican politicians) instead of North American (which includes Mexican politicians). I guess my rename request would be rather C2D: Consistency with main article's name (Northern America). Thinker78 (talk) 03:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- At speedy you have to fit in with existing structures, in this case Category:North American political people or Category:Politicians of North American nations,. — Oculi (talk) 08:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- "It shouldn't be taken for granted that assassinated politicians come to that end in their home country." Well, that was my original objection! But then I guess I will also agree to use nationalities and propose Category:Assassinated Northern American politicians (not North American). Thinker78 (talk) 01:07, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. As for your second sentence, perhaps you misunderstand me. If you add continent categories to related nationalities, that is still categorising by the person's nationality, not their place of death. It shouldn't be taken for granted that assassinated politicians come to that end in their home country. A hierarchy with that info would only be built by adding new categories to articles, e.g. Category:Politicians assassinated in the United States within Category:Politicians assassinated in North America. You may want to make a proposal somewhere e.g. WT:WikiProject Biography and advertise it at WT:DEATH to seek consensus supporting the need for this structure before you start. – Fayenatic London 21:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- As a compromise, I have no objection to Oculi's name change proposal. And yes, I am planning to categorize also by place of death (by adding continent category to related nationalities) for additional practical organization. Thinker78 (talk) 05:10, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose - As the only subcat is Category:Assassinated American politicians ie nationality, the name should be Category:Assassinated North American politicians, subcat of Category:North American people. — Oculi (talk) 11:59, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose There are only two categories that use the proposed format, while all others use the current one. Armbrust 15:27, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Canons (canon law) to Category:Canon (canon law) – C2D: The main article is Canon (canon law) Veverve (talk) 11:20, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose, Veverve this is a set category so the plural is appropriate per WP:SETCAT. TSventon (talk) 12:11, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- None currently
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Subdivisions of the Faroe Islands to Category:Administrative divisions of the Faroe Islands – C2C Category:Administrative divisions by country.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:20, 20 February 2023 (UTC) - Category:Subdivisions of Denmark to Category:Administrative divisions of Denmark – C2C Category:Administrative divisions by country, main article Administrative divisions of Denmark currently is a redirect to Denmark#Administrative divisions.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC) - Category:Subdivisions of Greenland to Category:Administrative divisions of Greenland – C2C Category:Administrative divisions by country, C2D main article Administrative divisions of Greenland moved in 2006.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 06:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)- Oppose speedy for above three. Category:Administrative divisions by country uses the "Subdivisions of FOO" format in all of its subcategories. Armbrust 19:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- These do however follow from the cfd 2021_January_19#Category:Country_subdivisions, usually regarded as justification for speedly renaming all subcats. Oculi (talk) 00:36, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- IMO that CFD would only be relevant if these categories used "Country_subdivisions", but they don't. Regards, Armbrust 15:46, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- These categories were moved to full discussion by the nominator. Armbrust 15:17, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- These do however follow from the cfd 2021_January_19#Category:Country_subdivisions, usually regarded as justification for speedly renaming all subcats. Oculi (talk) 00:36, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for above three. Category:Administrative divisions by country uses the "Subdivisions of FOO" format in all of its subcategories. Armbrust 19:33, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
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