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| *There's a lot going on here. I'm going to relist this for another CU to take a look at. There's notes in cuwiki. | *There's a lot going on here. I'm going to relist this for another CU to take a look at. There's notes in cuwiki. | ||
| *Note that ''Global Arrogance'' is a , not that unique and with published literature. So the references to both account sharing this POV are fairly weak as behavioral evidence. ] (]) 15:29, 28 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Srahmadi
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For archived investigations, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Srahmadi/Archive.
24 April 2023
– An SPI clerk has relisted this case for a checkuser to make another check.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Ghazaalch (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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FYI: Homiho, Toluehagh school, and تیرتاوافن were also blocked as socks of Srahmadi, but these accounts aren't listed in the Shrahmadi SPI.
Ghazaalch recreates draft by Homiho (a Srahmadi sockpuppet) with numerous similarities:
User:Ghazaalch's "Global Arrogance" (2021 article /older version)
User:Homiho's "Global Arrogance" (2016 draft)
- Both the draft and the article include quote "Global arrogance is when your culture and economic clout are so powerful and widely diffused that you know that you don't need to occupy other people to influence their lives"
- Both give emphasis on Khamenei and Khomeini’s definition of "Global arrogance"
- Both note "National Day of Campaign against Global arrogance"
- Both define global arrogance from a so-called "Iranian perspective"
- Ghazaalch's version makes a comparison with "Imperialism", saying there is a "global political propaganda against Islam"; while Homiho's version makes a comparison with "Imperialism", saying there is a "US Imperialism and international Zionism wants to destroy Islam".
- Both quote and link Thomas Friedman
- Ghazaalch's version says "promotes the global arrogance of self-declared Christian superiority"; Homiho's version says "display of superiority or self-importance"
- Both say "the concept of global arrogance"
- Ghazaalch's version says "incessant struggle between the international forces of arrogance and oppression (represented by the United States, Western powers and Israel) and the oppressed nations"; while Homiho's version says "They divide the nations to Arrogant and Oppressed. They note to US and Israel as the spearheaded of Global Arrogance."
There is also this old SPI already connecting Ghazaalch to the Srahmadi sockfarm (via Saff V., who at the time had not yet been identified as a sock of Srahmadi). Ghazaalch's block was overturned mainly per this post saying that "Ghazaalch has a better grasp on English language ." But, upon closer inspection, Ghazaalch usually writes with the same grasp on English language as Saff V. (on the poorer side); yet Ghazaalch has made a few edits that are very articulate. These few articulate edits were likely written by someone else and were used to evade the last SPI (unless Ghazaalch just writes in both, poor and articulate English):
- Ghazaalch's usual posts
- Ghazaalch's more articulate posts
These socks have been evading detection for over a decade, so behavior may be the most substantial kind of evidence. I have sent a private email to RoySmith with further evidence. ParadaJulio (talk) 09:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Comments by other users
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- @Ladsgroup and Huji: based on the 31 July 2021 comments, I'm assuming you two might have some interest in this. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:29, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- @RoySmith I'm interested but we need to talk in private. What venue would work for you? Ladsgroup 14:30, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
On hold - -- RoySmith (talk) 17:29, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- There's a lot going on here. I'm going to relist this for another CU to take a look at. There's notes in cuwiki.
- Note that Global Arrogance is a common Iranian POV, not that unique and with published literature. So the references to both account sharing this POV are fairly weak as behavioral evidence. MarioGom (talk) 15:29, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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