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	::The ] has lots of references which are useful. You could also check wiki pages in other languages about this subject. So your statement that "a hard time finding any authors who have anything positive to say" is false and a biased attitude. - ] (]) 10:54, 13 May 2021 (UTC)		::The ] has lots of references which are useful. You could also check wiki pages in other languages about this subject. So your statement that "a hard time finding any authors who have anything positive to say" is false and a biased attitude. - ] (]) 10:54, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
	:::I think the context meant was positive as far as the Japanese Empire's occupation of Korea; some of the points you have made assume Korea would not have accomplished these things without Japanese help/prodding, which is sheer speculation. It will be difficult to find objective historians who will be able to come forward with much in the way of positive accomplishments when balanced with so much absolute misery perpetrated upon the Korean people.		:::I think the context meant was positive as far as the Japanese Empire's occupation of Korea; some of the points you have made assume Korea would not have accomplished these things without Japanese help/prodding, which is sheer speculation. It will be difficult to find objective historians who will be able to come forward with much in the way of positive accomplishments when balanced with so much absolute misery perpetrated upon the Korean people.
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Inconsistencies on cause of death of Yi Tjoune in Misplaced Pages

This article cites a source that he commited suicide. However, Hague_Secret_Emissary_Affair claims that this is a myth, but I don't find any sources for that. The Wiki page on Yi Tjoune claims that his cause of death is unkown, which is maybe a more careful statement, though it is lacking sources as well. So I think it should be good to:

find and compare (contradictory) sources on Yi Tjoune
choose a more careful, neutral phrasing
make it consistent the different Misplaced Pages pages mentioning his death

--Elimik31 (talk) 12:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

I just found this problem was already mentioned Talk:Hague_Secret_Emissary_Affair#Did_Yi_Tjoune_commit_suicide? --Elimik31 (talk) 12:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Article is Focused on Atrocities, Neglects Beneficial Development

There's no doubt that negative events and atrocities occurred during colonial rule. Nearly every colony during the age of colonialism suffered. Many indigenous people did not survive colonialism and became (near)-extinct such as in North / South America, Australia. This article is too focused on that, while omitting or downplaying positive development that occurred during that era. The chapter called "Legacy" focusses almost exclusively on negative events. So it would be more fair to (while keeping objective existing content) also include or expand with information about (please see the Japanese Wiki page for more information ja:日本統治時代の朝鮮:

Improvement of education system and improvement of literacy rate
Currency, banks
Korean suffrage
Traffic development, infrastructure (railroad, automobile, bicycle, ferry, aviation)
Development of resorts (hot springs, climbing, ski, parks, pools, waterfalls, beaches)
Culture (expositions: Joseon Industrial Exhibition of 1915, local specialty (food), fashion / makeup changes during colonial rule, Theater, dance, music, art, sports, movies, broadcast, beverages)
City development: important historical buildings during this era.
Industrialization projects
Projects for modernization

This is feedback to help make the article balanced and hopefully others who are more knowledgeable about the subject can improve it. - Artanisen (talk) 10:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

The article you've linked contains only one reference, which is to another JP Misplaced Pages article. I guess I'll look in the stuff in the Further Reading to see if it's got anything to try and balance it out, but I wouldn't be surprised if I end up having a hard time finding any authors who have anything positive to say about the Japanese Empire. Loafiewa (talk) 10:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

The Japanese wiki page has lots of references which are useful. You could also check wiki pages in other languages about this subject. So your statement that "a hard time finding any authors who have anything positive to say" is false and a biased attitude. - Artanisen (talk) 10:54, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

I think the context meant was positive as far as the Japanese Empire's occupation of Korea; some of the points you have made assume Korea would not have accomplished these things without Japanese help/prodding, which is sheer speculation. It will be difficult to find objective historians who will be able to come forward with much in the way of positive accomplishments when balanced with so much absolute misery perpetrated upon the Korean people.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by HammerFilmFan (talk • contribs) 12:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

"Chosen, Japan" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Chosen, Japan. The discussion will occur at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 26#Chosen, Japan until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Usedtobecool ☎️ 09:38, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Does the entire article need an “unreliable sources” template?

I found a recent edit by Yuorvee drastic enough to warrant input from other editors. They want to add a template warning readers that the entire article’s sources are unreliable. Because of the highly fraught politics involved with this article’s subject, I have no doubt that individual sources may be questionable and partisan, but not everything. If other editors want to go ahead and approve using such a template, I have no problem with it, but it would be preferable to get consensus on it first. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

NPOV

Please make sure to write in a neutral, encyclopedic tone. The facts are already horrific enough; extra emotion just makes the atrocities seem exaggerated and gives fuel to denialists. toobigtokale (talk) 04:02, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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