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Note that HaughtonBrit was previously editing logged out since April 2023 but is now using proxies + + + + . The FedEx IPs (199* and 192*) are his confirmed socks. Recently, a 65*IP was pushing the same edits as HaughtonBrit relentlessly does on the , coincidentally this IP also happens to be a proxy, and made the same exact message on my talk page as UnbiasedSN- and IP's message-. Seems like a duck. ] (]) 04:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC) | Note that HaughtonBrit was previously editing logged out since April 2023 but is now using proxies + + + + . The FedEx IPs (199* and 192*) are his confirmed socks. Recently, a 65*IP was pushing the same edits as HaughtonBrit relentlessly does on the , coincidentally this IP also happens to be a proxy, and made the same exact message on my talk page as UnbiasedSN- and IP's message-. Seems like a duck. ] (]) 04:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC) | ||
] (]) 22:58, 4 October 2023 (UTC) | ] (]) 22:58, 4 October 2023 (UTC) | ||
:Really going all scorched earth here. You're honestly so pitiful. Anyone who goes against your blatant anti-sikh agenda is haughtonbrit. Unlike you I edit on other topics that don't have to do with religion. This is like the last time where you tried pushing a random IP as me. Keep this up i'm going to file a complaint about . ] (]) 23:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
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HaughtonBrit
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04 October 2023
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Suspected sockpuppets
- UnbiasedSN (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Finmas (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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UnbiasedSN-Blatant POV, disruptive editing on Battle of Kartarpur much like all the previous socks. Similar behaviour as Ralx888 and Elifanta23 by appending himself to CanadianSingh1469. Same POV pushing as what is very obviously HaughtonBrit using a proxy - & .
Finmas- The account was created on the same day Javerine was blocked. Significant article overlap with both Javerine and Ralx888. Made this comment directed at me just one day after his account was created-, in an article talk page that Ralx888 was actively participating in-.
Note that HaughtonBrit was previously editing logged out since April 2023 but is now using proxies + + + + . The FedEx IPs (199* and 192*) are his confirmed socks. Recently, a 65*IP was pushing the same edits as HaughtonBrit relentlessly does on the page Battle of Patti, coincidentally this IP also happens to be a proxy, and made the same exact message on my talk page as UnbiasedSN-UnbiasedSN's copy paste of the message I posted on his talk page and IP's message-. Seems like a duck. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 04:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC) Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 22:58, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Really going all scorched earth here. You're honestly so pitiful. Anyone who goes against your blatant anti-sikh agenda is haughtonbrit. Unlike you I edit on other topics that don't have to do with religion. This is like the last time where you tried pushing a random IP as me. Keep this up i'm going to file a complaint about WP:HOUNDING. UnbiasedSN (talk) 23:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- CU data is not helpful in this case, I'm afraid, except to say the two accounts are Unrelated to each other. I make no claims they are unrelated to other socks in this case, only that CU data is not helpful in this case. --Yamla (talk) 10:45, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Evidently stale
ST47 (talk) 00:58, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
09 January 2024
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- Swellingtom (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Finmas (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Dazzem (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Finmas- The account was created on the same day Javerine was blocked. Significant article overlap with both Javerine and Ralx888. Made this comment directed at me just one day after his account was created-, in an article talk page that Ralx888 was actively participating in-. HaughtonBrit has a proclivity to use SPIs as a tool to try to get me blocked, particularly since his account Javerine was blocked. See Abecedare's talk page- you can note that the 2600:1016 IP was later blocked for block evasion-2600:1016 block log. Since then, the users Jaagit and Supmananger filed SPIs against me-. Both users had very strong behaviorual similarities as HaughtonBrit as acknowledged by both RoySmith and Abecedare and were subsequently blocked-. On top of that HaughtonBrit's IPs were openly intervening in the SPIs against those accounts trying to get them absolved-. Then once again, one of HaughtonBrit's proxy socks that have a listed IP of FedEx, proxies that he has been abusing for years- + 199.82.243.0/24 edits used for block evasion after his 5 June 2022 block started making these edits on different admins' talk pages trying to get met blocked comparing me to a PrinceofRoblox sockpuppet- + + . Finmas's use of SPIs as a tool against me + his fixation on PrinceofRoblox can't be a coincidence - they're undeniably the same person. The only person who has this mcuh of a grudge against me and who knows an awful lot about my editing habits is HaughtonBrit given that he's been incessantly confronting me non stop since 2021, at first with accounts like MehmoodS, and when both MehmoodS and Javerine were blocked, with IPs, various proxies, and sock accounts like Rivanawam and Testload and Swellingtom.
Edit: The first check on this account was done on November 27, two months after this user stopped editing on September 27. Since then's he edited again and made it exceedingly obvious that he's a sockpuppet of HaughtonBrit with his PrinceofRoblox SPI. This user is fairly adept at tricking checkusers- see where he managed to trick CUs into believing he had not evaded his block in the past 6 months while making hundreds of edits logged out and with a sock account Javerine. He has numerous dynamic IPs and proxies at his disposal.
Swellingtom-Is behind this 199* blocked proxy. See similar edits- and - Much like the same religious nationalist edits as HaughtonBrit's other socks-Pittsburgh IP. On top of that, the 199* IP was active on the same page as other FedEx IPs makign the same exact edits (which has been conclusively established as HaughtonBrit's proxies)- see and and .
Regarding Dazzem- please see my message on Ponyo's talk page. HaughtonBrit has often posted on Ponyo's talk page in regards to KamalAfghan's sock farm with a bunch of his IPs. Now he is doing the same with sock accounts-.
Edit: He is continuing his disruptive trolling- and . Can someone look at this to prevent him from harassing other users and trolling. He is calling unblocked users sockpuppets in his edit summaries. This is flagrant harassment and intimidation and proves without any shadow of dobut that Dazzem is a sockpuppet as he was trying to get Leviathian12 blocked on Ponyo's talk page-. Pinging firefly, @Dreamy Jazz:, @Cabayi:, @Girth Summit:. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 13:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Admins, please also see this AFD discussion page-. You can see that there are 4 IP votes, and they're all either from Pittsburgh or proxies. Various 2601:547 HaughtonBrit IPs were also editing the article's talk page-. Even Sutyrarashi, an experienced editor who has been on here for 3 years noted that there was clear sockpuppetry taking place. Please be very aware that this user has very extensive proxy use, and some of the proxies do not get detected by Misplaced Pages or spur, I'm willing to bet that this is the reason why Finmas was cleared by CU, but it is 110% him. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 17:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Now you can see that this user is comparing me to a criminal and trying to damage my reputation by invoking my former sockpuppetry and implying that any thing I do should automatically be invalidated-. It's just astonishing to see how low he can stoop to. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 19:42, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- You can clearly see that every single time someone has tried to file an SPI on me, they were all HaughtonBrit confirmed IPs or sockpuppets. - the 2601:547 IP range are confimred HB IPs, and have been blocked numerous times, not just as range blocks, but also multiple times as individual IPs-.
- Then you can see Jaagit and Supmananger doing the same thing and both were blocked as possible sock/meatpuppets of HB, both exhibited similar writing styles and both were consistent with the pattern of hounding me at the time- and .
- Hounding examples- Ralx888, HB's confirmed socks following me on the Operation Blue Star thread where I was active on right before he joined-+ , . Then while I was editing the page Kaur, this user started hounding me editing logged out- take a look at the 2600:1016 IPs and their obvious attempts to stifle, these IPs geolocate to Pittsburgh and were also recognzied as HB socks-.
- + + and you can see on the page Battle of Jalalabad talk page- the 2601:547 IPs were block evading edit warring and trying to overturn consenus-. On the page Nanakpanthi, this user was hounding me logged out as well as blatantly lying about what a source said, to once again, aggrandize his religion- and . You can see all the 2600:1016 IPs confirmed HB socks who were there simply to stifle me. Then I was being hounded on the page Second Siege of Anandpur by again HB's confirmed IP socks-, , leading to the page being protected. More hounding on the Kaur page during May- and . Being followed on the talk page of Punjabi Suba movement by one of HB's 2600:1016 IP-. Then I was hounded by HB's confirmed sock Rvianwam who tried to gaslight me on my own talk page and mess with my edits on the page Kaur-. Further hounding on the page 1991 Rudrapur bombinds- and 1987 Lalru bus massacre- by HB's 2601:547 and other Pittsbiurgh IPs. More hounding on the page Anand Karaj which lead to the page being protected numerous times-. More harassment on the page 1983 Dhilwan bus massacre-. One the page Battle of Mardanpur-. Hounding and block evading on the deletion discussion page of Battle of Manakpur by Elifanta23-. All this leading up to Jaagit and Supmananger.
- Anyone can see a clear pattern of harassment and intimidation. I know this is a highly idiosyncratic situation where one person clearly follows one person around, makes constant frivolous reverts to their edits, makes constant attempts to gaslight them for years and hence admins and other uninvolved users think I'm exaggarating or being overly zealous and percieve my reports as trying to stifle opponents. But I actually urge you to go through my edits since April 2023 and you can see hundreds of examples of me being hounded by this user. Since the amount of diffs I have of this user hounding me are quite large are very, very large, I will continue this at a later time. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 07:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Abecedare, I know this is a long shot since Abecedare is inactive at the moment, but Abecedare dealt with much of HB's harassment during April-August 2023 and can affirm how blatant and unusual HB's block evasion has been. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 07:58, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Btw, I only included a small sample of diffs from certain pages, there are far more individual diffs in each page, but for brevity's sake I had to include only a few of them. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 08:05, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- You can see just 3 days before Jaagit and Supmananger filed SPIs against me, I had to deal with HB's sockpuppetry on the page Anand Karaj- leading to the page having to be protected. Jaagit and Supmananger were clearly HB's sock/meatpuppets and were accordingly blocked by admins.
- You can note that HB has an extensive history of using a certain proxy/VPN that has a listed ISP of FedEx- for at least 2 years. These FedEx proxies were also being used to block evade after MehmoodS was blocked. See the 199.82.243.0/24 range on the 28 Jan 2023 SPI-. You can clearly see these exact same FedEx proxies were being used to file frivolous SPIs against me by posting on different admins' talk pages comparing me to some Prince of Roblox sock-. See how this 192 IP is the same FedEx proxy-. See how this 199 IP is the same FedEx proxy-. . See how this different 199 IP is also the exact same FedEx proxy-. I tried to inform Courcelles that it was HaughtonBrit's proxies which were making these comparisons, HaughtonBrit edited on the talk page right after me, confronting me, with this FedEx Proxy- and . You can also note that this exact same 170 proxy was the same who filed a SPI report against KamalAfghan-! I think I have conclusively proven that I am a frequent target of these SPIs by HB. You should also note the timing of these SPIs, the proxies posting on various admins' talk pages was right near or on the same exact date as the 2 year anniversary of the creation of my account (Sep 28, 2021). Finmas then makes a Prince of Roblox SPI against me on the 1 year anniversary of my unblock (Dec 30, 2022) much like the HB confirmed proxies comparing me to Prince of Roblox, this in addition to the fact that this account followed me to the Operation Blue Star talk page thread much like HB's other CU blocked account Rivanwam. How in the absolute world is this not bleedingly obvious duck behaviour? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 09:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Now you can see that this user is comparing me to a criminal and trying to damage my reputation by invoking my former sockpuppetry and implying that any thing I do should automatically be invalidated-. It's just astonishing to see how low he can stoop to. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 19:42, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Adding my comment to The Wordsmith's t/p which got Dazzem blocked: Good day. I saw that you partially actioned HaughtonBrit's SPI-. However, the other sock Dazzem is unblocked, I believe owing to DatGuy's statement: "Dazzem (talk · contribs) is Possible, but hasn't made enough edits for a behavioural block. I've blocked them for a week for other loutsocking." I'd like to address this, the whole situation is so convoluted because of HB's brazen sockpuppetry, gaslighting, and frequent oscillation of IPs (both IPv6s, v4s and proxies) that it's head spinning. I will try my best to reiterate my case for Dazzem being an obvious sock of HB.
- Just to get this out the way, HB's MO on Misplaced Pages is to aggrandize and augment Sikh military achievements on Misplaced Pages, since the Sikhs were historically involved in major conflicts with the Afghans, HB tends to be active in Sikh-Afghan conflicts, but also Mughal-Sikh, Anglo-Sikh, Maratha-Sikh conflicts and more. He edits from Pittsburgh or other nearby places in Pennsylvania-. Bbb23 commented-"In addition, MehmoodS has demonstrated by their own admitted use of IPs in the past that they edit from Pittsburgh, and the IPv6s noted in the diffs geolocate to Pittsburgh.". After his accounts Javerine and Ralx888 were blocked, this user has been hounding me non stop with various 2601:547 and 2600:1016 IPs which geolocate to Pittsburgh, or occasionally with different Pittsburgh IPv4s. See block logs-, , . I listed some of the harassment on the SPI page as well.
- In March, a user KamalAfghan appeared, making edits aggrandizing the Afghans. HaughtonBrit immidiately began a campaign against him- for example you can see Javerine (HB confirmed sock) reverting KA-, and then HB 2601 IPs hounding him after Javerine was blocked-see 11 HB IP edits editing in close proximity to KA-. More hounding: , you can see 14 HB IP edits editing in close proximity to KA-. 8 edits (from both HB's confirmed sock Ralx888 and 2601:547 IP) here-. 12 edits in close proximity to KA here-. You can also see the 2601:547 IP trying to recreate a deleted battle that HB made, which was later declined due to sockpuppetry-. Eventually HB started approaching admins just before KamalAfghan was blocked on May 18 discussing the possibility of sockpuppetry- and (you can note that these messages were made on the same day KamalAfghan was blocked). Somehow, Ponyo caught wind of this and promptly blocked KamalAfghan.
- Since then HB has frequently been posting to Pnnyo's talk page regarding KA's sockpuppetry-
- (here Ponyo locked her talk page meaning that if HB wanted to canvass, he'd have to do it with an account)
- You can see the 2601:547 IPs and the 71 IPv4 geolocate to Pittsburgh, and some of them are FedEx ISP proxies. HB has been abusing a certain proxy network that provides IPs that have a listed ISP of FedEx for years now. + when I filed a SPI on him on Jan 2023 which led to MehmoodS's unblock request being denied, I pointed out how he was using these FedEx proxies to block evade. He has been abusing these proxies since 2020, there are hundreds of diffs of him using them to evade his block and engage in edit warring without an account so he could avoid punishment, but this example is the most glaring- HB was having a disagreement on the page Battle of Saragarhi, making numerous edit both through accounts as well as these 192 and 199* FedEx proxies; he was engaged in a discussion with an admin utcursh-. To troll and gaslight his disputant, he made an account impersonating utcursh, which he pointed out: "Pretty silly of you to create an account impersonating me (User:AtmaramU). The latest sources that you've added are not great either." and -"After posting here, the anon (192 and 199 FedEx proxies) created an account impersonating me (User:UAtmaram), and added a few other sources to the article." and . AtmaramU is a confirmed Hb sock.
- You can see on KamalAfghan's SPI, with the exception of Maplesyrupsushi, all of them were filed by HB's FedEx socks-. Dazzem makes the same post on Ponyo's talk page- regarding KamalAfghan despite being a brand new editor. And this was right before HB's confirmed 2601:547 Pittsburgh IPs were harassing Leviathian12, whom HB believed to be a KA sock-. In fact, the most current KamalAfghan SPI report is by the confirmed 2601:547 HB sock-. Just goes to show this user tries to gaslight and be as outlandish as possible, so that anyone who reports him seems like they're exaggerating or being overzealous because no one would act that absurdly.
- You can also note that 170* and 199* FedEx proxy who filed the SPI on KamalAfghan and were canvassing on Ponyo's talk page was also on Courcelles' talk page trying to get me blocked by saying I'm a sock of PrinceofRoblox- and , . Which is basically what Finmas (now blocked HB sock) was doing .
- I'm sorry- I know this is pretty convoluted, but Dazzem is 110% a sockpuppet or at the very least meatpuppet of HB, it isn't even a matter of suspicion or plausible deniability. Their behaviours match 1:1. If you want me to clear anything up or have any questions, please let me know, I think it's imperative that a a brazen block evader and gaslighter like HB be shut down swiftly. He has been harassing and hurting people and disrupting Misplaced Pages for far too long. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 01:57, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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Suthasianhistorian8 is the one falsely calling me sock of HaughtonBrit. You can investigate and it will be proven without any benefit of doubt that users Leviathan12 and Monabhaii are none other than socks of KamalAfghan01 . Same interest in articles that were vandalized by socks of KamalAfghan01. Quick check will prove it. Suthasianhistorian8 is quite familiar with these socks and deliberately trying to prevent from this findings. This user needs to stop his harassment. Looking at the history of this editor, over half of his edits are about accusing other editors of HaughtonBrit. He is nothing to contribute but here just for his obsession over HaughtonBrit. Anyone can Check his edit history for these findings.2601:547:B00:CD18:FD46:80B6:64C7:BABF (talk) 14:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Your IP isn't in the range listed in the investigation. NasssaNsertalk 03:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Seems to me that WP:BOOMERANG WP:SPI may be in order here. I'm not seeing any clear evidence of sockpuppetry/socking. While edit warring may indeed be a problem, that's not an issue for SPI. I advise EVERYONE involved to step away, cool down, and engage in a discussion on the talk page. In one instance the IP in question changed the number of troops at a battle hundreds of years ago from 60,000 to 20,000 and had multiple sources. Assuming both sources are right, couldn't we just say 20,000-60,000 and cite the various sources? Historians and editors can reasonably disagree and still produce good work. Buffs (talk) 06:46, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Buffs, I appreciate your comment and would like to address it. I do concur that my analysis of Swellingtom was flawed and I mistakenly believed it to be operating a proxy, whilst the account is evidently behind this 199* IP-, I do realize now that it wasn't a proxy but apparently linked to Freedom Mobile, which is indeed a legitimate service provider in Canada. At the time, I conflated its ISP, Globalive- to an ISP of one of HB's previously blocked proxy, Globaltelehost-. Given their similar names, I erroneously believed they were somehow connected. In my defense, during that time, I was being hounded by various strange proxies and IPs which were linked to obscure businesses and institutions, which were clearly in line with HaughtonBrit's actions, and as a result I was extra vigilant about proxy abuse. I had also never heard of a Canadian ISP called Globalive up until recently, despite me residing in Canada for the past two decades, and so I believed it to be an illegitimate business which many VPNs and proxies often appear linked to. HaughtonBrit was also editing the page Battle of Chappar Chiri logged out a few months before- (you can see the 96* IP geolocates to Pittsburgh like all of HB's other IP socks-. He was trying to stifle a (legitimate academic) source which essentially gave the Sikhs a numerical advantage over the Mughals in terms of troops, and hence made the Sikh victory less impressive, and if you know anything about HaughtonBrit, he's extremely fixated on manipulating infobox figures to aggrandize Sikh miltary achievements. See the diffs-, , . He eventually concurred that the source provided was legitimate after another editor provided an excerpt from the book-. So when the 199* IP made a very similar edit on the same page- which once again gave the Mughals the numerical advantage in troops, it obviously range alarm bells in my head. On top of that, the 199* IP was using the exact same edit summaries as the 96 Pittsburgh IP- and . The 199* IP was also editing the page Battle of Amritsar (1757) which was also edited by HB's sock Javerine 17 times-, both of course had the same MO. Swellingtom also massively inflated British casualties in a Anglo-Sikh battle- which again, manipulating Anglo-Sikh conflicts/battles was also something HB frequently did. So while my techinal analysis was indeed incorrect, I do still believe there meatpuppetry was at play there. For someone who has made thousands of edits after their block despite swearing up and down that they would never do anything of the sort, it's very plausible and likely that meatpuppetry could have been used to further their POV.
- I would also like to address your comments about the IP/account using sources to back up their claims, I do believe I have a fairly good grasp of what kinds of sources are reliable and comply with WP:HISTRS in South Asian related history topics and which are not. I have also asked admins involved in this area about their input on source reliability numerous times. The sources the IP and Swellingtom were using were not reliable. You can see in this edit-, the IP added a Ashiq Muhammad source, without adding the page number which would fail WP:V , and also a Jadunath Sarkar source which is a WP:RAJ source and has been explicitly deprecated by admins. In this edit- , the IP added a source authored by Rajeev Katyal-https://www.rajeevkatyal.com/. You can see that the author has no educational training in history nor was his work peer reviewed, his main expertise and career focus was in Human Resources and business and his book was self published, making him a thorougly unreliable source. Swellingtom's edit wasn't much better-, he added a primary source written by a British chronicler who wrote the book in the 19th century. These drive by edits, which only serve to bolster the Sikhs military achievements are a hallmark of HaughtonBrit, who doesn't care about source reliability, accuracy, or anything else.
- Finmas and Dazzem however are clearly, undeniably HB socks. If you have any questions or concerns pertaining to those 2 accounts, I would be more than happy to address them. I do hope we can have a respectful and productive discussion. Thank you. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 01:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think we can have an amicable discussion. As stated above, my points were contingent on accurate sources. If they are not accurate, there is a different standard. It seems to me that semi-protection for these pages is in order and would recommend that (and did) on WP:AN. I have been accused many times of being a sockpuppet (along with acts of violence, murder, etc), but, despite some issues I have with the admin corps, they really do seem to get blocks due to sockpuppetry correct...eventually. Give 'em a chance; it might take a few minutes.
- Protip: if a source is self-published, it is only accurate for minimal, and attributable claims (like "A.B. states in his self-published book <claim XYZ>"); such claims must meet all other criteria for inclusion. The fact that the author has "no educational training in history nor was his work peer reviewed, his main expertise and career focus was in Human Resources" is an attack via credentialism, not facts. Stick with "self-published" as your reason to disregard such opinions. Everything else comes across as elitism/condescension.
- Good luck! Buffs (talk) 16:22, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- The only provided evidence for Swellingtom (talk · contribs) is that two IPs, owned by different organisations, in a range with 16777214 others, edited the same page once, which isn't enough for neither a check nor a block. Dazzem (talk · contribs) is Possible, but hasn't made enough edits for a behavioural block. I've blocked them for a week for other loutsocking. I don't understand what the AfD link is meant to convey. Finmas (talk · contribs) is Inconclusive, which I will leave on CU completed for someone else. DatGuyContribs 21:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Finmas Blocked and tagged. Closing. The Wordsmith 20:57, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
02 March 2024
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Suspected sockpuppets
- RangersRus (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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First few edits is on the page Sikhism in the United States, RangersRus makes these edits on the same exact day that HaughtonBrit's confirmed IP socks were editing them + HB was extensively editing the page logged out a month or so before hand RangersRus appears, through both logged out editing and his confirmed sock Javerine. HaughtonBrit edits logged out usually with 2601:547 IPs and 2600:1016 IPs- + . You can see these IPs edits-, , , , , , .
Now we come to the 24* Pittsburgh IP which was editing the page on Aug 27 2023. You can note that this 24* Ip range was also confirmed as a HB sockpuppet-24* IP block log. See edits-, , , ,. RangersRus comes in just two hours later making the exact same POV edits, inflating the Sikh population's numbers-, ,,,,, etc.
You can note that Finmas, a now blocked sock that was a duck quacking into a megaphone was making these same type of "Sikhism in X country" edits-.
For those unfamiliar with HaughtonBrit's modus operandi, while he is extremely fixated on aggrandizing Sikh military achievements, his second greatest fixation is on diminishing the Sikhs' historical adversaries or contenders for power, in his case, he holds a particular animosity towards the Marathas and seeks to reduce their military achievements or feats as much as possible. There are hundreds upon hundreds of these edits, I will link a few diffs of this a little later. In fact while MehmoodS was blocked, and it was uncovered that he was editing logged out, a bulk of the logged out edits had to do with his animosity towards the Marathas-see this 50* Ip edit, this IP was used by MehmoodS to resubmit his unblock request after he had his tpa revoked-. You can see that Hambirao Mohite, Maratha navy, Sai Bhonsle, Mahadji Shinde are all Maratha related. Keep in mind this is an extremely small sample of his edits, there are hundreds more.
RangersRus continues this Maratha animosity- here he removes content claiming that Marathas conquered a fort and simultaneously removes content claiming that the Sikhs were defeated by an Afghan ruler. Here he is voting "delete" on an article which detailed a Maratha campaign-. Voting "delete" on what appears to be a battle in Maharastra in which the Marathas defeated the Mughals- + .
Much of his edits are on movies (too many diffs to link), but don't be fooled, this was the exact same tactic was used by HaughtonBrit after his previous account WorldWikiAuthorOriginal account was blocked (I know that account isn't officially listed here as a sockpuppet but it's been brought up many times before . There is extremely strong duck technical and behavioural similarities between the two, I was considering making a request to merge both World's and HaughtonBrit's SPI together last year, but didn't come around to it. It was also confirmed that MehmoodS and WorldWiki were using the same ranges- - (But one of their ranges, a /60 range blocked by ToBeFree on 12 May 2021 for three years, has a TON of CU checks, many by RoySmith,, , . You can note that these ranges blocked on May 12 2021 were listed on WWAO's SPI-. See how HaughtonBrit makes most of his edits on movies + religious matters to evade suspicion-, which is exactly what RangersRus is doing.
Context: In 2023, a few users unrelated to HB became extremely active on Misplaced Pages, making a bunch (hundreds) of articles which aggrandized the Sikhs-+ , the vast majority of them were poorly written and sourced, for example, they would use a combination of primary 17th/18th century texts with Raj era sources and haigographic modern sources and sometimes with reliable sources to push articles which would say something like the Sikhs killed 95% of the opposing army. See this for example whose infobox says the Sikhs killed 35K out of the 35.1K belligerent troops. In Jan 2024, I had made it clear that I would start nominating these articles for deletion and informed both users of my intentions to take action if they continued inundating the encyclopedia with these badly written articles-. You can note the time of my first deletion nomination- 14 Jan 20:34. RangersRus who had hundreds of edits at that point and had never made a single AFD vote up until that point, suddenly began voting incessantly in various AFDs, he made his first AFD vote just two hours after I made mine- note the time being 23:52 14 Jan on a battle concerning a Maratha victory. RangersRus has made almost 60 AFD votes since then- (control+f and type deletion in the box). HaughtonBrit seems to be unable to tolerate anyone going against articles which mention a Sikh victory, it's his kryptonite. Even before I came on Misplaced Pages, there are thousands of diffs of him harassing and employing nonsensical IDHT tactics to frustrate his opponents so that articles would aggrandize the Sikhs as much as possible.
RangersRus also voted to delete a battle in which the Sikhs were defeated-. This was a AFD in which HB made 4 edits logged out or through proxies- see and note that 173 IP geolocates to Pennsylvania. , , . HB has an extensive proxy abuse history and was hounding me wih various different vpns/proxies.
RangersRus also voted in the last 2/3 AFDs I nominated- voting to keep an article which was clearly poorly sourced/non notable because it mentioned a Sikh victory, and this (though this seems to be a tactic to continue voting on my AFDs with less scrutiny).
This all seems extremely, extremely suspicious. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 12:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC) Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 12:51, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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Bogus case of revenge SPI. I fail to see how these allegations are tenable. I do not remember my earlier edits and its plausible that Sikhism in the United States and Rohtas fort were one of the many pages on mainspace that showed up on recent edits list and I took interest in what I considered was unwarranted edits that didn't run parallel with the source and Rohtas Fort was a case of no source available and that is why the bare comment was removed. My interest in Deletion sorting list of India began when Battle of Udgir showed on recent edit list. Pages like Battle of Rohilla, Third siege of Anandpur and Battle of Akora Khattak AFDs are one of the many that were listed in the deletion sorting list that I would go through often to help with votes. I voted Delete for Third siege of Anandpur because it was poorly sourced and poorly written page and it was nominated by accuser himself. There were no complains. Battle of Akora Khattak was another where I voted for Delete because it was too poorly written and poorly sources with snapshots from Google books and my vote didn't matter because other voters thought that it was a keep. Battle of Rohilla is in near path with Battle of Akora Khattak but had more than passing views by very reliable scholarly sources. The vote didn't get prized by the accuser and so he created this SPI case. I am not connected with any religious or community to take precedence over. My votes are exclusively on the evaluation of sources. From 67 to 70 AFDs that I voted for, it should be unconcerning if I voted on the three pages that the accuser has concern on. Administrators can run a check on the quality of edits done by me and I hope these allegations can be dropped. RangersRus (talk) 21:52, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- How do you know about this SPI? I never pinged you.......Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:57, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- your reply to my vote on the AFD of Battle of Rohilla brought me here. I hope that is not a problem. RangersRus (talk) 22:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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