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== Armenia has just recognized Palestine == | |||
Armenia has just recognized Palestine: https://www.mfa.am/hy/interviews-articles-and-comments/2024/06/21/mfa_statement/12706 | |||
(also, in the section about Japan the word Palestinian is misspelled as “Palestianian”) ] (]) 07:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I'm seeing sources saying that and it has been added, so.....145. ] (]) 08:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: even says 145 UN members. ] (]) 14:31, 21 June 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Czech (again) == | == Czech (again) == | ||
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:The article currently mentions 145 states recognizing the State of Palestine, whereas the map displays 146. I recommend aligning these figures for consistency. ] (]) 09:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | :The article currently mentions 145 states recognizing the State of Palestine, whereas the map displays 146. I recommend aligning these figures for consistency. ] (]) 09:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC) | ||
== Could you please just add percentage to lead? == | |||
To make it clearer to readers, could you please add the percentage of countries that recognize Palestine to the first sentence, making it be “As of July 2024, the ] is recognized as a sovereign state by 145 of the 193 (75.13%) member states of the ].” ] (]) 11:49, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
:How about "three quarters" per ? ] (]) 11:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
::I’d go with the percentage as it will probably be changing slightly with time, and I guess everyone understands that over 75% means over three quarters. Still, the following sentence also is missing a word, I believe it should read “due to THE FACT THAT the United States…”] (]) 12:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Might be a way to automate the %... ] (]) 12:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Seems fine, or "more than three-quarters". Two decimal places, even talking about a percentage of countries, just seems silly. What's 0.13% of a country? ] (]) 13:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::<nowiki>{{Numrec|Pal}}</nowiki> produces {{Numrec|Pal}} but unfortunately <nowiki>{{percentage|{{Numrec|Pal}}|193|0}}</nowiki> doesn't seem to work for a %. Anyone know how to do that? ] (]) 15:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::So could you just add 75% for now? Someone will always remember to change it for each new recognition. But the following sentence is still grammatically wrong / not proper English: “due to the United States, a permanent member (…), has consistently used” - should be “due to '''the fact that''' the United States (…) has consistently used” in proper English. ] (]) 22:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::: {{done}} — ] ] 23:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Proposal to Split the List of States into Two Collapsible Sections == | == Proposal to Split the List of States into Two Collapsible Sections == |
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Czech (again)
Please refer to the discussion here. Thoughts? Selfstudier (talk) 21:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- What about going along those lines? -
In 1988, Czechoslovakia officially recognised Palestine and this act was carried over to its legal successor Czechia. Lately, the government of Peter Fiala, in line with its pro-Israeli policy, began to question the continuing recognition, arguing that there is currently no Palestinian entity fulfilling the criteria of an independent state. However, Czechia did not formally revoke the 1988 act, and the Czech government and the Palestinian Authority continue to maintain diplomatic relations.
Needs copyediting and adding sources.— kashmīrī 13:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)- Added per BOLD. I suggest moving Czechia to countries that do recognise Palestine, per lots of sources and the actual legal situation it seems. — kashmīrī 23:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- So that technically makes it 146 countries recognizing it? Underdwarf58 (talk) 14:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unless someone is going to make some strong objection, it seems there is sufficient sourcing to say that, yes. Perhaps give it a little more time before adding it. Selfstudier (talk) 14:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- So that technically makes it 146 countries recognizing it? Underdwarf58 (talk) 14:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Added per BOLD. I suggest moving Czechia to countries that do recognise Palestine, per lots of sources and the actual legal situation it seems. — kashmīrī 23:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Proposal:
- The article currently mentions 145 states recognizing the State of Palestine, whereas the map displays 146. I recommend aligning these figures for consistency. 91.25.188.242 (talk) 09:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Proposal to Split the List of States into Two Collapsible Sections
I propose splitting the “List of States” into two collapsible sections to improve the readability and navigation of the page on mobile devices. The two sections could be titled:
1. Diplomatic recognition(s) 2. No diplomatic recognition
This separation would help readers quickly identify the categories of states and entities listed, making the information more accessible.
Additionally, I would like to inquire whether the “Sovereign Military Order of Malta,” which lacks territorial sovereignty, should be grouped alongside partially recognized states like Kosovo and the Republic of China (Taiwan). It seems to have a unique status that might not fully align with the others in the same category. 91.25.188.242 (talk) 23:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- That’s not possible. You have to show all of them together. Even with recognition or diplomatic relations. Just keep this table as it is. If more countries recognize the State of Palestine then add them on the table. But the format must stay the same. YDMCFreshMeadows192 (talk) 18:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Not done for now. There is recognition of sovereignty between states, and then there are diplomatic relations between governments or similar entities. The two are often, but not always, aligned. If anything, the table could have two separate columns, one mentioning the recognition status and the other, whether diplomatic relations have been established. — kashmīrī 18:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks. YDMCFreshMeadows192 (talk) 23:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
France recognized Palestine this summer
Note that this is because a new government got elected in the National Assembly, a left government 2A01:E0A:493:4210:14A:1946:9A05:9D20 (talk) 06:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Btw, that's the text of the Sénat proposing the decision :
- https://www.senat.fr/leg/ppr14-049.html 2A01:E0A:493:4210:14A:1946:9A05:9D20 (talk) 06:30, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Treating this as an edit request, there is no decision yet. The French parliament voted in 2014 to recognize and Macron is thinking about it, under some pressure from the left. Selfstudier (talk) 08:57, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Ireland has full diplomatic relations with the State of Palestine
In the list of countries with diplomatic relations with Palestine the article falsely states that Ireland does not have relations with Palestine. In a press release by the Irish government dated 28 May 2024 it states that "Ireland recognises the State of Palestine". The release continues, "At a meeting of government today (May 28th) Ireland formally recognised the State of Palestine. The Government recognises Palestine as a sovereign and independent state and agreed to establish full diplomatic relations between Dublin and Ramallah. An Ambassador of Ireland to the State of Palestine will be appointed along with a full Embassy of Ireland in Ramallah." https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/71936-ireland-recognises-the-state-of-palestine/ SanVitoresII (talk) 08:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Read the text again. It says agreed to which means that the two have not established ties effectively. If the article said decided to, then it would mean that they did establish ties immediately. Underdwarf58 (talk) 13:33, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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