| Revision as of 15:38, 14 October 2024 editRaladic (talk | contribs)11,167 edits →Trans Kids Deserve Better draft: ReplyTag: Reply← Previous edit | Revision as of 08:12, 15 October 2024 edit undoVoid if removed (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users2,409 edits Add contentious topic notice for awarenessTag: contentious topics alertNext edit → | ||
| Line 60: | Line 60: | ||
| :::::In the meantime, if you plan to create more articles, you can always ask for feedback on the relevant forums as you already did with this one (which is how we found it), and also you can come join the ] WikiProject where you can post on the ] to attract other editors interested in the space. | :::::In the meantime, if you plan to create more articles, you can always ask for feedback on the relevant forums as you already did with this one (which is how we found it), and also you can come join the ] WikiProject where you can post on the ] to attract other editors interested in the space. | ||
| :::::Happy editing :) ] (]) 15:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | :::::Happy editing :) ] (]) 15:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | ||
| == Introduction to contentious topics == | |||
| {{ivmbox | image = Commons-emblem-notice.svg |imagesize=50px | bg = #E5F8FF | text = You have recently edited a page related to '''gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them''', a topic designated as ''']'''. This is a brief introduction to contentious topics and <em>does <strong>not</strong> imply that there are any issues with your editing</em>. | |||
| A special set of rules applies to certain topic areas, which are referred to as ''contentious topics''. These are specially designated topics that tend to attract more persistent disruptive editing than the rest of the project and have been designated as contentious topics by the Arbitration Committee. When editing a contentious topic, Misplaced Pages’s norms and policies are more strictly enforced, and Misplaced Pages administrators have special powers in order to reduce disruption to the project. | |||
| Within contentious topics, editors should edit <strong>carefully</strong> and <strong>constructively</strong>, refrain from disrupting the encyclopedia, and: | |||
| *adhere to the purposes of Misplaced Pages; | |||
| *comply with all applicable policies and guidelines; | |||
| *follow editorial and behavioural best practice; | |||
| *comply with any page restrictions in force within the area of conflict; and | |||
| *refrain from gaming the system. | |||
| <p>Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics ''procedures'' you may ask them at the ] or you may learn more about this contentious topic ]. You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the {{tl|Ctopics/aware}} template. ] (]) 08:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC)</p>}}<!-- Derived from Template:Contentious topics/alert/first --> | |||
Revision as of 08:12, 15 October 2024
Welcome to The Misplaced Pages Adventure!
- Hi Antitransphobe! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission. I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
| Mission 1 | Mission 2 | Mission 3 | Mission 4 | Mission 5 | Mission 6 | Mission 7 |
| Say Hello to the World | An Invitation to Earth | Small Changes, Big Impact | The Neutral Point of View | The Veil of Verifiability | The Civility Code | Looking Good Together |
About The Misplaced Pages Adventure | Hang out in the Interstellar Lounge
-- 22:01, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Welcome!
Hello, Antitransphobe, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
- Introduction and Getting started
- Contributing to Misplaced Pages
- The five pillars of Misplaced Pages
- How to edit a page and How to develop articles
- How to create your first article
- Simplified Manual of Style
- How to avoid a conflict of interest
You may also want to complete the Misplaced Pages Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Misplaced Pages. You can visit the Teahouse to ask questions or seek help. Need some ideas about what kind of things need doing? Try the Task Center.
Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Misplaced Pages:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 12:09, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Invitation to WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies
|
| Thank you for your recent contributions to one of Misplaced Pages's LGBTQ articles! Please consider joining WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies, a group of editors that seeks to create, expand, improve, and maintain LGBTQ articles. If you would like to join us, please add your name to our members list. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 12:09, 7 October 2024 (UTC) |
Redirect or disambiguation page?
Hi, I undid your conversion of Vaginism from a redirect to a disambiguation page. I can't find anything either in our article that was added to the disambiguation page, Gender-critical feminism, nor in searches in multiple sources (Google, proquest, and ebscohost). If I've missed something, feel free to discuss it here by pinging me. Since you're fairly new here, you may find Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation (which covers when to have a dab page and what sorts of articles to include) and Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages (which covers how those dab pages and entries on it should be formatted) interesting. Happy editing and hope to see you around more! Skynxnex (talk) 22:35, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skynxnex Hi @Skynxnex:, I have changed the page into a disambiguation page due to the usage of the word "vaginist" to refer to gender-critical feminists on social media. Since I'm new to editing Misplaced Pages, I am expected to make mistakes as I go along. Could you check with me so that I can learn more about what I should do or not? Antitransphobe (talk) 23:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- Social media is a bit vague? Although searching X it seems to very occasionally used that way. I think for dabbing it it needs a bit more usage, particularly since it's not mentioned in Gender-critical feminism. Sometimes discussions about whether something should be a redirect or a disambiguation page takes place at WP: Redirects for discussion. Hope that makes some sense? Skynxnex (talk) 23:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skynxnex That's some food for thought. How relevant should something be in order to deserve being included in Misplaced Pages? I'm not sure whether the term being used on social media warrants making the edit like this one. Antitransphobe (talk) 00:03, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- This is a tricky place where there's a lot of good faith disagreement about how common a (honestly negative?) term needs to be in order to be a redirect and/or on a disambiguation page. If you can find any usages outside of strictly social media or it gets much more common there, I'd say it's fair to disambiguate. And if it has general reliable source coverage, it might be due for the target article too. WP:RNEUTRAL has some related thoughts.
- I was going to mention potentially adding it to wikt:vaginism but I see you already did :) Skynxnex (talk) 21:17, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Skynxnex That's some food for thought. How relevant should something be in order to deserve being included in Misplaced Pages? I'm not sure whether the term being used on social media warrants making the edit like this one. Antitransphobe (talk) 00:03, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Social media is a bit vague? Although searching X it seems to very occasionally used that way. I think for dabbing it it needs a bit more usage, particularly since it's not mentioned in Gender-critical feminism. Sometimes discussions about whether something should be a redirect or a disambiguation page takes place at WP: Redirects for discussion. Hope that makes some sense? Skynxnex (talk) 23:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Trans Kids Deserve Better draft
I hope you don't mind, but I just did some polishing up of Draft:Trans Kids Deserve Better -- some basic standard Misplaced Pages page things (bolding the title, adding an "official website" link, some readability things (breaking up run-on sentences), and a little WP:POV fix (we can't use the group's website to say that things are getting worse for trans youth, even if it's true; we have to put that as their perspective.) The biggest thing was I bulked it up, not so much to put more information, but to put more and particularly non-queer-specific sources. Not that there was anything wrong with your sources (Pink News is good; I'm not actually familiar with Them), but when trying to demonstrate notability and get something through AfC, it can help if the sources don't seem to be narrowly tailored.
Also, for future note: "notoriety" doesn't just mean "fame", it means specifically "bad fame". (A lot of folks trip over that, when they generally want "notability", which is not-specifically-bad fame) I've cleared out that word.
I hope you're okay with my changes. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 21:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Jumping in here as well, I helped polish up the draft adding some formatting and expanded on some of the details with adding a few more sources to support the article and content.
- I hope you like the additions. Raladic (talk) 23:00, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, you and @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist have done a great job expanding the article. As a new editor, I appreciate your effort that I can learn from.
- I dont' have much time to write new articles, but now I can rely on your edits so that I can learn on how I should expand the articles.
- When the article should be submitted for review? I don't want to make a serious blunder for the first time, as I know that reviewing drafts often take a lot of time. Antitransphobe (talk) 11:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think as it stands the article should be ready for review, so you can probably go ahead and submit it :) Raladic (talk) 14:57, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll do it. One more thing, have you considered becoming a new page reviewer so that creating trans-related pages will go smoother? I don't have enough experience and so I'm not fit for the role, at least at this time. Antitransphobe (talk) 15:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I might consider it in the future :)
- Currently I spend most of my time WP:WIKIGNOMEing by adopting articles for improvement, occasionally writing new articles and recently I've been pretty busy in the move of LGBTQ and related sub-topics.
- In the meantime, if you plan to create more articles, you can always ask for feedback on the relevant forums as you already did with this one (which is how we found it), and also you can come join the WP:LGBTQ+ WikiProject where you can post on the talk page to attract other editors interested in the space.
- Happy editing :) Raladic (talk) 15:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll do it. One more thing, have you considered becoming a new page reviewer so that creating trans-related pages will go smoother? I don't have enough experience and so I'm not fit for the role, at least at this time. Antitransphobe (talk) 15:15, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think as it stands the article should be ready for review, so you can probably go ahead and submit it :) Raladic (talk) 14:57, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Introduction to contentious topics
You have recently edited a page related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them, a topic designated as contentious. This is a brief introduction to contentious topics and does not imply that there are any issues with your editing.
A special set of rules applies to certain topic areas, which are referred to as contentious topics. These are specially designated topics that tend to attract more persistent disruptive editing than the rest of the project and have been designated as contentious topics by the Arbitration Committee. When editing a contentious topic, Misplaced Pages’s norms and policies are more strictly enforced, and Misplaced Pages administrators have special powers in order to reduce disruption to the project.
Within contentious topics, editors should edit carefully and constructively, refrain from disrupting the encyclopedia, and:
- adhere to the purposes of Misplaced Pages;
- comply with all applicable policies and guidelines;
- follow editorial and behavioural best practice;
- comply with any page restrictions in force within the area of conflict; and
- refrain from gaming the system.
Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics procedures you may ask them at the arbitration clerks' noticeboard or you may learn more about this contentious topic here. You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the {{Ctopics/aware}} template. Void if removed (talk) 08:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC)