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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

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• To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:

  {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
  

  This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
• If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
• If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

Technical requests

Uncontroversial technical requests

• Battle of Paštrik → Battle of Pashtrik (currently a redirect back to Battle of Paštrik) (move · discuss) – Current name of the mountain the battle was fought around has been Pashtrik since 2021; name of the battle should be renamed accordingly. ZionniThePeruser (talk) 20:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

  @ZionniThePeruser As the battle itself happened before the renaming, this would need evidence that the battle itself is now commonly spelling "Pashtrik" in reliable sources. --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 21:12, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Sanumá language (currently a redirect to Sanöma language) → Sanöma language (move · discuss) – Actually spelled by Sanöma by the speakers themselves, and also by linguists. Sanumá is the Spanish-language rendition. I am the creator of the Sanöma language redirect. Similar diacritics are already used for Yanomamö language and Ỹaroamë language. — Sagotreespirit () 23:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Requests to revert undiscussed moves

• List of Re:Zero anime series is invalid. Must create List of Re:Zero anime series before requesting that it be moved to List of Re:Zero episodes.– Pretty self-explanatory if you check out the article. GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 10:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

@GalaxyFighter55 any technical issues stopping you from moving the article back yourself? – robertsky (talk) 10:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

• Irish Republic (unrecognised state) (currently a redirect to Irish Republic) → Irish Republic (move) – Undiscussed/controversial move. Which, given previous move discussions (which were not uncontroversial and were not undertaken), wasn't appropriate for a WP:BOLDMOVE. And, frankly, given that the moving editor was previously advised/reminded of related norms (including WP:ARBCOM/TROUBLES and WP:AE) the moving editor should have opened a thread before moving and retargeting this title. Regardless. (IE: Even if they had overlooked or otherwise been unaware of the previous/unsuccessful move discussion, they shouldn't have automatically considered that this would be an "uncontroversial" move). Guliolopez (talk) 13:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Contested technical requests

• Isa bin Ibrahim → Isa Ibrahim (currently a redirect back to Isa bin Ibrahim) (move · discuss) – Standardisation of Malay names, no need for disambiguation Pangalau (talk) 05:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  Is there any sourcing to support this move? Those that I can see seem to call him "Isa bin Ibrahim"  — Amakuru (talk) 09:37, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Amakuru, Pangalau Google ngrams shows a preference in the last 30 years for "Isa Ibrahim", but I'm not sure if there are other individuals by that name that might be getting picked up (although the trend for "Isa Ibrahim" starts before Andrew Ibrahim was born). --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 13:25, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Ahecht: I mean yes, you only need to click through to the results underpinning the ngram to see that almost all of them pertain to someone other than this individual. In fact, I haven't yet found any source that omits the bin, but perhaps there could be some. Either way I don't think the common name is that.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Amakuru Fair enough. I had assumed at first glance that that was recentism, but when I actually tried just filtering to 20th century sources the results for "Isa Ibrahim" mostly seem to originate from Nigeria, not Brunei. --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 17:20, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Ahecht: To my knowledge, the only other biography with this similar name is Andrew Ibrahim. Additionally, the redirection from Isa Ibrahim was initially made for Andrew, but was later changed to Isa. There could be other people in the world with that same name but might not be notable enough to have an article written about them. Bruneian news website tend not to exclude the individual's status and rank therefore it could be used as it does not fit the standardization naming convention of Malay names on Misplaced Pages. An example would be Anwar Ibrahim. Pangalau (talk) 13:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  "Isa Ibrahim" was used by the OECD in their publication, Economic Outlook for Southeast Asia, China and India 2019, the Russian embassy in Brunei and National Archives of Singapore. Pangalau (talk) 13:39, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

• register (keyword) → Register (keyword) (move · discuss) – No need for lower case title, cf. Static (keyword). Rodney Baggins (talk) 13:35, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Rodney Baggins: The title is not actually lowercase. It displays as such because of the {{lowercase title}} template. You can remove it and it will display with a capital letter. C F A 💬 13:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

  Which sources use anything other than an lower case title? Not only is it not upper case, it is usually formatted as <code>register</code> by sources. 70.50.89.179 (talk) 01:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Emmasofia → Psynapse (currently a redirect instead to List of Inhumans) (move · discuss) – Company has changed its name, current Psynapse article is just a redirect to a list of minor comic characters with no inbound links. Belbury (talk) 12:41, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

@Belbury It doesn’t appear that the Oslo company is the primary topic based on page views. Currently Psynapse and Psynapse (comics) combined have about as many page views as Emmasofia. So per WP:NOPRIMARY instead we can establish a DAB page at the base name by moving the current Psynapse to Psynapse (comics) (to preserve the page history as the base name article used to be an article before it was merged and turned into a redirect, so we need to preserve its history) and then link to the existing comic redirect and create a new page for the Oslo organization at Psynapse (organization) Raladic (talk) 21:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

• Anti-ballistic missile → Anti–ballistic missile (currently a redirect back to Anti-ballistic missile) (move · discuss) – Per MOS:PREFIXDASH. A redirect already exists at that name. — DocWatson42 (talk) 13:00, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

  @DocWatson42: It's not at all clear to me that the anti- is attached to "ballistic missile" rather than "ballistic", i.e., that it should be treated as "anti–ballistic missile " rather than "anti-ballistic missile". It's also spelled as antiballistic missile, which suggests that a hyphen would be more correct. This move is potentially controversial, so it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 22:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

  I'm sorry—the spelling is "anti-ballistic missile" throughout the article, but upon checking I found that you are correct—the correct spelling is "antiballistic missile", at least in American English. The Cambridge Dictionary does not list any of the variations. (I only just noticed your link to the Encyclopædia Britannica.) I infer from your comment that I need to start a new move request, rather than changing this one, in order to move the article to "antiballistic missile"—is that correct? —DocWatson42 (talk) 22:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

  @DocWatson42 I SilverLocust was saying that it needs a full discussion (which you can open by clicking the "discuss" link in your request above) rather than just a technical request. --Ahecht (TALK
  PAGE) 21:11, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

  Sorry, DocWatson42, I meant to respond sooner. I'm also not very keen on moving it to Antiballistic missile, given recent Google Ngrams data and the seemingly consistent titling with Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and titles like Anti-ship missile, Anti-radiation missile, Anti-tank guided missile, Anti-submarine missile, Anti-ship ballistic missile, etc. (So not without a full discussion please.) SilverLocust 💬 07:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

• The Ambassador's Daughter (1956 film) → The Ambassador's Daughter (move · discuss) – Swapping two pages; new page was originally a disambiguation page but the other article mentioned does not have an article, making the new page the rightful article for the 1956 film. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@MimirIsSmart Per WP:PRIMARYRED the blue link is not necessarily the primary topic. C F A 💬 15:05, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Draft:O'Dessa (film) (currently a redirect to O'Dessa) → O'Dessa (film) (currently a redirect instead to O'Dessa) (move · discuss) – Film is already in post-production KingArti (talk) 21:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC) KingArti (talk) 21:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@KingArti Not sure this qualifies as uncontroversial. It looks like a Draft for this existed at the current redirect, which it appears you contributed to, so likely a WP:HISTMERGE from an administrator would be required for this different Draft article to replace the current article. Also given that the redirect itself was PROD'ed and then redirected, this Draft itself might want to go through AfC to ensure it actually meets notability now, unless you want to see if someone nominates it for AfD by direct publishing instead (but again, the histmerge would be required nonetheless. Raladic (talk) 23:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Scott Point (Northland) → Scott Point (move · discuss) – Unnecessary disambiguation. Scott Point is a redirect that does not directly mention Scott Point, it only mentions a 'Scott Point School' once. Once move is done I will add a hatnote about Hobsonville to the article. There is also Endeavour_Inlet#Scott_Point but once again a hatnote would be better here as only one subject has it's own article. Traumnovelle (talk) 23:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@Traumnovelle There is also Scott Point site for the archeological site near Scott Point, Michigan. So it actually looks like there's 3 potential Scott Point articles (albeit as you pointed out, the Hobsonville one just being a redirect for the referenced School), so it sounds like a WP:DAB at the base might be more appropriate. Traffic between all 3 is pretty low, but also it looks like the reason for the current redirect to point to where it does was as there is contention whether Scott Point (Northland) is the primary topic by usage as it was moved away from Scott Point intentionally here by another user. Raladic (talk) 00:12, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose speedy move instead create a dab page per Raladic -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 02:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Administrator needed