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Are the Telegram app store bans notable?

I've noticed that Tommy Robinson's Telegram channel and group have been app store banned, but i don't know if there are any independent reliable sources for that. Can someone find some reliable independent sources on this fact? If so, state it in this article. 67.209.130.66 (talk) 08:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

I can't find anything about app store bans, though it was reported in March 2024 that Apple and Android mobile users' access to Robinson's Telegram channel had been blocked (source). I have added a sentence to the Social media bans section. Paul W (talk) 10:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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Source 262 is inactive. (Bailey, Luke (14 July 2018). "This hardline US conservative think tank says it's funding Tommy Robinson rallies in the UK". iNews. Archived from the original on 14 April 2019. Retrieved 14 April 2019.) 108.21.229.252 (talk) 03:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

 Done Marked link as dead - FifthFive (talk) 06:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Solitary confinement

HMP Woodill making Tommy visitors sign non-disclosure agreement contracts. https://x.com/Lewis_Brackpool/status/1875493505214362103 https://x.com/Lewis_Brackpool/status/1875573701644898482

Interesting to see that someone who critizises radical islamists and child exploitation has to be protected in prison from attacks. Do we know who the possible attackers are? Any analysis from our "trusted sources" perhaps? 2A02:3031:211:580E:E56D:E928:8457:573 (talk) 10:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Naming any attackers in the article would be contrary to WP:BLP and sub judice. Even naming them here would serve no useful purpose. I suggest this thread by hatted as WP:FORUM. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

ad 1) Solitary confinment is a quite radical measure and it should be in the interest of the public, and by extension Misplaced Pages, why this measure is necessary. My question is simply whether there has been any public analysis into this which could be included in this article. This has *nothing* to do with publishing "my own thoughts and analysis". The question is obvious. ad 2) I am not suggesting to name individuals but groups which may have an interest to attack Robinson 2A02:3031:211:580E:A917:DCA5:37E1:7468 (talk) 10:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

You said: "Do we know who the possible attackers are?" How do we even know that there are "groups which may have an interest to attack Robinson", rather than random individuals who have a grudge against him? Furthermore, I don't believe that the internal policies of individual HM prisons are necessarily open to public scrutiny and debate. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

We are not investigative journalists. We do not do Original Research. If any Reliable Sources have written about this then this might be worth including but without sources it would just be us making stuff up and we are absolutely not allowed to do that. Given the obviously false framing of the question, I'm not even sure how serious this question is. We should not waste any further time on this unless some plausibly valid sources are suggested. --DanielRigal (talk) 12:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Of course, it could be that Robinson is under threat from pickpockets from Brighton, but the Independent has this daring idea: "Given his Islamophobic rhetoric, Robinson is likely to be kept separate from any Islamist prisoners." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-hmp-belmarsh-far-right-b2637364.html 2A02:3031:201:6976:DC87:7A78:BD9A:DDEC (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, thus we can say he is in solitary, and why. What we can't do is do into any details. Slatersteven (talk) 13:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Don't worry, no one actually expects Misplaced Pages to notice the elephant in the room, namely that the UK has problems to protect a non-violent offender, like Robinson, from radical-islamic elemnts in their prison system. See Independent article above. 2A02:3031:201:6976:DC87:7A78:BD9A:DDEC (talk) 09:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Independent article relates to his brief stay in HMP Belmarsh. He is no longer an inmate there. Paul W (talk) 09:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Robinson is a "non-violent offender"? The article says:

• In April 2005 at Luton Crown Court, Robinson was convicted of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and assault with intent to resist arrest against an off-duty police officer in July 2004. He received sentences of 12 months and 3 months.
• In 2003 he was convicted of assaulting an off-duty police officer in a drunken argument for which he served a 12-month prison sentence.
• In 2011 Robinson was convicted of common assault after headbutting a fellow EDL member. He was given a 12-week jail term.

Martinevans123 (talk) 09:43, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, this obviously untrue "non-violent offender" nonsense is pretty much where I draw the line for considering Talk page content as trolling. If it wasn't for the fact that other people are making sensible points, which might actually lead to improvements to the article, I'd be rolling this whole section up citing WP:NOTFORUM and WP:DENY to discourage our anonymous friend from wasting any more of our time. --DanielRigal (talk) 14:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I was tempted to offer to add a link to pickpockets from Brighton. No objections to you hatting this thread, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, he is in protective custody rather than "solitary confinement" (the latter term is not used in the UK prison system - "segregation" is the preferred, and perhaps less emotive, term). Paul W (talk) 14:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, the article mentions "care and separation unit", so maybe that phrase should be pipe linked? But that's probably as far as we need to go. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes. That's a phrase that many British readers, and almost all non-British readers, will not understand without further explanation. If we can link it to an explanation then that will make it easy for them to find out if they want to. --DanielRigal (talk) 14:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I have expanded the protective custody article to include a section about segregation facilities in England and Wales prisons, and updated the "care and separation unit" wikilink from the Robinson article so that it points to the relevant section. (Also no objections to this thread being hatted). Paul W (talk) 15:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

EDL image

Image is used @ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Tommy_Robinson Caption reads "Robinson with EDL demonstrators in Amsterdam in 2010" I make out a minimum of 12 people represented in the image. 4 or 5 could be the subject of the photo. Not sure the others pictured deserve to be associated, but I'll allow that's been settled. I simply think it should be clear why this image is featured in this article, and if the subject of the article is pictured, specify which person is the subject. If others can be identified, that should be clear also. 8.3.49.6 (talk) 01:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

It is clear to me which of those people is Robinson. A glance at the lead image confirms it. The photo of Robinson in Amsterdam is to illustrate the European Defence League which is an offshoot of the English Defence League. You can suggest a better caption if you wish. Cullen328 (talk) 02:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Caption amended. Paul W (talk) 10:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

"Mortgage Fraud" case

https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1876226815238283755 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.30.15.99 (talk) 13:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

This is not an RS. Slatersteven (talk) 14:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

What? It has come straight from the person himself. So yes it is a very reliable source. If only state BBC propaganda is allowed, and no one is allowed to explain themselves what has happened, we're all screwed. 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Read wp:rs, and no his claim is not proof its true (after all what is his real name?). He pled guilty, and as such he is guilty, whatever he now says. Slatersteven (talk) 14:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

It coming from the person is exactly why it's not a reliable source. See WP:PRIMARY. — Czello 14:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

But no leftist legacy media will dare write an article about it because it would SUPPORT everything that Tommy has claimed. And they can't have that can they? So they ignore it, as have you. I just want you ignorant people to be aware of it, that's all. Good day!🙂 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

The article says this: "In November 2012, Robinson was charged with three counts of conspiracy to commit fraud by misrepresentation in relation to a mortgage application, along with five other defendants. He pleaded guilty to two charges and in January 2014 was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment." It's all fully sourced. What's to discuss? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Suggest you watch the video and educate yourself properly then.🙂 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

What are you going to do? Delete it? Censor it? The lid has blown off this, the can of worms has been opened mate. There's no way on Earth you'll get them all back in the tin now mi'laddio. 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Untill RS talks about it there is. Slatersteven (talk) 14:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

The trouble is that all your "reliable sources" as you call them rather conveniently fail to disclose ANY highly relevant background information that supports Tommy. Funny that eh? 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Where's all this "relevant background information"? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

"What's to discuss?" Well why don't you watch the video and you'll find out what's to discuss. He made a plea deal. He was blackmailed into it by the police. But I guess you don't want to get red-pilled. So stay in the matrix then, go on. 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Ah, I see. What independent evidence is there to corroborate that claim? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

None. There is only Tommy's word against everyone else's. That's why he's had an uphill battle for at least the last 10 years or so. It's not fair, but there it is. 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

So you are suggesting we add information which, by your own admission, has no evidence other than the word of a person for whom it would be beneficial? Seriously? — Czello 14:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Not just uphill, I fear. But doomed to fail. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

When RS talk about this claim we can until then there is nothing to discuss, so I will stop with a firm no. It reamains no until I say otherwise. Slatersteven (talk) 14:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't care what you say. Some of us are highly educated research professionals. And we know more about Tommy than you ever will. So there! 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I'd have thought "highly educated research professionals" know better than to take Tommy's word for it. — Czello 14:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Look, I'll have you know I have not one but FOUR tertiary degrees okay. One of them is a PhD. I'm probably more educated than you. Alright? I suggest you watch the video I posted and learn something. 203.30.15.99 (talk) 14:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, it's quite apparent that you don't care. I'm intrigued to know which professional research body has decided to employ you. As you are so highly educated and that. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Change "one of the UK's most prominent far-right activists" to "one of the UK's most prominent activists" unless there is an actual source that mentions why he is far-right (if so, leave it as is and change citation #4 to something that provides evidence). I don't doubt that he is, but citation #4 only claims that he is without any evidence (which I was looking for when clicking on the citation to hopefully have an article explaining why he's far-right, but didn't see any evidence) and would not be a valid source for such a claim. It's like taking the title of a news article calling someone a name and using that as a citation to say that they are that thing; it doesn't make sense. Thanks editors. 66.227.235.46 (talk) 04:09, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

The Irish Times is a reliable source and is perfectly adequate to verify this assertion. In just the last two days, reliable sources like the Washington Post, the BBC and the New York Times have described Robinson as "far right". Cullen328 (talk) 04:22, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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It is not accurate to describe Tommy Robinson as anti-Islam, which brings this page into disrepute. He is anti-Islamist and that is significantly different. He has publically stated this many times. 188.77.234.6 (talk) 19:06, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Source needed as well as format change. Appreciate your good faith. (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 19:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Where have you seen this article as being "in disrepute"? I see that the word anti-Islam is a piped link to Islamophobia. The Anti-Islam DAB page has five possible meanings. But looking at the References section here, four say "Anti-Islam" and one says "Ani-Islamic", but none says "Anti-Islamist"? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:17, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

I think you replied to the wrong comment. I also think the tone may come across a little harsh. (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 20:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I intended to reply to this one. I was trying to clarify the range of relevant articles that exist. If you could point out where my tone is "a little harsh", I will gladly adjust. Although I note this request is now closed. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

On second look, nothing is wrong- just a misinterpretation. (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 20:40, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

He actually had a muslim lawyer until very recently, so no he is not anti-islam, nor anti-muslim. Anti-islamist at most. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.30.15.99 (talk) 05:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

That's WP:OR. We say what the sources say, and they say anti-Islam. — Czello 08:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

His lawyer? Did you mean this: "Tommy Robinson ‘sacked’ by Muslim tax advisor for ‘stoking far-right riots’"? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Why isn’t the term rape gang used?

Jk Rowling has a point. This article uses the term “grooming” gang. 198.91.180.173 (talk) 03:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Is that the same "point" as Mr Musk seems so keen to make? This edit has just changed "Huddersfield grooming gang" to "Huddersfield sex abuse ring". Martinevans123 (talk) 09:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Re that edit: The Huddersfield article title is now consistent with others on similar topics (eg: Halifax and Rochdale child sex abuse ring). While the term 'grooming' has been widely used by reliable sources reporting these cases, sexual grooming is child sexual abuse. Paul W (talk) 10:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Weasel words

The expression "It is understood that" is a weasel word, and furthermore the statement is not sourced. I'm surprised this is accepted in such a high-profile article.

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