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Racing Bulls move discussion

Started a move discussion for Racing Bulls Formula One Team to Racing Bulls. Also may be worth discussing whether we should retroactively refer to the team as "Racing Bulls", when its previous name was simply an initialism of it, to reduce reader confusion. MB2437 19:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

On that second point, depends on the context. I would suggest, where an article is clearly 2024 oriented, why bother? There is no confusion if we are consistently using "RB" within an article. The only confusion is where we switch between the two (within an artice) without clarify they are equivilant. SSSB (talk) 21:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I meant, I agree "RB" should be retained for all 2024 season articles. MB2437 21:40, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for 2015 Australian Grand Prix

2015 Australian Grand Prix has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Assistance with the history of race directors

Hi, I am currently working on a draft about race directors in motorsport. Race directors play a large role in F1, and I am unable to find anything online about race directors prior to 1988. If you know anything, even if it is unsourced, please let me know. The one lead I have is based on this source (), which implies that the position did not exist under the FIA prior to 1988, but I cannot find anything backing it up.

Expansion of the draft would also be greatly appreciated, in addition to reformatting the table (it doesn't look right to me, but I don't know how else to improve it). Thanks in advance! GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 16:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Can I join this group? I really want to, and I'm an F1 nerd.

Hello. Can I please join this group? I really want to participate in this F1 project. Thanks. 2603:8000:99F0:93A0:9932:FB79:1D30:444B (talk) 17:51, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Of course. Anyone is welcome to join. You don't need to apply SSSB (talk) 18:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Race entry lists

Sossimon has been adding entry list to some of the 1950s F1 race reports, e.g. 1955 Argentine Grand Prix#Entries. Are we in favour of this? If so, I'll make some corrections (e.g. "Tire"-->"Tyre"). But I didn't want to invest the effort if they're just going to be deleted. DH85868993 (talk) 11:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm pretty certain the consensus is that the articles should all just link to the respective season articles where the list of entries can be found there. As a general rule the list of entries can just be deduced from the classification tables anyway so it's largely redundant. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

That’s correct for modern seasons and the discussion that achieved the consenus you refer to only really dealt with that. In the earlier decades of the sport though, entries actually happened on a race-by-race basis and drives that had entered never even arriving at the track were rather common occurences. So the consensus can’t be applied in the same way for the earlier seasons. Tvx1 23:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

We had a discussion about this in 2019, which was a firm consensus against. But (from memory), the rational was that the entries stayed the same throughout the calendar year (ie the same driver enter all the rounds) this wasn't the case as much in the 50s. So we might want to have a broader discussion that in 2019 (which was specifically about 2019 rounds) SSSB (talk) 15:03, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I say remove them. They appear to be OR additions and aren’t sourced at all. The example you linked to has drivers in the results table that are missing in the entry list. Tvx1 23:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I'll go out on a limb here and say that we should be adding these entry lists to all seasons up until season-long entries became dominant (which would be the '80s?). Readers shouldn't have to cross-reference the race report with the season article, and a classification table is not necessarily a complete representation of the entry list and has important limitations (e.g. not specifying equipment used). Entries were very fluid and informal for the first few decades of F1 and we should be making this as easy and explicit for readers as we can. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 23:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I agree that well sourced entry lists should be added for eras where season-long entries were not dominant. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:30, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Ferrari as engine manufacturer

Has Ferrari (or Scuderia Ferrari?) their own and named engine manufacturer unit or company like Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains owned by Mercedes-Benz? I have never seen the name of it. Eurohunter (talk) 23:50, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

• That might be known internally as a matter of corporate structure but I don't believe they maintain a separate business for the engine and chassis/sporting team like the other engine constructors. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 23:56, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Don’t think so. Ferrari has always been in the sport with their own team and supplying engines to other teams has never been more than a side-activity. Mercedes’ power unit business however strems from the period engine supplyiing was their sole activity in the sport. Tvx1 15:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

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