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| {{unblock reviewed|1=What just happened? I just got unbanned yesterday, and now I'm banned again, and Jpgordon is saying that I'm Two-Sixteen. There was no checkuser or anything!|decline=actually there was a checkuser; {{user|Jpgordon}} has checkuser access and flagged Two-Sixteen as your sockpuppet. Sockpuppeting at the discussion of lifting the ban on your main account despite your history of sockpuppetry? Not such a good idea Flameviper. It's a pity too because it appeared that the community was willing to give you one more chance. — ] 14:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)}} | |||
| I never made an "abusive sockpuppet". Two-Sixteen never would have been banned if you thought he was a different person than me. It may as well have been another person. | |||
| Can someone tell me what's going on here? One minute, everything's peachy, and the next, I'm perma-banned again. | |||
| ⚫ | :Why should my treatment as Two-Sixteen have differed from my treatment as Flameviper? | ||
| I didn't even want to edit anything, I just wanted to tell everyone I was leaving, put a message on my user/talk pages, and be gone. | |||
| This is utter madness. | |||
| Someone, an admin or something, put this on your watchlist, I'd like to have an actual conversation... | |||
| ~ '''<font color="CC0000">]</font><font color="009900">]</font><font color="00CC00">]</font><font color="009900">]</font>''' 14:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :Okay...fine. I did it. I made a sockpuppet. | |||
| :But is there really any harm in it? | |||
| :I was Two-Sixteen. I tried to keep as low a profile as I could. | |||
| :My plan was to never reveal anything about Flameviper. In fact, I never wanted this account to be unblocked. I was going to edit constructively, be nice and eventually nominate myself for adminship. | |||
| :Once I was a sysop, I would do normal administrator tasks for a while, to show that I was for real. | |||
| :Then, finally, I would reveal that I was Flameviper. When that happened, everyone would see that I could do something worthwhile, and that I wasn't just a banned user. | |||
| :But a hitch developed in my plan! Flameviper was unblocked! | |||
| :I intended to simply leave Misplaced Pages with the Flameviper account (as was the original intent) and proceed editing constructively with Two-Sixteen. | |||
| :I couldn't foul this one up. It was my last chance! | |||
| :But with my new, familiar account came a complacency of mind, one which I cannot forgive myself for. I started making larger and larger errors in my separation of the two accounts... and that was the end... | |||
| :But the real question is whether it matters. Who cares if I am Two-Sixteen? I don't. I was making good edits! Didn't you see? But the techincalities of the situation are like snares and twisting cords. They swallowed me in my entirety. | |||
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| :That difference in treatment, my friends, is why I was banned. | :That difference in treatment, my friends, is why I was banned. | ||
| :I never did anything that was outright evil. I never made personal attacks, I didn't vandalise anything, I didn't violate 3RR or any of the other infinite rules. | :I never did anything that was outright evil. I never made personal attacks, I didn't vandalise anything, I didn't violate 3RR or any of the other infinite rules. | ||
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I never made an "abusive sockpuppet". Two-Sixteen never would have been banned if you thought he was a different person than me. It may as well have been another person.
- Why should my treatment as Two-Sixteen have differed from my treatment as Flameviper?
- That difference in treatment, my friends, is why I was banned.
- I never did anything that was outright evil. I never made personal attacks, I didn't vandalise anything, I didn't violate 3RR or any of the other infinite rules.
- All I did was say something to Elaragirl. On her talk page.
- At the top of her talk page, IN BRIGHT RED LETTERS NO LESS, was a notice from Elaragirl that basically stated that on her talk page, one could be less constrained than normally.
- So I went ahead and spoke my mind. I told her that we were either going to get along or not get along, basically. And that's what I meant. It wasn't intended to be a "personal attack" and both of us acknowledged that. I e-mailed her later on and apoligized for being rude, and she basically told be that it was no big deal and that she didn't mind.
- But it doesn't matter whether I actually violated a rule or not. Metros, who had been riding my ass for the last month or so, seized the opportunity to attack me for the "violation of policy". Techincally, it was a violation of policy, but it wasn't really; the same way that lending someone your money isn't the same as being robbed.
- If Metros hadn't been riding my ass for the month previous to that, I never would have been banned. It's as simple as that; when you try to find fault in someone, you will do so.
- So after a few months of silent reflection that I had imposed upon myself, I decided to start again. I had tried to contact the administrators through every other avenue; my talk page, e-mail, the mailing list, everything. My talk page was locked for "unblock abuse" even though I was just trying to have a conversation. My e-mails to administrators were ignored. The mailing list was of no help whatsoever.
- I had no choice but to create a sockpuppet.
~ Flameviper 14:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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