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Hi everyone.

Lolololol. ICAPTCHA 17:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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Just for the sake of clarification...are you saying on your user page and here that you're running a bot? Into The Fray /C 02:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

• Somewhat, it's a semi-bot on this account. I am using TW, along with popups and a few macros to check, usually while I'm browsing on another window. ACTool is pretty useful for macros, and it gets the job done. Never really had the time to code an actual fully automated bot. ICAPTCHA 02:51, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I think I understand. I just want to make sure (for your sake) that you're not running anything that would be considered an unauthorized, unassisted bot. Do you have to review edits/reversions before they are saved? Into The Fray /C 03:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

• Yes. ICAPTCHA 03:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha! Thanks. Into The Fray /C 03:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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False alarm.

Hello, I am one of the people who occasionally uses a machine with a public IP of 67.90.197.194. Recently, I read Objectivity (philosophy) and noticed that it was flagged as needing a total rewrite and attention from an expert. As it happens, I am an expert, so I gave it my attention, making bold edits to remove an accumulation of text that, even charitably, can only be called nonsense.

I carefully erased only the very worst parts, fixing what I could, and left clear edit comments to explain my intentions. I am absolutely certain that a human being familiar with philosophy would recognize my edits as constructive, even if they disagreed with certain aspects. Unfortunately, your bot is only capable of recognizing that material was deleted, so it mistakenly flagged me as a vandal. I encourage you to look at my actual edits and see for yourself that they are not only constructive but badly needed. The article is a terrible mess, and the first step to remediation is to remove the erroneous portions.

What can I do to stop your bot from reverting my efforts? 67.90.197.194 18:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

• You are blanking out large amounts of pages as seen on your contributions page. Your "clear edit comments" consist of "I removed ______" ICAPTCHA 18:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
• Also, I am not the only one reverting your edits. ICAPTCHA 18:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Since the article is marked as needing a total rewrite by an expert, I would imagine that any erroneous text is fair game for removal. As you say, most of my edit comments consisted of correctly identifying was was deleted and explaining why. Here is the list, in reverse order:

• Removed an entire section of postmodernism.
• Removed a pair of statements that are false.
• Removed meaningless sentence.
• The entire paragraph is meaningless.
• Removed more postmodernist anti-objectivism.
• Removed uncited, doubtful statement.
• Structuralism is postmodern and therefore entirely opposed to objectivism. It does not belong here.
• Removed postmodernistic bias from heading. This article really does need a full rewrite.

As you can see, the general pattern is that this article on philosophical (epistemological) objectivity suffers from being written almost entirely from the extremely hostile perspective of postmodernist skepticism. While there is certainly a place for criticism, it must not violate NPOV by dominating the article and it must cite reliable sources. Otherwise, it needs to be removed.

If you disagree with any of these reasons or just find them incomplete, I think the appropriate response would be to question my basis in talk:Objectivity (philosophy), where I would be glad to explain at length. I believe that each of these removals was justified and constructive, and look forward to the opportunity to support my actions. Even if you disagree with each of them, I think you must |assume good faith by accepting my assurance that my motives were constructive and that no vandalism was intended.

Please understand that I am addressing this to you because you are responsible for the first reversion and for all but one of the rest. I can only assume that Diniz was following your lead, since this person has made no attempt to contact me. Would you like to discuss these changes in detail in the appropriate forum? 67.90.197.194 19:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC)