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Giants-Dodgers Rivalry

That's what the rivalry should say, not "S.F. Giants vs. L.A. Dodgers". It should follow the informal "standard" used with these: Yankees-Red Sox Rivalry and White Sox-Cubs rivalry. I think some anon set it up that way. I will probably move it sometime in the next few days, if no one else does. d:) Wahkeenah 17:56, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Any objections to renaming the article? Wahkeenah 13:51, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Dodgers

Great work on the Dodgers article. Keep it up! --Dysepsion 07:31, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, but I find the wording confusing. Moses' plan was not "realized" until 1964, when Shea Stadium was opened. And the Mets themselves were not Moses' plan as such, just the ballpark... in conjunction with the 1964-65 World's Fair, whose plan was also Moses', as I recall, and of which Shea Stadium was a part, albeit on the other side of the tracks from it. Wahkeenah 18:22, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Looks good now. :) Wahkeenah 05:14, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Vin Scully

I didn't write that part. I saw it, and wondered what the point was. Scully's not an independent commentator. He's paid by the ball club. They hand him a script that talks about upcoming games, he's expected to read it. End of story. Anyone who didn't know about the impending strike was an "ignoranimous". And right up to the last day, people were at least hopeful it could be averted. So I think whoever wrote that either has something against Vin Scully or more likely wasn't around at the time and doesn't know that the strike was not necessarily a foregone conclusion. Wahkeenah 05:14, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry if I was unclear, but I meant to address the second part of that message to the user who had added that paragraph. I agree with your assessment, and would not mind if you wanted to remove it. --BlueMoonlet 05:46, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

I realized that later. It was late after a long working weekend. :) Regarding the Scully comments you beat me to it, and that's fine. And you improved the stuff I added about the ballparks and the nicknames. Good work.

Ithaca, NY. Don't they have a waterfall there, possibly right on campus? Wahkeenah 11:54, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Playoff Appearances

One down and twenty-nine to go. That user "FPAtl" took it upon himself to do that redundant entry on every one of the major league baseball sites. Wahkeenah 17:17, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

DYK controversy

Hi. I've never really been involved in any decency/censorship debate before; I just got drawn into this one accidentally because I have Talk:Main page on my watchlist and I pretty regularly check the main page for poorly-worded entries. I don't actually care that much about the issue, I just get annoyed by smug self-righteousness (which where decency/censorship is concerned can be found on both sides of the debate). If you want to start a policy discussion on Talk:Main page you can try; but I doubt you'll get anywhere. Cheers. Doops | talk 19:06, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Cheese edit

"...although an alternate source for "cheesy" may be the practice of "saying 'cheese'" (see below) while smiling for a photograph — an essentially phony act."

That sounds good and I like it; do you have a source? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:23, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't. In fact, it was an original thought of my own, occurring to me as I contemplated my son's "cheesy" smile in pictures. I've seen a website or two in which the smelly cheese theory is proposed, but it seems to me that they're guessing as much as I am. --BlueMoonlet 01:30, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

That's too bad. I took it out, per Misplaced Pages:No original research. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:44, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Conceded that my theory is only common-sense speculation, with no scholarly backing, but is the smelly theory any different? The answer may be yes, but I'm interested in it. All I find on Google is some guy who may or may not know what he's talking about, and admits that the answer is uncertain. If I wrote a non-Misplaced Pages page of my own with my theory, would it no longer be unpublished research? I won't try to revert, but I'm curious. --BlueMoonlet 05:48, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, I came across the smelly theory here , in the linguistic page cited at the end of the paragraph. The answers to your questions, I think, are subtle arguments involving good-faith attempts to really not do original research. It's true that I can't claim the page I'm pointing to has solid scholarly backing or proof (hence the waffle-word "might" in the Cheese article). But I didn't have any theory in mind regarding the origin of cheesy when I came across that page; I wasn't fishing to justify a personally-held theory. (I was actually researching "Big Cheese" at the time) and so I felt that it was reasonable to include that information in the article; the source certainly seemed to be more of an expert on slang than myself.

Putting your own page out there and then citing it would, intuitively, be a bad-faith act unless if you did some heavy research and cited some primary sources in that page, or if that page were (somehow) to go through scholarly or scientific peer-review (something unlikely to happen for this topic, I admit.) Then you also get into the topic of what kind of things are "valid" sources - a quagmire in shades of gray that tries to judge the authority of a particular site, magazine, or book.

Even when you are writing something perfectly obvious to yourself in wikipedia, it's always better to find (and cite) a source. One reason is to impress everyone else around here :-) Another reason is to fact-check. And a third reason, my favorite, is that you can learn a lot doing the research.

Sort of an aside, but it occurred to me that it should be researchable at least whether the slang "cheesy" was in use before or after "say cheese." If before, it immediately discredits the say cheese theory as the primary etymology. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 15:43, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough. --BlueMoonlet 00:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

LugerDoesntKnow (et al) report on WP:RFI

Think I've now blocked all the accounts involved (including, but not limited to, the ones you reported). Please do report any others you come across. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Petros471 10:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Well if just one or two articles are being hit you can request page protection, but other than that I think we generally block accounts as they appear. That sort of report is fine for RFI, though now an established trend has been shown you might want to try WP:AIV, with a note explaining many previous socks have been blocked for same edits (to stop the report being removed because of lack of warnings or similar reason). You can also message me if you see I'm online, as again I know the pattern now so will block on sight. Btw, all those accounts have already been blocked by others. Cheers, Petros471 19:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually on second thoughts it might be possible to request a checkuser (another shortcut: WP:RFCU) and if an underlying IP is being used by all accounts have it blocked. However, that won't work if the user is using a dynamic IP ISP. Petros471 19:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Starting a line with an asterisk

Try doing an edit here and look at the following:

*This line starts with an asterisk...

Enjoy!  :) —Wknight94 (talk) 16:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! --BlueMoonlet 21:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Caltech Hovses

Hi, BlueMoonlet!

I'm a Lloydie, and I've taken an interest in the article about the student hovses. I notice that you did the lion's share of the work when the present article was created by merging seven separate articles into one. So I have a few questions for you.

• In recent discussions, there is some support for moving the general information (about rotation, and the evolution of the current house system) from the end of the article nearer the beginning (so the sections about the individual houses would come last). Do you have an opinion one way or the other on that?
• Do you want to be involved in any significant restructuring of the article? Or are you more interested in other things now?
• Lately the images of Hovse crests have been disappearing (and sometimes reappearing) at an alarming rate. The image-bots keep complaining that copyright information is incomplete, or wrong, and the images get wiped out, but then they often get uploaded again in just a few days, sometimes by anonymous users with Caltech IP addresses. Was that happening when you were working on this article?

Please write back, either here or on my talk page. Thanks for your time, and have a great day! DavidCBryant 21:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi David. I do appreciate hearing from you. I really didn't introduce much content to the Hovses page; I learned that they were threatened with being deleted altogether, and took steps to move the debate in what I thought was the right direction. So I don't have much to add at this point, though I don't mind giving advice.  :) As someone who finds interest in the organization of Misplaced Pages pages, it seems to me that the Hovses page is good in its current configuration. Background and evolution of the current system are already at the beginning (perhaps they could be in a "Background" subsection), and more esoteric details like Rotation and memberships is towards the end. So I'd vote for the status quo on that point. --BlueMoonlet 01:27, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Invitation

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Your moves and mergers of territories

Thanks! I've been itching to do that for a while, but I've been a little hyperfocused on getting United States to FA. Again, thanks. Here's the notes I was keeping about the merge:

1. United States territory - unsourced, malformatted, largely redundant
2. United States territories - malformatted & incomplete dab page
3. Incorporated territory - largely redundant, half of article's a list
4. Organized incorporated territories of the United States - Largely redundant, esp with the below
5. Organized territory - Largely redundant, esp with the above
6. Unorganized territory - Only partially merge - Census section should be left as is, new page should be pointed to with template:for

There's still probably some good work to be done. Let me know if you need a hand. MrZaius 14:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, I think I'm about done for now. Perhaps what I've done will make the tasks you outline more tractable for you. More work can also be done to consolidate the text now thrown together in territories of the United States. My one comment on your list is organized incorporated territories of the United States. I created that page, and I think its list both is useful to have and belongs on its own page. I also just now created Unincorporated territories of the United States, which contains a timeline that was formerly on the main territories page. Another article you should be aware of is insular area. I have avoided this article because I don't understand the meaning of the term, though I think it may be synonymous with unincorporated territory and thus should also be folded into the main article. --BlueMoonlet 15:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I've done a bit more and found some more to do. Here is my set of points:

1. I think United States territory is interesting if it remains narrowly focused on the topic of what parts of the world are and are not under U.S. jurisdiction. But I don't mind being overruled by a more motivated person.
2. As I said, I think organized incorporated territories of the United States should remain, with its comprehensive list of such territories, their dates, and some more information that pertains specifically to them.
3. Here is yet another article: Commonwealth (United States insular area). This, along with insular area, should be incorporated into territories of the United States and/or unincorporated territories of the United States (if indeed the latter article with its timeline should remain separate).
4. I just found territorial acquisitions of the United States, which it seems should be merged with territorial evolution of the United States.
5. I also just found overseas expansion of the United States. This perhaps should remain, with unincorporated territories of the United States being merged into it.
6. Just to note, the other pages you mention are now redirects to territories of the United States.
7. Concerning unorganized territory, I don't think it should be a separate page from its plural. Better would be to create a page called Unorganized territory (U.S. Census) for the Census meaning, redirect unorganized territory into territories of the United States, and put a seealso there.

--BlueMoonlet 15:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Brandenburg Navy

Thanks for pointing that out BlueMoonlet, you must have looked very carefully at the article to spot that. The source for that particular piece of text is translated and then reworded from the corresponding article in the German Misplaced Pages; while other wikipedias are not allowed to be sourced, the note at the bottom allows people to know that some, techically unsourced information exists in the article. The corresponding German article was atypically verbose, and that part was something I found rather difficult to understand. Therefore, that particular piece of text which you see is my very best interpretation of the translation. However, since you dispute it, you should take a look at the German Misplaced Pages article about the subject. The link for the article can be found near the bottom, under the References section. I hope that you can perhaps understand it better than me, and maybe you will even be able to "translate" more of the article (parts I could not actually put into coherent English) to add to the en.Misplaced Pages. Thanks, and I hope I have adequately cleared the matter up. Anonymous Dissident 06:22, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Your Edits to House of Windsor

mmmmm. I think Paliament doesn't look very favorably at such "holding court". HMQ can call herself by any name she wants providing she gets approval from Parliament. HMQ certainly doesn't get that approval by "holding court". The whole paragraph is a nonsense. In 1917 George V, changed his name and that of all his decendants to Windsor by Act of Parliament. No need for "holding court" - the law says that all decendants of George V are Windsor. The only way of changing that is through repeal and a new act. Please consider edits to Misplaced Pages pages very seriously. I know that this particular paragraph has been copied from[REDACTED] several times and is just plain bullshit. Mike33 18:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Upon further research, I may have been mistaken about the Order-in-Council (I can't confirm it, other than from elsewhere in Misplaced Pages). However, the rest of the paragraph is certainly not nonsense. George V changed the name of his male descendants to Windsor. The fact that, under the usual rules, the house's name should change but will not is worth noting. --BlueMoonlet 19:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't want an edit war (i have sought clarification on the matter from buck ho. awaiting reply). I'm not a lawyer but male includes Charles (prince of wales) who was born before the queen ascended the throne. It is just mad to suggest that a decree overides parliament. Please dont repost the paragraph. Mike33 20:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I should have said George V changed the name of his descendants in the male line. Under the usual rules, Charles should have his father's surname, but he doesn't. That's my point. I see you haven't reverted my revised edit, and I hope you will not. --BlueMoonlet 20:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, now you have. Your claim that there was an act of Parliament in 1917 is unsourced, and the source I cited implies it is not true. You also need to support your argument that the change applied to all reigning monarchs and their descendants, rather than all agnatic (male-line) descendants of Queen Victoria, as my source states. I will give you some time to clarify the issue before I edit again. --BlueMoonlet 20:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

USUAL RULES? what usual rules? parliament decides what a king or queen can do. there are no usual rules. Mike33 20:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Um, the rule that a son takes his father's surname and is considered a member of his father's house. My questions to you still stand. --BlueMoonlet 20:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Did you forget to add that part? Mike33 20:53, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

That simply says that Elizabeth II's decision on this matter is not binding upon her successors. The same is true, as far as I can tell, of George V's decision in 1917. You still have not demonstrated that there was ever an act of Parliament, nor that the 1917 decree had anything to say about non-agnatic descendants (like Charles). --BlueMoonlet 20:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

This About The House of Windsor

Geneologically yes such concerns stand but the house of windsor is simply a an instrument of parliament. It is not a royal house. it is an instrument of parliament which gives the children of George V the right to title themselves. dont get silly. they all have titles above and beyond house of windsor. but this is not the article to state honorifics Mike33 21:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

AS PER PARLIAMENT are u joking? 21:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

That's an interesting theory, but you need to back it up. When did Parliament ever pass any legislation defining the House of Windsor, or in fact saying anything about its composition or name? It may be true, I may be ignorant on this issue, but I would like to be convinced. You might also try adopting a more civil tone. --BlueMoonlet 21:21, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa Belief overides knowledge. I must apologise ten times. You are quite right that there wasn't a parliamentary act. Although the "decree" and further "decrees" have no legal basis, they should be included. Forgive my use of bullshit and my insistance on parliament. Mike33 02:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Baseball Nicknames

Forgive me. It's been a rough week or so, and your comments on my discussion page have slipped my mind. As you've mentioned I would, I greatly disagree with you. The "official nicknames" as you call them, are known as that harkening back to the time when the teams were officially known as Baltimore, Cincinnati, and Chicago AL and names like Orioles, Reds, and Cubs were "nicknames" used by fans and the media. Nowadays, these aren't nicknames, they're just the names of the teams. The nicknames are names which are used by the fans, the media, and, in most cases, the team and it's broadcasters. You've already noted the circulation of "Bronx Bombers". "A's" is more frequently used than Athletics. "Blue Crew" is what the dodgers are referred to in the name of the team's organization-owned fan club. "Cubbies" is used not only by fans, but by the organization during the singing of "Take Me Out to the Ball Game".

These nicknames are information about the team, and should not be excluded. First of all, they are other names for the subject, and those go in the lead, more often than not in bold like the subject's standard or full name. The nicknames usually take up a small block of text in the lead, and are sometimes taken care of in one sentence or in a few words in a set of parenthesis. I think that, when you say "They are also known as" or something to that effect before mentioning the names, they're in enough context for people to figure out what they mean. The article isn't telling people to use them, but it does explain that they are other names for the team, and in many instances explains the meaning behind them. As for the infobox, that is one nickname, the most widely used one, that we put there. The only instances where the most widely used one is not the one displayed is when it comes to the Red Sox and the White Sox, where they share the nickname "The Sox". I have not added all the nicknames for these teams, and, in fact, I've been joined by other wikipedians who want these names to stay on their pages. The White Sox and Cubs pages have repeatedly tried to add more nicknames to the infobox, but more than one makes it too crowded. The Mets page's people have already reverted your changes, with no prompting by me. I've not added all the nicknames, and didn't even know of most of them until the good people of each page's own little community revealed them. In fact, I didn't even add them all to the infoboxes.

The nicknames have never been fought against (the only exception being the Braves), and have, in fact, been added to. The people have embraced them, changing them, if need be. They are not unsourced and unencyclopedic. No name has been added by me unless I had firsthand knowledge, or have researched the name and seen that it is used by the media or the fans. Most, if not all, are used by the organization at the stadium, on merchandize, by broadcasters, or in websites. I believe that's enough to be considered "official". These things are information about the team, and as such, should be included. --Silent Wind of Doom 04:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject

Would you like to help me create a WikiProject for the Dodgers? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Mainly concentrating on the Dodgers. Since there's WikiProjects for some baseball teams. The reason I'm asking, is because I've seen your recent edits and they seem to highly concentrate on some Dodger details!!! But, if you don't have the time, then I'll see if I could get some help!!! --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

You got it!!! --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Baseball in the Bible

You might have heard this one: "In the Big Inning, God created the heaven and the earth..." Baseball Bugs 01:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Los Angeles Dodgers

In all technicality, I can challenge everything on the page since no specific source is provided for any of the information. If you want examples, please see Misplaced Pages:Good articles. Almost every page there provides a source after every fact. A good article doesn't wait until a fact is challenged to be cited; it provides the the citations before it even be challenged. Let's take a look at a few examples. Under Early Brooklyn baseball, it states "Eight of 16 participants in the first convention were from Brooklyn, including the Atlantic, Eckford and Excelsior clubs that combined to dominate play for most of the 1860s." If a curious reader decides to look up where that information is coming from, it can't be done. There are no references provided for that specific statement. The entire history section runs along the same line; no specific source is provided for any of the information. The article is not properly cited until specific references are attributed to each statement.

PS I choose to remain anonymous. That's the beauty of Misplaced Pages; anyone, and not just registered users, is allowed to make edits. I have a talk page should you choose to use it. 75.183.24.180 21:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, they is. This article National Association of Base Ball Players#Champions shows which teams were the obvious powers of that era. Baseball Bugs 00:10, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that thorough referencing is a good goal to strive for, but it is not always attainable. Personally, I have no time for such work, as I have a job and a family. No one has nominated the Dodgers page for Good Article status (only 0.1% of articles on Misplaced Pages have such status, according to WP:GA), so those criteria do not apply. If the lack of referencing disturbs you, then do something constructive and do the research yourself. I would argue that the unreferenced tag should only be used for articles whose content is truly questionable, otherwise it should belong on all 1,885,176 of the 1,887,768 Misplaced Pages articles that are currently not "good". The stuff on the Dodgers page is good stuff; it may not be research quality, but it should be available to people.

PS, you have anonymity even if you have an account. What you don't have is a paper trail. I'd wager that you've been around quite a bit longer than this month, which is all I can see on your contributions. How long will that talk page be yours? Are you in fact the same as 71.71.119.122, who first added the unreferenced tag to the Dodgers page on 14 January? How can I talk to you and take you seriously if I don't know what kind of editor you are? --BlueMoonlet 16:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I am not saying what's on the Dodger page isn't good. It just needs to be properly cited to ensure that the information stays good. Should a rogue editor decide to tinker with the page, it would be difficult to catch the error without knowing where the information originally came from. It's impossible for me to do what you suggest -- to do the research myself. Unfortunately, because the page isn't cited, I don't know where to begin in attributing sources to each statement. This whole problem could have been avoided had the original writer provided the sources to begin with. An unreferenced tag rectifies this situation by encouraging future editors to properly cite their sources when adding new information. If a tag is not present, it'll only add to the increasing amount of unsourced information.

There is no reason to take me less seriously just because I'm an anonymous editor. My past edits has absolutely no bearing on what's being discussed here. As it stands, I see no good reason to leave the tag off. 75.183.24.180 00:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, I wrote a lot of that material. I know that everything I wrote came from a reliable source, but I couldn't tell you exactly which fact came from which reference. Scrupulously documenting in that way, though it clearly would be good given unlimited time and resources, would have taken so much time that the total amount written would have been much less, and I chose not to go that route. I've had a lot of that material in my head for many years, and the same is true of a number of other people who watch that page and are ready to weed out questionable statements, so I don't think your "rogue editor" is a compelling concern.

As an experiment, I just clicked "Random article" 20 times and came up with the following results: 4 articles had a reference specifically cited for a specific fact (though, actually, each of these had only one ref apiece); 6 articles had one or more sources at the end, but no specific citations for specific facts (the Dodgers article would be in this category); and 10 articles had no references whatsoever. Not one article in my random sample had an unref tag, and to be honest, none were nearly as well-referenced as the lengthy list of recommended reading on the Dodgers page. I think this demonstrates that the high bar you're advocating is not Misplaced Pages's standard.

I don't want to be bitey, but the only reason I can think of to not have an account is that you think some of your edits would not be considered respectable. I encourage you to read here and here on the subject of entering Misplaced Pages through the front door, and perhaps also here (particularly here) if the idea of multiple accounts for different kinds of edits appeals to you. Many people (including myself) will be much more receptive to what you have to say if you do not appear to be hiding something. --BlueMoonlet 01:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

As you can see here, you are not the first to comment on my anonymity, and I doubt you will be the last. However, let's not forget that Los Angeles Dodgers is the issue at hand here, not my decision to whether or not to make an account. I would like to point out that your suspicion of my past edits is not too different than my concerns for references. You are skeptical of my past edits. Similarly, I cannot just assume that you are knowledgeable as you claim you are without the proper references. While I do believe you are trying the make the page better, I simply cannot assume that everything you've added without a source is correct, and that you will be around to correct every mistake in the future. I am not pushing you to update every information with a source immediately; however, a tag would notify readers that a verifiability check may be in order. What harm is there to adding such a tag?

As it stands, the gold standard for any Misplaced Pages page are the featured articles. Misplaced Pages is a work in progress; just because a random search shows improperly cited pages doesn't necessarily mean it's correct, and it definitely doesn't make it a standard. If you see an article that needs updating, then be bold about it and make the changes to make it better! 75.183.24.180 03:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your anonymity, my last sentence above remains my opinion on the subject.

Yes, "good" and "featured" articles are the standard to aspire to, but that doesn't mean articles not meeting that standard should be marked as deficient. As I demonstrated above, that is not the general practice at Misplaced Pages. The tag is an eyesore, and should only be used for articles whose content is truly questionable.

As a final note, just today an enterprising user started a real references section on the Dodgers page. That is the "be bold" solution; doing something constructive rather than standing to one side and criticizing. --BlueMoonlet 00:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Dominionism AFD

How do I withdraw the AFD? --RucasHost 09:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm not sure. But if you post your own wish to withdraw the nomination on the AfD page, I'm pretty sure the admins will take care of it. --BlueMoonlet 09:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Fever tree

High, Blue Moonlet You seem to be the only wikipedist interested in fever trees. Do you have an idea why instead of saying, as you do, that Acacia xanthophloea grows near swamps, several webpages (Worldweb, Definition.com;, and others) say that it "marks healthful regions"? That does not make much sense! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfredr (talk • contribs) 06:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Alfredr. The two sources currently cited in the Acacia xanthophloea article relate the story of settlers associating malaria with fever trees because the trees tended to grow in swampy areas. If you have sources giving another story, feel free to add something to the effect of "However, other sources say..." --BlueMoonlet 14:30, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

RHEMA Bible Training Center

Hi, if you get a moment or two, could you look over the page I created at RHEMA Bible Training Center? Any input would be valuable and appreciated. Thanks! --profg 02:44, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar for your keen eye for wording

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		For your excellent wording improvements suggested at WP:ERRORS. — TKD::Talk 02:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that's never happened to me before. Thank you so much. --BlueMoonlet 02:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar for Dominionism

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For your bang-up job of researching, improving, and continuing to improve Dominionism with those who differ.

--Flex (talk/contribs) 20:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

PS, I decided to give you this before I saw the barnstar you won above. See, everyone (well, almost) thinks you're doing good work!

Thanks. I really appreciate it. --BlueMoonlet 02:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Profg

Since you've taken it upon yourself to undo this chronically disruptive supposed "editor" 's community ban, myself and the others he wikistalked and harassed intend to hold you responsible for ensuring that he lives up to the specific terms of his parole: 1) 1RR, 2) zero tolerance for wikistalking, harassment and incivility. IOW, if he starts up with this nonsense again, you are expected to restore the block. He's your and User:B's responsibility now, accept it. Odd nature 23:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)