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Your suggestion

So, as you may have noticed, I acted on your suggestion and have tried to bring some order to the alternate versions discussion. I see that you have found the discussion atWikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Comics/Character_alternate_version_guidelines. Once we get the old discussions archived, this should work fairly well. We'll just have to make sure people not already involved in the discussion will easily be able to find it. Doczilla (talk) 22:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

The Authority

I noticed you and someone else disagreeing over issues regarding the Midnighter article. While editng Authority articles, you might fix capitalization of The when it's done in the wrong place. See WP:CMC/EG#Capitalization_of_the_word_.22the.22 for what I'm talking about. I've noticed a great deal of inconsistency in whether people write The Authority or the Authority within a sentence (when referring to the team as characters, not when naming the title). Doczilla (talk) 22:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Hogwarts students article draft

Hi Arcayne, I did a draft of the article in here: Draft. I would appreciate your opinion. Lord Opeth (talk) 03:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Re Perhaps you might wish to assist this user

Because, quite frankly, my patience has run out. After about a month of uncivil behavior, Agha Nader decided to post that I was a racist. I have offered him the opportunity to retract his statement and apologize within the next 12 hours. If an apology is not forthcoming, I will escalate the matter. I have tolerated the incivility in the 300 and Persian Gulf articles, and even went along with him submitting wikiquette complaint based on a failed RfC he could not file over 6 months ago. You seem to be able to reach him in a way that I never have. As an admin, you can perhaps advise him that the shit will indeed hit the fan if that apology doesn't arrive in the alloted time. - Arcayne () 05:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I have responded to Arcayne's complaint on my talk page . Also, I filled the wikiuette report because it was the next step in dispute resolution. I was unable to report a RfC because it not reached that step yet. However, as you will see on my talk page, Arcayne has made prejudice comments in the past. I merely pointed out his most recent one.--Agha Nader (talk) 06:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I would encourage you to visit Nader's page and see that response, FayssalF, and maybe take a look at the wikiquette complaint as well. Pay particular attention to the diffs he lists, so as to see the context of the comments he attributes to myself and others. I'e made it clear in my reply to his response that further accusations do not constitute an apology, and that the clock is still ticking. Actually, it isn't, as he is aware of the personal attack and apparently isn't considering apologizing. I will allow the full remaining time. He may come to realize that it will only escalate if an apology is not forthcoming. - Arcayne () 06:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok guys. Thanks for letting me know about that. Well, first, let me tell you both that i've just seen 'the Random Acts of Kindness Barnstars' (Arcayne's userpage) and 'the Original Barnstar' (Agha Nader's userpage). This means that you both are an asset for Misplaced Pages and it's a pity that things are not working great for you. It is true that Nader should have avoided the accusation of racism at your talk page. We just don't fix problems that way. There are plenty of ways to sort issues out and both of you know a lot about that. On the other hand, setting an ultimatum for an apology is inappropriate itself. So what i am suggesting is that you go through formal mediation. If you think that would be a waste of time than you must forget about dealing w/ eachother for at least a period of time until everyone cools down. You may also consider a short break from editing those articles and let third parties help you instead (Misplaced Pages:Third opinion). But before that let's delete User:Agha Nader/RFC/User:Arcayne. I hope this would restore some of good faith assumption to the table for the time being. -- FayssalF - 17:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate that, too. Will Nader also be withdrawing the wikiquette alert he created based out of that report, as no sense deleting the barn door without also deleting the horse that escaped? How about that apology for the accusation for racism, sitting on the 300 page, as well as its removal/striking-through? I set a time limit on the apology, as these sorts of accusations, untended take on a life of their own. If I choose to vigorously defend myself from the disgusting charge of racism, it is because any reasonable and innocent person would do so. So, I ask, is Nader prepared to remove the wikiquette complaint himself as well as offer an apology and retraction of his accusation? - Arcayne () 01:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)`

Arcayne, please don't set ultimatums. Agha, could you please retract the wikiquette alert? As for User:Arcayne/busywork 2, i must say "Yes, I believe it doesn't serve for anything except for keeping the situation heated". Regards. -- FayssalF - 17:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Broncofreak12321

Sorry Arcayne, I am sorry if i offended you are any of your fellow wikipedians. You are right i am new to[REDACTED] and i did not mean to put Anakinjmt "down". respectfully yours, broncofreak12321 P.S. send me a message back please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Broncofreak12321 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Will do. - Arcayne () 17:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Calm down

Aloha. I would request that you step back for a moment. In this edit which you have been discussing with Broncofreak, it's clear he wasn't altering the other editor's post, he was just commenting on his own (see how he signed it?). He is new, and your comments come off a little like biting the newbies. A more proper and polite thing would have been to just refactor his post to the accepted format, and make a note on his page explaining how to use tha talk pages. Mahalo. --Ali'i 15:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for seeing that i didn't mean to offend anybody.

--respectfully yours (talk) 16:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)respectfully yours--respectfully yours (talk) 16:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

User:broncofreak12321 p.s. to explain my stupidness i'm 15

Thank You

Arcayne, I've pondered if doing this is appropriate, but I haven't been able to inhibit myself from doing so. Thank you for doing what you've done here . I've found the repeated personal attacks and accusations by this user, insulting, demeaning and somewhat intimidating. I'm sad to see that this action was necessary and at the same time glad that you were able to take this action properly with respect to[REDACTED] policies. I'm hopeful that this user will take a constructive experience out of this and stop resorting to these tactics in the future and realize that civility will take his points much farther and faster than his consistent incivility when faced with disagreements. Would it be proper for me to add my supportive comments on this incident report? If any of what I'm saying or asking here is inappropriate, please feel free to delete this from here. Regards ObserverToSee (talk) 18:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Question

What is Emergancy Manegment?? User:broncofreak12321 —Preceding comment was added at 19:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I looked at the EM deal on here. Emergancy Manegment sounds pretty cool. User:broncofreak12321

Re: Dude, where's my Santa?

I deleted Image:MerryOldSanta.jpg as being a copy of Image:1881 0101 tnast santa 200.jpg/Image:Nast Santa cropped, 1881.png on Commons. The resolution (167x234) was pretty low, so the alternate images appeared to be superior choices. I could undelete Image:MerryOldSanta.jpg if you'd like, and transfer it to commons as another version of the images. ˉˉ╦╩ 19:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. Sorry about the lack of notice, it was a shortcut. Your image summary is, indeed, superb. :) ˉˉ╦╩ 20:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I uploaded it into a higher resolution so that we can make it larger on the page. --David Shankbone 20:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

You can use Special:Log/delete to check the deletion history of any article or file. GFDL edit history is accessible for all articles and images, deleted images and/or previous versions are preserved for those uploaded since mid-2006-or-so. If you ever need access to a deleted image/article edit history, you can ask me or any admin in Category:Misplaced Pages administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles to provide you with a copy (with a few rare exceptions). Oh and I used the Move-to-Commons assistant to quickly transfer your file, since it preserved the GFDL edit history and properly links to the original en.wiki page & author. HTH, ˉˉ╦╩ 20:28, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Since both of you might be watching my page, I've a question: when an image is deleted, isn't a bot message generated to note the impending deletion, or is it left up to the deletor? (This isn't a crack at Anetode, who is pretty accomodating, but a general inquiry). - Arcayne () 20:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Copyrighted images are routinely evaluated by patrollers and bots (although sometimes incompetently) who are required to leave a notice for images that have no copyright tags, source information, improper rationales, or are orphaned. WP:IFD/WP:PUI usually handle the rest and free images are routinely transferred to commons and deleted (local copies, that is) without notice. Sometimes people take shortcuts when it comes to vandalism images/copyright infringement or other obvious cases. ˉˉ╦╩ 20:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. i will likely refer to it often. Immortality, baby. :) - Arcayne () 20:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Batman

Oh awesome, how was I Am Legend? Alientraveller (talk) 18:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Quite well done, but I am almost positive a bunch was cut that could have actually assisted the film's plotline (which was under 2 hours long). Aside from Smith, i felt no real emotional connection to any of the other characters. As well, I was disappointed that descriptors of the infected (apparently there are two kinds) were barely touched on.

On the other hand, I am consistently and continually surprised at Smith's capability to access the immediacy in any role, which is rather stupid of me, considering how well he has handled every role since bad Boys II. - Arcayne () 18:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Great to hear that you enjoyed it! I'm definitely looking forward to the film (probably won't get a chance to see the teaser unless it gets online), and especially how the new portrayal of the Joker is received. As for I Am Legend, I read the book not too long ago, and I feel like the film won't really meet expectations, especially the third act, from the looks of the trailers. Will Smith is a decent actor, but I can't help but wonder if a different director could have made it less Hollywoodized. Smith's in Hancock next, and that should be interesting to see. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 18:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Wishing you and yours the very best of the holiday season. May the coming year bring you peace, joy, health and happiness. God bless us, every one! Jeffpw (talk) 20:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

hey evil uncle....

check your email Tvoz |talk 07:49, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand

I am discussing the issues about the Whitechapel Murders and following on from what KB said. I haven't mentioned anybody's name. As the other editors on the page have pointed out it is you who are conducting a slanging match with DG not me. Are we not allowed to mention a certain stand taken in the debate because it is associated with another editor? If the cap fits wear it. I MENTIONED NOBODY'S NAME. On the[REDACTED] we are allowed to debate the issues. If someone has an idiosyncratic personal credibility investment in some murders that happened over a hundred that is their problem. To repeat I AM DISCUSSING THE ISSUES not personalities Colin4C (talk) 12:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

If you don't see the incivility of your posts, then i guess there's little more that can be said on the matter.

Is this a cultural thing? In the UK we are noted for our sense of humour and a sense of irony and hyperbole etc. This seems to go completely over the heads of American mods who take everything absolutely literally and get annoyed at anyone cracking a joke which they can't understand. Colin4C (talk) 12:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I went to school at Oxford. I am aware of Britwit, and the differences betwixt it and American humor.

Just to add that I am a published author in the UK - with books published by the Oxford and Cambridge University Press not someone to be kicked around and verbally abused as you seem to delight in doing. I am an academic by training and profession. Look up "Colin Forcey" on google if you don't believe me. If you were a student in my class or if you met me would you be so personally abusive to me? Colin4C (talk) 13:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I would have offered you the same advice were you Billy Shakespeare, though I'd have likely been scolded for not rendering it in iambic pentametre. A mistake is a mistake, and I felt it prudent to give you the observer's point of view. Were I to have kicked you about, you would certainly know the difference. Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else who has not treated you with the level of respect I have. Had I not cared,i would have sat back with a bag of popcorn and watched the circus that is likely to ensue presently.

Why do keep misrepresenting my standpoint at JTR as a personal feud between me and DG??? I am just talking common sense. If DG believed that the sun rose in the west and I held a different view would you think that I was launching a vicious personal attack on him by espousing the opposite view. At university we have robust discussions on the ISSUES. We don't decide not to have a discussion because someone has a well known pet theory and might burst into tears if it is attacked. I was interested in JTR long before I knew Dreamguy and am not going to alter my views of what is obvious common sense to save him from some putative personal trauma. The[REDACTED] is not about pandering to DG's personal hang ups or being the greatest wikilawyer on the planet it is about KNOWLEDGE. Am I right on that? If I am wrong and the[REDACTED] is just about using and abusing the[REDACTED] rules in the most devious ways possible then you had better block me now. I AM NOT AND NEVER WILL BE A WIKILAWYER - wikilawyering is a bloody pathetic, childish piece of stupid bullying. I maintain that COMMON SENSE should be our watchword. At university we don't continually denounce each other for transgressing university regulations WE GET ON WITH THE JOB and try to advance KNOWLEDGE. Colin4C (talk) 14:11, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I would remind you that we are neither in parliament nor in the university classroom. While it is high form to dissemble your opponent in those particular battlefields, such is not the case here. DG always reacts defensively when attacked. I would not offer him any particular shield from the eventual action that gets him banished from out august company forever. You are essentially allowing yourself to be used as a target for those slings and arrows which would be more rightly focused upon his behavior. However, I've mentioned before that if you don't see any fallout from this behavior, there is little I can do.

If I wanted to be a wikilawyer I would ask you to see Misplaced Pages:Wikilawyering and Misplaced Pages:Use common sense but I hope we can discuss things like rational human beings. Just imagine we were in a face to face situation in a classroom or pub discussing these matters. Colin4C (talk) 14:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I would do that, were the rest of wp doing that, but such is not the case.

I was offering you my candid opinion as to how you were flirting with disaster. I offered you advice on how to prevent someone from acting on what appeared to be a fair amount of incivility on your part. I did my good deed by letting you know what could happen. If you choose not to act on it, that is entirely up to you. Fare thee well. - Arcayne () 15:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)