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| i do NOT want to be included on wikipedia. i don't want to learn your protocols for editing and deletion and discussion. i don't have time or interest. | |||
| == first comments == | |||
| ] 06:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
| "... he later stated that he felt repressed and that American society at large is repressive, especially in terms of sex and sexuality. Brannan also stated that this may be the cause of violence, drug abuse and other self-destructive behavior...." this information is judgmental and indicates a bias on the part of the author. also why are the subject's views on America, violence, sex, and drug abuse relevant in his introductory paragraph | |||
| this article started out as people talking shit about me. it was removed and blocked a few times, and then eventually became something of a mini bio filled with ALL wrong information, which i have tried to correct over the past year and it still constantly changes by people who think they know what they are talking about. i can't constantly come back to this page to verify accuracy and to have my identity and labels forced on me by others. | |||
| "..His stay as a student at the College Conservatory of Music at the University of Cincinnati only lasted six months. He got kicked out and was told that he could not be an actor....." ... again, biased. | |||
| i don't care how people represent me on personal sites. but[REDACTED] is presented to the public as if it were a fact-based encyclopedia, when that is not at all the case. i don't want my personal and professional self being portrayed in ways that complete strangers have decided on in a forum that is viewed by the world as a factual-based encyclopedia. i don't want photos i own the copyrights to being displayed here either. | |||
| "... Brannan is in no way worried about the effect that the sex scenes might have on his getting future acting roles... " clearly very biased statement | |||
| please save me this headache and take me off this site and keep it forever blocked. | |||
| It is hereby asserted that this page does not meed Misplaced Pages's quality standards and of taking a neutral point of view. | |||
| i hate wikipedia | |||
| thanks | |||
| jay | |||
| He's an actor and song writer. It's silly that he hasn't got his own article. Perhaps an administrator could tell me why ] 04:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :: Hardly relevant any more, and that's good :). ] 07:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
| == Deleting LGBT info == | |||
| An anon IP {{user|162.84.242.196}} keeps deleting the fact that Brannan is gay - specifically the sentence: | |||
| :<nowiki>In Shortbus, Brannan, who is ] ],<ref name="logo">{{citation |url=http://www.newnownext.com/2007/07/video-lunch-jay.html |periodical=] |title=Jay Brannan - "Body's A Temple" |date=], ] |accessdate=]}}</ref></nowiki> | |||
| Deleting material like this is considered vandalism and one can be ] for doing so. Before deleting it again, please discuss your reason for doing so here. Thanks! -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] | ])</small></span> 19:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :satyr guy - | |||
| :you are a control freak. why are you the only one who can determine what changes to this article are relevant? | |||
| ::And why do you want to remove the fact that he's gay? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] | ])</small></span> 23:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::cuz its irrelevant and you're obviously obsessed with it -- your entire user page and contributions to this site are centered around who is and isnt gay -- its like a personal agenda | |||
| ::::My agenda, and what I may or may not be obsessed with, is making this encyclopedia better through the consensus process. You might be interested in the welcome message I've posted on your talk page - it explains a little bit about Misplaced Pages and how it works. One of the guidelines we all try to follow is ]. What you and I are doing right now is a content dispute - something that happens all the time on Misplaced Pages. You state your concerns about the content on an article, I state mine, and we try to work towards some agreement. | |||
| ::::The fact that Brannan is gay is relevant, partially because of the role he played in Shortbus, partially because hiding his sexuality is whitewashing part of who he is. The four words (out of ~1500) *is* important - read the web page that's cited: . Or take a look at the Advocate article: . Hiding his sexuality is definitely against what Brannan is about. So please provide a reason you believe it to be irrelevant. | |||
| ::::Since most of our discussion has to do with the article specifically, I'm copying it to ]. I invite you to continue discussing the issue there. Thanks for at least replying and not just deleting out of hand. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] | ])</small></span> 06:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| if a person's sexuality is so relevant to their work, then every "non-gay" artist should have a qualifier stating they are openly straight. what you're doing here is the same as saying something like "whitney houston, a black person, recorded her first album in 19xx" and then linking the statement to a picture proving she's black. it's silly, extraneous, and kind of offensive. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 08:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| :::::Um - it *does* say she's black - third sentence: "...Houston was one of a few black artists to receive heavy..." It doesn't link to proof, but it does state that she's black. As for straight people, they make up 90% or more of the population, so being straight is considered "normal". Being gay has to be stated. And when ] doesn't happen anymore, then a person's sexuality will be irrelevant. But since we live in a world where that *does* happen, Brannan's sexuality is relevant. I don't see how it's offensive, though. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] | ])</small></span> 14:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Brannon ''is'' open about his sexuality, it has ], and his appearance in ''Shortbus'' makes it even more relevant than it would have been otherwise. BTW, it's not that straight people are "normal", rather it's that heterosexuality is assumed. That another reason to include the verified statement that he is openly gay. It belongs in the in the article and I'm replacing it. — ] (]) 22:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *If 90% of the population is straight, then being part of that 10% is a fact worthy of note, particularly given it's relevance to his career. I would similarly include such facts as whether Jay is left handed, epileptic, or a ]. It all adds up to forming an accurate biographical profile, which is the aim of this encyclopedia, an aim that certain quarters seem to be forgetting. ] (Have a nice day!) 14:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 10:11, 2 February 2008
from jay brannan:
i do NOT want to be included on wikipedia. i don't want to learn your protocols for editing and deletion and discussion. i don't have time or interest.
this article started out as people talking shit about me. it was removed and blocked a few times, and then eventually became something of a mini bio filled with ALL wrong information, which i have tried to correct over the past year and it still constantly changes by people who think they know what they are talking about. i can't constantly come back to this page to verify accuracy and to have my identity and labels forced on me by others.
i don't care how people represent me on personal sites. but[REDACTED] is presented to the public as if it were a fact-based encyclopedia, when that is not at all the case. i don't want my personal and professional self being portrayed in ways that complete strangers have decided on in a forum that is viewed by the world as a factual-based encyclopedia. i don't want photos i own the copyrights to being displayed here either.
please save me this headache and take me off this site and keep it forever blocked.
i hate wikipedia
thanks
jay