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| ::I'm actually beginning to lose track of which concerns have been addressed and which haven't. I agree it is not reasonable to expect them all to be addressed at once, but I do know one thing that would improve the situation immensely is Betacommand himself communicating more and saying (for example) some of the things that you are saying above. I was looking through his Misplaced Pages namespace and talk page contributions for the past week, and noting the constructive contributions, but I got distracted by the opt-out template MfD. ] (]) 16:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC) | ::I'm actually beginning to lose track of which concerns have been addressed and which haven't. I agree it is not reasonable to expect them all to be addressed at once, but I do know one thing that would improve the situation immensely is Betacommand himself communicating more and saying (for example) some of the things that you are saying above. I was looking through his Misplaced Pages namespace and talk page contributions for the past week, and noting the constructive contributions, but I got distracted by the opt-out template MfD. ] (]) 16:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
| :::Well, there are so many complaints, I'm not sure anyone has a good grasp on what's been addressed and what hasn't, especially considering all the crap that surrounds those few valid concerns. As far as the MFD goes, I agree, it is distracting. Especially considering the MFD itself is based on no policy and, thus, is out of process. It's a case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT made by an admin who shows a lack of knowledge for the policies he's been entrusted to uphold and a lack of judgment in his rogue deletion of a page as a template. Ignoring All Rules because he has no policy to stand on. Then accusing BC of vandalism after he's just abused his admin tools. It's all very distracting, indeed. ''']''']''']''' 16:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC) | :::Well, there are so many complaints, I'm not sure anyone has a good grasp on what's been addressed and what hasn't, especially considering all the crap that surrounds those few valid concerns. As far as the MFD goes, I agree, it is distracting. Especially considering the MFD itself is based on no policy and, thus, is out of process. It's a case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT made by an admin who shows a lack of knowledge for the policies he's been entrusted to uphold and a lack of judgment in his rogue deletion of a page as a template. Ignoring All Rules because he has no policy to stand on. Then accusing BC of vandalism after he's just abused his admin tools. It's all very distracting, indeed. ''']''']''']''' 16:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| {{uw-agf}}. I don't see any way that any rational person could edit the encyclopedia if had signed the quasi-contract. In fact, signing the contract as written would be grounds for de-sysopping and possible blockage as an agreement to perform actions clearly not in the best interest of the encyclopedia in the opinion of the signatory. I'm trying to AGF, but that clause, is, as I've said, unconsionable, and it would be morally questionable to allow it to be signed. — ] ] 18:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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User:LaraLove/Userbox/Bearcat
That is the most hilarious userbox I've ever seen! bibliomaniac15 21:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
- Haha, thanks, but it's not my creation. Someone posted it to Riana's talk page with "This user" instead of "This cabal". Astral Enigma picked it up and put it on a subpage for transclusion, and I just tweaked it for cabal use. XD Lara❤Love 23:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
bc - bot - bag - blah
Hi Lara, I notice you're pretty solidly on Beta's side in this whole mess. That's OK, there's lots of reasons I would be on Beta's side too, it seems that events and actions keep pushing me just one way. I was wondering if you had any ideas on ways to move forward to resolve this and avoid future messiness. It seems a little sterile to just line up in opposing camps and blast away. If you feel that this is all not Beta's fault, no problem with me; if you have some ideas on how to reach a resolution, you're familiar with the situation, you're probably one of the best positioned to help settle things. Any ideas? Franamax (talk) 08:18, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think if everyone would back up off of him for a couple weeks, give him some air and let him relax, things would be better. He's been taking fire, so to speak, for quite a few weeks now. And if people would then approach him in a more respectful manner than is normally the case, I think everyone would see better results. That's not to say that no one has approached him in a constructive manner in the past couple weeks or so, but at this point, he's already on the defensive from everything going on. The valid concerns are being addressed, we just need everyone to give it some time to see results. Lara❤Love 14:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm actually beginning to lose track of which concerns have been addressed and which haven't. I agree it is not reasonable to expect them all to be addressed at once, but I do know one thing that would improve the situation immensely is Betacommand himself communicating more and saying (for example) some of the things that you are saying above. I was looking through his Misplaced Pages namespace and talk page contributions for the past week, and noting the constructive contributions, but I got distracted by the opt-out template MfD. Carcharoth (talk) 16:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well, there are so many complaints, I'm not sure anyone has a good grasp on what's been addressed and what hasn't, especially considering all the crap that surrounds those few valid concerns. As far as the MFD goes, I agree, it is distracting. Especially considering the MFD itself is based on no policy and, thus, is out of process. It's a case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT made by an admin who shows a lack of knowledge for the policies he's been entrusted to uphold and a lack of judgment in his rogue deletion of a page as a template. Ignoring All Rules because he has no policy to stand on. Then accusing BC of vandalism after he's just abused his admin tools. It's all very distracting, indeed. Lara❤Love 16:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'm actually beginning to lose track of which concerns have been addressed and which haven't. I agree it is not reasonable to expect them all to be addressed at once, but I do know one thing that would improve the situation immensely is Betacommand himself communicating more and saying (for example) some of the things that you are saying above. I was looking through his Misplaced Pages namespace and talk page contributions for the past week, and noting the constructive contributions, but I got distracted by the opt-out template MfD. Carcharoth (talk) 16:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
March 2008
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Editors are expected to treat each other with respect and civility. On this encyclopedia project, editors assume good faith while interacting with other editors. Here is Misplaced Pages's welcome page, and it is hoped that you will assume the good faith of other editors and continue to help us improve Misplaced Pages! Thank you very much!. I don't see any way that any rational person could edit the encyclopedia if had signed the quasi-contract. In fact, signing the contract as written would be grounds for de-sysopping and possible blockage as an agreement to perform actions clearly not in the best interest of the encyclopedia in the opinion of the signatory. I'm trying to AGF, but that clause, is, as I've said, unconsionable, and it would be morally questionable to allow it to be signed. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)