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List of Armor Digimon (Part 2)

What's up here? This has been in this "sort of a weird middle stage" since mid-November. (ran across this while browsing Special:Random) —Random832 18:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Slow and steady wins the race? It's just something I haven't gotten around to. There's a lot of link cleanup for it, and I wanted to prevent articles from being recreated via redlinks that hadn't been removed. I also still need to import the history, but that's not really a big concern, since I've already exported the xml file, and technically a list of contributors satisfies the GFDL as well. I'm fine with completely redirecting it or taking it to deletion. -- Ned Scott 00:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

That is, assuming arbcom won't block me for doing so. -- Ned Scott 00:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Was just making sure it (and anything else related) was still on your radar; I don't particularly care what you do with it at this point. —Random832 23:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

It is, I'm just dragging my feet on that more boring clean up work :) -- Ned Scott 02:38, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Japanese episode list updates

Hi. Can you take a quick look at Portal:Anime and manga/News to see if I summarized the changes to the Japanese episode list template correctly? Collectonian (talk) 03:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds perfect :) -- Ned Scott 03:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Cool...and I just realized that with those new fields, I can now more easily use this template for light novel lists since the graphic novel one isn't quite working well. *grin* Collectonian (talk) 03:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Have another question for you :) I'm working on the rather ambitious task of creating a List of Lassie episodes (588 episodes, 19 seasons). I remembered reading about what was done with Lost so that the episode lists were transcluded from individual season pages into the main List of Lost episodes, minus the summaries. I copied the code from the Lost episode list "hack" and made one for Lassie. It is all working great, except I can't figure out how to make it so it doesn't show {{ShortSummary}} if there is no summary to include (see the work in progress). With 588 eps, it will be awhile before they all have summaries. :P Do you know how I can fix the template at Template:Episode list/Lassie to tell it to leave the summary blank if there isn't one to show? Collectonian (talk) 08:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Re

I have not understand your question. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 08:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not Uncyclopedia. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 08:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

But in this line tons of nonsensical userboxes can be created. Then[REDACTED] will be mess. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 08:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I propose to create a new guideline which will restrict users from creating such nonsensical userboxes. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 08:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Why you are so eager in these bogus and nonsensical userboxes. If you like this userboxes, then Uncyclopedia will be the right place for you. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 08:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

She's done! (I think)

It's 5:18am here and I finally finished her. I've gone over the image a few times and tried to ensure all mistakes were fixed, and I've cleaned it up a little more several dozen times over, so it should be almost-perfect! You can view a larger version than the previews in the sandbox here. I'd like some feedback, tell everyone to nitpick it and point out things that should be fixed; I've been working on it so long I'm going blind so you guys might be able to find things I missed ;)
Also, the characters on her puzzle pieces; I'd like to be sure they're correct, since I was merely tracing over Kasuga's hand-drawn characters - somewhere in there there's likely to be small mistakes or such. If I can have the actual text characters to copy I can put them in as text and then convert that to paths for greater accuracy, as well.
I'm off to sleep, but I should be around again in 8 hours or so and will be free to fix any mistakes after then. All the best, -- Editor at Large • talk 10:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh - a friend and I went over her again and found a few little things I want to fix. I'm making a list on the talk page at Image talk:Wikipe-tan full length.svg, so if you and others can leave comments there I'll work on them this evening. Thanks! -- Editor at Large • talk 10:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Awesome!! I'll be sure to tell everyone. Again, thank you sooo much for taking this on. She looks great. -- Ned Scott 21:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Request for Comment

Hi Ned. Since you expressed interested, I wanted to let you know that I have created a RFC regarding the temporary injunction so the community can attempt to reach a consensus regarding this issue. Please comment with your views at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration/Episodes and characters 2/Request for Comment. Cheers! Redfarmer (talk) 20:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That's actually different from what I had in mind, but I'll check it out. -- Ned Scott 01:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Porting Template:Navbox to other wikis

In this comment you say "However, with a little bit of tweaking, it can be used without changing Tidy." Can you give me some hints about what you changed to make {{Navbox}} portable to wikis not running HTML Tidy? According to this other discussion (and down a few paragraphs from the link point), templates that need HTML Tidy to run correctly are "poorly designed." I would like to learn what sort of template coding errors HTML Tidy is silently fixing up, so I can help make Misplaced Pages's templates easier to port to other MediaWiki wikis. Thanks. --Teratornis (talk) 00:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Tidy basically fixes when formatting gets mixed. For example (wikitag) (html) (/html) (wikitag) would work, but (wikitag) (html) (wikitag) (/html) will break. At least I think that's how it works.. it's been a while since I explored the issue. I've converted a bunch of templates for use on Digimon Wiki. When I first started exporting Misplaced Pages articles to there, everything broke. It drove me crazy for a week or so. Finally, after asking around, I was able to see how to write the wiki table code without it breaking. The reason we use HTML at all is because normal wikicode gets broken when used with #if functions, but the way around this is to use {{!}} to replace I (and {{!!}} to replace ||). I already knew how to do this, but when I did I got extra line breaks in my boxes, a lot of extra line breaks.

The trick that I found out was to use <nowiki/>after the #if statement, then go to the next line to start the table row or table cell. For example:

{{#if:|<nowiki/>
{{!}}-

In any case, I went ahead and made a version of {{Navbox}} that has all this converted already. Basically there's {{Navbox}} and {{Navbox/core}}. Navbox/core is the part that needs the update, and that can be seen on User:Ned Scott/Navbox/core. With this diff you can see what changes I had to make. Make sure that you have the templates {{!}} and {{!!}}, and everything should work.

Let me know if you need any more help, or if it doesn't work right. -- Ned Scott 03:49, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

As I mentioned on the template talk page, thank you very much indeed for the most impressive answer. --Teratornis (talk) 07:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Anytime :D -- Ned Scott 03:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:2008 01 25 Scientology site error message.jpg

Could you explain further on the talk page for this image, specifically why it is "ineligible for copyright" ? Cirt (talk) 06:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Because it's just some text, common error message text at that. -- Ned Scott 06:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but it's a screenshot that could technically include graphics/images what have you with a claim of ownership by Prolexic Technologies, no? Cirt (talk) 06:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

But it doesn't include any graphics or images. It's a picture of text. -- Ned Scott 06:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Right, but with their style of text, font, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm the one who uploaded the image and I'm all for its use, I just want to make absolutely sure we can safely say that it is free-use instead of fair-use. Cirt (talk) 06:10, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

No worries. I tried to find a page to help describe it. I found Copyright#Typefaces and Typeface#Legal aspects that kind of explains some of it. Category:Public domain images ineligible for copyright also has a lot of good examples. Many images can also be trademarked, which can restrict how one uses something, but it's considered a different issue than copyrights. -- Ned Scott 06:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you just add all those links to policy pages also to the image's talk page, w/ some clarification as to why it is ineligible for copyright? Cirt (talk) 06:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Notice

Dear Ned Scott, because of the open-mindedness and reasonability expressed here, the friendliness expressed here, and the apology expressed here, I have removed the bit on you in my evidence of the ArbCom case. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 06:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Although, after your own explanation of why you listed it, I no longer felt insulted or anything like that :) -- Ned Scott 06:23, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome and that's encouraging to read. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 06:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

need a laugh?

See here. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

The episode list template

Hi Ned. I think that the "Written by" field should appear before the "directed by" field, because that is how they are usually billed on the TV shows, whether it's during the action after the opening credits, or on the scrolling end credits. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 06:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I had not considered that. I'll see what the others think about it, but since we've only just started it would probably be an easy change. -- Ned Scott 02:40, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I started a thread at Template talk:Episode list#Order of DirectedBy and WrittenBy. Feel free to notify as many other people/talk pages as you want, since there really wasn't a lot of feedback on this the last time it was discussed. The more the better. -- Ned Scott 05:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Hidden categories

Ned - I saw your question at the discussion about hidden categories. You may already have seen the note, but there is now a setting in the user preferences to toggle the display. It's under "Misc", titled "Show hidden categories". Cheers. --Ckatz_spy 08:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, nice. -- Ned Scott 02:40, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

WikEd for Safari

I have a little present for you :D User talk:Cacycle/wikEd_development#Safari. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 02:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Kick ass! -- Ned Scott 02:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Note that you will have to set wikEdSkipBrowserTest for my version. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 02:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! But I notice the on/off thingie in the corner, next to "log out" doesn't work, so it always defaults to being on when I edit. -- Ned Scott 03:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes there are still several smaller issues, but its already working a lot better then I had ever expected it to work. I'll be working on finding the remaining bugs in the next couple of days or so. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Looking forward to it :D -- Ned Scott 03:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion

I know it could look odd or out of place. Kasuga just does such beautiful work, and I'd rather have that adorn an article than a deletable (and often contentious) live image. I just don't know how backlogged he is. Cheers, Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this ( . . . a kiss is stil a kiss)

I, too, want a good solution. Many editors (including yourself) from disparate points of view have been diligently working at FICT and WAF to resolve this problem. One editor I have not seen there is TTN. I have no personal grudge against TTN, other than the fact that he has been rude to other editors. As a matter of fact, I can not think of a single instance where we have had a conflict. Nevertheless, I feel that it is a good thing for the Arb Com to draw a line and say "this behavior is unacceptable." You may feel that they only did this two one side, but I feel like the rest of the proposals (especially the enforcement by blocks) has the potential to draw a line with the other side's tendentious edit warring. I think this may be an excellent way to get back to work. Besides, if they close the case, the "problematic" injunction will be lifted. Ursasapien (talk) 07:03, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

My reply. -- Ned Scott 02:48, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Proposal RE: User:Mikkalai's vow of silence

You are a previous participant in the discussion at WP:AN/I about User:Mikkalai's vow of silence. This is to inform you, that I have made a proposal for resolution for the issue. I am informing all of the users who participated, so this is not an attempt to WP:CANVAS support for any particular position.

The proposal can be found at: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Proposed resolution (Mikkalai vow of silence) Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 02:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Re Requests for arbitration/Episodes and characters 2

Regarding this case, I know a lot of discussion is floating around, but I really feel strongly about this and wanted to get more attention to this comment I made:

If any of the arbs are reading these messages, I beg of you to accept a proposal that limits TTN's actions only when challenged. Like the others, I'm still not convinced TTN has even done something grossly wrong, but it's far better than the current proposal, allows TTN to preform non-controversial actions, and addresses the core issue of force rather than content judgements.

TTN might have had a liberal interpretation of ArbCom's instructions from the last case, but something like this would be a lot more clear cut, and I have no doubt he would follow it. Perhaps this could be given a trial time of a week or two, and if not effective then simply default to the 1.1 proposal that you are supporting now. I really believe this issue comes down to when situations where forced when challenged, and not the initial editorial actions. He would learn a lot from that kind of six month (or whatever) probation, and still be able to be constructive on Misplaced Pages. I also believe it's something that both "sides" would be able to live with. -- Ned Scott 04:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I do respect and understand your point Ned Scott. However, please do understand that we are talking about a restriction and not a ban. In fact it may not be for the best of everyone but it clearly represents a consunsus between arbitrators and i personally believe it will benefit the project while it is not necessarily harmful for TTN who can have more time now to think about the way of editing instead of the content itself because afterall good editorialship requires good behavior and responsability. TTN could not do both of that at once. Misplaced Pages receives routinely requests from restricted and/or banned users who seek another chance. In the case of TTN, he's clearly getting a chance now. I just consider it a fair deal. -- FayssalF - 00:08, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Kirill Lokshin deletion

Hi, this is what I was reverting, I have no idea why anything else was deleted with it but I was only removing the one thread. Benjiboi 05:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you were viewing an old version of the page? *shrug* The section was removed though, so no worries on that . -- Ned Scott 05:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the problem and thanks for fixing it! Benjiboi 07:29, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

it is out of hand

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Attention-deficit_hyperactivity_disorder_controversies&curid=4833604&diff=195740692&oldid=195740454 --scuro (talk) 05:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Little good comes out of the way it is now. He has now instructed Ss how to be uncivil and given his seal of approval to do so. Today we saw the first example of an attack, more are sure to follow. Abd also speaks of restraining me. Did you actually read everything that he wrote? When, if not now would you file a complaint?--scuro (talk) 05:58, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I've reposted it. It will give them the chance to apologize. If not I will follow your advice.--scuro (talk) 06:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I would appreciate it if you posted your complaint about Ss there.--scuro (talk) 06:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Indefblock template

The instructions on Template:Indefblockeduser do point people to a "historical" parameter that can be used, but I fear many admins don't bother to use this when putting the template on the pages of established contributors that get blocked. One way to address this is to make the "historical" option the default, and to make "delete" the option that has to be typed or pasted in. Carcharoth (talk) 12:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Stop with the bad-faith assumptions

I had never, to my knowledge, interacted with Boodles. Your edit summary of "feel free to gather more friends to outnumber me" was wildly inappropriate, and a complete and utter violation of the assumption of good faith required. Just because you feel the guy deserves to have user page content does not make it true, nor does it mean anyone is "gathering friends." I have not, at any time, contacted Boodles (or anyone else) on or off-project, to blank that userpage. Perhaps the fact that you're the only one restoring it, and more than one other editor is deleting it, should let you know that perhaps you're mistaken. Bellwether _C 18:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Friend was a bad choice of words then, and I should have simply said "like-minded user" or something. This user deserves a userpage because at one time he was an editor in good standing. I'm the only one restoring only because these are issues that most other people don't want to get their hands dirty with. No one wants to go to bat for a raciest, but I believe in standing up for users regardless of their personal beliefs. I don't agree with EliasAlucard's racial views, and I don't dispute his block. The guy was an asshat who had it coming. However, he did some good work, and one flaw, no matter how angry it makes some people, should not be the sum of his existence. -- Ned Scott 19:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

• You're still assuming bad faith. I've not contacted any "like-minded users" to "help" with the reversions. No one "deserves" a userpage, which is why indef-banned users often have their's blanked. Bellwether _C 19:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

• I didn't say you contacted anyone or asked them. There's no reason to blank the page, and the only rationale anyone has came up with is that "we did it for someone else". That translates to: no consensus to blank. -- Ned Scott 19:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

No one contacted me, you are indeed demonstrating bad faith Ned. I'd be interested to know what "good work" you feel this user actually did. In addition to exerting great effort to put absurd amounts of lipstick on assorted Nazi pigs who are subjects of Misplaced Pages entries, his other activity largely consisted of pushing his own POV in more obscure debates on Assyrian nationalism, where he received similar accusations of making heinous, despicable remarks against his opponents there. Boodlesthecat (talk) 19:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I didn't say anyone contacted you either. If you want to assume that I'm assuming bad faith (zomg), go ahead. My point still stands, there is no consensus to blank. I'm being objective here. I don't care about nazis or jews or any of that, and I'm not here to debate those topics. -- Ned Scott 19:34, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem; my question concerned your statement about the racist editor above, "he did some good work." Since you mentioned that as part of a justification for not blanking his page, I was wondering what "good work" you were referring to. And you're certainly not obligated to care about Jews, but I feel sorry that you feel the need to say you "don't care" about them. Boodlesthecat (talk) 20:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Wait what? I'm talking about in context to this situation. Why would you try to turn around my comment to make it seem anti-semitic? That's obviously not what I meant. -- Ned Scott 21:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Again, my question was what "good work" are you referring to in your defense of keeping this racist editor's user page up. If you dont have an answer, or don't wish to answer, I'll move on. I was just responding to what you said as support for your view. Boodlesthecat (talk) 21:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

ShortSummary and LongSummary parameters

This is in reply to your comment about the ShortSummary and LongSummary parameters. I hope that you as the developer of {{Episode list/Lost}} can help.

I messed around with the Short/LongSummary idea in User:Sgeureka/Template last month, but I gave up because I couldn't get the following case to work: When an templated episode (think {{Episode list/NAME_OF_THE_SHOW}}) in a season article doesn't have a LongSummary parameter (because most episodes using the old {{Episode list/NAME_OF_THE_SHOW}} don't have that parameter yet), the ShortSummary should be transcluded correctly on the season page. If however LongSummary is added for another episode of the same season (work-in-progress kind of a situation), then LongSummary should be transcluded per the updated {{Episode list/NAME_OF_THE_SHOW}}. ShortSummary should always be transcluded on the LoE.

I used User:Sgeureka/Sandbox#Real_Sandbox as "season" test page with User:Sgeureka/Template as the episode template, and used List of Stargate SG-1 episodes as the LoE page where User:Sgeureka/Sandbox#Real_Sandbox is transcluded (just using the preview, no saving). The episode "Prophecy" of this test case just has ShortSummary, and "Full Circle (Part 1)" has ShortSummary and LongSummary as parameters.

What I really haven't figured out yet is how to make the template check whether a parameter (i.e. LongSummary) even exists, and switch to ShortSummary otherwise. I already read meta:Help:ParserFunctions and the related pages, but was unable to find a solution. – sgeureka 20:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Long answer short: {{#ifeq:{{{PARAMETER|ʁ}}}|ʁ|IF NOT THERE|IF THERE}}

This is actually the trick that the main Template:Episode list uses to trigger table cells based on the existence of a parameter, rather than if it is filled out or not. I don't think the trick is actually documented anywhere. I figured it out one day when I noticed {{{PARAMETER|DEFAULT if not defined}}} worked when a parameter was listed (|PARAMETER=) but no text was entered for it. When you did that, DEFAULT would not show up, and instead you would get nothing (since nothing was entered). By using #ifeq this can actually be usable to trigger other things. If PARAMETER is not listed then it displays the default "ʁ". ifeq checks to see if ʁ is used, if it is then it will do one thing, if anything else is used (including "nothing") then, it will do something else. ʁ is used because it's unlikely that ʁ would ever be used for a parameter value. -- Ned Scott 20:35, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

So basically {{#ifeq:{{{LongSummary|ʁ}}}|ʁ|{{{ShortSummary}}}|{{{LongSummary}}} }} -- Ned Scott 20:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Works great. See "The Enemy Within" (ep 3) in Stargate SG-1 (season 1) and List of Stargate SG-1 episodes. – sgeureka 21:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Re User:VivianDarkbloom

Thanks for your message on my talkpage. I note that the editor has now been unblocked by another uninvolved admin. I would comment that I blocked the account because of the incivility, with a tariff of indefinite because I was aware that they had another account. Per AGF I don't suppose that they used that other account to edit while this one was blocked - but that is the reason why alternate accounts are blocked when the individual is in violation of WP policy (see Good Hand, Bad Hand). I explained that if they were to identify their previous account by email to a CU or similar and it was determined that it was not being used then the tariff on this account could be adjusted. They did not choose to do so. In the end another sysop looked at the facts, and decided to unblock. That is fine, it's how things work around here. LessHeard vanU (talk) 09:05, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

No worries, and sorry if I seemed a bit harsh. I was just a bit frustrated with the situation, having thought about some past situations where sockpuppet accusations pushed others away and turned out to be false. I now see your note on her talk page, and I guess this would have been cleared up faster if Vivian was simply a little clearer about what had actually happened. -- Ned Scott 07:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Ned, your efforts to see VivianDarkbloom unblocked deserve some serious credit. You've also defended me and TTN on separate occasions, and for that you have my thanks and respect. I'm happy to have you as a fellow editor, and as a fellow human being. --Pixelface (talk) 10:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate that you said that. -- Ned Scott 07:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Suggested changes in the WMF privacy policy

Hello,

I posted some suggestions for changes in the WMF privacy policy at the WMF site: . The gist of the suggestions is to institute a requirement for notifying those registered users whose identifying info is being sought by subpoenas in third-party lawsuits. These suggestions are motivated in large part by a discussion that took place in January 2008 at the Village Pump (Policy) page in relation to an incident where identifying IP data of sixteen Misplaced Pages users was released in response to such a subpoena. I also left a note about these proposal at Village Pump, WP:Village_pump_(policy)#Suggestions_for_changes_in_the_WMF_privacy_policy. Since you have participated in the January Village Pump discussion, I hope that you will contribute to the discussion of the current suggestions at the WMF website, . Regards, Nsk92 (talk) 12:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look and see if I have anything to add. I was really interested in seeing what would happen regarding our privacy policy after finding out about that situation. Thanks for letting me know about your proposals. -- Ned Scott 07:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Episodes and characters 2

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. TTN (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is prohibited for six months from making any edit to an article or project page related to a television episode or character that substantially amounts to a merge, redirect, deletion, or request for any of the preceding, to be interpreted broadly. However, he is free to contribute on the talk pages or to comment on any AfD, RfD, DRV, or similar discussion initiated by another editor, as appropriate. Enforcement of this remedy is specified here.

Furthermore, the parties are instructed to cease engaging in editorial conflict and to work collaboratively to develop a generally accepted and applicable approach to the articles in question, and are warned that the Committee will look very unfavorably on anyone attempting to further spread or inflame this dispute. Please also note that the temporary injunction enacted by the Committee on February 3 in relation to this case now ceases to be in effect.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 23:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

nofollow

Hi Ned, I saw your comment on Luna's page in response to my post there. I've created a meta account, but do not know my way around over there. A few pointers would be appreciated. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't really do much over there either, but I have commented a few times on the talk page for m:Interwiki map. Someone did tell me that a dev could probably change this, so maybe filing a bug report is the way to go. Recently the Wikia interwiki link broke and we changed a bunch of links to use normal ELs. It's since been fixed, but I'm holding off reverting back to the interwiki version until this can get fixed. -- Ned Scott 07:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Giromon (Digimon)

... has now been deleted so you can do your page move. kind regards, nancy 08:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Ned Scott 09:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Your NFC revert

Such a senseless revert is likely to make the copy-editor very annoyed. You provided no reason. Did you actually compare the two versions? WTF was controversial about the changes, which, to my eyes, removed fluff and strengthened the existing meanings without changing their substance. Frankly, it's the way it should have been written in the first place.

Proper reasons please???? Tony (talk) 11:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

In your eyes this was non-controversial and didn't change the meaning. I disagreed, and this is your response. It's a policy page, and no matter how sure you think you are, when someone questions your change you're supposed to discuss it like an adult and not throw a hissy fit. If you want to make the change then go to the talk page. -- Ned Scott 12:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Digimon numbered list

Hi Ned Flanders, I have helped with the numerical digimon list. I real create the actual page now.

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand 2

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand 2/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand 2/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 15:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Stargate templates

Hi Ned. My notability merge drive of Stargate articles on single elements is nearing its end (there is still much to do afterwards). Since you have the SG wikiproject userbox on your userpage, and since you participated in some SG TfDs with keep, I ask you about your opinion on the following. I have the intention to propose it in the SG wikiproject later (I don't expect much of a response there, as it is pretty much abandoned).

I've been thinking for a while about merging all the SG templates ({{Stargate Races}}, {{StargateLists}}, {{StargateTech}}, {{StargateTopics}}, {{Stargate Characters}}, {{Stargate SG-1 Seasons}}) into something like this (which still lists some of the to-be-merged articles). The good about it is (1) it gets rid of a lot of redundance and (2) it lists all[REDACTED] articles (except episodes) that there are about the SG universe. Template:Harrypotter and Template:Buffyversenav also seem to do this. The bad thing is it is pretty big (I have a widescreen monitor, so I don't really mind). Also, if Stargate Universe gets picked up, the template will get even bigger. I don't know yet how many of the lists (especially RACE characters and RACE technology) will be considered for mergers into Miscellaneous lists, which in turn would reduce the template a little again. What do you think? – sgeureka 00:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Please don't remove my comments

I consider rather rude to remove someone else's comments, as you did here. If you think the situation needs clarifying, you could add a further comment. Alternatively, if you think I should remove my note, you are welcome to discuss the matter with me on my talkpage (as I would rather have hoped you might have done in the first place). Regards, WjBscribe 04:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

My reply. -- Ned Scott 04:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Transwiki help

Do you know where can I find a pure Mediawiki code version of Template:Infobox animanga character?--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 05:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Made one a while back at wikia:digimon:Template:Infobox_animanga_character :) -- Ned Scott 05:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Template help

Hey Ned,

Over at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons we're working on condensing our thousands of creature pages into a number of list pages (see the discussion at User:BOZ/Monster Sandbox). We haven't decided how to do it yet, but it looks like a template is going to be needed. I'd like to create a template like Template:Episode list, but I'm out of practice and reading that page's code is difficult for me. If it's easy for you, could you chop Template:D&D creature list down to size for us. I copied the episode template over to it already. What I'd like is fields for "Name", "Page", and "Other Appearances", with a column spanning row called "Description" (instead of ShortSummary). If this is an easy thing for you and you want to, just go ahead and do it. I think once we have that, we can modify it. Thanks. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 07:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I figured it out. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 19:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ok. Sorry for the slow response, too. I haven't been very active on Misplaced Pages in the last week or so. Let me know if you need any help. -- Ned Scott 07:22, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Mbstpo

I blocked him indef as a temporary measure purely to stop any more vandalism, and posted at ANI to see what the community thought. The general consensus there was that given all the problems with his SIX previous accounts, and now this, that his chances had run out. I can't say I disagree; he had some good edits, but was getting to be a major time-sink for other editors. Black Kite 07:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

He seemed to be more of a benefit for our project on balance than a detriment, though. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles 15:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if he was or wasn't, but an indef block is skipping a lot of steps in resolving the issue. -- Ned Scott 07:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

The block was stated as being "indef" pending a resolution, I don't disagree with that, though it should not become an "indef" block as a permanent ban. I'd prefer to see a declaration that Mbstpo can get access again upon request, perhaps upon conditions. I think he would actually prefer to remain blocked at this point, it interrupts his ability to immediately dive in again. Mbstpo is a "time-sink" for other editors through disruption created in reaction to his ideas; actual disruption by him is minor at most, and done, twice now, when he has decided to burn a bridge. Voting canned comments in MfDs, for example, isn't disruption, it's actually common practice, the only difference was that instead of "Delete per nom," he wrote more explaining his generic reason for keep. I examined all these deletion debates and ended up concluding the same vote as him, I think. (There may have been one or two where I didn't think it worthwhile to make a comment, or I made a more specific recommendation.)

Given the history of this editor, which I've seen back to 2005, with no earned blocks at all, and no warnings that I've seen either, his suddenly having two indef blocks, also without specific warnings, is pretty abrupt. The proper warning for the "vandalism," -- I think that technically one of these was vandalism, the other was a hoax article, which is generally not treated as severely as vandalism, I think, unless repeatedly done -- would have been a warning only, with block if repeated. A 24-hour block would have been justifiable. Beyond that, because of his history, it's possible to treat this as a second offense, so the block would escalate to the next step. Which has already expired, I think. So what I'd ask from the blocking admin is that he state that he will lift on request. He can make conditions for that, which might or might not be challenged. Mbstpo's position was that he did not wish to edit the encyclopedia if he was denied the normal facilities of editors. He'd actually been a very productive editor in article space, and had simply begun to apply that experience in the area of policy and process. With, shall we say, spectacular results. Sometimes very good ideas, when first introduced, do set off some fireworks.... --Abd (talk) 16:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

New user proposal

Could you please read this proposal and my comment on the RfC? Then could you A.) post a reply to my idea and B.) if you agree, discuss how we could create and implement this robot? I truly believe this could help new editors before they create articles. Ursasapien (talk) 06:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/PHG's archived articles

I started to get truly exercised about this when I realized that the ArbComm decision was being misrepresented before the MfD. ArbComm specifically encouraged PHG to continue to contribute to the articles, simply not through direct editing, and not with incivility. Ironic, is it not, that PHG's error -- ArbComm did not impute bad faith as being involved -- was to cite sources when the sources contained contrary information (apparently in addition to what he cited or was implying, not as direct falsification), and then the same thing is done by them with respect to reporting the arbitration. Or possibly even worse.... It is very clear to me now, it was not clear at first. The ArbComm decision almost requires keeping these pages. Sure, PHG can take them off-wiki, which then makes it more cumbersome for him to then pull material from them and copy it to the relevant Talk pages. That is inhibiting what ArbComm specifically encouraged.

Thanks for all your support for good causes, by the way ... --Abd (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

guestbook barnstart

I un-closed the deletion nomination because it has not still been 5 days since I put it up, and I want to make sure there are no complaints later about no consensus or about rushed deletions. If the barnstar gets re-created on a different form, I want to make sure we can point ot this debate without getting lame complaints of un-appropiateness.

I understand your decision of userfying and not losing time with this sort of stuff, but, if the result is deletion, then it should be deleted even if it's userfied, since the point of the deletion is that it shouldn't exist at all anywhere on the wikipedia. --Enric Naval (talk) 10:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

P.D.:Of course, feel free to give your opinion that it should be userfied, but please let an admin close the debate, since I want to be sure that the process is 100% adjusting to procedure --Enric Naval (talk) 10:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Procedure means noting in a debate like this. What you don't understand is this isn't something that you can actually delete. Even if there is no on-wiki copy, there is nothing stopping anyone from pasting the code onto a user's talk page, just as if it were subst'ed. You can't XfD the act of giving the barnstar. -- Ned Scott 12:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

answered on nomination page --Enric Naval (talk) 13:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Forum shopping

Please stop forum shopping the deletion of the Daniel Brandt redirect - it is extremely disruptive. This will be grounds for blocking if you continue. krimpet✽ 05:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

You are absolutely wrong in every sentence of that message. There is nothing disruptive about letting others know about this with a neutral message on relevant and non-biased discussion pages. If you dare even think of blocking me for such then don't be surprised when you lose your admin bit. -- Ned Scott 05:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

...I've blocked you for 24 hours. Re-adding the thread to an unrelated noticeboard it was explicitly removed from that page is crossing the line. krimpet✽ 06:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)