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:'''A''': Because Barack Obama does not have a Muslim heritage. Please see this article on Snopes.com for a fairly indepth debunking of this myth: :'''A''': Because Barack Obama does not have a Muslim heritage. Please see this article on Snopes.com for a fairly indepth debunking of this myth:
:'''Q''': This article is over 100kb long, ] says that it should be broken up into sub-articles. Why hasn't this happened? :'''Q''': This article is over 100kb long, ] says that it should be broken up into sub-articles. Why hasn't this happened?
:'''A''': ] mostly discusses '''readable prose'''. As of ] ], the article had '''37kb''' of readable prose. The edit byte count is over 100kb. Please consider adding ] to your ] so you can see the size of the readable prose on an article. Note: There is an ongoing discussion on WP:SIZE to emphasis edit byte count which is more readily accessible than readable prose. Despite being within guidelines this article is both one of the most heavily trafficked sites on Misplaced Pages (over 2 million views per month) and one of the most difficult to load, because of its size. :'''A''': The article size restrictions mentioned in ] is for '''readable prose''' and, as of ] ], this article had '''37kb''' of readable prose, well within the 100kb of readable prose limit in WP:SIZE and within the size restrictions for ]. Please consider adding ] to your ] so you can see the size of the readable prose on an article.
:'''Q''': Why isn't there a criticisms/controversies section? :'''Q''': Why isn't there a criticisms/controversies section?
:'''A''': Because a section dedicated to criticisms and controversies is no more appropriate than a section dedicated solely to praises and is an indication of a poorly written article. Criticisms/controversies/praises should be worked into the existing prose of the article. :'''A''': Because a section dedicated to criticisms and controversies is no more appropriate than a section dedicated solely to praises and is an indication of a poorly written article. Criticisms/controversies/praises should be worked into the existing prose of the article.

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Q: Why isn't Barack Obama's Muslim heritage included in this article?
A: Because Barack Obama does not have a Muslim heritage. Please see this article on Snopes.com for a fairly indepth debunking of this myth:
Q: This article is over 100kb long, WP:SIZE says that it should be broken up into sub-articles. Why hasn't this happened?
A: The article size restrictions mentioned in WP:SIZE is for readable prose and, as of March 26 2007, this article had 37kb of readable prose, well within the 100kb of readable prose limit in WP:SIZE and within the size restrictions for Featured Articles. Please consider adding Dr pda's prosesize tool to your monobook.js so you can see the size of the readable prose on an article.
Q: Why isn't there a criticisms/controversies section?
A: Because a section dedicated to criticisms and controversies is no more appropriate than a section dedicated solely to praises and is an indication of a poorly written article. Criticisms/controversies/praises should be worked into the existing prose of the article.
Q: Why isn't a certain controversy/criticism included in this article?
A: Please remember that this article is a biography of living person and, as such, only the truly notable controversy/criticism is included in this article. That being said, because the subject of Barack Obama is rather large, a number of sub-articles have been created. Some controversies/criticisms have summarized per the summary style guideline here in the main article and then covered in detail in one of the sub-articles. Please check the sub-articles to make sure your controversy/criticism isn't already covered in a sub-article.
Q: But this controversy/criticism is all over the news right now! It should be covered in detail in the main article, not buried in a sub-article!
A: While it may be true that the controversy/criticism is all over the news right now, Misplaced Pages has to make sure to try and avoid recentism and providing undue weight on something just because it is in the news right now should be avoided if possible. This applies to content that is positive and negative.
Q: OMG! This article doesn't have any criticisms/controversies at all! What are you? A bunch of Obama staffers/fans/sheeple/etc??
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Q: OMG! This article includes a certain criticism/controversy! What are you? A bunch of Obama haters?? (Hey, it could happen)
A: Please try to assume good faith. This is a highly visible and highly visited article, it is highly unlikely that any undue bias (positive or negative) can remain on the article for long. Starting off your discussion by accusing the editors of this article of having a bias is the quickest way to get your comment ignored. If you see a bias that you wish to address, you are more than welcome to start a new discussion, or join in an existing discussion, but please be ready to provide sources to support your viewpoint and try to keep your comments civil.
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